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Urmston Cemetery in Manchester, England
#unitedkingdom
Are any UK researchers planning a trip to Urmston Cemetery, south of Manchester, please?
I have discovered my thrice great uncle's grave there and am hoping someone might be able to take some close-up photos of the stone to see what Hebrew clues remain. An image was found online, but the Hebrew is barely legible. The link is: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/233563521/morris-cohen Please private message me, if you can help in any way. Thank you. -- Daniel GLEEK in London daniel@... Searching for: GLEEK/GLICK (Beisagola, Lithuania), ISOWITSKY/KUPCHIK (Dotchener, Poltava & Vorontzowka), GLIKMAN/GLUCKMAN, WEITZENSANG & LIDRAL/LEDDA (Warsaw,Poland), MARCUS (Varniai, Lithuania) etc.
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Re: Name equivalent?
#names
Odeda Zlotnick
Hinda? Hodl?
-- Odeda Zlotnick Jerusalem, Israel.
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Re: Question about “17th century” photographs
#photographs
Thank you, Ava and all who responded publicly or privately. Several people made the point that some realistic paintings can be confused for photos. It’ a good reminder in general. In the specific cases I’m talking about however, the photos show people with typical early 20th century clothes and hairstyles, and the lighting is consistent with photography. It’s been made clear to me that the person who originally posted these pictures only intended them to be representative of how these ancestors may have looked. I’ve now seen a video of him saying as much. That answers my question, so I’m inclined to drop the subject. best,
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Re: Translation of Arye-Leyb
#names
Charles Hollander
Arye means “lion” in Hebrew; Leon means “lion” in Yiddish.
Best, Charles Hollander
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Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het
#translation
ramot418@...
I respectfully disagree with your reading of the gravestone.
I think it IS a 'resh'(ר) and not a 'khet'(ח). The added 'leg' to the 'resh' is, IMHO, just a streak on the gravestone or on the photograph. Look at the other 'khets' on the gravestone. The only way to be sure is to see and 'braille' the gravestone itself. ------------------------------------------ Steve Goldberg Jerusalem, Israel Researching: Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania
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Viewmate Translation Requests Hebrew and Yiddish
#translation
#yiddish
srg100@...
I've posted two one page letters, one in Hebrew and one in Yiddish, for which I would like word for word translations.
The second was written on the back of the first. The first is from my G Grandfather to his first cousin. I don't know who the second is to or from. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99578 https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99579 Please respond via the forms provided on the ViewMate image page. Many thanks. -- Shoshanah Gateshead, UK
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Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het
#translation
fredelfruhman
Some thoughts on the previous responses:
1) When "Chaver" is used in front of a person's name to indicate that he had received the honor bestowed in German Jewish communities upon men who had served the religious community for many years, it is usually given as "heChaver", "THE Chaver". In addition, and I know that I am generalizing here, the names appear to me to be more Eastern European, rather than German. 2) Chacham is, as indicated, a title used in Mizrachi communities. Again, the names here do not appear to be Mizrachi/Sephardic. 3) Of the comments made, the one that I would lean towards is plain "Chaver", in its translation as a type of "comrade" (Labor/Zionist movement?). -- Fredel Fruhman Brooklyn, New York, USA
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Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het
#translation
Lee,
I concur with all of the above and also when I was just as stumped, I appreciated the same explanation in the same paper. What I also have learned, is that a chaver had sufficient knowledge that in the event a rabbi could not be consulted on a specific issue, a chaver could also rend an opinion. So, Yes, they were esteemed in a community. Hope that helps. -- Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLÜCKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava); GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.
GOLDBERG, TARNOWSKI in Chmielnik and KHANISHKEVITCH in Kielce, Poland
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Re: Tracking down death records in the US
#usa
Renee Steinig
Responding to Deborah Barany's inquiry about her great-aunt's possible
death at the Pilgrim State Psychiatric Hospital on Long Island, Sandra Parker <skparker@...> wrote: <<If you will Google Central Islip Pschiatric Hospital Cemetery, you will find articles about the Jewish Cemetery being the only thing left at this site....>> Central Islip and Pilgrim State hospitals were two different institutions. Central Islip, as its name indicates, was located in Central Islip, and Pilgrim is in Brentwood. Both locations -- about 6 miles apart -- are within the larger Town of Islip, which can lead to some confusion. Another large New York State psychiatric hospital on Long Island was located in Kings Park. Renee Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills (Long Island) NY genmaven@...
