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MNJGS will present a virtual program featuring Dan Kestrel speaking on Understanding Your DNA Matches, Aug 14, 2022 12:30 PM Central Time #dna #education #events

casson123@...
 

Understanding Your DNA Matches: Practical Examples

Dan Kestrel has always been intensely curious to learn more about his ancestry. Testing his own DNA as well as the DNA of close relatives on both sides of his family has helped him find long-lost branches of his family tree and reconnect with people in those branches. Although he is not a geneticist, he has successfully helped adoptees find their biological parents through a combination of DNA evidence and good old-fashioned genealogy research. Dan will offer a symphony of practical tips for using Ancestry, 23andMe, My Heritage, FamilyTreeDNA, GEDmatch and other online sources of information to make more sense of many of those unfamiliar names and faces on your DNA match list.

 

The program will take place on-line via Zoom. For more information and to register, go to https://www.mnjgs.org/event. Questions can be emailed to MNJGS at https://www.mnjgs.org/contact. The program is free for members, $5 for non-members. Payments can be made at https://www.mnjgs.org/support-us.
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Liba Casson-Nudell
Minneapolis, MN
Researching: NOTKIN from Minsk, Hlusk, Gomel, Zlynka and CASSON/CHAZANSKI from Nemencine, Vilnius


Family surname engraved in Hebrew on the BACK of a gravestone? #names

Myron Schreck
 

I have a question about having the family surname engraved in Hebrew on the BACK of a gravestone.  My grandfather did that with my grandmother’s Matzeivah in Kolbuszowa in 1930.    Of course, the front was all in Hebrew with my grandmother’s religious name:  Esther Malka bat Moshe Yechiel.   But on the back, grandfather had the name “Schreck” engraved in Hebrew:  “Shin Resh Erin Kof”.  Last night I found a Jewishgen record with a photo of the family surname engraved on the back of the Matzeivah.  It was the “Frost” surname in Hebrew — which is a family I recognized and I had found on the Kolbuszowa 1929 Business Directory.  Has anyone else found surnames engraved ON THE BACK of Matzeivot?   Is this a family custom, or regional custom, or what?   
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MYRON SCHRECK
Moscow, Idaho USA
schreck2020@... 
Researching: Bar, Ukraine; for Brodsky, Perel, Leifer; 
And Kolbuszowa, Poland; for Schreck, Weiss, Blau, Gross, Blau, Franzblau, Jochnowicz, Newman, Kira, Leshkowitz, Leibles


Frieda Moshinsky #russia

marigold98672@...
 

Frieda Atkin was my great great grandmother ( born About 1835). Her maiden name was Moshinsky. She was married to Abraham Josef Atkin. Their  only child was Rachmiel Atkin ( B. about 1857) . Frieda and her husband were probably born and died in Russia. (Perhaps in Bela Tserkva, where their grandchildren were born. Their son, Rachmiel was married to 5 different women over his lifetime. Rachmiel's children were Nathan Ettkin, Sara (Sadie) Edelman, Jennie (Shiendel) Leibowitz my grandmother), and Fanny Schwartz. If any of this sound familiar to you I would love to hear from you.

Thank you. Marilyn Feingold

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Re: Immigration/Emigration records sought #records

Stephen Weinstein
 

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 12:21 PM, <ebachert@...> wrote:
I don't know from what European port they sailed.
Try familysearch.org and ancestry.com databases of departures from European ports that include that time period, such as Web: Bremen, Germany, Passenger Lists Index, 1907-1939 https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/9734/ (which is currently free, unlike most of ancestry.com).
 
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Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA
stephenweinstein@...


