Date   

Name of Shtetl #belarus

Marsha Rapp
 

I have in my records notes that my grandmothers family came >from the
Minsk area >from Samochwalitz. This was also confirmed by someone else
searching another branch of the family that she had also heard of this
place. However - I can't find it listed anywhere. Any ideas of where,
what this could be?
Thanks
Marsha

Searching: SITVER (TSYTVER), CHAJET (changed to HYMAN) Minsk;
FERTELMEISTER Starokonstantinov; RAGINSKY Minsk, Kiyev

Marsha Rapp
Kiryat Arba, Israel
marsha1@...


September 2004 update for Yizkor Book Project #belarus

Joyce Field
 

A Happy and Healthy New Year to all. It is always surprising that we
are able to add new material in a busy month with preparations for
Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur and then Succot, but we seem always to do
it. In September we added four new entries and eight updates.

New entries:

-Pinkas HaKehillot Lita

-Baisogola, Lithuania
-Teverai, Lithuania
-Zemaiciu Kalvariaya, Lithuania

-Bukowina, Geschichte der Juden in der Bukowina : "Jewish Sport in
Bukovina" >from volume 1, pages 167 to 172

Updates:

-Dabrowa Gornicza, Poland
-Derechin, Belarus
-Druzhkopol, Ukraine
-Holocaust in Belarus
-Marghita, Romania
-Radzyn, Poland
-Rejowiec, Poland
-Ropczyce, Poland

Thanks again to all our contributors, who took the time during a busy
month to submit translations and to our wonderful staff who worked on
these materials during the holiday month.

All our translations can be accessed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. The yizkor book
database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html, has a
variety of information for researchers. When you search for a
particular book you will get a description of the yizkor books for
that location, a list of major libraries that have these books, and
links to translations on the yizkor book project website.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...


Re: Yiddish Obituaries #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

As a librarian at HUC in Cincinnati this was a question often addressed to
me. Most of the Yiddish newspapers in the larger cities, e.g. New York,
Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, published obituaries of prominent Jews.
Sometimes one can find a very small paid death notice. There were Yiddish
newspapers in some smaller cities, e.g. Cincinnati that published obits of
not such prominent Jews. However, there are other resources--the "Anglo"
Jewish press. A few cities had newspapers in English published by individual
Jews or organizations and most of them listed all the burials of Jews which
were conducted via the local Jewish funeral homes. Thus, cities such as
Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago, Cincinnati, Boston,
Baltimore,etc. would be places to look for such obits in the Jewish press.
The best resource for this is the American Jewish Periodical Center, 3101
Clifton Avenue, Cincinnati Ohio 45220.
Hag Same'ah
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Name of Shtetl #belarus

Marsha Rapp
 

I have in my records notes that my grandmothers family came >from the
Minsk area >from Samochwalitz. This was also confirmed by someone else
searching another branch of the family that she had also heard of this
place. However - I can't find it listed anywhere. Any ideas of where,
what this could be?
Thanks
Marsha

Searching: SITVER (TSYTVER), CHAJET (changed to HYMAN) Minsk;
FERTELMEISTER Starokonstantinov; RAGINSKY Minsk, Kiyev

Marsha Rapp
Kiryat Arba, Israel
marsha1@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus September 2004 update for Yizkor Book Project #belarus

Joyce Field
 

A Happy and Healthy New Year to all. It is always surprising that we
are able to add new material in a busy month with preparations for
Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur and then Succot, but we seem always to do
it. In September we added four new entries and eight updates.

New entries:

-Pinkas HaKehillot Lita

-Baisogola, Lithuania
-Teverai, Lithuania
-Zemaiciu Kalvariaya, Lithuania

-Bukowina, Geschichte der Juden in der Bukowina : "Jewish Sport in
Bukovina" >from volume 1, pages 167 to 172

Updates:

-Dabrowa Gornicza, Poland
-Derechin, Belarus
-Druzhkopol, Ukraine
-Holocaust in Belarus
-Marghita, Romania
-Radzyn, Poland
-Rejowiec, Poland
-Ropczyce, Poland

Thanks again to all our contributors, who took the time during a busy
month to submit translations and to our wonderful staff who worked on
these materials during the holiday month.

