You are invited to meeting organized by Bialystok Landsmanschaft in Israel
at "The Hall of Bialystok" in Yehud on October 20th, 2004 at 17:00.
On the agenda:

* Meeting friends and exchanging photographs and experiences.

* Strengthening the contacts and planning the future.

* Common future activities.

* Ideas for possible cooperation.

Address: 17 Tennenbaum St.
Yehud
Israel

More at: http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm#kiria

Thanks you,

shalom,

Ada Holtzman
www.zchor.org

You are invited to meeting organized by Bialystok Landsmanschaft in Israel
at "The Hall of Bialystok" in Yehud on October 20th, 2004 at 17:00.
On the agenda:

* Meeting friends and exchanging photographs and experiences.

* Strengthening the contacts and planning the future.

* Common future activities.

* Ideas for possible cooperation.

Address: 17 Tennenbaum St.
Yehud
Israel

More at: http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm#kiria

Thanks you,

shalom,

Ada Holtzman
www.zchor.org

My maternal great-grandfather was Barnett Renovitch. (~1859-1920). He was a
tailor in London, England {and he always gave his name to the census taker
as Goldstein!}.

On his marriage authorization, Barnett Renovitch gives his father's name as
Pizer and states that he came >from Walkowishk, Poland {presumably
Vilkaviskis?}.

I understand >from a genealogist friend that the book "Jewish Surnames >from
the Kingdom of Russia" says that the surname Renovitch originated in
Vilkaviskis and was originally Rejnowicz. Are there any other probabilities
for Vilkaviskis?

My Friend also came across a well-loved rabbi in London named Reinowitz,
also >from Vilkaviskis. She suspects that they were probably related but has
no firm proof. He is of the right age to have been Barnett's uncle. Does
anyone have these names in their Families? Can anyone advise me on how to
find VILKAVISKIS records as I am struggling to get further with this? Pizer
would probably have been born prior to 1881.

I would be grateful for any help and you should respond privately, unless
giving general advice on Lithuanian / Polish record sources.

Martin Rubin
WORCESTER, ENGLAND.

e-mail: martinrubin001@...

My maternal great-grandfather was Barnett Renovitch. (~1859-1920). He was a
tailor in London, England {and he always gave his name to the census taker
as Goldstein!}.

On his marriage authorization, Barnett Renovitch gives his father's name as
Pizer and states that he came >from Walkowishk, Poland {presumably
Vilkaviskis?}.

I understand >from a genealogist friend that the book "Jewish Surnames >from
the Kingdom of Russia" says that the surname Renovitch originated in
Vilkaviskis and was originally Rejnowicz. Are there any other probabilities
for Vilkaviskis?

My Friend also came across a well-loved rabbi in London named Reinowitz,
also >from Vilkaviskis. She suspects that they were probably related but has
no firm proof. He is of the right age to have been Barnett's uncle. Does
anyone have these names in their Families? Can anyone advise me on how to
find VILKAVISKIS records as I am struggling to get further with this? Pizer
would probably have been born prior to 1881.

I would be grateful for any help and you should respond privately, unless
giving general advice on Lithuanian / Polish record sources.

Martin Rubin
WORCESTER, ENGLAND.

e-mail: martinrubin001@...

Jews once lived in the shtetl and gmina (rural district) of Kopciowo in
Suwalki gubernia now known as Kapciamiestis, Lithuania. This was a small
community and many of its residents were related by marriage. They lived
here >from the late 18th century until 1941. No Jews live in Kapciamiestis
today but their descendents can be found throughout the world.

Please join us in our effort to collect and make available as much
information as we can. (http://www.kapciamiestis.org/) . The site currently
incudes history pages, photos, a cemetery database and research guidance to
vital records. It may also be of interest to those with roots in the Veisiejai
area.

Please do visit it the site and if you can contribute any additional
information or we can help you in your research, we would be delighted to
hear >from you.

