To research this immigration matter, I would start looking in the "Might's
annual Directory.

Personally I was very successful in tracing four families all over Toronto
in 1900-1925.
I used the collection in Ottawa at the Archives, but I am sure there is a
set in Toronto. Start with the Ref Lib on Yonge Street. In Ottawa one can
still use the original print product , even though the earliest years are
very frail. Much easier to use than microfilm, obviously.

A piece of advice. I tried to landmark the 'obvious year' of first entry.
I was trying to save some time.
I ended up cycling back and forth: 1910, 1905, 1915, 1911, etc. My
research log looks very disorganized accordingly.

Just start with a reasonable starting year, say 19222 , in your case ;
then proceed chronologically. And another thought, when you see the family
living with someone, start tracing that crew too. They are probably
landschaftmen who provided accommodation. You can also use the street index
to follow the business endeavours and neighbours. (Please note Canadian
spelling used herein.)

Then later, start thinking about finding Naturalization certificates and
files (usually just the male head of household). No , I nixe this idea.
They said they were British subjects >from S.A.; therefore, they would be
considered citizens of Canada - same King, etc.

Barry Spinner
researching Spinner in Ontario and BetterSpinner in Galicia

Can someone tell me how long it takes after a person passes away for their name
to appear on the SSDI?

Thanks
Roni Krinsky
Queens, NY

My email address is:
RoniKrinsky@...

thanks

To research this immigration matter, I would start looking in the "Might's
annual Directory.

Personally I was very successful in tracing four families all over Toronto
in 1900-1925.
I used the collection in Ottawa at the Archives, but I am sure there is a
set in Toronto. Start with the Ref Lib on Yonge Street. In Ottawa one can
still use the original print product , even though the earliest years are
very frail. Much easier to use than microfilm, obviously.

A piece of advice. I tried to landmark the 'obvious year' of first entry.
I was trying to save some time.
I ended up cycling back and forth: 1910, 1905, 1915, 1911, etc. My
research log looks very disorganized accordingly.

Just start with a reasonable starting year, say 19222 , in your case ;
then proceed chronologically. And another thought, when you see the family
living with someone, start tracing that crew too. They are probably
landschaftmen who provided accommodation. You can also use the street index
to follow the business endeavours and neighbours. (Please note Canadian
spelling used herein.)

Then later, start thinking about finding Naturalization certificates and
files (usually just the male head of household). No , I nixe this idea.
They said they were British subjects >from S.A.; therefore, they would be
considered citizens of Canada - same King, etc.

Barry Spinner
researching Spinner in Ontario and BetterSpinner in Galicia

Can someone tell me how long it takes after a person passes away for their name
to appear on the SSDI?

Thanks
Roni Krinsky
Queens, NY

My email address is:
RoniKrinsky@...

thanks

In a message dated 3/19/2004 1:21:04 AM EST, Rose Feldman,
rosef@... writes:

Between JRI-Poland ordering system and the microfilms at the Museum of
the Diaspora we will start filling out that limb of the tree all the
way back to about 1800 in Warsaw. Unbelieveable, and I will thank
Stanley and staff personally at the conference this July in Jerusalem.

Thanks for your kind post, Rose. Just one clarification:

There is no staff. Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is an all
**volunteer** organization. And, if I may say so, I think we
have the some of the very best volunteers in the world of Jewish
genealogy.

That being said, I would like to quote >from a footer in one of our
standard messages:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is a prime example of the
power of cooperative effort by volunteers and contributors
with a common interest.
Success to date is due to the boundless energy, dedication
and generosity of genealogists around the world.

Stanley Diamond
Executive Director

In a message dated 3/19/2004 1:21:04 AM EST, Rose Feldman,
rosef@... writes:

Between JRI-Poland ordering system and the microfilms at the Museum of
the Diaspora we will start filling out that limb of the tree all the
way back to about 1800 in Warsaw. Unbelieveable, and I will thank
Stanley and staff personally at the conference this July in Jerusalem.