All our translations can be accessed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. The yizkor book
database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html, has a
variety of information for researchers. When you search for a
particular book you will get a description of the yizkor books for
that location, a list of major libraries that have these books, and
links to translations on the yizkor book project website.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Yiddish Obituaries #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

As a librarian at HUC in Cincinnati this was a question often addressed to
me. Most of the Yiddish newspapers in the larger cities, e.g. New York,
Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, published obituaries of prominent Jews.
Sometimes one can find a very small paid death notice. There were Yiddish
newspapers in some smaller cities, e.g. Cincinnati that published obits of
not such prominent Jews. However, there are other resources--the "Anglo"
Jewish press. A few cities had newspapers in English published by individual
Jews or organizations and most of them listed all the burials of Jews which
were conducted via the local Jewish funeral homes. Thus, cities such as
Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago, Cincinnati, Boston,
Baltimore,etc. would be places to look for such obits in the Jewish press.
The best resource for this is the American Jewish Periodical Center, 3101
Clifton Avenue, Cincinnati Ohio 45220.
Hag Same'ah
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad Israel


Hurwitz and turkey #lithuania

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

I believe that many Hurvitzes do not eat turkey. Their ancestor, the holy
Shl"a, was against it.

Aryeh Lopiansky


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Hurwitz and turkey #lithuania

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

I believe that many Hurvitzes do not eat turkey. Their ancestor, the holy
Shl"a, was against it.

Aryeh Lopiansky


MENDELOWITZ family #ukraine

Alan Tapper <sabaalan@...>
 

Genners,

I am looking for the descendants of Eleazar, Daniel, Sarah and Miriam
MENDELOWITZ. They came to the U.S. around 1910. Their father was Naphtali
MENDELOWITZ >from Slonim. Naphtali was my wife's great-grandfather's
brother.

Any help would be appreciated. One of Naphtali's granddaughters, Sarah, was
married to a lubavitch gentleman by the name of Rosen.

Alan Tapper
Fairfax, VA.

Researching:

MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH,
MENDELOVITCH, MENDELOVITZ or MENDELOWITZ >from Byten, Slonim and Baronovichi
NEMIROVSKY >from Lipovets,
TEPER or TAPPER >from Snitkov and Kishinev
BURDMAN >from Tulchin
STUCKLEMAN >from Tulchin
DUCKLER >from Tuchin
MENDOZA >from Kobryn
GORMAN >from Baronovichi


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine MENDELOWITZ family #ukraine

Alan Tapper <sabaalan@...>
 

Genners,

I am looking for the descendants of Eleazar, Daniel, Sarah and Miriam
MENDELOWITZ. They came to the U.S. around 1910. Their father was Naphtali
MENDELOWITZ >from Slonim. Naphtali was my wife's great-grandfather's
brother.

Any help would be appreciated. One of Naphtali's granddaughters, Sarah, was
married to a lubavitch gentleman by the name of Rosen.

Alan Tapper
Fairfax, VA.

Researching:

MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH,
MENDELOVITCH, MENDELOVITZ or MENDELOWITZ >from Byten, Slonim and Baronovichi
NEMIROVSKY >from Lipovets,
TEPER or TAPPER >from Snitkov and Kishinev
BURDMAN >from Tulchin
STUCKLEMAN >from Tulchin
DUCKLER >from Tuchin
MENDOZA >from Kobryn
GORMAN >from Baronovichi


MENDELOWITZ family #belarus

Alan Tapper <sabaalan@...>
 

Genners,

I am looking for the descendants of Eleazar, Daniel, Sarah and Miriam
MENDELOWITZ. They came to the U.S. around 1910. Their father was Naphtali
MENDELOWITZ >from Slonim. Naphtali was my wife's great-grandfather's
brother.

Any help would be appreciated. One of Naphtali's granddaughters, Sarah, was
married to a Lubavitch gentleman by the name of ROSEN.

Alan Tapper
Fairfax, VA.