The JewishGen Weekly News Nosh, August 7,2022 #JewishGenUpdates

Phil Goldfarb
 



The Weekly News Nosh

JewishGen Weekly E-Newsletter

Phil Goldfarb, Editor

Date: August 7, 2022 

“A Family Without The Knowledge Of Their Past History, Origin And Culture Is Like A Tree Without Roots”

 

A great question last week was: “Will the Weekly News Nosh be archived?” The answer is YES! Since it is posted each week on the JewishGen Discussion Group (JGDG), all messages are archived. In fact, there are currently over 670,500 searchable archived messages going back to 1998. This is a tremendous advantage that one has being a member (free) of the JGDG. If you have not searched the Archives for some personal genealogy information (names, places), you might try doing so. Go to "messages" on your home JGDG page, then "search." For problems, please contact support@.... A reminder that joining the JGDG is separate from being a member of JewishGen.org 

There will not be a News Nosh next week, August 14th  as I will be on vacation.

Enjoy this week’s Nosh!

Regards,

Phil
pgoldfarb@... 

1.     1.    A Virtual Event Next Week From The Museum of Jewish Heritage — A Living Memorial to the Holocaust. Titled:  Wounds into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma. Join Rabbi Dr. Tirzah  Firestone for a talk exploring the journey of culling family and tribal legacies for their positive, life-giving gifts and facing the detrimental patterns we have inherited, in order to dissolve and repair them. Date: Thursday August 11, 2022 Time: 2:00 PM (Eastern Time) – 3:00 PM (check your local time zone). To read more about the program and to register for this free event (with a suggested donation), go to: Wounds into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma (mjhnyc.org)

2.       Yizkor Book Friday! Each Friday, a selection from JewishGen's online library of translated Yizkor books is posted on its Facebook page. There is an archive of these excerpts, which each have an introduction, that can be found hereYizkor Book Spotlight Archive (google.com). Readers can do simple searches, such as for the name of the town, using the "find" function (Ctrl-F).

3.       Searching for Forgotten Photographs of Nazi deportations…The #LastSeenProject. In its first phase, the #LastSeen Project will cover Germany before branching out to also incorporate other territories once occupied by Nazi Germany. A few months into the project, after contacting more than 1,500 German archives, they have already identified pictures from more than 60 locations in Germany — a total of 525 images. While the Nazis did not officially use photography to document the deportations, most of the surviving photographs were taken by individual perpetrators, such as members of the Nazi Party’s SS or Gestapo. Some were also taken by local officials. Police commanders or mayors ordered the pictures taken as a point of pride to document how well the local authorities had succeeded in clearing their town of Jews. This project wants to identify the people in these photographs to not only commemorate the victims, but also to create knowledge about the perpetrators. To read more see: https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stories/3741/quest-for-holocaust-images/ Thank you to Jan Meisels Allen, Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee for sharing this story.

4.       MyHeritage announces Photo Tagger: tag multiple photos instantly. Photo Tagger is a free new feature on the MyHeritage mobile app that lets you easily tag multiple photos of the same individual in one go. Previously, tagging photos meant reviewing and tagging them one by one, which was time consuming. Photo Tagger scans the photos that you’ve uploaded to MyHeritage, and groups together the faces believed to belong to the same individual, so you can review and tag them in one tap. Photo Tagger does an excellent job of identifying faces as they change over time, such as from childhood to adulthood, and even spots changes in individual appearance, such as facial hair. You can read more about this feature and how it works on their blog: Introducing Photo Tagger: Tag Multiple Photos Instantly - MyHeritage Blog

5.       JHI in Warsaw puts 3,000 personnel cards of Jewish POWs online. These were Jews who served in the Polish military and captured in the Sept. 1939 campaign. Some of the cards have photos of the fighter. To check out these personnel cards, go to: Lipowa 7 - Central Judaic Library (jhi.pl)

6.       FindMyPast adds 200,000 new records. Discover family history across both hemispheres with records from Ireland to Australia. Check out their blog: https://www.findmypast.com/blog/new/waterford-queensland?utm_source=pr-fridays&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=blog

7.       Introducing FamilyTreeDNA Discover™ From FamilyTreeDNA, Discover is currently in its Beta phase and states that you can get access to the following Y-DNA reports: Haplogroup story, Country frequency, Notable connections, Migration map and Ancient connections. For more information go to: Introducing FamilyTreeDNA Discover Reports for Y-DNA! (mailchi.mp)

