It was a bit after 9 am local time. See:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/1995/950331-0.htm
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=03311995®=YR-LCC&airline=Tarom
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/1995/1995-11.htm

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada

Researching:
Lustgarten, Sommer/Zumar, Israelovitch >from Falticeni, Romania
Hymovitch, Perl, >from Kishinev, Moldova and somewhere in Romania

It was a bit after 9 am local time. See:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/1995/950331-0.htm
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=03311995®=YR-LCC&airline=Tarom
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/1995/1995-11.htm

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada

Researching:
Lustgarten, Sommer/Zumar, Israelovitch >from Falticeni, Romania
Hymovitch, Perl, >from Kishinev, Moldova and somewhere in Romania

I have received a CD with a copy of the list of names and layout of
the "new" Hildesheim Jewish cemetery that is part of their main cemetery.
It does not include the names >from the old cemetery in Teich Strasse, which
dates back to the early 19th century or before. - The Peinestrasse cemetery
includes some monuments for the holocaust victims. There are also some
individual histories and other data.
Contact me privately for more details. The CD was apparently put out
my the local community AG Beth Shalom with help >from the Robert Bosch School
under the guidance of Christian Augustin.

They hope to publish the material in book format with the addition of more
individual histories.
A E-mail address is included for contact for additions and corrections.

Gunther Steinberg Portola Valley CA 94028 <mailto:beagun27@...>

I have received a CD with a copy of the list of names and layout of
the "new" Hildesheim Jewish cemetery that is part of their main cemetery.
It does not include the names >from the old cemetery in Teich Strasse, which
dates back to the early 19th century or before. - The Peinestrasse cemetery
includes some monuments for the holocaust victims. There are also some
individual histories and other data.
Contact me privately for more details. The CD was apparently put out
my the local community AG Beth Shalom with help >from the Robert Bosch School
under the guidance of Christian Augustin.

They hope to publish the material in book format with the addition of more
individual histories.
A E-mail address is included for contact for additions and corrections.

Gunther Steinberg Portola Valley CA 94028 <mailto:beagun27@...>

For the past several years I have been a member of the GermanSIG, where
I mistakenly thought I belonged. In 2001, I traveled to Salt Lake City,
Utah in order to spend a week at the Family History Library. In a state
best described as "ignorant hubris" I expected to be able to assemble
records for my LIEBERMANN family tree (paternal) during that single week,
even though I knew only the name, not the birthplace, of my great
grandfather, the first to arrive in America.
I left Salt Lake humbled with only two (2) LIEBERMANN records in hand.
The first was a 1874 NYC marriage record for "Valentine LIEBERMANN" (born
Obergeis, Hesse, Germany, 1820); the second was a 1880 US census record for
"Fallentin LEIBERMANN" (born Metz, 1820). Ignoring the contradiction in the
two records, I mistakenly spent several years accumulating records for the
first Valentin' s family, which was Lutheran and not my father's. My great
grandfather was the Fallentin LEIBERMANN born in Metz. He left France for
America in 1852, listed as "Valentin ROBERS" on the manifest.
After a careful review, I found only one "Valentin" listed in the 1784
Census of Jews in Alsace. He was Valentin LEVY >from Hirsingue and I am
interested in finding records for his descendants, as well as for other
names listed below.
Joan C. Lieberman
Boulder, Colorado USA

Searching:
LEIBERMANN, LIEBERMANN, LIBERMANN - France and USA
LEVY, HALLER, and HALPHEN - France, USA
SCHMIDT, BAMBERGER, SECKENDORf - Bavaria and USA
BITTLINGMEYER, ROCHOW, MAY - France,Germany and USA
PELCYGIER, PELSINGER, PELZYGER - Russia/Poland and USA
CHALFIN, HOROWITZ, CANTOR - Russia,Poland and USA
DUCOR, BINDLER, PALEYES - Russia and US