Connie Buchanan, Carol Hoffman, Dorothy Leivers

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

Jews once lived in the shtetl and gmina (rural district) of Kopciowo in
Suwalki gubernia now known as Kapciamiestis, Lithuania. This was a small
community and many of its residents were related by marriage. They lived
here >from the late 18th century until 1941. No Jews live in Kapciamiestis
today but their descendents can be found throughout the world.

Please join us in our effort to collect and make available as much
information as we can. (http://www.kapciamiestis.org/) . The site currently
incudes history pages, photos, a cemetery database and research guidance to
vital records. It may also be of interest to those with roots in the Veisiejai
area.

Please do visit it the site and if you can contribute any additional
information or we can help you in your research, we would be delighted to
hear >from you.

Connie Buchanan, Carol Hoffman, Dorothy Leivers

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

<< eugene k <costanza2202@...> asks -
does anybody knows where I can get lists of individuals

from various shtetls, who were moved >from their villages

by force by russian soliders. which archives contain this
information? who would keep this information? would russian
army archives or would a rabbi >from a shtetel keep this
information? or municipal halls? or perhaps at the
destination shtetel?>>

It seems that, at least partially, the Russians kept lists of evacuated Jews
(located at the historical archives of Vilna). You can find such detailed
lists of Jews >from the Suwalki Gubernia in the booklet:

Galina Baranova, Jews Evicted >from Suwalki Gubernia in the Summer of 1915,
Landsmen Press, 1999.


Ben-Tsion Klibansky
Elkana, Israel

<< eugene k <costanza2202@...> asks -
does anybody knows where I can get lists of individuals

from various shtetls, who were moved >from their villages

by force by russian soliders. which archives contain this
information? who would keep this information? would russian
army archives or would a rabbi >from a shtetel keep this
information? or municipal halls? or perhaps at the
destination shtetel?>>

It seems that, at least partially, the Russians kept lists of evacuated Jews
(located at the historical archives of Vilna). You can find such detailed
lists of Jews >from the Suwalki Gubernia in the booklet:

Galina Baranova, Jews Evicted >from Suwalki Gubernia in the Summer of 1915,
Landsmen Press, 1999.


Ben-Tsion Klibansky
Elkana, Israel

I've seen a number of postings regarding the expulsion
of Jews >from Lithuania in 1915 and their migration
east at that time. How prevalent was this, and was it
required in certain towns but not others? I know that
my grandmother and her family remained in Rokiskis
throughout the war. While my grandfather was fighting
on the front, my grandmother worked as a nurse
traveling on ambulances tending wounded soldiers, and
ran an inn where German soldiers would sometimes eat.
She said those she encountered were courteous and
often helpful, unlike in World War II.

Amanda Katz Jermyn
Massachusetts, USA

Researching KRUK, KRIGER, KAVALSKY, RUCH, POPLAK

I've seen a number of postings regarding the expulsion
of Jews >from Lithuania in 1915 and their migration
east at that time. How prevalent was this, and was it
required in certain towns but not others? I know that
my grandmother and her family remained in Rokiskis
throughout the war. While my grandfather was fighting
on the front, my grandmother worked as a nurse
traveling on ambulances tending wounded soldiers, and
ran an inn where German soldiers would sometimes eat.
She said those she encountered were courteous and
often helpful, unlike in World War II.

Amanda Katz Jermyn
Massachusetts, USA

Researching KRUK, KRIGER, KAVALSKY, RUCH, POPLAK

While looking online for my SYTNER or SITNER rellies,
I found incorrectly placed this-it might help someone:

BIRTH: Leah SEAPIRA: March quarter 1868: 2b 253

She is placed at the bottom of the SYT page, =

the letter after the first S is not clear: but I bet you
it's meant to be either SZAPIRA or SHAPIRA.

Best-Miriam Margolyes
now in Philadelphia

NB> I think it's SZAPIRA because I find (I am sure) her sister's birth:
March 1862 Sarah Frances SZAPIRA, Brighton 2b 231

Can't help reporting the birth of TRIPLETS.

Sept 1862-Leighton Buzzard: SYRATT

Frederic
Moses
Noah
3b 383

Having triplets in my family, I am fascinated by them.