8.       New and Updated Databases on IGRA’s Website. The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new and updated databases on its website. There are now close to 2.5 million records available in their databases. With each release they provide a variety of records to their collection. A preview of the databases is available at https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/2022-07-igra-database-release

9.       Jewish Philanthropists Among Prestigious Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy Recipients. Long time Jewish Genealogical Society of Tulsa member and supporter Lynn Schusterman and her daughter Stacy are among recipients of this year’s Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy. When I spoke to Lynn congratulating her on this honor, she was more excited about meeting Dolly Parton than receiving the award! Read the story from The Times of Israel: Lynn and Stacy Schusterman, Dolly Parton among Carnegie philanthropy medal winners | The Times of Israel

10.   Anne Frank’s last six months depicted in new videos. ‘Anne Frank – After the Arrest,’ was just released in English-language by The Anne Frank House museum, shows young Holocaust diarist’s deportation and death, filling in what she could not write. An actress playing the young Jewish diarist describes the last six months of her life, from her arrest to her death in a Nazi concentration camp. It was released this past Thursday, 78 years to the day since Anne, her parents, her sister and four other Jews who hid with them in a secret annex of an Amsterdam house were arrested. Read the full story and see the trailer in The Times of Israel: Anne Frank's last six months depicted in new videos | The Times of Israel

11.   Soldiers restore 1,500-year-old site of ancient convent accidentally damaged by IDF. Archaeological complex including church and colorful mosaic may have been built to memorialize biblical Hannah, mother of prophet Samuel, near the central town of Shoham, says Israel Antiquities Authority. Read the story from The Times of Israel: Soldiers restore 1,500-year-old site of ancient convent accidentally damaged by IDF | The Times of Israel

12.   Research on Roman ballistics confirms Second Temple battle account. Computer calculations of 70 CE Roman arsenal uncovered in excavations in Jerusalem demonstrate veracity of Jewish historian Josephus Flavius’s report of intense fighting near Third Wall. Born Joseph Ben Matthias to a priestly family circa 38 CE, Josephus was a leading Jewish military leader during the Jewish revolt until he was captured by the Romans in 67 CE. Taken in chains to Rome, Josephus eventually won his freedom through a “prophecy” that Vespasian would become emperor. Read the story from the Times of Israel: Proving Josephus: Research on Roman ballistics confirms Second Temple battle account | The Times of Israel

13.   Romania to pay pensions of citizens who moved to Israel after surviving Holocaust. Deal between Jerusalem and Bucharest, which was caught up in red tape for past six years, expected to provide some 7,000 survivors with hundreds of additional shekels a month. Israeli Holocaust survivors who held Romanian citizenship during World War II will be eligible for Romanian pensions. Read the story from the Times of Israel: Romania to pay pensions of citizens who moved to Israel after surviving Holocaust | The Times of Israel

14.   The History of Ethiopian Jewry. A Jewish community in Ethiopia, the Beta Israel (House of Israel) has existed for at least 15 centuries. Most likely, the Beta Israel arrived in Ethiopia between the first and sixth centuries, coming as merchants or artisans from various countries in the region. Read more from My Jewish Learning: The History of Ethiopian Jewry | My Jewish Learning

15.   What sort of Yiddish did Jews in Hungary speak? Hungarian Yiddish may be today's most common Yiddish dialect but many Hungarian Jews in the old country didn’t even speak Yiddish. When you hear Yiddish on the streets of Brooklyn these days, the likelihood is it’s Hungarian Yiddish. Even Galician, Polish, and Lithuanian Hasidim use the Hungarian dialect today. One reason could be that the Hungarian-descended Satmar Hasidim have been more successful at maintaining Yiddish as its daily vernacular. Read the story from The Forward: What sort of Yiddish did Jews in Hungary speak? – The Forward