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For the past several years I have been a member of the GermanSIG, where
I mistakenly thought I belonged. In 2001, I traveled to Salt Lake City,
Utah in order to spend a week at the Family History Library. In a state
best described as "ignorant hubris" I expected to be able to assemble
records for my LIEBERMANN family tree (paternal) during that single week,
even though I knew only the name, not the birthplace, of my great
grandfather, the first to arrive in America.
I left Salt Lake humbled with only two (2) LIEBERMANN records in hand.
The first was a 1874 NYC marriage record for "Valentine LIEBERMANN" (born
Obergeis, Hesse, Germany, 1820); the second was a 1880 US census record for
"Fallentin LEIBERMANN" (born Metz, 1820). Ignoring the contradiction in the
two records, I mistakenly spent several years accumulating records for the
first Valentin' s family, which was Lutheran and not my father's. My great
grandfather was the Fallentin LEIBERMANN born in Metz. He left France for
America in 1852, listed as "Valentin ROBERS" on the manifest.
After a careful review, I found only one "Valentin" listed in the 1784
Census of Jews in Alsace. He was Valentin LEVY >from Hirsingue and I am
interested in finding records for his descendants, as well as for other
names listed below.
Joan C. Lieberman
Boulder, Colorado USA

Searching:
LEIBERMANN, LIEBERMANN, LIBERMANN - France and USA
LEVY, HALLER, and HALPHEN - France, USA
SCHMIDT, BAMBERGER, SECKENDORf - Bavaria and USA
BITTLINGMEYER, ROCHOW, MAY - France,Germany and USA
PELCYGIER, PELSINGER, PELZYGER - Russia/Poland and USA
CHALFIN, HOROWITZ, CANTOR - Russia,Poland and USA
DUCOR, BINDLER, PALEYES - Russia and US

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to the FrenchSIG! One of JewishGen's most heavily
visited sites is the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections
are being made more and more frequently. If you have not already done so,
please log onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure
enter and register all the surnames of interest to your family research.
As you learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added,
but only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.

A family member was killed in the Tarom plane crash in Bucharest 31 March
1995. Does someone know the time of day, so I can pin down the yahrzeit?

Israel Pickholtz

A family member was killed in the Tarom plane crash in Bucharest 31 March
1995. Does someone know the time of day, so I can pin down the yahrzeit?

Israel Pickholtz

Max:

You mention different AGAD. What you mean is that the vital
records for the towns where your ancestors were born were
registered in different Administrative towns. The Austrian laws
that went into effect in 1877 identified where each town with a
Jewish population registered their vital events. Although
Kobylowloki (now Zhovtnevoye) and Zwiniacz (now Zvinyach) are
only 5.9 miles apart, their vital events were registered in
different Administrative towns -- Janow and Budzanow
respectively. Janow (now Ivano Frankovo) was an Administrative
town within the larger Trembowla district. Likewise, Budzanow was
an Administrative town within the larger Czortkow district.

Although Zwiniacz and Dzwiniaczka are close in spelling, I do not
think the registrars made a mistake in their recording of the
birth. Apparently, your great grandparents had their children in
different towns, some of which are about 50 miles apart. I think
you will find that others have this same kind of situation in
their families. In my family, the predominant occupation was in
the Distilling business. Many of the men were leaseholders under
the Arendarz system. I have found ancestors that had children in
4 different towns, some separated by 30-50 miles. My assumption
is that the family moved >from leasehold to leasehold for the
greater economic opportunity.

Another situation I have seen is that the pregnant mother stayed
in her parents home for some births and in her husband's parents
home for other births.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

Do you know a family called BLOCK? If so..
Please could you ask if they are descendants of Simon & Jennie/Janey BLOCK?
Simon BLOCK married Jennie (Janey) DOFF in 1930 in London's East End.
Simon BLOCK was a policeman and he & his wife were born approx 1900.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@...
Also searching for surnames:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Wasaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from the Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

Dear Genners,
Do you have a Lazarus RADLOWSKY (or anyone similar) on your family tree?
Lazarus (Lazar?) was probably born around 1850 in Poland.
He lived at 5 Mathilda Street in London and his cousins were called GOLDSTEIN.
RADLOWSKY may also have been spelt RADLOWSKI, but I guess, was pronounced
Rad-loff-ski.
If any bells ring, please email me privately!
Daniel Gleek in London

