Thanks to all those who replied and enlightened my world:)
have a wonderful Purim.
daphna

from when I put my family tree in the Diaspora Museum Data Bank here in

Israel, they told me that they had Sigmund Freud on two different family
trees. You can try there.

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004

Dear Genners,

Recently we obtained new material >from the Lithuanian Archives.
Abraham Isaac SHERMAN b about 1885 to Elias Todres Sherman
NovoAlexandrovsk or thereabout.

He married Feige GRINBERG of Mikaliskis
Children Mariasha, Zlata,Ilya Leib and Chaim

Can anyone claim these children born 1901 to 1912 as their grandparents?
There may have been a grandchild Hannah and a name unknown grandson . I am
doubtful if they survived the Holocaust, but perhaps someone got out alive.

Thank you
Ros Romem
Jerusalem

from when I put my family tree in the Diaspora Museum Data Bank here in

Israel, they told me that they had Sigmund Freud on two different family
trees. You can try there.

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004

Dear Genners,

Recently we obtained new material >from the Lithuanian Archives.
Abraham Isaac SHERMAN b about 1885 to Elias Todres Sherman
NovoAlexandrovsk or thereabout.

He married Feige GRINBERG of Mikaliskis
Children Mariasha, Zlata,Ilya Leib and Chaim

Can anyone claim these children born 1901 to 1912 as their grandparents?
There may have been a grandchild Hannah and a name unknown grandson . I am
doubtful if they survived the Holocaust, but perhaps someone got out alive.

Thank you
Ros Romem
Jerusalem

Thanks to all those who replied and enlightened my world:)
have a wonderful Purim.
daphna

Norman,

At 17:41 27-01-2003, Norman Poser wrote:

I would be very grateful for any information about the Salomon family.

Marcus Wolff Salomon (my great-grandfather), was born in Altona (Holstein) on
April 12, 1828. He may have gone to live and work in Kiel, but he probably moved
to Copenhagen between 1853 and 1858.
...snip...

It's been a long time since we last corresponded, and I seem to always be one step behind you <G>
As promised I tried to find someone in Norway to do research for you - and when I succeeded, the researcher told me that he had already been in contact with you and sent information to you.

Anyway, I haven't forgotten to watch out for news for you when working on the genealogy project ("The Family Tree of the Danish Jews") for the Danish Jewish Museum - but there is a lot of SALOMON/SALOMONSEN families!

However, today (at long last!!!) I have some news for you:

I found in the vital records the following:

Levy Marcus SALOMON
born 8 Sep 1856
circumcision 15 Sep 1856
Parents:
"Handelsmand" (~tradesman) Marcus Wulff SALOMON and Emma née LEVY.
Address: Købmagergade 197, Copenhagen

Siegmund SALOMON
born 2 Jul 1858
circumcision 9 Jul 1858
Parents:
"Fabrikant" (~ factory owner, manufacturer) Marcus Wolff SALOMON and Emma née LEVIN 33 years
old (i.e. she must bave been born ca. 1825).

(and the one you already know about):
Simon Marcus SALOMON
born 8 Dec 1860
circumcision 15 Dec 1860
Parents:
"Handelsmand" (~tradesman) Marcus SALOMON and Emma née LEVY (35 years old)
Address: Graabroedre Torv 3, Copenhagen

As for Betty:
...I have the same question about Marcus's fourth child and only daughter, Betty
Cecilia, who was born in Copenhagen on October 2, 1866. I don't believe she
married. She was living in Norway, probably in Christiania (Oslo), when she died
in 1894. ...

I can't find her birth under 2 Oct 1866 in Copenhagen! ???
There is a
Betty SALOMON
born 26 Aug 1865
Parents:
Salomon Levy SALOMON and wife Rikke née HORWITZ (27 years old)

No one of the family died between 1856 and 1871 in Copenhagen.

So Marcus Wolff Salomon must have moved to Copenhagen before 1856 when his son Levy Marcus SALOMON) was born.

That is all for now - but I will, of course, return if/when I find more!

All my best regards

---------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & webmaster of JewishGen's
SCANDINAVIA SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia
http://home.worldonline.dk/~epaikin/
mailto:elsebeth@...
---------------------------------------

Norman,

At 17:41 27-01-2003, Norman Poser wrote:

I would be very grateful for any information about the Salomon family.

Marcus Wolff Salomon (my great-grandfather), was born in Altona (Holstein) on
April 12, 1828. He may have gone to live and work in Kiel, but he probably moved
to Copenhagen between 1853 and 1858.
...snip...