16For all of the baseball fans. Listen to legendary Dodgers broadcaster Vin Scully’s classic call of Jewish pitcher Sandy Koufax’s perfect game: Read the story and listen to Scully’s broadcast of the 9th inning on September 9, 1965, from JTA: https://www.jta.org/2022/08/03/sports/listen-to-legendary-dodgers-broadcaster-vin-scullys-classic-call-of-sandy-koufaxs-perfect-game?utm_source=JTA_Maropost&utm_campaign=JTA_DB&utm_medium=email&mpweb=1161-46819-330044 Jewish Trivia: He was born Sanford Braun on December 30, 1935

 


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Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina #bessarabia

John Hoenig
 

There is a website cemla.com that lists the immigrants to Argentina with their age, profession, port of departure, name of ship, and date of arrival. Searching for the surname VAYS gives 7 hits. A Ukrainian family of six that arrived August 15, 1923, from Hamburg and a single individual of nationality Argentina who arrived in 1955. You might want to search that database with alternative spellings of Vays.

John Hoenig
Williamsburg, VA


Polish-speaking volunteer to check some entries for a list of Kolomyya survivors #galicia #holocaust

John Hoenig
 

Hi all,

 

I have a list of 800 people from Kolomyya (then Poland, now Ukraine) who survived WWII. It was created in Kolomyya shortly after the war ended. I have entered the names and associated data into a database and would like to make it available on the JewishGen website. However, there were some comments in Polish in the original that I have done my best to translate (though I don’t speak Polish). The list is exciting because it usually lists a person’s name, the father’s name (and sometimes the mother’s name), and the street address. Sometimes profession, maiden name, and other information is given. Parents’ names are given in the genitive case. I provide the names in both the genitive and nominative cases for the ease of people who don’t speak Polish. But, for a few names I’m not sure what is the nominative case and could use some help with that.

 

If you speak Polish and would be willing to take a look at the entries where I am unsure of the translation, please contact me offline. I think the work can be done in less than an hour. The database is ready to be processed by JewishGen except for the checking of Polish translations and name conversions.

 

John Hoenig, Williamsburg, VA


Belarus:Information from a WWI Archival Document #belarus

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,
I am including a table that I created, based on information found in the Russian State Military Historical Archive, entitled "List of Special Representatives of the Petrograd Jewish Committee for Assistance to Victims of War...in Mogilev, Vitebsk & Minsk Provinces".
There is no additional information other than what I have included in the table. The original document was in Russian.

**note: Gwar.mil.ru/documents is not always available on the internet, probably due to the war with Ukraine. Additionally, at least for me, when it had been available, I found it difficult to locate a lot of the information, but it's always worth a try.

Just for additional information for you, there are quite a few lists related to Jews from other areas, besides Belarus:
Ex. Polish & Lithuanian evacuees, military/soldiers, etc.
So, if you can get into the site, "let your fingers do the walking..." & explore--of course, it's all in Russian and sometimes Polish.
Marilyn Robinson
Florida









ViewMate: Kowel - Ukraine, Russian Translation Requested #ukraine #translation

Ilan Ganot
 

I've posted a WW-2 certificate in Russian concerning Mania Kozak from Kowel, Ukraine, for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99472
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Kind Regards,
Ilan Ganot
ilang12350@... 


Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina #bessarabia

Harvey Kaplan
 

My mother's cousin emigrated from Kamenets-Podolsk, Ukraine, in late 1906 to Argentina via Rotterdam.

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow, Scotland



On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 16:23, <kosfiszer8@...> wrote:
The prevalent route would have been through the Black Sea and then the ports on the Mediterranean to South America (Marseille in France, Barcelona in Spain and Genoa in Italy). Having said that I am attaching the immigration to Argentina from a Vays family from the Ukraine that came through Hamburg on the Baltic sea in 1923.

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Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas


Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina #bessarabia

laura.posternak@...
 