Thanks for your kind post, Rose. Just one clarification:

There is no staff. Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is an all
**volunteer** organization. And, if I may say so, I think we
have the some of the very best volunteers in the world of Jewish
genealogy.

That being said, I would like to quote >from a footer in one of our
standard messages:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is a prime example of the
power of cooperative effort by volunteers and contributors
with a common interest.
Success to date is due to the boundless energy, dedication
and generosity of genealogists around the world.

Stanley Diamond
Executive Director

Hi Genners,
Stacy Harris asks about Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel. He was my teacher at
the Jewish Theological Seminary in the early 50's. A "google" search will
tell you that his dates were 1907-1972. He is listed in the Encyclopedia
Judaica. His biography, "Abraham Joshua Heschel, Prophetic Witness" by
Kaplan and Dresner shows a tree of his descent >from Abraham Joshua Heschel,
Rebbe of Apt (1748-1825).
I would also like to mention another Internet resource, the Jewish
Encyclopedia at www.jewishencyclopedia.org. This site is down for repairs
at the time of this posting, but is an excellent resource for many figures
in Jewish history. Unfortunately, they do not have a listing for the
earlier Rebbe Heschel, and were published in the early 1900's before the
more recent Rabbi Heschel became known. However, I have turned to them, and
found coverage of many topics of interest to genners.
Haviva Langenauer, Ph.D.
Palm Beach, Florida

Hi Genners,
Stacy Harris asks about Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel. He was my teacher at
the Jewish Theological Seminary in the early 50's. A "google" search will
tell you that his dates were 1907-1972. He is listed in the Encyclopedia
Judaica. His biography, "Abraham Joshua Heschel, Prophetic Witness" by
Kaplan and Dresner shows a tree of his descent >from Abraham Joshua Heschel,
Rebbe of Apt (1748-1825).
I would also like to mention another Internet resource, the Jewish
Encyclopedia at www.jewishencyclopedia.org. This site is down for repairs
at the time of this posting, but is an excellent resource for many figures
in Jewish history. Unfortunately, they do not have a listing for the
earlier Rebbe Heschel, and were published in the early 1900's before the
more recent Rabbi Heschel became known. However, I have turned to them, and
found coverage of many topics of interest to genners.
Haviva Langenauer, Ph.D.
Palm Beach, Florida

Polish is a Slavic language like Russian, it is just written in Latin rather
than Cyrillic letters. So Moskowicz would be a patronymic-and the records
usually have a patronymic identifying the bride, groom, witnesses, etc. The
record probably names the parents of the bride and groom (if it is
Napoleonic format), and, if so, that should show that his father was Moses.

Sally

"In Russia
the children would be named a name then a pathrinomic that would end in a
"wicz" for a male or "owna" for a female, but not in Poland."

ldashman@... (Lisa Dashman) writes:

I am looking for the 1937 yearbook for Erasmus Hall High School (Brooklyn, NY).
If you have one or know where I could locate/purchase one, please reply
privately.

I am posting my answer to the list as well, because others may
not be aware that many schools have websites with links to alumni
pages. Erasmus Hall High School alumni association is here -
http://www.erasmushall.org/

There are people listed there >from the class of 1937 who may
remember the person you are looking for. They have email addresses
also.

Lisa
llepore@...

ldashman@... (Lisa Dashman) writes:

I am looking for the 1937 yearbook for Erasmus Hall High School (Brooklyn, NY).
If you have one or know where I could locate/purchase one, please reply
privately.

I am posting my answer to the list as well, because others may
not be aware that many schools have websites with links to alumni
pages. Erasmus Hall High School alumni association is here -
http://www.erasmushall.org/

There are people listed there >from the class of 1937 who may
remember the person you are looking for. They have email addresses
also.

Lisa
llepore@...