Best-Miriam Margolyes

searching: SITNER, SYTNER, SHERWINTER (Edin)

While looking online for my SYTNER or SITNER rellies,
I found incorrectly placed this-it might help someone:

BIRTH: Leah SEAPIRA: March quarter 1868: 2b 253

She is placed at the bottom of the SYT page, =

the letter after the first S is not clear: but I bet you
it's meant to be either SZAPIRA or SHAPIRA.

Best-Miriam Margolyes
now in Philadelphia

NB> I think it's SZAPIRA because I find (I am sure) her sister's birth:
March 1862 Sarah Frances SZAPIRA, Brighton 2b 231

Can't help reporting the birth of TRIPLETS.

Sept 1862-Leighton Buzzard: SYRATT

Frederic
Moses
Noah
3b 383

Having triplets in my family, I am fascinated by them.

Best-Miriam Margolyes

searching: SITNER, SYTNER, SHERWINTER (Edin)

Dear Eden and Group,

Be careful using the "last residence" information >from the SSDI to determine
where somebody died -- the Social Security Administration does not record
information on where deaths occur. The "last residence" is simply >from the SSA's
mailing address for the individual at the time of their death. Although most
people die in the area in which they live, this is obviously not always the case.

The question in the original message was whether a particular person's wife
survived him (and to get her name >from his death certificate). Unfortunately, on
the SSDI the "last benefit" column for this individual is blank, and for an 83
year old man, the most likely explanation is that his spouse probably did not
survive him (or that he had no spouse).

But being genealogists who should leave no stone unturned, there might be new
or surprising information on the death certificate, if the place of death can be
determined (and the death certficate extracted >from the authorities).

BTW, it was mentioned that this man was a lawyer in New York State. Does the
state bar association have any information?

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Dear Eden and Group,

Be careful using the "last residence" information >from the SSDI to determine
where somebody died -- the Social Security Administration does not record
information on where deaths occur. The "last residence" is simply >from the SSA's
mailing address for the individual at the time of their death. Although most
people die in the area in which they live, this is obviously not always the case.

The question in the original message was whether a particular person's wife
survived him (and to get her name >from his death certificate). Unfortunately, on
the SSDI the "last benefit" column for this individual is blank, and for an 83
year old man, the most likely explanation is that his spouse probably did not
survive him (or that he had no spouse).

But being genealogists who should leave no stone unturned, there might be new
or surprising information on the death certificate, if the place of death can be
determined (and the death certficate extracted >from the authorities).

BTW, it was mentioned that this man was a lawyer in New York State. Does the
state bar association have any information?

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

The JGS of Greater Washington invites you to our October Meeting:

Speaker: Dr. Stephen Morse and the One-Step Website
Date: 2:00 pm, Sunday, October 17, 2004,
(Schmooze time begins at 1:30)
Location: Congregation Har Shalom, 11510 Falls Road, Potomac, Maryland

Morning Workshop: Estelle Guzik, "Genealogical Resources in New York" 11:00-1:00

Dr. Stephen Morse and his One-Step Website:
A Potpourri of Genealogical Search Tools:

The One-Step website started out as an aid for finding passengers in the Ellis
Island database. Shortly afterwards it was expanded to help with searching in the
1930 census. Over the years it has continued to evolve and today includes nearly
40 web-based tools divided into eight separate categories ranging >from
genealogical searches to astronomical calculations to Israeli phonebook lookups.
This presentation by Dr. Morse will describe the range of tools available and give
the highlights of each one.

Dr. Morse is an amateur genealogist who has been researching his Russian-Jewish
origins. His websites on searching the Ellis Island database and the 1930 census
have attracted attention worldwide. He was the recipient of the IAJGS Outstanding
Contribution Award in 2003.

In his other life, Steve is a computer professional who has spent a career
alternately doing research, development, teaching, consulting, and writing. He is
best known as the designer of the Intel 8086 microprocessor (grandfather of
today's pentium processor) which sparked the PC revolution twenty years ago. He
has a Ph.D. in electrical engineering and still enjoys tinkering with electronics
in his spare time.