It's been a long time since we last corresponded, and I seem to always be one step behind you <G>
As promised I tried to find someone in Norway to do research for you - and when I succeeded, the researcher told me that he had already been in contact with you and sent information to you.

Anyway, I haven't forgotten to watch out for news for you when working on the genealogy project ("The Family Tree of the Danish Jews") for the Danish Jewish Museum - but there is a lot of SALOMON/SALOMONSEN families!

However, today (at long last!!!) I have some news for you:

I found in the vital records the following:

Levy Marcus SALOMON
born 8 Sep 1856
circumcision 15 Sep 1856
Parents:
"Handelsmand" (~tradesman) Marcus Wulff SALOMON and Emma née LEVY.
Address: Købmagergade 197, Copenhagen

Siegmund SALOMON
born 2 Jul 1858
circumcision 9 Jul 1858
Parents:
"Fabrikant" (~ factory owner, manufacturer) Marcus Wolff SALOMON and Emma née LEVIN 33 years
old (i.e. she must bave been born ca. 1825).

(and the one you already know about):
Simon Marcus SALOMON
born 8 Dec 1860
circumcision 15 Dec 1860
Parents:
"Handelsmand" (~tradesman) Marcus SALOMON and Emma née LEVY (35 years old)
Address: Graabroedre Torv 3, Copenhagen

As for Betty:
...I have the same question about Marcus's fourth child and only daughter, Betty
Cecilia, who was born in Copenhagen on October 2, 1866. I don't believe she
married. She was living in Norway, probably in Christiania (Oslo), when she died
in 1894. ...

I can't find her birth under 2 Oct 1866 in Copenhagen! ???
There is a
Betty SALOMON
born 26 Aug 1865
Parents:
Salomon Levy SALOMON and wife Rikke née HORWITZ (27 years old)

No one of the family died between 1856 and 1871 in Copenhagen.

So Marcus Wolff Salomon must have moved to Copenhagen before 1856 when his son Levy Marcus SALOMON) was born.

That is all for now - but I will, of course, return if/when I find more!

All my best regards

---------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & webmaster of JewishGen's
SCANDINAVIA SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia
http://home.worldonline.dk/~epaikin/
mailto:elsebeth@...
---------------------------------------

Raanan, you might try the Litvak SIG!

Martha
--
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004

Raanan, you might try the Litvak SIG!

Martha
--
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004

Alice Kaderlan asked about the best sources of information on various
towns in Moldova and Romania. I would like to suggest that she read
the yizkor book translations at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html and the ShtetLinks
pages at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/.

She should also do a general search on the JewishGen website using
the town names. There might be relevant information in assorted
databases.

Jooyce Field
jfield@...

Alice Kaderlan asked about the best sources of information on various
towns in Moldova and Romania. I would like to suggest that she read
the yizkor book translations at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html and the ShtetLinks
pages at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/.

She should also do a general search on the JewishGen website using
the town names. There might be relevant information in assorted
databases.

Jooyce Field
jfield@...

HAIFA 03MAR04

I would like to add my own excellent experience with the
Romanian Military Archives.

On the 5th November 1998 I sent an E-mail(Col. Osca salex@...)
to the Romanian Military Archives enquiring about the possibility
to obtain information on the Jews >from Mihaileni that served in
the Romanian Army during the First World War. I also
asked for the availability of a 1886 map of the Mihaileni region
(I knew of its existence >from my work at the British Library).
On the 13th of January 1999, they sent me a xerox
copy of the map via the Romanian military attache in Israel.
They also suggested two possible courses of action. One to come in
person to do the search I am interested in,
the other to pay one of their employees to do the work for me.
The estimated necessary time was 6 days, and the requested price
was 417000 lei (which, as far as I remember, at the time was
something like $36).

I opted for the second course of action and at the beginning of November
1999, received 18 typed pages with 155 names (Jews and non Jews),
including many details like names of the parents of the soldiers,
units where they served, whether wounded or fallen in battle,etc.

The Military Attache in Israel, Col. Niculescu, was very helpful in
actually transferring the list.

This was a long time ago, but apparently they have a lot of
well organized information and are willing to share it. It is worth
trying to use this source and let others know how it
works out.

Artur Hecht,
Haifa
researching
HECHT >from Mihaileni, Botosani, Buzau
STEINER >from Mihaileni, Botosani

HAIFA 03MAR04

I would like to add my own excellent experience with the
Romanian Military Archives.

