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other names for Patskanove Ukraine #hungary

cohentalk@...
 

Dear Members,

In 1840, my greatgrandmother Szerena/Zali/Sari nee SCHWARCZ EISENBERG, daughter of Herman, was born in Patskanyosz Bereg Hungary.

Patskanove/Packanyosz is 4835 2236. It is about 10 miles NNW of Mukachevo. Are Patakos, Paks, Pats other names for Patskanove or different towns?

Thanks for your help,
Linda Cohen
Michigan USA

KATZ >from Sapinta RO, Tyachevo, Mukachevo, & Rosvegove Ukraine
AXELRATH,EKSTEIN,WEISS >from Mukachevo & Rosvegove Ukraine
EISENBERG >from Szobatin & Zsukovo Ukraine
SCHWARCZ >from Patskanove & Zsukovo Ukraine
DRUCKER & BECKER >from Vladymir(Ludmir)Volhynia Ukraine
EPSTEIN & ROTHMAN >from Nevolozh Slutsk Belarus


Revesz family #hungary

annsel <annsel@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am looking for any members of the Joseph Revesz family who lived in NY,
specifically Manhattan Bronx & Arverne Queens. The family had 4 daughters. I
believe there may be a link to my Great Grandmother Esther Revesz Schwach.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would also like to hear >from the
lady who wanted to know of my Berkovic, Grosshandler connections >from M.
Jestreb. M. Jestreb was a very small town and I really know very little
about it. It was or maybe still is in Zemplen Megye, nearest big town Kiraly
Helmcz Slovakia.If anyone can add any information about this town I would
like to hear >from them. I want to thank all those who took the time to
translate Rosenbaum documents for me. It has been a tremendous help. This
group is great!

Anne Selikov
So Cal


Hungary SIG #Hungary Revesz family #hungary

annsel <annsel@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am looking for any members of the Joseph Revesz family who lived in NY,
specifically Manhattan Bronx & Arverne Queens. The family had 4 daughters. I
believe there may be a link to my Great Grandmother Esther Revesz Schwach.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would also like to hear >from the
lady who wanted to know of my Berkovic, Grosshandler connections >from M.
Jestreb. M. Jestreb was a very small town and I really know very little
about it. It was or maybe still is in Zemplen Megye, nearest big town Kiraly
Helmcz Slovakia.If anyone can add any information about this town I would
like to hear >from them. I want to thank all those who took the time to
translate Rosenbaum documents for me. It has been a tremendous help. This
group is great!

Anne Selikov
So Cal


Hungary SIG #Hungary other names for Patskanove Ukraine #hungary

cohentalk@...
 

Dear Members,

In 1840, my greatgrandmother Szerena/Zali/Sari nee SCHWARCZ EISENBERG, daughter of Herman, was born in Patskanyosz Bereg Hungary.

Patskanove/Packanyosz is 4835 2236. It is about 10 miles NNW of Mukachevo. Are Patakos, Paks, Pats other names for Patskanove or different towns?

Thanks for your help,
Linda Cohen
Michigan USA

KATZ >from Sapinta RO, Tyachevo, Mukachevo, & Rosvegove Ukraine
AXELRATH,EKSTEIN,WEISS >from Mukachevo & Rosvegove Ukraine
EISENBERG >from Szobatin & Zsukovo Ukraine
SCHWARCZ >from Patskanove & Zsukovo Ukraine
DRUCKER & BECKER >from Vladymir(Ludmir)Volhynia Ukraine
EPSTEIN & ROTHMAN >from Nevolozh Slutsk Belarus


Deutsch - Mad #hungary

Diane Rabson <dmrabson@...>
 

The Deutsch family is prominent in Mad, not far from
Miskolc. When I was there in July visiting the Mad
synagogue, some Deutsch descendants now living in
America had either just visited or were also visiting.
The people we spoke to in the town were quite excited
about that, and asked if I was related to the Deutsch
family. I recently browsed the LDS microfilm for Mad
(births, deaths and marriages) and saw quite a few
Deutsches.

Diane Rabson
Boulder, Colorado USA


illegitimate #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

In a message dated 8/9/04 2:34:53 AM, h-sig@... writes:

n Munkacs, my grandparents had a Jewish marriage ceremony about 1909. My
father was born 1910 and listed in the birth record with his mother's
surname.
In 1915, they had a civil ceremony.