Researching:

MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH,
MENDELOVITCH, MENDELOVITZ or MENDELOWITZ >from Byten, Slonim and Baronovichi
NEMIROVSKY >from Lipovets,
TEPER or TAPPER >from Snitkov and Kishinev
BURDMAN,STUCKLEMAN,DUCKLER >from Tuchin
MENDOZA >from Kobryn, GORMAN >from Baronovichi


Belarus SIG #Belarus MENDELOWITZ family #belarus

Alan Tapper <sabaalan@...>
 

Genners,

I am looking for the descendants of Eleazar, Daniel, Sarah and Miriam
MENDELOWITZ. They came to the U.S. around 1910. Their father was Naphtali
MENDELOWITZ >from Slonim. Naphtali was my wife's great-grandfather's
brother.

Any help would be appreciated. One of Naphtali's granddaughters, Sarah, was
married to a Lubavitch gentleman by the name of ROSEN.

Alan Tapper
Fairfax, VA.

Researching:

MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH,
MENDELOVITCH, MENDELOVITZ or MENDELOWITZ >from Byten, Slonim and Baronovichi
NEMIROVSKY >from Lipovets,
TEPER or TAPPER >from Snitkov and Kishinev
BURDMAN,STUCKLEMAN,DUCKLER >from Tuchin
MENDOZA >from Kobryn, GORMAN >from Baronovichi


From Courland to Ukraine: Novo Berislav colony. Kherson archive #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Hello!

As I mentioned in a previous letter, when I received archive data from
Melitopol archive, I was surprised that my my great great grandfather Aron
Leib Bernshtam was recorder as a farmer >from Novo-Berislav agricultural
colony.
I was surprised because this colony is quite far >from Akimovka village near
Melitopol, where the family lived in the beginning of 20 century.
My guess was that they arrived to this colony >from Courland, because
Bernshtam surname was widespreaded in Courland.
I have contacted Riga archive and they confirmed that Bernshtam family is
recorded in the list of families, who leaved to ukrainian agricultural
colonies. Also I have found that Lvovo colony web site mention thet Novo
Berislav colony, as well as Lvovo colony was esteablished by settlements
from Courland.
I decided that before deep search in Riga archive I should receive all the
data >from Kherson archive.
I have contacted them by telephone, sent my request by fax. The only way to
pay them is bank transfer >from Ukraine (they have not international bank
account), so I asked my friend >from Kharkov to transfer money (less than 50
dollars).
During the work in Kherson archive I have contacted archive staff again and
asked to find some data about Aron Leib Bernshtam's wife - Enta Freida
Zelikovna. The problem was that only private name and paternal name was
known and I asked archive staff to search for some family with father Zelik
and daughter Enta Freida.

Here is results, that I received today:

Census 30 april 1858, jewish colony Novo Bersilav, Kherson uyezd, Kherson
gubernia

Abram Levinovich Bershtam, age 37
his son Aron, age 11,
Abram Bershtam's mother Dvoira, age 56,
her daughter Blyuma, age 25
Abram Bershtam's wife Gitya Aronovna, age 32
his daughters:
Feiga, age 9
Blyuma Ruhla, age 6,
Tirce, age 1;
Abram's first brother Ber Levinovich Bershtam, age 35,
his son Ruvin, age 8,
Ber Bershtam's wife Hasya Abramovna, age 31
Abram's second brother Nohom Levinovich Bershtam, age 31,
Abram's third brother Yankel Levinovich Bershtam, age 23

-----
and likely family of Aron' wife - Enta Freida Zelikovna. The problem is that
this Zelik has 2 daugters - Enta and Freida. I think may be one of them died
and her name was added to the second. Archive staff tells that this is the
only family that match my request.

Yankel Iosipovich Yakubson (died in 1852 in age 61)
Yankel yakubson's wife Blyuma Movshovna, age 63
Yankel's first son Iosel, age 40
Iosel Yakubson's wife Blyuma Nohovna, age 28
his sons:
Nohom Ruvin, age 7
Movsha, age 6 monthes
his daugter Enta age 4,
Yankel's second son Zelik, age 37,
Zelik yakubson's wife Basya Wul'fovna, age 28
his son Shlema, age 1.5
his daughters:
Enta, age 5
Freida, age 4
Yankel's third son Ruvin, age 34
yankel's fourth son Vulf, age 29
Vulf Yakubson's wife Genya Girshevna, age 20
his daugters:
Freida age 1.5
Tsipa age 5 monthes

------

1. Can somebody help me to locate Levin Bernshtam(Bershtam) and Yankel
Yakubson families in Courland in the beginning of 19 century?
2. What do you think - is such partitial match enough to assume that
Yakubson family is my ancestors and to include them to the family tree?

