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Plozk Yeshiva and Yishuv #general

Aliza <alizam@...>
 

Dear All,
from a letter written by my great uncle to my father I have
learned that my great Grandfather Sholom Dov Ber Steinhart
born @1856 in Vitebsk went to live with an uncle on a Yishuv
near Plozk. I believe the word Yishuv refers to the Jewish
Agricultural Colonies. I have found names of a few
settlements in that area >from the Jewish Encyclopedia.com:
Kukhari, Dzhikovich, and Rodolobovka but have been unable to
find any information about those settlements. The letter
states that he studied at the Plotzke Yeshiva as well.
Can anyone confirm for me that Yishuv does refer to the
agricultural colonies?
Can anyone help me find information about the colonies in
the area of Plozk? I have already tried using the shtetlinks
at jewishgen.
Any information on the subject of the family name and towns
mentioned would be most appreciated.
Sincerely,
Aliza Maor
Rishon Le Zion


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Plozk Yeshiva and Yishuv #general

Aliza <alizam@...>
 

Dear All,
from a letter written by my great uncle to my father I have
learned that my great Grandfather Sholom Dov Ber Steinhart
born @1856 in Vitebsk went to live with an uncle on a Yishuv
near Plozk. I believe the word Yishuv refers to the Jewish
Agricultural Colonies. I have found names of a few
settlements in that area >from the Jewish Encyclopedia.com:
Kukhari, Dzhikovich, and Rodolobovka but have been unable to
find any information about those settlements. The letter
states that he studied at the Plotzke Yeshiva as well.
Can anyone confirm for me that Yishuv does refer to the
agricultural colonies?
Can anyone help me find information about the colonies in
the area of Plozk? I have already tried using the shtetlinks
at jewishgen.
Any information on the subject of the family name and towns
mentioned would be most appreciated.
Sincerely,
Aliza Maor
Rishon Le Zion


Re: more from my visit in bialystok #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

yael halamchi wrote:

In my last massge about my visit in bialystok i forgeat to remined the
bialystok local libary whos near the archive,they have the bialystok
business guide >from 1929 that incloding many jewish names.
when you going out >from the archive you going left passing a big church
crossing the road stright into a white buliding,in the libary office
you will find one woman with a short hair whos speaks einglish shes
very helpful,generally all the libary staff was very helpful.
yours
yael halacmi
isreal
resarch:strenfeld,finstion and boyarski >from bialystok
In 2001 I met with the libraries director Jan Leonczuk. He is very
knowledgeable about the history of the Bialystok area. Unfortunately he
doesn't seem to speak English. I had a translator and was also with a
Polish friend who knows him quite well. I think having just met me he
was understandably somewhat reluctant to entirely open up to me. His
first concern was to establish that "Zabludow was no Yedwabne".

Tilford Bartman, www.zabludow.com


Thanks to the Moderator #general

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

I want to thank the Moderator for letting through the explanations
about the "travelling Hanukkiah".
Born immediately after 2ww I grew up in Romania , under a very
restrictive communist regime and my parents never taught me religion
or Jewish history. I am now, through Jewishgen, discovering
a new world and therefore I am very interested in everything that has
connection with it.

I consider Jewishgen not only a genealogical forum but an
educational one. And information about historical, regional and religious
subjects can help me/us to better understand our families and predecessors
lives.

Thanks again to the Moderator and of course to Naomi Fatouros and Judith
Romney Wegner who brought light over the subject and finally to Donna Rice
for bringing up the question.

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm
WEISZ - Valea lui Mihai/Salonta/ Oradea, ROSZLER/RESSLER - Zrenjanin/Budapest,
ROSMANN - Alba Julia, WAGNER - Sighet.


