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MNJGS will present a virtual program featuring Dan Kestrel speaking on Understanding Your DNA Matches, Aug 14, 2022 12:30 PM Central Time
#dna
#education
#events
casson123@...
Understanding Your DNA Matches: Practical Examples
Dan Kestrel has always been intensely curious to learn more about his ancestry. Testing his own DNA as well as the DNA of close relatives on both sides of his family has helped him find long-lost branches of his family tree and reconnect with people in those branches. Although he is not a geneticist, he has successfully helped adoptees find their biological parents through a combination of DNA evidence and good old-fashioned genealogy research. Dan will offer a symphony of practical tips for using Ancestry, 23andMe, My Heritage, FamilyTreeDNA, GEDmatch and other online sources of information to make more sense of many of those unfamiliar names and faces on your DNA match list. The program will take place on-line via Zoom. For more information and to register, go to https://www.mnjgs.org/event. Questions can be emailed to MNJGS at https://www.mnjgs.org/contact. The program is free for members, $5 for non-members. Payments can be made at https://www.mnjgs.org/support-us. -- Liba Casson-Nudell Minneapolis, MN Researching: NOTKIN from Minsk, Hlusk, Gomel, Zlynka and CASSON/CHAZANSKI from Nemencine, Vilnius
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Family surname engraved in Hebrew on the BACK of a gravestone?
#names
Myron Schreck
I have a question about having the family surname engraved in Hebrew on the BACK of a gravestone. My grandfather did that with my grandmother’s Matzeivah in Kolbuszowa in 1930. Of course, the front was all in Hebrew with my grandmother’s religious name: Esther Malka bat Moshe Yechiel. But on the back, grandfather had the name “Schreck” engraved in Hebrew: “Shin Resh Erin Kof”. Last night I found a Jewishgen record with a photo of the family surname engraved on the back of the Matzeivah. It was the “Frost” surname in Hebrew — which is a family I recognized and I had found on the Kolbuszowa 1929 Business Directory. Has anyone else found surnames engraved ON THE BACK of Matzeivot? Is this a family custom, or regional custom, or what?
-- MYRON SCHRECK Moscow, Idaho USA schreck2020@... Researching: Bar, Ukraine; for Brodsky, Perel, Leifer; And Kolbuszowa, Poland; for Schreck, Weiss, Blau, Gross, Blau, Franzblau, Jochnowicz, Newman, Kira, Leshkowitz, Leibles
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Frieda Moshinsky
#russia
marigold98672@...
Frieda Atkin was my great great grandmother ( born About 1835). Her maiden name was Moshinsky. She was married to Abraham Josef Atkin. Their only child was Rachmiel Atkin ( B. about 1857) . Frieda and her husband were probably born and died in Russia. (Perhaps in Bela Tserkva, where their grandchildren were born. Their son, Rachmiel was married to 5 different women over his lifetime. Rachmiel's children were Nathan Ettkin, Sara (Sadie) Edelman, Jennie (Shiendel) Leibowitz my grandmother), and Fanny Schwartz. If any of this sound familiar to you I would love to hear from you.
Thank you. Marilyn Feingold Moderators note: please respond privately. If you do not know how to reply directly to an individual, please see:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1tIJXY80vSMUUCbifHcUFa9ao3o8MzZ7kHAGbY_qE8/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: Immigration/Emigration records sought
#records
Stephen Weinstein
On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 12:21 PM, <ebachert@...> wrote:
I don't know from what European port they sailed.Try familysearch.org and ancestry.com databases of departures from European ports that include that time period, such as Web: Bremen, Germany, Passenger Lists Index, 1907-1939 https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/9734/ (which is currently free, unlike most of ancestry.com). -- Stephen Weinstein Camarillo, California, USA stephenweinstein@...