The morning workshop will feature Estelle Guzik providing amazing insight into the
resources available for genealogists with roots in New York City. If you have ever
been overwhelmed about how to get the answers to your questions about your
family's history in New York don't miss this presentation by the author of
Genealogical Resources in New York.

For more information on the meeting or directions to Har Shalom, please go to the
JGSGW website at
www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw.

Aaron Werbel
Vice-President, Membership
werbel@...

The JGS of Greater Washington invites you to our October Meeting:

Speaker: Dr. Stephen Morse and the One-Step Website
Date: 2:00 pm, Sunday, October 17, 2004,
(Schmooze time begins at 1:30)
Location: Congregation Har Shalom, 11510 Falls Road, Potomac, Maryland

Morning Workshop: Estelle Guzik, "Genealogical Resources in New York" 11:00-1:00

Dr. Stephen Morse and his One-Step Website:
A Potpourri of Genealogical Search Tools:

The One-Step website started out as an aid for finding passengers in the Ellis
Island database. Shortly afterwards it was expanded to help with searching in the
1930 census. Over the years it has continued to evolve and today includes nearly
40 web-based tools divided into eight separate categories ranging >from
genealogical searches to astronomical calculations to Israeli phonebook lookups.
This presentation by Dr. Morse will describe the range of tools available and give
the highlights of each one.

Dr. Morse is an amateur genealogist who has been researching his Russian-Jewish
origins. His websites on searching the Ellis Island database and the 1930 census
have attracted attention worldwide. He was the recipient of the IAJGS Outstanding
Contribution Award in 2003.

In his other life, Steve is a computer professional who has spent a career
alternately doing research, development, teaching, consulting, and writing. He is
best known as the designer of the Intel 8086 microprocessor (grandfather of
today's pentium processor) which sparked the PC revolution twenty years ago. He
has a Ph.D. in electrical engineering and still enjoys tinkering with electronics
in his spare time.

The morning workshop will feature Estelle Guzik providing amazing insight into the
resources available for genealogists with roots in New York City. If you have ever
been overwhelmed about how to get the answers to your questions about your
family's history in New York don't miss this presentation by the author of
Genealogical Resources in New York.

For more information on the meeting or directions to Har Shalom, please go to the
JGSGW website at
www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw.

Aaron Werbel
Vice-President, Membership
werbel@...

I am revisiting my search for BIERFASS relatives. My grandmother, Tillie
BIERFASS , >from Siedliska, Austria (now Poland) arrived in NY via Ellis
Island at age 17 in 1910. She was one of the oldest children in a very large
family and I know of only a handful of her siblings who lived in the US, all
of whom I have been able to track through the Ellis Island Website. Through
the Jewish Gen postings, last year I located BIERFASS (spelled BIRFAS)
relatives (originally >from Prezmyl) in Israel and met some of them last
summer. I also was in contact with Alberto BIERFASS in Argentina. However,
Alberto BIERFASS's e-mail address is no longer active. If you have any
information which may assist me in my search, please contact me.

Penny Kornstein
Westchester, NY
Searching for: BIERFASS (Austria/Poland); Lieberman (Chmielnik); Ryman
(Chmielnik); Kleinhandler (Chmielnik); Gach (Minsk)

I am revisiting my search for BIERFASS relatives. My grandmother, Tillie
BIERFASS , >from Siedliska, Austria (now Poland) arrived in NY via Ellis
Island at age 17 in 1910. She was one of the oldest children in a very large
family and I know of only a handful of her siblings who lived in the US, all
of whom I have been able to track through the Ellis Island Website. Through
the Jewish Gen postings, last year I located BIERFASS (spelled BIRFAS)
relatives (originally >from Prezmyl) in Israel and met some of them last
summer. I also was in contact with Alberto BIERFASS in Argentina. However,
Alberto BIERFASS's e-mail address is no longer active. If you have any
information which may assist me in my search, please contact me.

Penny Kornstein
Westchester, NY
Searching for: BIERFASS (Austria/Poland); Lieberman (Chmielnik); Ryman
(Chmielnik); Kleinhandler (Chmielnik); Gach (Minsk)