Hello, most of the people who came from this areas depart from the ports of Cherburgo, Hamburg, Amsterdam.
I Searched  Vays In Cemla search engine, but i didn't  find anyone call  Mordejai, but  the way to write de surname can be different in many possibilities  ( WAISS, WEISS,VAIS)
You  can  try in Cemla search engine writing the surname in different ways.
Laura Posternak
Buenos Aires Argentina


Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina #bessarabia

angel kosfiszer
 

The prevalent route would have been through the Black Sea and then the ports on the Mediterranean to South America (Marseille in France, Barcelona in Spain and Genoa in Italy). Having said that I am attaching the immigration to Argentina from a Vays family from the Ukraine that came through Hamburg on the Baltic sea in 1923.

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Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas


Re: Seeking advice on 1800s Warsaw records #poland #records

Sarah L Meyer
 

JRI-Poland.org  has many Warsaw records from about 1826 to the early 1900's.  1868 is when the records change language.  Prior to 1868 they are in Polish and afterwards in Russian.  The search engine is very good.  You may get a film number for family history library microfilms or there may be a way to "click here to view record".  If you get a film number those films are available in Family History Libraries.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Gesher Galicia Thoughts for Tisha B'Av #galicia #poland

Steven Turner
 

We wish all those observing Tisha B’Av, or the Ninth of Av, (this year on the 10th of Av because the 9th falls on Shabbat) an easy and meaningful fast. Photo: Jewish women praying on Tisha B'Av in Poland 1926.

Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia


Re: Finding history in Glasgow, Scotland and tracing un-named relative #unitedkingdom

Jill Whitehead
 

Sometimes Atlantic ships stopped en route in Ireland. If there was a storm, it was more likely to have meant a stop off in Ireland, whether scheduled or unscheduled.   

Harvey is right about travelling in stages, but this may have been for various reasons. One of my Brown Edinburgh family emigrated to Cape Town, South Africa in 1906 because she had been promised to a man from Lithuania. Another Brown family member emigrated even earlier from Edinburgh to Sydney, Australia in 1886, aged only 17, because she had been promised to a man from Lithuania as well. 

One of my Abrahams (formerly Ceglarski of Suwalki) family arrived in Birmingham in 1870, and stayed until 1890. His reasons for leaving 20 years later seemed to be:
1) He had a very large number of children and needed work to support them (but he left his older children behind with his brother in Manchester) and
2) He had a brother in St Louis whom he joined before going onto Chicago where he called himself Siegel. 

I have yet another example where the stay in Britain was a lot longer than 20 years. My great grand uncle  Barnet Servian (Baruch Serwianski) had arrived in Liverpool with my great grandfather in 1875. He married in 1879 and had four Liverpool born children. His wife died and he remarried. But because he never naturalized, he got caught by the UK 1905 Aliens Act. He and his 2nd wife and four grown up children emigrated to Chicago in 1905 (where they had family), and some went onto Detroit and Toronto.  

There are also some examples of criss-crossing the Atlantic over time with years spent in one country and then the other. Another Servian spent 6 months of each year in New York and six months in Manchester (where he had had business interests).

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


45,000+ New #Subcarpathia Records on JewishGen #subcarpathia

Lara Diamond
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce that over 45,000 records have been
added to our Sub-Carpathia Vital Records collection, which can be
searched via JewishGen's Hungary and Ukraine databases, as well as
through the Unified Search, for a total of over 145,000 records! The
new records include:

37926 births
2531 marriages
4970 deaths

You can access JewishGen’s Hungary Database by clicking here:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/

The addition of these records was made possible by the hard work of
many volunteers who translated, transcribed, and validated the
records. We greatly appreciate their dedication.

We can use your financial help, which will go towards paying local
researchers for their time in photographing additional records. You
can donate to our project here:
https://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=50
and selecting the Sub-Carpathia SIG General Fund. Your donation is
tax deductible, if you are a US citizen. Donations of $180 or more
also get you access to indexed records as they are completed, before
they are available on JewishGen (we already have another 5000 records
that have been indexed but are not yet available online, with more
being added regularly)

We also could use the help of those who are fluent in Hungarian and
Czech, to help add additional information to the indexed records.