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The JewishGen Weekly News Nosh, August 7,2022
#JewishGenUpdates
Phil Goldfarb
JewishGen Weekly E-Newsletter Phil Goldfarb, Editor Date: August 7, 2022 “A Family Without The Knowledge Of Their Past History, Origin And Culture Is Like A Tree Without Roots”
A great question last week was: “Will the Weekly News Nosh be archived?” The answer is YES! Since it is posted each week on the JewishGen Discussion Group (JGDG), all messages are archived. In fact, there are currently over 670,500 searchable archived messages going back to 1998. This is a tremendous advantage that one has being a member (free) of the JGDG. If you have not searched the Archives for some personal genealogy information (names, places), you might try doing so. Go to "messages" on your home JGDG page, then "search." For problems, please contact support@.... A reminder that joining the JGDG is separate from being a member of JewishGen.org There will not be a News Nosh next week, August 14th as I will be on vacation. Enjoy this week’s Nosh! Regards, Phil 1. 1. A Virtual Event Next Week From The Museum of Jewish Heritage — A Living Memorial to the Holocaust. Titled: Wounds into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma. Join Rabbi Dr. Tirzah Firestone for a talk exploring the journey of culling family and tribal legacies for their positive, life-giving gifts and facing the detrimental patterns we have inherited, in order to dissolve and repair them. Date: Thursday August 11, 2022 Time: 2:00 PM (Eastern Time) – 3:00 PM (check your local time zone). To read more about the program and to register for this free event (with a suggested donation), go to: Wounds into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma (mjhnyc.org)
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Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina
#bessarabia
John Hoenig
There is a website cemla.com that lists the immigrants to Argentina with their age, profession, port of departure, name of ship, and date of arrival. Searching for the surname VAYS gives 7 hits. A Ukrainian family of six that arrived August 15, 1923, from Hamburg and a single individual of nationality Argentina who arrived in 1955. You might want to search that database with alternative spellings of Vays.
John Hoenig Williamsburg, VA
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Polish-speaking volunteer to check some entries for a list of Kolomyya survivors
#galicia
#holocaust
John Hoenig
Hi all,
I have a list of 800 people from Kolomyya (then Poland, now Ukraine) who survived WWII. It was created in Kolomyya shortly after the war ended. I have entered the names and associated data into a database and would like to make it available on the JewishGen website. However, there were some comments in Polish in the original that I have done my best to translate (though I don’t speak Polish). The list is exciting because it usually lists a person’s name, the father’s name (and sometimes the mother’s name), and the street address. Sometimes profession, maiden name, and other information is given. Parents’ names are given in the genitive case. I provide the names in both the genitive and nominative cases for the ease of people who don’t speak Polish. But, for a few names I’m not sure what is the nominative case and could use some help with that.
If you speak Polish and would be willing to take a look at the entries where I am unsure of the translation, please contact me offline. I think the work can be done in less than an hour. The database is ready to be processed by JewishGen except for the checking of Polish translations and name conversions.
John Hoenig, Williamsburg, VA
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Belarus:Information from a WWI Archival Document
#belarus
Marilyn Robinson
Hi All,
I am including a table that I created, based on information found in the Russian State Military Historical Archive, entitled "List of Special Representatives of the Petrograd Jewish Committee for Assistance to Victims of War...in Mogilev, Vitebsk & Minsk Provinces". There is no additional information other than what I have included in the table. The original document was in Russian. **note: Gwar.mil.ru/documents is not always available on the internet, probably due to the war with Ukraine. Additionally, at least for me, when it had been available, I found it difficult to locate a lot of the information, but it's always worth a try. Just for additional information for you, there are quite a few lists related to Jews from other areas, besides Belarus: Ex. Polish & Lithuanian evacuees, military/soldiers, etc. So, if you can get into the site, "let your fingers do the walking..." & explore--of course, it's all in Russian and sometimes Polish. Marilyn Robinson Florida 
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ViewMate: Kowel - Ukraine, Russian Translation Requested
#ukraine
#translation
Ilan Ganot
I've posted a WW-2 certificate in Russian concerning Mania Kozak from Kowel, Ukraine, for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99472
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Kind Regards, Ilan Ganot ilang12350@...
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Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina
#bessarabia
Harvey Kaplan
My mother's cousin emigrated from Kamenets-Podolsk, Ukraine, in late 1906 to Argentina via Rotterdam. Harvey Kaplan Glasgow, Scotland
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 16:23, <kosfiszer8@...> wrote:
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Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina
#bessarabia
laura.posternak@...
Hello, most of the people who came from this areas depart from the ports of Cherburgo, Hamburg, Amsterdam.
I Searched Vays In Cemla search engine, but i didn't find anyone call Mordejai, but the way to write de surname can be different in many possibilities ( WAISS, WEISS,VAIS) You can try in Cemla search engine writing the surname in different ways. Laura Posternak Buenos Aires Argentina
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Re: Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina
#bessarabia
angel kosfiszer
The prevalent route would have been through the Black Sea and then the ports on the Mediterranean to South America (Marseille in France, Barcelona in Spain and Genoa in Italy). Having said that I am attaching the immigration to Argentina from a Vays family from the Ukraine that came through Hamburg on the Baltic sea in 1923.