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: more from my visit in bialystok #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

yael halamchi wrote:

In my last massge about my visit in bialystok i forgeat to remined the
bialystok local libary whos near the archive,they have the bialystok
business guide >from 1929 that incloding many jewish names.
when you going out >from the archive you going left passing a big church
crossing the road stright into a white buliding,in the libary office
you will find one woman with a short hair whos speaks einglish shes
very helpful,generally all the libary staff was very helpful.
yours
yael halacmi
isreal
resarch:strenfeld,finstion and boyarski >from bialystok
In 2001 I met with the libraries director Jan Leonczuk. He is very
knowledgeable about the history of the Bialystok area. Unfortunately he
doesn't seem to speak English. I had a translator and was also with a
Polish friend who knows him quite well. I think having just met me he
was understandably somewhat reluctant to entirely open up to me. His
first concern was to establish that "Zabludow was no Yedwabne".

Tilford Bartman, www.zabludow.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks to the Moderator #general

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

I want to thank the Moderator for letting through the explanations
about the "travelling Hanukkiah".
Born immediately after 2ww I grew up in Romania , under a very
restrictive communist regime and my parents never taught me religion
or Jewish history. I am now, through Jewishgen, discovering
a new world and therefore I am very interested in everything that has
connection with it.

I consider Jewishgen not only a genealogical forum but an
educational one. And information about historical, regional and religious
subjects can help me/us to better understand our families and predecessors
lives.

Thanks again to the Moderator and of course to Naomi Fatouros and Judith
Romney Wegner who brought light over the subject and finally to Donna Rice
for bringing up the question.

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm
WEISZ - Valea lui Mihai/Salonta/ Oradea, ROSZLER/RESSLER - Zrenjanin/Budapest,
ROSMANN - Alba Julia, WAGNER - Sighet.


Hebrew Subscription Lists? (Sefer HaPrenumerantn) #general

Tom Chatt
 

In the book _Where We Once Walked_, one of the sources referenced is called
the Hebrew Subsription Lists (Sefer HaPrenumerantn). It is also one of the
primary sources for Chester Cohen's _Shtetl Finder_. As it is described, it
seems to be a list of people who had prepaid for various books to be
published. It sounds like a fascinating resource, as not only would it give
you a list of names of people and their villages, but it would let you know
what they were reading! :-) Has anyone seen this book before? Can someone
describe in a bit more detail what kind of information can be found in it?
Also, is it written in Yiddish or in English?

Thanks!
Tom Chatt
Los Angeles, CA
BRAUTMAN, SPERBERG (in Makhnovka, Ukr), LITTMAN, SCHO"N (in Bohemia?)


Rabbi George Gottlieb, NY Lower East Side 1892? #general

Tom Chatt
 

Anybody know of a Rabbi George Gottlieb, who resided on Ridge Street, in the
Lower East Side of Manhattan in 1892? He officiated the wedding of my
great-grandparents. It would be interesting to find out what congregation
this rabbi served, where he was from, etc. If this name rings a bell with
anyone, please respond privately.

Thanks!
Tom Chatt
Los Angeles, CA
BRAUTMAN, SPERBERG (Makhnovka, Ukr); LITTMAN, SCHO"N (in Bohemia?)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew Subscription Lists? (Sefer HaPrenumerantn) #general

Tom Chatt
 

In the book _Where We Once Walked_, one of the sources referenced is called
the Hebrew Subsription Lists (Sefer HaPrenumerantn). It is also one of the
primary sources for Chester Cohen's _Shtetl Finder_. As it is described, it
seems to be a list of people who had prepaid for various books to be
published. It sounds like a fascinating resource, as not only would it give
you a list of names of people and their villages, but it would let you know
what they were reading! :-) Has anyone seen this book before? Can someone
describe in a bit more detail what kind of information can be found in it?
Also, is it written in Yiddish or in English?

Thanks!
Tom Chatt
Los Angeles, CA
BRAUTMAN, SPERBERG (in Makhnovka, Ukr), LITTMAN, SCHO"N (in Bohemia?)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi George Gottlieb, NY Lower East Side 1892? #general

Tom Chatt
 

Anybody know of a Rabbi George Gottlieb, who resided on Ridge Street, in the
Lower East Side of Manhattan in 1892? He officiated the wedding of my
great-grandparents. It would be interesting to find out what congregation
this rabbi served, where he was from, etc. If this name rings a bell with
anyone, please respond privately.

Thanks!
Tom Chatt
Los Angeles, CA
BRAUTMAN, SPERBERG (Makhnovka, Ukr); LITTMAN, SCHO"N (in Bohemia?)