My questions:
1. I assume that my father used and was recognized by his father's name
in shul. Correct?
Of course
2. Would my father and other children in similar circumstance,
have used the father's surname for school or for Yeshiva?
Usually, everyone would refer to him by his father's family name, except for
official purposes
3. What surname would the community have used for him, such as for government
records?
Mother's name
4. In order to use his father's surname, did my father have to legally
change his surname?-- In Hungary? In USA?
Yes. Either.
5. When my grandparents had their civil ceremony, did the government finally
recognize all of the children as my grandfather's?
They probably always recognized his father's contribution, often the original
birth register includes a note as to who the father was.

Rabbi A. Marmorstein


Photo identification - VeiwMath #hungary

Tomer Brunner <tomerbr@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,
I have posted an old photo on ViewMath.
( http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html )

The photographed person might be >from either Austria, Hungary or the area,
and looks like an orthodox Jew. The back of the photo mentions Wien and
Baden.

Please take a look at the 2 images (VM4546 & VM4547):
Direct links:

front side:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4546

back side:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4547

Please let me know if you recognize this person.

Please reply directly to me at : tomerbr@...
unless of general interest to the all list.

Best regards,
Tomer Brunner, Israel.

(Please remember that the files remain on JewishGen ViewMate for 7 days)


Hungary SIG #Hungary illegitimate #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

In a message dated 8/9/04 2:34:53 AM, h-sig@... writes:

n Munkacs, my grandparents had a Jewish marriage ceremony about 1909. My
father was born 1910 and listed in the birth record with his mother's
surname.
In 1915, they had a civil ceremony.

My questions:
1. I assume that my father used and was recognized by his father's name
in shul. Correct?
Of course
2. Would my father and other children in similar circumstance,
have used the father's surname for school or for Yeshiva?
Usually, everyone would refer to him by his father's family name, except for
official purposes
3. What surname would the community have used for him, such as for government
records?
Mother's name
4. In order to use his father's surname, did my father have to legally
change his surname?-- In Hungary? In USA?
Yes. Either.
5. When my grandparents had their civil ceremony, did the government finally
recognize all of the children as my grandfather's?
They probably always recognized his father's contribution, often the original
birth register includes a note as to who the father was.

Rabbi A. Marmorstein


Hungary SIG #Hungary Deutsch - Mad #hungary

Diane Rabson <dmrabson@...>
 

The Deutsch family is prominent in Mad, not far from
Miskolc. When I was there in July visiting the Mad
synagogue, some Deutsch descendants now living in
America had either just visited or were also visiting.
The people we spoke to in the town were quite excited
about that, and asked if I was related to the Deutsch
family. I recently browsed the LDS microfilm for Mad
(births, deaths and marriages) and saw quite a few
Deutsches.

Diane Rabson
Boulder, Colorado USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Photo identification - VeiwMath #hungary

Tomer Brunner <tomerbr@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,
I have posted an old photo on ViewMath.
( http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html )

The photographed person might be >from either Austria, Hungary or the area,
and looks like an orthodox Jew. The back of the photo mentions Wien and
Baden.

Please take a look at the 2 images (VM4546 & VM4547):
Direct links:

front side:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4546

back side:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4547

Please let me know if you recognize this person.

Please reply directly to me at : tomerbr@...
unless of general interest to the all list.

Best regards,
Tomer Brunner, Israel.

(Please remember that the files remain on JewishGen ViewMate for 7 days)


Re: Recipe for Strudel [Retes] #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

We gorged on chestnut puree when we were in Hungary in 1999.

Pat

At 09:10 PM 8/5/2004, Sheldon Pivnik wrote:
Going to Budapest----- The Budapest Marriott Hotel on the Danube has an
afternoon Pastry Table --""All you can eat" for approx $8.00 in Oct 2001
where I over-indulged on Apple Strudel--sometimes it being my dinner!.
My
Grandmother stretched the dough thinly across the Kitchen table allowing no
holes. She painted melted butter on it and /or oil and covered the entire
dough with peeled , thinly,sliced apples, cinnemon and sugar, chopped
walnuts and golden raisins, and then rolled it up still painting with oil
or butter. I am sure the recipe can be found using Filo dough which comes
in very fine sheets in Freezer case of Super-Market

As an aside--- The Ethnilogical Budapest Museum opposite the magnificent
Parliament Bldg. With the Red Carpeted staircase up to the Crown Jewels
has Birth, Marriage and Death depicted in Costume and the settings of the

countries represented, and somewhere on a wall is a photo of the kitchens
and of the women baking the Apple Strudel. If anyone goes, please photo
that photograph..