Polish is a Slavic language like Russian, it is just written in Latin rather
than Cyrillic letters. So Moskowicz would be a patronymic-and the records
usually have a patronymic identifying the bride, groom, witnesses, etc. The
record probably names the parents of the bride and groom (if it is
Napoleonic format), and, if so, that should show that his father was Moses.

Sally

"In Russia
the children would be named a name then a pathrinomic that would end in a
"wicz" for a male or "owna" for a female, but not in Poland."

On Sunday, March 28,, 2004 at 2 pm, the Jewish
Genealogical Society of New York will present Rabbi
Michael Schudrich, a New York rabbi serving in Warsaw
and Lodz, Poland, who is the Halachic Coordinator for
the Polish Jewish Cemeteries Restoration Project
(PJCRP). Rabbi Schudrich will discuss the restoration
projects and will introduce the video “Return to
Ozarow – Mending a Broken Link.” The Polish Jewish
Cemeteries Restoration Project aims to restore as many
as possible of Poland’s devastated Jewish cemeteries;
document the restoration process through words,
pictures and video; translate the inscriptions on all
the monuments; and put all the material on the
Internet.” The video follows PJCRP founder Norman
Weinberg and his involvement in the restoration of the
cemetery in his ancestral town of Ozarow. His success
on that project led to the founding of PJCRP to do the
same in other Polish cities and towns.

The meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of New
York takes place at the Center for Jewish History
located at 15 West 16th Street between 5th and 6th
Avenues. The Center’s Genealogy Institute will be
open >from 12:30 to 2:00 on March 28th for networking
with other researchers and access to resource
materials and computers.

For more information contact the Jewish Genealogical
Society at info@... or call 212-294-8326.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
New York, NY
JGSNY Program Vice President

On Sunday, March 28,, 2004 at 2 pm, the Jewish
Genealogical Society of New York will present Rabbi
Michael Schudrich, a New York rabbi serving in Warsaw
and Lodz, Poland, who is the Halachic Coordinator for
the Polish Jewish Cemeteries Restoration Project
(PJCRP). Rabbi Schudrich will discuss the restoration
projects and will introduce the video “Return to
Ozarow – Mending a Broken Link.” The Polish Jewish
Cemeteries Restoration Project aims to restore as many
as possible of Poland’s devastated Jewish cemeteries;
document the restoration process through words,
pictures and video; translate the inscriptions on all
the monuments; and put all the material on the
Internet.” The video follows PJCRP founder Norman
Weinberg and his involvement in the restoration of the
cemetery in his ancestral town of Ozarow. His success
on that project led to the founding of PJCRP to do the
same in other Polish cities and towns.

The meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of New
York takes place at the Center for Jewish History
located at 15 West 16th Street between 5th and 6th
Avenues. The Center’s Genealogy Institute will be
open >from 12:30 to 2:00 on March 28th for networking
with other researchers and access to resource
materials and computers.

For more information contact the Jewish Genealogical
Society at info@... or call 212-294-8326.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
New York, NY
JGSNY Program Vice President

I am searching for family and possible Holocaust survivors.

My grandfather, Joel Meir ADLER, went >from Raseiniai in Lithuania to
Johannesburg, South Africa, in the early 1900s. One sister went to
Johannesburg, another to Wisconsin, USA, and a brother to Argentina. We know
of at least two brothers who remained behind. I believe these brothers and
their families were young enough to have been involved in the Holocaust:
either they perished or survived. I wrote to Yad Vashem, who yesterday sent
me six witness reports of deaths of ADLER family members >from Raseiniai and
Kelme, a Shtetl about twenty kms. >from Rasein. One of the witnesses was Leah
FINE of Rechov Talpiot 36 [I presume Jersusalem], a daughter and sister of
four of these ADLERs, and another was Etta/Ethel RUBIN of Amidar 86/1,
Bat-Yam, a niece of two victims. These documents were signed in 1957, which
means the signees are today between 70 and 85 years old, if still alive.