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Name equivalent?
#names
Steven Usdansky
Please don't be too hard on me. I'm well aware that there's no standard Americanization of a Hebrew/Yiddish name. However... in my father's family, the Americanizations seem to follow "convention." Moshe became Morris; Rifka became Rebecca, Chaim became Hyman, Hersh became Harry, Mordechai became Max, etc.... The Americanized name I'm looking to looking to conventionally convert back to Hebrew/Yiddish is Helen. By process of elimination, I don't believe the original was either Chane or Chaje, as Helen had living sisters by those names when she was born. For what it's worth, Chane became Anna, and Chaje became Ida.
-- Steven Usdansky usdanskys@... USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik SIGLER: "Minsk"
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Viewmate request - transcription of a few words on a 1917 German death record
#translation
David Birnbaum
I'm looking for a correct transcription of a few words on my great grandfather's death record from Frankfurt am Main, Germany in 1917. The full document is posted at https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99592 and the specific words within the document that I'm having trouble with at https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99594 and https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99593 . Any help would be appreciated! David BIRNBAUM, Rehovot, Israel Researching DRESNER, SCHARFSPITZ, BIRNBAUM, RAWER, LEWITTES, FEILER, TISSER, INTRATER CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email transmission, and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it, may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading them or saving them to disk. Email communications may be monitored by KLA as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For more information, read our Privacy Policy at www.kla.com/privacy-policy. Thank you.
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Re: Neurodiversity and Genealogy
#general
Karen Hirsch
Yes. I have learned that people in several generations of both my husband's and my families had Tourette's or tics, and from anecdotes and descriptions, a few folks may have been autistic as well (although that term would not have been used at the time). This was of interest, as there are several individuals in my and my child's generation that are neurodivergent / neurodiverse.
Karen Hirsch Sacramento, California, USA Researching: HIRSCH (Ohio) SCHWARTZ (Ohio) ADLER (Ohio) LAZARUS (Ohio) FISCHER (New York/Ohio) LOWENTHAL (Pennsylvania/Ohio) BERGER (Ohio) BERG (Ohio) EINSTEIN (New York/Pennsylvania/Ohio)
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Reminder: PBS Three Part Documentary on Holocaust to Air September 18-20, 2022
#announcements
#holocaust
Jan Meisels Allen
The U.S. and the Holocaust will premiere on PBS September 18, 2022. Check with your local cable provider for the station. The U.S. and The Holocaust, a new three-part , six-hour documentary directed and produced by Ken Burns, Lynn Novick and Sarah Botstein, explores America’s response to one of the greatest humanitarian crises in history. Americans consider themselves a “nation of immigrants,” but as the catastrophe of the Holocaust unfolded in Europe, the United States proved unwilling to open its doors to more than a fraction of the hundreds of thousands of desperate people seeking refuge. Through riveting firsthand testimony of witnesses and survivors who as children endured persecution, violence and flight as their families tried to escape Hitler, this series delves deeply into the tragic human consequences of public indifference, bureaucratic red tape and restrictive quota laws in America. The series will air September 18, 19 and 20, at 8:00-10:00 p.m. eastern/pacific 7:00-9:00 PM Central (check local listings) on PBS, https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/us-and-the-holocaust/
To read the release see: https://www.pbs.org/about/about-pbs/blogs/news/the-us-and-the-holocaust-to-premiere-september-18-2022-on-pbs/
I believe this is running in North America. I do not know if it will show elsewhere.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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LitvakSIG Trakai District BOF recording
#lithuania
amy wachs
LitvakSIG's Trakai District Research Group held a virtual Birds of a Feather (BOF) program on August 14, 2022. The presentation provided background on Lithuania, Trakai District, and LitvakSIG, and offered guidance for research using LitvakSIG's All Lithuania Database and other features of its website. A recording of the program has been made available on LitvakSIG's website for 30 days, and can be accessed at https://www.litvaksig.org/. Qualified contributors to the Trakai District Research Group will have continued access to the session recording.