Answers to some questions that come up after I send these sorts of
announcements:
Q: Do you have records for my specific town? When do you expect to
get those records?
A: Unfortunately I cannot address each specific town/village. We plan
to get records for all towns in Subcarpathia. Even during the best of
times, it's difficult to predict what towns' records I'll be getting
when. We have still been obtaining images during the current war, but
they are a bit more sporadic, so I definitely can't predict anything.

Q: Can you send me digital images for a record that I found indexed on
JewishGen?
A: Yes! Please fill out https://tinyurl.com/SubcarpathiaDocRequest
(and be patient since I expect this announcement will generate lots of
requests)

Lara Diamond
Director of Subcarpathia Research
JewishGen.org


Seeking advice on 1800s Warsaw records #poland #records

Barry Clarke
 

My great-grandmother Molly's 1929 South African death notice states she was born in WARSAW.
Her son, my grandfather Samuel's UK 1921 census states he was born in WARSAW.
Earlier UK censuses state her daughter, Gertrude, was born in Russian Poland. I believe WARSAW.
I suspect too both of Molly's marriages were in WARSAW.

Yet, I have no idea how to verify any of this or where to ask for records: That is the guidance I am seeking.
 
The limited information I have: 
 
1. Molly's Polish family name was SZKLARKIEWICZ. Her Hebrew name was RACHEL MALKAH BAT MORDECHAI MATTITYAHU HALEVI. She was born in Warsaw around 1863.
Her anglicized name was MOLLY (MALA?) CLARKE. Her father was MATTHEW (MATEUSZ?). Her mother was ZLATA or SIMILAR. Her brother, MAX (MAKSYMILIAN?), was born
in Jedwabne, Lomza, in 1869.
 
2. Molly's son, my grandfather, we only ever knew as SAMUEL CLARKE. We don't have Polish or Hebrew names for him. He was born in Warsaw on 22 April 1881.
 
3. Samuel's father, Molly's first husband, was a STEIGLITZ (or SIMILAR). We don't know his FIRST NAME. We assume Molly and Steiglitz were married in Warsaw as Samuel
was born there. Steiglitz was in the army and died or was killed around the time Samuel was born, around 1881. We know absolutely nothing else about Steiglitz or any family he may have had.
 
4. Molly emigrated to the UK with baby Samuel, per family sometime between 1881 and 1883. (There are no passenger lists or immigration records in that era from European countries to the UK.) Aboard ship, Molly met JACOB CLARKE, Hebrew name YAAKOV BEN CHAIM ISRAEL, born in Losice, Siedlce. They married (see below). We know MOLLY anglicized SZKLARKIEWICZ to CLARKE because Molly's brother, Max, was known as MAX CLARKE. We know nothing about Jacob or any family of his, and we even wonder if he took the CLARKE name from Molly rather than it being his name too (doubt endogamy as they apparently had not known each other before meeting on the ship.) 
 
5. Molly and Jacob's UK marriage authorization and certificate show that they married in Dublin in 1890.
 
6. However, per UK censuses, their daughter, GERTRUDE, was born around 1887 in RUSSIAN POLAND, three years before their UK marriage. My theory is that Molly and Jacob went back for a while to Russian Poland in the mid to latter 1880s, probably had a religious marriage in Warsaw, where Molly gave birth to Gertrude, and when they returned to the UK they married again to have an official UK marriage record. The reason I believe this took place in Warsaw is that I found a Warsaw studio photo of a heavier Molly than I had seen in a later UK photo, and so I believe it was taken around the time of Gertrude's birth. An expert at interpreting old photos dated that Warsaw photo to have been taken around 1887/8, which ties in with that theory. The Majorkiewicz photographic studio at 3 Plac Krasinskich is a somewhat classy address but I don't have a clue as to what that might tell us. Jacob in the UK in the 1890s gave his profession on the marriage certificate as a general dealer and on his naturalization certificate as a draper. 
 
So, I am wondering if anyone out there has appropriate experience to tell me honestly and realistically what chance there is, AND HOW, to try and locate any Warsaw records relating to any of these births or marriages, or to discover anything more about the family at all. I have tried all the usual ancestry and Jewish genealogy websites.