On the 5th November 1998 I sent an E-mail(Col. Osca salex@...)
to the Romanian Military Archives enquiring about the possibility
to obtain information on the Jews >from Mihaileni that served in
the Romanian Army during the First World War. I also
asked for the availability of a 1886 map of the Mihaileni region
(I knew of its existence >from my work at the British Library).
On the 13th of January 1999, they sent me a xerox
copy of the map via the Romanian military attache in Israel.
They also suggested two possible courses of action. One to come in
person to do the search I am interested in,
the other to pay one of their employees to do the work for me.
The estimated necessary time was 6 days, and the requested price
was 417000 lei (which, as far as I remember, at the time was
something like $36).

I opted for the second course of action and at the beginning of November
1999, received 18 typed pages with 155 names (Jews and non Jews),
including many details like names of the parents of the soldiers,
units where they served, whether wounded or fallen in battle,etc.

The Military Attache in Israel, Col. Niculescu, was very helpful in
actually transferring the list.

This was a long time ago, but apparently they have a lot of
well organized information and are willing to share it. It is worth
trying to use this source and let others know how it
works out.

Artur Hecht,
Haifa
researching
HECHT >from Mihaileni, Botosani, Buzau
STEINER >from Mihaileni, Botosani

There are a number of Jewish Calendar converters. I used the one at
JewishGen http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/enfield/207/. That date is
10 Nisan 5608. However, for the GS Burials, the English date will
suffice - and yes, they have been microfilmed by the LDS.
Jocelyn Keene
Pasadena, California

There are a number of Jewish Calendar converters. I used the one at
JewishGen http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/enfield/207/. That date is
10 Nisan 5608. However, for the GS Burials, the English date will
suffice - and yes, they have been microfilmed by the LDS.
Jocelyn Keene
Pasadena, California

dear friends, I am happily in possession of some names at last. thanks
to many helpful friends and a lot of slogging away over a hot
computer.... we have gone >from 3 generations known to 6 generations
including my grandson. I continue to research Old Newark, NJ in the
1890s-1920s.

NUTA FREEMAN OR FROMAN married Rachel Freeman in Lithuania, became
parents to Gussie/Sima/Simie Freeman (my great-grandmother)b Nov 1864.
Gussie married Harris/Gersh/Hersh RABINOWITZ/ROBINOWITSCH in about
1886-1887 in the old country, Jannie/Jennie Rabinowitz b Nov 1886 or
1887.Harris immigrated about 1886-1887, nat 1892. Gussie and Jennie imm
around 1890-1891.Gussie Rabinowitz died June 1903 in childbirth but
death certificate says poison.!! Other children: Ben Rabinowitz b Nov
1893 in Newark, Rose Rabinowitz>BLOOM b 1898-1899. Harris married 1904
to Flora, father of Sarah and Morris, m 1920 to Rachel FELDMAN or FELDMUS.
Benjamin RABINOWITZ married Sadie KAPLAN in Lithuania, Gersch
Rabinowitz b June. 1850-1866( records vary). Name of source village
still unknown.

Grandfather's side: CHAIM KRISTAL married YETTA "SHULPACK" in or near
Warsaw Poland, became parents to Joseph Kristal/CRYSTAL around 1885 and
brother George around 1882, other brothers and sisters. Joseph
Kristal/Crystal married Jeney Rabinowitz around 1911, living on Prince
St in Newark. Joseph immigrated 1907 via Paris, Montreal, Canada, to
Newark. Joseph's Brother George Crystal married in Poland to Rose, about
1899-1900, (Gdalja/George m Ruchel,) she immigrates 1906 with children,
states she is >from GRAWEJO. If these names ring any bells, please
write, or if you feel like doing any research in NJ Archives for
reasonable rates.
Sara Crystal in Oakland

researching RABINOWITZ/ROBINOWITSCH in LITHUANIA
and KRYSZTAL/KRISTAL/CRYSTAL in WARSAW, GRAWEJO, and NEWARK NJ

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dear friends, I am happily in possession of some names at last. thanks
to many helpful friends and a lot of slogging away over a hot
computer.... we have gone >from 3 generations known to 6 generations
including my grandson. I continue to research Old Newark, NJ in the
1890s-1920s.

NUTA FREEMAN OR FROMAN married Rachel Freeman in Lithuania, became
parents to Gussie/Sima/Simie Freeman (my great-grandmother)b Nov 1864.
Gussie married Harris/Gersh/Hersh RABINOWITZ/ROBINOWITSCH in about
1886-1887 in the old country, Jannie/Jennie Rabinowitz b Nov 1886 or
1887.Harris immigrated about 1886-1887, nat 1892. Gussie and Jennie imm
around 1890-1891.Gussie Rabinowitz died June 1903 in childbirth but
death certificate says poison.!! Other children: Ben Rabinowitz b Nov
1893 in Newark, Rose Rabinowitz>BLOOM b 1898-1899. Harris married 1904
to Flora, father of Sarah and Morris, m 1920 to Rachel FELDMAN or FELDMUS.
Benjamin RABINOWITZ married Sadie KAPLAN in Lithuania, Gersch
Rabinowitz b June. 1850-1866( records vary). Name of source village
still unknown.