Amy Wachs
Coordinator, LitvakSIG Trakai District Research Group
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Re: Translation of Arye-Leyb
#names
Harry Auerbach
Arye-Leyb means "lion." Arye, in Hebrew; Leyb in Yiddish.
Harry Auerbach
Portland, Oregon
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Re: Tracking down death records in the US
#usa
If you will Google Central Islip Pschiatric Hospital Cemetery, you will find articles about the Jewish Cemetery being the only thing left at this site. The hospital opened in 1931 and closed in 1996 and was alternatively known as Islip Pschiatric Center, and Central Islip State Hospital among other things. I tried to link the articles here, but it failed on a few. The Jewish Telegraphic News agency had a good one. All articles were fairly recent.
https://www.tourolaw.edu/Academics/1238 https://forward.com/fast-forward/479262/numbers-jewish-graves-cemetary-central-islip-psychiatric-hospital-center/ There are 324 recorded burials at Central Islip State Hospital Grounds Cemetery on Find a grave as well -- Sandra Parker Normal Illinois
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Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het
#translation
Thanks for the suggested “chaver” which seems the most likely usage in this scenario. I was able to find a helpful reference to its significance via a Google search:
“Regulations of The Synagogue ‘Altneuschule’ In Prague In Their Historic Context” which I quote: “In 18th Century Germany, there were two degrees of rabbinical ordination: the higher degree, using the title ‘moreinu’—our teacher or guide—given to scholars who devoted all their time to Torah study even after marriage and intended to serve the Rabbinate or as a Yeshiva teacher. The lower degree—chaver—was given to students before marriage who intended to take up a trade other than the Rabbinate.” (Gevaryahu & Sicherman 2010) ===============
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Translation of Arye-Leyb
#names
jdsherod@...
I was looking through the name index of "Journey To A Nineteenth-Century Shtetl" and found the name Arye-Leyb with "only child" in quotations. I tried to find a translation, but it looks like Arye-Leyb means "first born".
My 2X Great Grandfather was Arye-Leyb Predmestsky Ha Levi and he was the first born and not an only child. Anyone have any information about this? Thanks, Jonathan D. Sher Researching the following family surnames: Schereshefsky, Treskunov, Swerdlov, Predmestsky, Sperling, Berlin
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Re: Good and Bad news
#records
binyaminkerman@...
I read it as HASPESH without the first "sh". I wonder if ASPIS is really the same name and you would find records under that name.
Good luck -- Binyamin Kerman Baltimore MD Researching: KERMAN Pinsk SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow SEGALL, SCHWARTZ Piatra Neamt
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Re: Help creating a custom map
#belarus
Moishe Miller
You may want to attend the JGSLI mapping webinar:
Location: Zoom Prerecorded – see registration info below
Topic:
Create maps with your own data on Google Maps. This presentation will teach you how to create a custom map, import location data associated with family history events or source records and then customize the appearance of that data on the map. Custom maps can be used in many ways, including visually conveying family migration patterns, showing the location of regional cemeteries, or which towns hold certain vital records. Alex Calzareth is a genealogist focusing on Southwest Germany, the Czech Republic and Southern Italy who began researching his family roots over twenty years ago. He is a board member for Reclaim The Records and the Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island, serving as JGSLI's webmaster. Alex is also the JewishGen Research Director for Germany. Professionally he is a CPA working in commercial real estate in New York City.
To Register for the Zoom meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZIqf-uqqTIuHdKUaMXuNUQ8oER3YpXzCTDD
After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting. -- Moishe Miller Brooklyn, NY moishe.miller@... JGFF #3391
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