Carole Pivnik, Miami, Florida


Re: Deutsch Re: (Re)introduction #hungary

Oudeyis <victor@...>
 

Kitty,
My GMother, Lena Deutch was born in Berzevici a few kilometers South of
Presov in Slovakia. She married Itzhak Friedlander >from Boldva? a village
just North of Miskolc. I think Lena Deutch had a brother, Joseph Deutch
(Joe Deutch), who became a manufacturer of mattresses in Cleveland. Lena
Friedlander Deutch died in New York in the early '20s. Does this help?
Thanks,
Victor

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rottenberg" <d.rottenberg@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Deutsch Re: [h-sig] (Re)introduction


Kitty,

A distant Hungarian relative of mine named Rebecca Spielberger
(1846-1890) married a Leopold Deutsch. She was born in Zsarno (near
Miskolc) and died in Miskolc. She had four daughters, named
Goldfield, Friedman, Waldman and Hecht. All came to the U.S. but the
Deutsch name disappeared. I don't know anything else about Leopold.

If any of this rings a bell, let me know and I'll give you more details.

Good luck!
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA

Victor,
My grandmother's maiden name was Deutsch. I saw "Deutsch" as one of
the
family
names in your searches too. What country, city, does your Deutsch
ancestor
come
from? Mine is Hungarian,
Many thanks for your reply,
Kitty Sauber, NY
--------------
Dan Rottenberg
<snip>Philadelphia PA 19102
<snip>Reply to: d.rottenberg@...
Website: http://mysite.verizon.net/d.rottenberg


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Deutsch Re: (Re)introduction #hungary

Oudeyis <victor@...>
 

Kitty,
My GMother, Lena Deutch was born in Berzevici a few kilometers South of
Presov in Slovakia. She married Itzhak Friedlander >from Boldva? a village
just North of Miskolc. I think Lena Deutch had a brother, Joseph Deutch
(Joe Deutch), who became a manufacturer of mattresses in Cleveland. Lena
Friedlander Deutch died in New York in the early '20s. Does this help?
Thanks,
Victor

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rottenberg" <d.rottenberg@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Deutsch Re: [h-sig] (Re)introduction


Kitty,

A distant Hungarian relative of mine named Rebecca Spielberger
(1846-1890) married a Leopold Deutsch. She was born in Zsarno (near
Miskolc) and died in Miskolc. She had four daughters, named
Goldfield, Friedman, Waldman and Hecht. All came to the U.S. but the
Deutsch name disappeared. I don't know anything else about Leopold.

If any of this rings a bell, let me know and I'll give you more details.

Good luck!
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA

Victor,
My grandmother's maiden name was Deutsch. I saw "Deutsch" as one of
the
family
names in your searches too. What country, city, does your Deutsch
ancestor
come
from? Mine is Hungarian,
Many thanks for your reply,
Kitty Sauber, NY
--------------
Dan Rottenberg
<snip>Philadelphia PA 19102
<snip>Reply to: d.rottenberg@...
Website: http://mysite.verizon.net/d.rottenberg


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Recipe for Strudel [Retes] #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

We gorged on chestnut puree when we were in Hungary in 1999.

Pat

At 09:10 PM 8/5/2004, Sheldon Pivnik wrote:
Going to Budapest----- The Budapest Marriott Hotel on the Danube has an
afternoon Pastry Table --""All you can eat" for approx $8.00 in Oct 2001
where I over-indulged on Apple Strudel--sometimes it being my dinner!.
My
Grandmother stretched the dough thinly across the Kitchen table allowing no
holes. She painted melted butter on it and /or oil and covered the entire
dough with peeled , thinly,sliced apples, cinnemon and sugar, chopped
walnuts and golden raisins, and then rolled it up still painting with oil
or butter. I am sure the recipe can be found using Filo dough which comes
in very fine sheets in Freezer case of Super-Market

As an aside--- The Ethnilogical Budapest Museum opposite the magnificent
Parliament Bldg. With the Red Carpeted staircase up to the Crown Jewels
has Birth, Marriage and Death depicted in Costume and the settings of the

countries represented, and somewhere on a wall is a photo of the kitchens
and of the women baking the Apple Strudel. If anyone goes, please photo
that photograph..