Max:

You mention different AGAD. What you mean is that the vital
records for the towns where your ancestors were born were
registered in different Administrative towns. The Austrian laws
that went into effect in 1877 identified where each town with a
Jewish population registered their vital events. Although
Kobylowloki (now Zhovtnevoye) and Zwiniacz (now Zvinyach) are
only 5.9 miles apart, their vital events were registered in
different Administrative towns -- Janow and Budzanow
respectively. Janow (now Ivano Frankovo) was an Administrative
town within the larger Trembowla district. Likewise, Budzanow was
an Administrative town within the larger Czortkow district.

Although Zwiniacz and Dzwiniaczka are close in spelling, I do not
think the registrars made a mistake in their recording of the
birth. Apparently, your great grandparents had their children in
different towns, some of which are about 50 miles apart. I think
you will find that others have this same kind of situation in
their families. In my family, the predominant occupation was in
the Distilling business. Many of the men were leaseholders under
the Arendarz system. I have found ancestors that had children in
4 different towns, some separated by 30-50 miles. My assumption
is that the family moved >from leasehold to leasehold for the
greater economic opportunity.

Another situation I have seen is that the pregnant mother stayed
in her parents home for some births and in her husband's parents
home for other births.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

Dear Genners,
Do you have a Lazarus RADLOWSKY (or anyone similar) on your family tree?
Lazarus (Lazar?) was probably born around 1850 in Poland.
He lived at 5 Mathilda Street in London and his cousins were called GOLDSTEIN.
RADLOWSKY may also have been spelt RADLOWSKI, but I guess, was pronounced
Rad-loff-ski.
If any bells ring, please email me privately!
Daniel Gleek in London

Do you know a family called BLOCK? If so..
Please could you ask if they are descendants of Simon & Jennie/Janey BLOCK?
Simon BLOCK married Jennie (Janey) DOFF in 1930 in London's East End.
Simon BLOCK was a policeman and he & his wife were born approx 1900.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@...
Also searching for surnames:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Wasaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from the Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

Do you know a family called SALMON? If so..
Please could you ask if they are related to Simon (Sidney) and Mary SALMON?
(They were both born about 1900 - no connection to the Lyons tea rooms!)
Sid/Simon SALMON married Mary DOFF in 1932 in London's East End.
The couple moved to Blackpool before the war where they ran a boarding house.
Mr Salmon is thought to have been a jewellery saleman.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@...

I would like to make contact with anyone who has the Surname of ZIPSER in
conneciton to any of thier findings.
Thanks for your time.
Brenda Shank
Goshen, IN USA
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I am researching my grandfather's family history. Samuel BELLUCK was born March
12, 1884 in Minsk, Russia. His father's name was Julian or Julius and he may have
been a tailor. The family spoke Yiddish (in case this is of any importance).

I have searched numerous Belarus websites and cannot find a surname which is
spelled or sounds like 'BELLUCK". I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge
about the surname and possibly forward me information.
Thank you,
Frances Merrill,
North Andover,MA
(fmerrill1@...)

I would like to make contact with anyone who has the Surname of ZIPSER in
conneciton to any of thier findings.
Thanks for your time.
Brenda Shank
Goshen, IN USA
***
MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget to list your
surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

I am researching my grandfather's family history. Samuel BELLUCK was born March
12, 1884 in Minsk, Russia. His father's name was Julian or Julius and he may have
been a tailor. The family spoke Yiddish (in case this is of any importance).

I have searched numerous Belarus websites and cannot find a surname which is
spelled or sounds like 'BELLUCK". I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge
about the surname and possibly forward me information.
Thank you,
Frances Merrill,
North Andover,MA
(fmerrill1@...)

Do you know a family called SALMON? If so..
Please could you ask if they are related to Simon (Sidney) and Mary SALMON?
(They were both born about 1900 - no connection to the Lyons tea rooms!)
Sid/Simon SALMON married Mary DOFF in 1932 in London's East End.
The couple moved to Blackpool before the war where they ran a boarding house.
Mr Salmon is thought to have been a jewellery saleman.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@...