Thank you!

Pavel Bernshtam
----
Searching for:ITKIN-Kolyshki, Vitebsk uyead, Vitebsk gubernia;Kharkov,BENIOMENSON
-Bocheikovo,Lepel uyezd, Kharkov,BERNSHTAM-Akimovka (Melitopol oblast),Melitopol,
ALTSHULER-Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy
(Mogilevgubernia)KANTOR-Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia),
Zhitomir,LAMDAN, LAMDIN-Mlinov ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd),
Verbovo(Skvir uyezd),Zhitomir, KELMAN-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen From Courland to Ukraine: Novo Berislav colony. Kherson archive #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Hello!

As I mentioned in a previous letter, when I received archive data from
Melitopol archive, I was surprised that my my great great grandfather Aron
Leib Bernshtam was recorder as a farmer >from Novo-Berislav agricultural
colony.
I was surprised because this colony is quite far >from Akimovka village near
Melitopol, where the family lived in the beginning of 20 century.
My guess was that they arrived to this colony >from Courland, because
Bernshtam surname was widespreaded in Courland.
I have contacted Riga archive and they confirmed that Bernshtam family is
recorded in the list of families, who leaved to ukrainian agricultural
colonies. Also I have found that Lvovo colony web site mention thet Novo
Berislav colony, as well as Lvovo colony was esteablished by settlements
from Courland.
I decided that before deep search in Riga archive I should receive all the
data >from Kherson archive.
I have contacted them by telephone, sent my request by fax. The only way to
pay them is bank transfer >from Ukraine (they have not international bank
account), so I asked my friend >from Kharkov to transfer money (less than 50
dollars).
During the work in Kherson archive I have contacted archive staff again and
asked to find some data about Aron Leib Bernshtam's wife - Enta Freida
Zelikovna. The problem was that only private name and paternal name was
known and I asked archive staff to search for some family with father Zelik
and daughter Enta Freida.

Here is results, that I received today:

Census 30 april 1858, jewish colony Novo Bersilav, Kherson uyezd, Kherson
gubernia

Abram Levinovich Bershtam, age 37
his son Aron, age 11,
Abram Bershtam's mother Dvoira, age 56,
her daughter Blyuma, age 25
Abram Bershtam's wife Gitya Aronovna, age 32
his daughters:
Feiga, age 9
Blyuma Ruhla, age 6,
Tirce, age 1;
Abram's first brother Ber Levinovich Bershtam, age 35,
his son Ruvin, age 8,
Ber Bershtam's wife Hasya Abramovna, age 31
Abram's second brother Nohom Levinovich Bershtam, age 31,
Abram's third brother Yankel Levinovich Bershtam, age 23

-----
and likely family of Aron' wife - Enta Freida Zelikovna. The problem is that
this Zelik has 2 daugters - Enta and Freida. I think may be one of them died
and her name was added to the second. Archive staff tells that this is the
only family that match my request.

Yankel Iosipovich Yakubson (died in 1852 in age 61)
Yankel yakubson's wife Blyuma Movshovna, age 63
Yankel's first son Iosel, age 40
Iosel Yakubson's wife Blyuma Nohovna, age 28
his sons:
Nohom Ruvin, age 7
Movsha, age 6 monthes
his daugter Enta age 4,
Yankel's second son Zelik, age 37,
Zelik yakubson's wife Basya Wul'fovna, age 28
his son Shlema, age 1.5
his daughters:
Enta, age 5
Freida, age 4
Yankel's third son Ruvin, age 34
yankel's fourth son Vulf, age 29
Vulf Yakubson's wife Genya Girshevna, age 20
his daugters:
Freida age 1.5
Tsipa age 5 monthes

------

1. Can somebody help me to locate Levin Bernshtam(Bershtam) and Yankel
Yakubson families in Courland in the beginning of 19 century?
2. What do you think - is such partitial match enough to assume that
Yakubson family is my ancestors and to include them to the family tree?

Thank you!