Info on NYC marriage cert #general

Elynn Boss <bossgen@...>
 

I want to thank Lynn Shapiro for putting the web site address for the
online search for LDS index of marriage records. I have in the past
written directly to NY for my great-grandfathers brothers marriage
records with I only had an approximate date for. Of course they weren't
found, and of course I paid money for the search of not found.

I went to the web site www.familysearch.org and keyed Herman Abrahams
married to Ide in the US. Bingo - found them married in NYC in May 1904
- parents names were the same and my great-grandfather which is what I
have been trying to confirm. Then I did Abraham Abrahams to Rose and
bingo again - found Abe Abrahams to Rosie - again with the same parents.

Thank you so much for the tip that has opened a door for me. Now to get
the actual record.

Elynn Boss


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Info on NYC marriage cert #general

Elynn Boss <bossgen@...>
 

I want to thank Lynn Shapiro for putting the web site address for the
online search for LDS index of marriage records. I have in the past
written directly to NY for my great-grandfathers brothers marriage
records with I only had an approximate date for. Of course they weren't
found, and of course I paid money for the search of not found.

I went to the web site www.familysearch.org and keyed Herman Abrahams
married to Ide in the US. Bingo - found them married in NYC in May 1904
- parents names were the same and my great-grandfather which is what I
have been trying to confirm. Then I did Abraham Abrahams to Rose and
bingo again - found Abe Abrahams to Rosie - again with the same parents.

Thank you so much for the tip that has opened a door for me. Now to get
the actual record.

Elynn Boss


JRI Poland #Poland Mother and daughter with same first name? #poland

Roberta Berman <rbrta@...>
 

I am also interested in the answer to this. I have a woman who was born in
Lomza about 1860 and given the name Chaya. I have a copy of her birth
record.

Her daughter was born in Lomza about 1885, but I have not located a birth
record for her and I do not know what name she was given in Poland. The
family came to the United States in 1892. The mother and daughter both
had the name Ida in the U. S.

Roberta Berman
San Diego, CA


Re: port of Baltimore #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Don't forget that the Mormon Family History Centers can provide access to
these microfilms, even if you live in Arizona.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"dennis gries" <dgries@...> wrote in message
news:20040825113952.0B9043F50@......

X-No-archive: yes
Two researchers >from Arizona just posted about the same question.

How to find records of those who came into the Port of Baltimore, or
possibly Philadelphia, rather than into New York/Ellis Island.

All of those records are available at NARA in Philadelphia, and also in
Washington DC. They are indexed, including the time periods not indexed
for NYC.

I would help you on this but for our move >from the PHila area on August 30.

Perhaps one of the readers of this list >from the Phila area/JGSGP can try to
assist both of you on your requests, or perhaps the folks at NARA in PHL can
at least look at the index films for you (I don't know how much they are
allowed to do).

Good luck

Dennis Gries - Fort Washington, PA


Mother and daughter with same first name? #poland

Roberta Berman <rbrta@...>
 

I am also interested in the answer to this. I have a woman who was born in
Lomza about 1860 and given the name Chaya. I have a copy of her birth
record.

Her daughter was born in Lomza about 1885, but I have not located a birth
record for her and I do not know what name she was given in Poland. The
family came to the United States in 1892. The mother and daughter both
had the name Ida in the U. S.

Roberta Berman
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: port of Baltimore #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Don't forget that the Mormon Family History Centers can provide access to
these microfilms, even if you live in Arizona.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"dennis gries" <dgries@...> wrote in message
news:20040825113952.0B9043F50@......

X-No-archive: yes
Two researchers >from Arizona just posted about the same question.

How to find records of those who came into the Port of Baltimore, or
possibly Philadelphia, rather than into New York/Ellis Island.

All of those records are available at NARA in Philadelphia, and also in
Washington DC. They are indexed, including the time periods not indexed
for NYC.

I would help you on this but for our move >from the PHila area on August 30.

Perhaps one of the readers of this list >from the Phila area/JGSGP can try to
assist both of you on your requests, or perhaps the folks at NARA in PHL can
at least look at the index films for you (I don't know how much they are
allowed to do).