Grandfather's side: CHAIM KRISTAL married YETTA "SHULPACK" in or near
Warsaw Poland, became parents to Joseph Kristal/CRYSTAL around 1885 and
brother George around 1882, other brothers and sisters. Joseph
Kristal/Crystal married Jeney Rabinowitz around 1911, living on Prince
St in Newark. Joseph immigrated 1907 via Paris, Montreal, Canada, to
Newark. Joseph's Brother George Crystal married in Poland to Rose, about
1899-1900, (Gdalja/George m Ruchel,) she immigrates 1906 with children,
states she is >from GRAWEJO. If these names ring any bells, please
write, or if you feel like doing any research in NJ Archives for
reasonable rates.
Sara Crystal in Oakland

researching RABINOWITZ/ROBINOWITSCH in LITHUANIA
and KRYSZTAL/KRISTAL/CRYSTAL in WARSAW, GRAWEJO, and NEWARK NJ

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

My paternal grandmother was born some where in Lithuania. I believe she
was probably born in the shtel Salok (Salakas) in the Ezhereni-Zarasi
District. I tried to find some records in America before I
left, but to no avail. My grandmother's name was (Chaya Tzipa) Ida Gordon
she a married Eddy Shapiro >from NJ (whose father Thomas/Tanchum came from
somewhere Russia believe Bailystock). Her farther was Hymie Gordon (Chaim
Pertz). He had a sister Henya Raziel who married Shmuel Yosel Weisman.
They had five children. Their daughter Ann married a Nate Kaplan I believe

from Canada. Ann's daughter Heather Hindla married my father first cousin

Herby Mannesse ;they live in Fla.Chaim Pertz also has a brother Sholmo
and Mayer. A sister was left in Europe.


Chaim Pertz married Martha / Masha Rivka also known as Masha Rizel Munitz.
My grandmother had an older brother Murray and younger sister Minnie/Mina.
Chaim Pertz's wife and children left in the 1920's for America.

A relative Stanley Weisman told me the Hebrew poet (Y'log) Yehuda Lieb
Gordon (1831-92) might be realted . I understand threw the Encyclopedia
Judaica the Central Zionist Archives has the original photo. I would
like to that information about him and practically his children's names. IF
IT IS TRUE Y'LOG IS RELATED MY FAMILY COULD BE >from ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF
LITHUANIA.

I have searched and asked people who the grandchildren of Y'Log was. No
one seems to know. Maybe you can help me find them or know of Gordon's that
might possible be part of my family.

Yisroel Yonasan Shapiro

Bayonne, NJ

now studying near Jerusalem

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My paternal grandmother was born some where in Lithuania. I believe she
was probably born in the shtel Salok (Salakas) in the Ezhereni-Zarasi
District. I tried to find some records in America before I
left, but to no avail. My grandmother's name was (Chaya Tzipa) Ida Gordon
she a married Eddy Shapiro >from NJ (whose father Thomas/Tanchum came from
somewhere Russia believe Bailystock). Her farther was Hymie Gordon (Chaim
Pertz). He had a sister Henya Raziel who married Shmuel Yosel Weisman.
They had five children. Their daughter Ann married a Nate Kaplan I believe

from Canada. Ann's daughter Heather Hindla married my father first cousin

Herby Mannesse ;they live in Fla.Chaim Pertz also has a brother Sholmo
and Mayer. A sister was left in Europe.


Chaim Pertz married Martha / Masha Rivka also known as Masha Rizel Munitz.
My grandmother had an older brother Murray and younger sister Minnie/Mina.
Chaim Pertz's wife and children left in the 1920's for America.

A relative Stanley Weisman told me the Hebrew poet (Y'log) Yehuda Lieb
Gordon (1831-92) might be realted . I understand threw the Encyclopedia
Judaica the Central Zionist Archives has the original photo. I would
like to that information about him and practically his children's names. IF
IT IS TRUE Y'LOG IS RELATED MY FAMILY COULD BE >from ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF
LITHUANIA.

I have searched and asked people who the grandchildren of Y'Log was. No
one seems to know. Maybe you can help me find them or know of Gordon's that
might possible be part of my family.

Yisroel Yonasan Shapiro

Bayonne, NJ

now studying near Jerusalem

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.