Urmston Cemetery in Manchester, England #unitedkingdom

Daniel Gleek

Are any UK researchers planning a trip to Urmston Cemetery, south of Manchester, please?
I have discovered my thrice great uncle's grave there and am hoping someone might be able to take some close-up photos of the stone to see what Hebrew clues remain.
An image was found online, but the Hebrew is barely legible. The link is:


Please private message me, if you can help in any way. Thank you.
Daniel GLEEK in London
Searching for: GLEEK/GLICK (Beisagola, Lithuania), ISOWITSKY/KUPCHIK (Dotchener, Poltava & Vorontzowka),
GLIKMAN/GLUCKMAN, WEITZENSANG & LIDRAL/LEDDA (Warsaw,Poland), MARCUS (Varniai, Lithuania) etc.

Re: Name equivalent? #names

Odeda Zlotnick

Hinda? Hodl?
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: Question about “17th century” photographs #photographs

Paula J. Freedman

Thank you, Ava and all who responded publicly or privately. Several people made the point that some realistic paintings can be confused for photos. It’ a good reminder in general. In the specific cases I’m talking about however, the photos show people with typical early 20th century clothes and hairstyles, and the lighting is consistent with photography. 

It’s been made clear to me that the person who originally posted these pictures only intended them to be representative of how these ancestors may have looked. I’ve now seen a video of him saying as much. That answers my question, so I’m inclined to drop the subject. 

Thanks again to this community. 

Paula J. Freedman
New York, NY

Re: Translation of Arye-Leyb #names

Charles Hollander

Arye means “lion” in Hebrew; Leon means “lion” in Yiddish.

Best, Charles Hollander

Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het #translation


I respectfully disagree with your reading of the gravestone.
I think it IS a 'resh'(ר) and not a 'khet'(ח).  The added 'leg' to the 'resh' is, IMHO, just a streak on the gravestone or on the photograph.
Look at the other 'khets' on the gravestone.
The only way to be sure is to see and 'braille' the gravestone itself.
Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania

Viewmate Translation Requests Hebrew and Yiddish #translation #yiddish


I've posted two one page letters, one in Hebrew and one in Yiddish, for which I would like word for word translations.
The second was written on the back of the first. The first is from my G Grandfather to his first cousin. I don't know who the second is to or from.
They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Please respond via the forms provided on the ViewMate image page.
Many thanks.
Gateshead, UK

Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het #translation


Some thoughts on the previous responses:

1)  When "Chaver" is used in front of a person's name to indicate that he had received the honor bestowed in German Jewish communities upon men who had served the religious community for many years, it is usually given as "heChaver", "THE Chaver".  In addition, and I know that I am generalizing here, the names appear to me to be more Eastern European, rather than German.

2)  Chacham is, as indicated, a title used in Mizrachi communities.  Again, the names here do not appear to be Mizrachi/Sephardic.

3)  Of the comments made, the one that I would lean towards is plain "Chaver", in its translation as a type of "comrade" (Labor/Zionist movement?).
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het #translation

Madeleine Isenberg


I concur with all of the above and also when I was just as stumped, I appreciated the same explanation in the same paper. 

What I also have learned, is that a chaver had sufficient knowledge that in the event a rabbi could not be consulted on a specific issue, a chaver could also rend an opinion.  So, Yes, they were esteemed in a community.

Hope that helps.
Madeleine Isenberg
Beverly Hills, CA
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLÜCKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.
GOLDBERG, TARNOWSKI in Chmielnik and KHANISHKEVITCH in Kielce, Poland

Re: Tracking down death records in the US #usa

Renee Steinig

Responding to Deborah Barany's inquiry about her great-aunt's possible
death at the Pilgrim State Psychiatric Hospital on Long Island, Sandra
Parker <skparker@...> wrote:

<<If you will Google Central Islip Pschiatric Hospital Cemetery, you
will find articles about the Jewish Cemetery being the only thing left
at this site....>>

Central Islip and Pilgrim State hospitals were two different
institutions. Central Islip, as its name indicates, was located in
Central Islip, and Pilgrim is in Brentwood. Both locations -- about 6
miles apart -- are within the larger Town of Islip, which can lead to
some confusion.

Another large New York State psychiatric hospital on Long Island was
located in Kings Park.


Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island) NY

Name equivalent? #names

Steven Usdansky

Please don't be too hard on me. I'm well aware that there's no standard Americanization of a Hebrew/Yiddish name. However... in my father's family, the Americanizations seem to follow "convention." Moshe became Morris; Rifka became Rebecca, Chaim became Hyman, Hersh became Harry, Mordechai became Max, etc.... The Americanized name I'm looking to looking to conventionally convert back to Hebrew/Yiddish is Helen. By process of elimination, I don't believe the original was either Chane or Chaje, as Helen had living sisters by those names when she was born. For what it's worth, Chane became Anna, and Chaje became Ida.

Steven Usdansky
USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo
SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak
NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik
SIGLER: "Minsk"

Viewmate request - transcription of a few words on a 1917 German death record #translation

David Birnbaum

I'm looking for a correct transcription of a few words on my great grandfather's death record from Frankfurt am Main, Germany in 1917. The full document is posted at and the specific words within the document that I'm having trouble with at and .

Any help would be appreciated!