Does anyone know of the witnesses who signed the testimonies, or of any
others of the ADLER family who were killed or survived the Shoah, >from the
Raseiniai area? One of the ADLER sisters married a cousin BERELOWITZ, one of
my great-grandfather's brothers apparently also came to the USA, and was the
grandfather of Larry ADLER the reknowned musician. If any of these
references ring a bell, please reply to me direct.

Rev. DAVID ADLER CROOK
APARTMENT #1213 NORTH
4800 SOUTH CHICAGO BEACH DRIVE
CHICAGO, IL60615, USA.
TELEPHONE: [773] 924-6424
E-MAIL: CROOKFAMILY@...

I am searching for family and possible Holocaust survivors.

My grandfather, Joel Meir ADLER, went >from Raseiniai in Lithuania to
Johannesburg, South Africa, in the early 1900s. One sister went to
Johannesburg, another to Wisconsin, USA, and a brother to Argentina. We know
of at least two brothers who remained behind. I believe these brothers and
their families were young enough to have been involved in the Holocaust:
either they perished or survived. I wrote to Yad Vashem, who yesterday sent
me six witness reports of deaths of ADLER family members >from Raseiniai and
Kelme, a Shtetl about twenty kms. >from Rasein. One of the witnesses was Leah
FINE of Rechov Talpiot 36 [I presume Jersusalem], a daughter and sister of
four of these ADLERs, and another was Etta/Ethel RUBIN of Amidar 86/1,
Bat-Yam, a niece of two victims. These documents were signed in 1957, which
means the signees are today between 70 and 85 years old, if still alive.

Does anyone know of the witnesses who signed the testimonies, or of any
others of the ADLER family who were killed or survived the Shoah, >from the
Raseiniai area? One of the ADLER sisters married a cousin BERELOWITZ, one of
my great-grandfather's brothers apparently also came to the USA, and was the
grandfather of Larry ADLER the reknowned musician. If any of these
references ring a bell, please reply to me direct.

Rev. DAVID ADLER CROOK
APARTMENT #1213 NORTH
4800 SOUTH CHICAGO BEACH DRIVE
CHICAGO, IL60615, USA.
TELEPHONE: [773] 924-6424
E-MAIL: CROOKFAMILY@...

I am looking for any information concerning my fnd father , mother
side, information called Mickale WINICKY or WINICZKY, which was borned
in the Lubny area.
Thanks in advance

G. Lazar

glazar@...

To supplement the helpful information about Kupel which Doug Cohen supplied
when he responded to Neil Melman's inquiry of March, 18, 2004, I found the
following:

At:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Volhynia/towns/populations.htm

I noted that in 1890s the Kupel's Jewish population was 2,727, which was 63%
of the town's total population of 4,333.

Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" says that in 1912 Kupel's rabbi
was Yoel Yehuda Glazer.

Vol.1 of David Chapin and Ben Weinstock, "The Road >from Letichev" adds that
Glazer, who was Kupel's "key" rabbi, had served as rabbi of Letichev before hia
service at Kupel. In a chapter on folklore, the same book also quotes an
anecdote by someone who was six years old when she and her family made a visit to
Kupel. She said most of Kupel's were Zinkover chassidim, and, >from a boulder
she'd climbed on, she watched Rebbe Pinkhasel, son of Khaimel of Zinkov, leave
the village with his entourage, in a slowly moving carriage pulled by four
horses. The shtetl's people followed the carriage, singing and dancing as they
walked.

Kupel was the birthplace of poet and literary scholar Chaim Bader, whose
family were furriers and whose parents were "barely literate."
See:http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.12.12/news17.bader.html

from the Internet I downloaded a Volhynia Gubernia map adapted >from one made

in 1899. It shows Kupel's location, northeast of Volochisk, and near the
border of the Podolia Gubernia.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
BELKOWSKY, BIELKOWSKY,BILKOWSKY Odessa,St. Petersburg, Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; FRASCH, Kiev;SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;
LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol,
Podwolochisk, Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.