Pavel Bernshtam
----
Searching for:ITKIN-Kolyshki, Vitebsk uyead, Vitebsk gubernia;Kharkov,BENIOMENSON
-Bocheikovo,Lepel uyezd, Kharkov,BERNSHTAM-Akimovka (Melitopol oblast),Melitopol,
ALTSHULER-Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy
(Mogilevgubernia)KANTOR-Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia),
Zhitomir,LAMDAN, LAMDIN-Mlinov ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd),
Verbovo(Skvir uyezd),Zhitomir, KELMAN-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir


re HURWITZ. #general

Anne Brest Photography - (LAPEDUS fam.) <angi@...>
 

Hallo Jewishgenners,

I am looking for a HURWITZ family, Levi'im, and possibly >from Poneviscz
(spelling?). There is one factor which sets this family aside >from other
HURWITZ families, and that is that they have a family custom of not eating
Turkey. Apparently a distant ancestor once saw a Turkey attacking a "rat"
and felt it to be a non-kosher (Treif) Animal.

I am in touch with an EPPEL family >from Dublin, Ireland, who have the same
custom for the same reasons, and there is, I believe, an EPPEL/HURWITZ
connection but so far, I have not found it. My main objective is to find
the shtetle where the HURWITZ family came from. The information I was given
is that the HURWITZ family came >from Kovno, possibly Poneviscz.

The family names are Moshe Shimon (Simon) HURWITZ married to Tilly Laura
LOON. Father of Moshe was Joseph HURWITZ married to Rose. children of Moshe
Shimon HURWITZ were, Solomon, Harry Edward, Ada and Freda Molly HURWITZ.

I have been given the address of the Horowitz foundation.

Many thanks
Anne Lapedus Brest (ex Dublin, Ireland, Sandton South Africa
researching LAPEDUS (Vieksniai, Lithuania), KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania)
KARLIN (Zagera, Lithuania)MARCUS (Ackmene, Lithuania) KLAPMAN (Ackmene,Lithuania,
ORKIN (Zagera, Lithuania) ORKIN ( Yaneshik/Yoniskis)Lithuania,MIRRELSON
(Kourland, Latvia and Kurshan, Lithuania) S(C)HILLMAN(Kreutzburg/Krustpils,Latvia)
BREST (Bauska, Latvia) NOVGOROD(Yaneshik/Joniskis , Alte Zagera, Lithuania)CHEIN
(Unknown), CHAVKIN (unknown),GRüNBORG/GRIMBORG/GRüENBERGER(Galats, Bucaresti,
Romania) and POSKLENSKI/POSKLINSKI/POSLINSKY (Poland).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re HURWITZ. #general

Anne Brest Photography - (LAPEDUS fam.) <angi@...>
 

Hallo Jewishgenners,

I am looking for a HURWITZ family, Levi'im, and possibly >from Poneviscz
(spelling?). There is one factor which sets this family aside >from other
HURWITZ families, and that is that they have a family custom of not eating
Turkey. Apparently a distant ancestor once saw a Turkey attacking a "rat"
and felt it to be a non-kosher (Treif) Animal.

I am in touch with an EPPEL family >from Dublin, Ireland, who have the same
custom for the same reasons, and there is, I believe, an EPPEL/HURWITZ
connection but so far, I have not found it. My main objective is to find
the shtetle where the HURWITZ family came from. The information I was given
is that the HURWITZ family came >from Kovno, possibly Poneviscz.

The family names are Moshe Shimon (Simon) HURWITZ married to Tilly Laura
LOON. Father of Moshe was Joseph HURWITZ married to Rose. children of Moshe
Shimon HURWITZ were, Solomon, Harry Edward, Ada and Freda Molly HURWITZ.

I have been given the address of the Horowitz foundation.

Many thanks
Anne Lapedus Brest (ex Dublin, Ireland, Sandton South Africa
researching LAPEDUS (Vieksniai, Lithuania), KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania)
KARLIN (Zagera, Lithuania)MARCUS (Ackmene, Lithuania) KLAPMAN (Ackmene,Lithuania,
ORKIN (Zagera, Lithuania) ORKIN ( Yaneshik/Yoniskis)Lithuania,MIRRELSON
(Kourland, Latvia and Kurshan, Lithuania) S(C)HILLMAN(Kreutzburg/Krustpils,Latvia)
BREST (Bauska, Latvia) NOVGOROD(Yaneshik/Joniskis , Alte Zagera, Lithuania)CHEIN
(Unknown), CHAVKIN (unknown),GRüNBORG/GRIMBORG/GRüENBERGER(Galats, Bucaresti,
Romania) and POSKLENSKI/POSKLINSKI/POSLINSKY (Poland).