Thank you,

Barry Clarke
Brit living in Florida. Gmail address: bbclarke98

SZKLARKIEWICZ changed to CLARKE from Warsaw, Jedwabne and the Lomza region
STEIGLITZ or SIMILAR, possibly from Warsaw, died or was killed around 1881

BARNETT supposedly BIENSTOCK OR SIMILAR, from Poland but not known where
NEUMARK changed to NEWMARK from Poznan
LEVINSON changed to BRAHAM from Kalisz
GOODMAN from Poland but not known where
ABRAHAMS from Poland but not known where
 


Re: Finding history in Glasgow, Scotland and tracing un-named relative #unitedkingdom

Harvey Kaplan
 

Migration in stages was very common at that time, with East European Jewish immigrants often moving around cities and towns in Britain and Ireland, before settling down, or
later moving on to the USA, Canada, South Africa etc. (Also happened a number of times in my family.) In Scotland, they could leave by ship from Glasgow.

Not so sure about the story of a ship from Hamburg stopping at a Scottish port.   I've never heard of weather causing an immigrant ship to make an unscheduled stop at a Scottish port. 
Wouldn't think they would be anywhere near Scotland and it was most likely that any stop would have been at an English port. 

Harvey Kaplan
Scottish Jewish Archives Centre
Glasgow

On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 at 16:54, <janllb@...> wrote:
Option B) happened in my LASTMAN and KUTNER families, in that a stop in the UK (Glasgow and London respectively) for several months to a couple of years to raise funds both for passage and for North American resettlement, was made (usually by the men immigrating ahead if their families). I assume North America was thought to be more desirable esp pre WWI due to friends and relatives already being here.
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Jan Lastman, Toronto ON CANADA  janllb@...

Researching: LASTMAN/N HOLLAND=>Lublin early 1700s; mid-1800s=>POLAND: Łódź, Radom, Warsaw, Szydlowiec, Ostrowiec; GERMANY: Leipzig, Breslau. Married KLAJMAN, KAUFMAN, LEDERMAN, KAC, CUKIER, MANDELSBERG (to DAVIDSON), STROSBERG, WAJCHANDLER, KUTNER/KUTCHINSKY=> Toronto, Philadelphia, Rio de Janeiro pre/post WWI. Survivors=> France, Israel, Australia, Sweden, USA
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Also researching: SINGER/ZYNGIER POLAND: Janow Poldaski=>Toronto, ?Columbus OH? pre WW1 married SCHAFER/SHAFIR UKRAINE: Linitz/Illinits=>Toronto, Detroit, NYC 
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See also: Rapoport-Quint Tree
 https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-69044942/rapoport-quint


Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina #bessarabia

bubala8@...
 

I am trying to find some ancestry information via shipping lists.  However, I do not know where to start.  All I know is that my grandfather’s niece and her husband moved from Bessarabia, then Romania (now Moldova) to Buenos Aires, Argentina.  I presume this was some time after World War I or perhaps just before.  I know the name of her husband (Mordechai Vays) but nothing else.

 

My question is, when leaving Bessarabia to get to Buenos Aires, how would they have travelled, e.g. from which European port?  Would it be from a Spanish port such as Barcelona or Cadiz or could it be from Naples or Marseilles or would they have gone from a location nearer to Bessarabia?

 

I have inherited a family postcard from my grandfather.  On one side is writing which I have tried to get translated with minimal success regarding family details.  On the other side is a photo of the niece, her husband and their daughter.  This appears to have been taken professionally in Buenos Aires in the 1920s, from the clothing that the family are wearing, plus there is a postmark with the words “Buenos Aires” on it.

 

Any information about shipping lines that the family might have taken to reach Argentina at that time would be most appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Sandra Wasserman

 


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Michael Sharp
 

Any ideas for decent databases for birth records,  etc for someone born in Bucharest in 1891, also for subsequent school matriculation.

Haven't been able to find much on JewishGen or Ancestry.

Thanks
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