David BIRNBAUM, Rehovot, Israel


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Re: Neurodiversity and Genealogy #general

Karen Hirsch

Yes. I have learned that people in several generations of both my husband's and my families had Tourette's or tics, and from anecdotes and descriptions, a few folks may have been autistic as well (although that term would not have been used at the time). This was of interest, as there are several individuals in my and my child's generation that are neurodivergent / neurodiverse.

Karen Hirsch
Sacramento, California, USA

ADLER (Ohio)
FISCHER (New York/Ohio)
LOWENTHAL (Pennsylvania/Ohio)
BERG (Ohio)
EINSTEIN (New York/Pennsylvania/Ohio)

Reminder: PBS Three Part Documentary on Holocaust to Air September 18-20, 2022 #announcements #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen


The U.S. and the Holocaust will premiere on PBS September 18, 2022. Check with your local cable provider for the station. The U.S. and The Holocaust, a new three-part , six-hour documentary directed and produced by Ken Burns, Lynn Novick and Sarah Botstein, explores America’s response to one of the greatest humanitarian crises in history. Americans consider themselves a “nation of immigrants,” but as the catastrophe of the Holocaust unfolded in Europe, the United States proved unwilling to open its doors to more than a fraction of the hundreds of thousands of desperate people seeking refuge. Through riveting firsthand testimony of witnesses and survivors who as children endured persecution, violence and flight as their families tried to escape Hitler, this series delves deeply into the tragic human consequences of public indifference, bureaucratic red tape and restrictive quota laws in America. The series will air September 18, 19 and 20, at 8:00-10:00 p.m. eastern/pacific 7:00-9:00 PM Central (check local listings) on PBS,


To read the release see:


I believe this is running in North America. I do not know if it will show elsewhere.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


LitvakSIG Trakai District BOF recording #lithuania

amy wachs

LitvakSIG's Trakai District Research Group held a virtual Birds of a Feather (BOF) program on August 14, 2022.  The presentation provided background on Lithuania, Trakai District, and LitvakSIG, and offered guidance for research using LitvakSIG's All Lithuania Database and other features of its website.   A recording of the program has been made available on LitvakSIG's website for 30 days, and can be accessed at    Qualified contributors to the Trakai District Research Group will have continued access to the session recording.    
Amy Wachs
Coordinator, LitvakSIG Trakai District Research Group

Re: Translation of Arye-Leyb #names

Harry Auerbach

Arye-Leyb means "lion." Arye, in Hebrew; Leyb in Yiddish.
Harry Auerbach
Portland, Oregon

Re: Tracking down death records in the US #usa


If you will Google Central Islip Pschiatric Hospital Cemetery, you will find articles about the Jewish Cemetery being the only thing left at this site.  The hospital opened in 1931 and closed in 1996 and was alternatively known as Islip Pschiatric Center,  and Central Islip State Hospital among other things. I tried to link the articles here, but it failed on a few. The Jewish Telegraphic News agency had a good one.  All articles were fairly recent.

There are 324 recorded burials at Central Islip State Hospital Grounds Cemetery on Find a grave as well
Sandra Parker  Normal Illinois

Re: help with Hebrew gravestone abbreviation – Het #translation

Lee Jaffe

Thanks for the suggested “chaver” which seems the most likely usage in this scenario.  I was able to find a helpful reference to its significance via a Google search:

Regulations of The Synagogue ‘Altneuschule’ In Prague In Their Historic Context” which I quote: 

In 18th Century Germany, there were two degrees of rabbinical ordination: the higher degree, using the title ‘moreinu’—our teacher or guide—given to scholars who devoted all their time to Torah study even after marriage and intended to serve the Rabbinate or as a Yeshiva teacher. The lower degree—chaver—was given to students before marriage who intended to take up a trade other than the Rabbinate.” (Gevaryahu & Sicherman 2010) 

Thank you.  --  Lee Jaffe



Translation of Arye-Leyb #names


I was looking through the name index of "Journey To A Nineteenth-Century Shtetl" and found the name Arye-Leyb with "only child" in quotations. I tried to find a translation, but it looks like Arye-Leyb means "first born".
My 2X Great Grandfather was Arye-Leyb Predmestsky Ha Levi and he was the first born and not an only child.
Anyone have any information about this?
Jonathan D. Sher
Researching the following family surnames:
Schereshefsky, Treskunov, Swerdlov, Predmestsky, Sperling, Berlin

Re: Good and Bad news #records


I read it as HASPESH without the first "sh". I wonder if ASPIS is really the same name and you would find records under that name.
Good luck
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow

Re: Help creating a custom map #belarus

Moishe Miller

You may want to attend the JGSLI mapping webinar: 

When: Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 7:00 PM
Location: Zoom Prerecorded – see registration info below
Mapping Your Family History: How to Create a Customized Google Map
Alex Calzareth
Create maps with your own data on Google Maps. This presentation will teach you how to create a custom map, import location data associated with family history events or source records and then customize the appearance of that data on the map. Custom maps can be used in many ways, including visually conveying family migration patterns, showing the location of regional cemeteries, or which towns hold certain vital records. Alex Calzareth is a genealogist focusing on Southwest Germany, the Czech Republic and Southern Italy who began researching his family roots over twenty years ago. He is a board member for Reclaim The Records and the Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island, serving as JGSLI's webmaster. Alex is also the JewishGen Research Director for Germany. Professionally he is a CPA working in commercial real estate in New York City.

 To Register for the Zoom meeting
After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.  


Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF #3391