Carole Pivnik, Miami, Florida


Fake mail to lyris.jewishgen #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Dear H-SIG-ers

To my surprise I got this morning an eMail >from jewishgen for
confirmation of my unsubscribe mail I never submitted. Here an extract
of their Mail.

Your email address '****' has been submitted to be unsubscribed from
the 'h-sig' mailing list.

This unsubscribe command requires your confirmation that you want to be
unsubscribed.

To confirm that you do want to unsubscribe, reply to this message so that
the words "ok ****" appear somewhere on the subject line.

Make sure that your reply message is addressed to
unsubscribe-confirm@...

You will receive notification that your confirmation has been received, and
that you have been unsubscribed.

If you do not want to unsubscribe, do nothing. You will be kept on the
mailing list.
It seems that to the different Viruses, Trojan's, Phishing etc. a new
kind of attack follows, did other members got also similar messages???

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Moderator: I have forwarded your mail to JewishGen technical assistance to find out what this is about. I will advise everyone as soon as I know.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fake mail to lyris.jewishgen #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Dear H-SIG-ers

To my surprise I got this morning an eMail >from jewishgen for
confirmation of my unsubscribe mail I never submitted. Here an extract
of their Mail.

Your email address '****' has been submitted to be unsubscribed from
the 'h-sig' mailing list.

This unsubscribe command requires your confirmation that you want to be
unsubscribed.

To confirm that you do want to unsubscribe, reply to this message so that
the words "ok ****" appear somewhere on the subject line.

Make sure that your reply message is addressed to
unsubscribe-confirm@...

You will receive notification that your confirmation has been received, and
that you have been unsubscribed.

If you do not want to unsubscribe, do nothing. You will be kept on the
mailing list.
It seems that to the different Viruses, Trojan's, Phishing etc. a new
kind of attack follows, did other members got also similar messages???

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Moderator: I have forwarded your mail to JewishGen technical assistance to find out what this is about. I will advise everyone as soon as I know.


July 2004 update for Yizkor Book Project #hungary

Joyce Field
 

July is usually a slow month because of the annual genealogy
conference, the preparations leading up to the conference, and the
post-conference vacations. But in July we hit a milestone: we now
have 600 entries in the yizkor book project and 384 individual books.
In July we added three new books, four new entries, and eight updates.

New books:

-Gyor, Hungary
-Pinkas HaKehillot Romania, tables of contents for volumes 1 and 2.
This is a tremendously useful list of towns with variant spellings
compiled by Shalom Bronstein and Rosanne Leeson. Our thanks to
Shalom and Rosanne for doing this difficult task.
-Ten Years of the State of Israel,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ten_years/ten_years.html.

New entries:

-Kedainiai (Keydan), Lithuania, >from Yahadut Lita
-Mielnica (Mel'nitza Podolskaya, Ukr), Pinkas HaKehillot, Poland, vol. 2
-Raseiniai (Raseyn), Lithuania, >from Yahadut Lita
-Rejowiec, Poland, >from Ten Years of the State of Israel

Updates:

-Bukowina: "Diary pages >from Czernowitz and Transnistria
(1941-1942)",Vol II, pp. 53-61, Geschichte der Juden in der Bukowina
-Krynki, Poland
-Minsk, Belarus
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Rzeszow, Poland
-Sochaczew, Poland
-Vileyka, Belarus
-Wyszkow, Poland

A few reminders for researchers:
-if you want to find if a yizkor book was written about your
ancestral town, check online at the Yizkor Book Database,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html.

-Fundraising yizkor book translation projects are listed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html. Your
donations will pay for professional translations of these books.
Supporting these important projects with a tax-deductible donation is
much appreciated.