Good luck

Dennis Gries - Fort Washington, PA


Re: Acrostic on gravestone #general

Ury Link
 

Dear Genners,
The use of a Acrostichon (acrostic) on a gravestone is a common custom
,not only under the Jews. If you walk in a cemetery in you home town I am
sure that you find a lot of gravestone with a Acrostichon. it is not one
book that you take it out, Jews normal used the book of psalm, the book
Song of Song or the book of Proverbs as a source for their inspiration .of
course you can also use you on source for the engraving on the tomb. It is
not a rule for this custom as I know.
Best regards
Ury Link
Amsterdam
Holland

Subject: acrostic on gravestone
From: Elsie Duman <>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 04:07:22 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
My great-grandmother died and was buried in Philadelphia in 1916. Her grave
is marked with a vertical stone containing an acrostic poem, in Yiddish, of
her name, Genessa. Has anyone seen a similar marker? Was there a book
containing appropriate verses for names? Thanks for any information.
Elsie Duman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Acrostic on gravestone #general

Ury Link
 

Dear Genners,
The use of a Acrostichon (acrostic) on a gravestone is a common custom
,not only under the Jews. If you walk in a cemetery in you home town I am
sure that you find a lot of gravestone with a Acrostichon. it is not one
book that you take it out, Jews normal used the book of psalm, the book
Song of Song or the book of Proverbs as a source for their inspiration .of
course you can also use you on source for the engraving on the tomb. It is
not a rule for this custom as I know.
Best regards
Ury Link
Amsterdam
Holland

Subject: acrostic on gravestone
From: Elsie Duman <>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 04:07:22 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
My great-grandmother died and was buried in Philadelphia in 1916. Her grave
is marked with a vertical stone containing an acrostic poem, in Yiddish, of
her name, Genessa. Has anyone seen a similar marker? Was there a book
containing appropriate verses for names? Thanks for any information.
Elsie Duman


Re: Yosef Dov, Dov Joseph #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:48:57 UTC, MBernet@... opined:

In a message dated 8/25/2004 2:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, YLCA87@...
writes:

. . . my ggf's stone, . . . .an anacrostic of his name Yosef Dov

Canadian-born Dov (Bernerd) Joseph was military governor of Jerusalem in 1948
and for many years thereafter served in the Israeli cabinet in various
positions.

Made me wonder whether there is some sort of connection between the names
Yosef and Dov.

Michael Bernet, New York
Given the relatively small inventory of usual Hebrew names, any pair of
names can be expected to occur repeatedly, even without any connection
between the two. Only frequent repetition can imply a connection, and even
then, the only connection may be that the pair was inherited intact >from a
prestigious namesake. I think that is the reason I see so many
"Barukh-Meier" persons in distinct lines of my database.

Surnames that are also given names, leading to full names like Yosef Dov/Dov
Yosef and Shalom David/David Shalom (and there are many others) do make one
wonder whether the people who take them (or who foist them onto defenseless
infants) think beforehand about the confusion they are causing.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Yosef Dov, Dov Joseph #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:48:57 UTC, MBernet@... opined:

In a message dated 8/25/2004 2:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, YLCA87@...
writes:

. . . my ggf's stone, . . . .an anacrostic of his name Yosef Dov

Canadian-born Dov (Bernerd) Joseph was military governor of Jerusalem in 1948
and for many years thereafter served in the Israeli cabinet in various
positions.

Made me wonder whether there is some sort of connection between the names
Yosef and Dov.

Michael Bernet, New York
Given the relatively small inventory of usual Hebrew names, any pair of
names can be expected to occur repeatedly, even without any connection
between the two. Only frequent repetition can imply a connection, and even
then, the only connection may be that the pair was inherited intact >from a
prestigious namesake. I think that is the reason I see so many
"Barukh-Meier" persons in distinct lines of my database.

Surnames that are also given names, leading to full names like Yosef Dov/Dov
Yosef and Shalom David/David Shalom (and there are many others) do make one
wonder whether the people who take them (or who foist them onto defenseless
infants) think beforehand about the confusion they are causing.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com
For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.