Moses Leib #general

Rony Golan <golanron@...>
 

Robert,

My grandfather Moses Leib SLOMOVITS was born in Akna Szlatina,
Chechoslovakia. He lived in Sighet, and in all the documents that I found he
is named: Leib (including an Auschwitz card).

My mother says he was Moses Leib, and his nephew as well as my brother are
named after him (Moshe).
I have not found anywhere any document naming him a Moses.

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel

Researching:

KRAMARUTSKY - Kaunas, Vandzigala, Lithuania;
SLOMOVITS - Sighet, Raozavlea, Stramtura, Romania; Akna Szlatina, Ukraine;
EISDORFER - Hungary;
FRIEDMAN, GOLDSTEIN, north eastern Hungary;
NEIMAN (NAJMAN) Bedevla(Beddo), Ukraine.


Robert Dodell wrote:

Great grandfather known as Leb, but seen a "Geburtshein" document from
Austria (1909) that lists name as Moses Leb. Could the government
added the name Moses to indicate he was Jewish or could the family
have lost the knowledge of the name? (I am not even sure what
Geburtshein is)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Moses Leib #general

Rony Golan <golanron@...>
 

Robert,

My grandfather Moses Leib SLOMOVITS was born in Akna Szlatina,
Chechoslovakia. He lived in Sighet, and in all the documents that I found he
is named: Leib (including an Auschwitz card).

My mother says he was Moses Leib, and his nephew as well as my brother are
named after him (Moshe).
I have not found anywhere any document naming him a Moses.

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel

Researching:

KRAMARUTSKY - Kaunas, Vandzigala, Lithuania;
SLOMOVITS - Sighet, Raozavlea, Stramtura, Romania; Akna Szlatina, Ukraine;
EISDORFER - Hungary;
FRIEDMAN, GOLDSTEIN, north eastern Hungary;
NEIMAN (NAJMAN) Bedevla(Beddo), Ukraine.


Robert Dodell wrote:

Great grandfather known as Leb, but seen a "Geburtshein" document from
Austria (1909) that lists name as Moses Leb. Could the government
added the name Moses to indicate he was Jewish or could the family
have lost the knowledge of the name? (I am not even sure what
Geburtshein is)


Re: Moses Leb / Leb #general

Israel P
 

I wasn't going to relate to this thread since going by a middle name is not at
all uncommon. But Fraida's phrase "lost the knowledge" reminded me of one of
our Pikholz ancestors - Josef, whose name occasionally appears as Itzig Josef.

from the documents and references, it was clear that he went by his middle
name and those named for him soon after his 1862 death (generally
grandchildren) were given the full name - often going by the middle name
themselves. Those born later - generally great-grandchildren - were called
just Josef, probably because their (younger) parents didn't realize that there
was a longer official name.

Israel Pickholtz


Quoting JewishGen Discussion Group digest <jewishgen@...>:

It is also possible that your gf was known among people as Leb and people
might not have known his official Hebrew name. As you guessed, most likely
people lost the knowledge of the full name.

Good luck in your research,
Fraida Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Moses Leb / Leb #general

Israel P
 

I wasn't going to relate to this thread since going by a middle name is not at
all uncommon. But Fraida's phrase "lost the knowledge" reminded me of one of
our Pikholz ancestors - Josef, whose name occasionally appears as Itzig Josef.

from the documents and references, it was clear that he went by his middle
name and those named for him soon after his 1862 death (generally
grandchildren) were given the full name - often going by the middle name
themselves. Those born later - generally great-grandchildren - were called
just Josef, probably because their (younger) parents didn't realize that there
was a longer official name.

Israel Pickholtz


Quoting JewishGen Discussion Group digest <jewishgen@...>:

It is also possible that your gf was known among people as Leb and people
might not have known his official Hebrew name. As you guessed, most likely
people lost the knowledge of the full name.

Good luck in your research,
Fraida Cohen