-The Yizkor Book Project index is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. All translations
can be accessed >from this site. The translations are listed by modern
names and are organized in three categories: regions, communities,
and miscellaneous.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary July 2004 update for Yizkor Book Project #hungary

Joyce Field
 

July is usually a slow month because of the annual genealogy
conference, the preparations leading up to the conference, and the
post-conference vacations. But in July we hit a milestone: we now
have 600 entries in the yizkor book project and 384 individual books.
In July we added three new books, four new entries, and eight updates.

New books:

-Gyor, Hungary
-Pinkas HaKehillot Romania, tables of contents for volumes 1 and 2.
This is a tremendously useful list of towns with variant spellings
compiled by Shalom Bronstein and Rosanne Leeson. Our thanks to
Shalom and Rosanne for doing this difficult task.
-Ten Years of the State of Israel,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ten_years/ten_years.html.

New entries:

-Kedainiai (Keydan), Lithuania, >from Yahadut Lita
-Mielnica (Mel'nitza Podolskaya, Ukr), Pinkas HaKehillot, Poland, vol. 2
-Raseiniai (Raseyn), Lithuania, >from Yahadut Lita
-Rejowiec, Poland, >from Ten Years of the State of Israel

Updates:

-Bukowina: "Diary pages >from Czernowitz and Transnistria
(1941-1942)",Vol II, pp. 53-61, Geschichte der Juden in der Bukowina
-Krynki, Poland
-Minsk, Belarus
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Rzeszow, Poland
-Sochaczew, Poland
-Vileyka, Belarus
-Wyszkow, Poland

A few reminders for researchers:
-if you want to find if a yizkor book was written about your
ancestral town, check online at the Yizkor Book Database,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html.

-Fundraising yizkor book translation projects are listed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html. Your
donations will pay for professional translations of these books.
Supporting these important projects with a tax-deductible donation is
much appreciated.

-The Yizkor Book Project index is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. All translations
can be accessed >from this site. The translations are listed by modern
names and are organized in three categories: regions, communities,
and miscellaneous.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...


Re: Introduction #galicia

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Thursday, Aug 5, 2004, at 08:04 Canada/Eastern, William Schwartz
wrote:

Okay, I've been shamed into coming out of my lurking den. Actually, I
related to a recent post regarding (a) too many dead ends, (b) busy
busy life.

My mother's family (Petrover) lived in Hajdusamson until approximately
1935 when (according to my mother) the family home and business were
confiscated and they were forced to move to Nyireghaza. I was born in Nyireghaza
in 1944. My mother's maternal grandparents (Wertheimer) lived in
Nyirbator or Nyirbogat. The Petrover side of the family was originally >from Rachov
(again . . . I think). I haven't been able to find ANYTHING relating to her
immediate family in either Hajdusamson or Nyireghaza. The Red Cross
has been able to track some information about the death of some of the
family but I haven't found any birth or marriage records anywhere. I've
tried the LDS Library and everything online that I could think of. Any other
ideas?
Erika Schwartz
Santa Clarita, CA
Have you tried the Orszagos Leveltar (National Archives) of Hungary? At
their Becsi-ut film division you will more than likely find all the
info you need. I believe you can locate the OL on the internet and
order county lists of Jews for given years.

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Introduction #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Thursday, Aug 5, 2004, at 08:04 Canada/Eastern, William Schwartz
wrote:

Okay, I've been shamed into coming out of my lurking den. Actually, I
related to a recent post regarding (a) too many dead ends, (b) busy
busy life.

My mother's family (Petrover) lived in Hajdusamson until approximately
1935 when (according to my mother) the family home and business were
confiscated and they were forced to move to Nyireghaza. I was born in Nyireghaza
in 1944. My mother's maternal grandparents (Wertheimer) lived in
Nyirbator or Nyirbogat. The Petrover side of the family was originally >from Rachov
(again . . . I think). I haven't been able to find ANYTHING relating to her
immediate family in either Hajdusamson or Nyireghaza. The Red Cross
has been able to track some information about the death of some of the
family but I haven't found any birth or marriage records anywhere. I've
tried the LDS Library and everything online that I could think of. Any other
ideas?
Erika Schwartz
Santa Clarita, CA
Have you tried the Orszagos Leveltar (National Archives) of Hungary? At
their Becsi-ut film division you will more than likely find all the
info you need. I believe you can locate the OL on the internet and
order county lists of Jews for given years.

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@...