 -- Angel KosfiszerRichardson, Texas
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Sarah L Meyer
JRI-Poland.org has many Warsaw records from about 1826 to the early 1900's. 1868 is when the records change language. Prior to 1868 they are in Polish and afterwards in Russian. The search engine is very good. You may get a film number for family history library microfilms or there may be a way to "click here to view record". If you get a film number those films are available in Family History Libraries.
-- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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We wish all those observing Tisha B’Av, or the Ninth of Av, (this year on the 10th of Av because the 9th falls on Shabbat) an easy and meaningful fast. Photo: Jewish women praying on Tisha B'Av in Poland 1926.
Steven S. Turner President, Gesher Galicia
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Re: Finding history in Glasgow, Scotland and tracing un-named relative
#unitedkingdom
Jill Whitehead
Sometimes Atlantic ships stopped en route in Ireland. If there was a storm, it was more likely to have meant a stop off in Ireland, whether scheduled or unscheduled.
Harvey is right about travelling in stages, but this may have been for various reasons. One of my Brown Edinburgh family emigrated to Cape Town, South Africa in 1906 because she had been promised to a man from Lithuania. Another Brown family member emigrated even earlier from Edinburgh to Sydney, Australia in 1886, aged only 17, because she had been promised to a man from Lithuania as well. One of my Abrahams (formerly Ceglarski of Suwalki) family arrived in Birmingham in 1870, and stayed until 1890. His reasons for leaving 20 years later seemed to be: 1) He had a very large number of children and needed work to support them (but he left his older children behind with his brother in Manchester) and 2) He had a brother in St Louis whom he joined before going onto Chicago where he called himself Siegel. I have yet another example where the stay in Britain was a lot longer than 20 years. My great grand uncle Barnet Servian (Baruch Serwianski) had arrived in Liverpool with my great grandfather in 1875. He married in 1879 and had four Liverpool born children. His wife died and he remarried. But because he never naturalized, he got caught by the UK 1905 Aliens Act. He and his 2nd wife and four grown up children emigrated to Chicago in 1905 (where they had family), and some went onto Detroit and Toronto. There are also some examples of criss-crossing the Atlantic over time with years spent in one country and then the other. Another Servian spent 6 months of each year in New York and six months in Manchester (where he had had business interests). Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
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45,000+ New #Subcarpathia Records on JewishGen
#subcarpathia
Lara Diamond
JewishGen is pleased to announce that over 45,000 records have been
added to our Sub-Carpathia Vital Records collection, which can be searched via JewishGen's Hungary and Ukraine databases, as well as through the Unified Search, for a total of over 145,000 records! The new records include: 37926 births 2531 marriages 4970 deaths You can access JewishGen’s Hungary Database by clicking here: https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/ The addition of these records was made possible by the hard work of many volunteers who translated, transcribed, and validated the records. We greatly appreciate their dedication. We can use your financial help, which will go towards paying local researchers for their time in photographing additional records. You can donate to our project here: https://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=50 and selecting the Sub-Carpathia SIG General Fund. Your donation is tax deductible, if you are a US citizen. Donations of $180 or more also get you access to indexed records as they are completed, before they are available on JewishGen (we already have another 5000 records that have been indexed but are not yet available online, with more being added regularly) We also could use the help of those who are fluent in Hungarian and Czech, to help add additional information to the indexed records. Answers to some questions that come up after I send these sorts of announcements: Q: Do you have records for my specific town? When do you expect to get those records? A: Unfortunately I cannot address each specific town/village. We plan to get records for all towns in Subcarpathia. Even during the best of times, it's difficult to predict what towns' records I'll be getting when. We have still been obtaining images during the current war, but they are a bit more sporadic, so I definitely can't predict anything. Q: Can you send me digital images for a record that I found indexed on JewishGen? A: Yes! Please fill out https://tinyurl.com/SubcarpathiaDocRequest (and be patient since I expect this announcement will generate lots of requests) Lara Diamond Director of Subcarpathia Research JewishGen.org
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My great-grandmother Molly's 1929 South African death notice states she was born in WARSAW.
Her son, my grandfather Samuel's UK 1921 census states he was born in WARSAW. Earlier UK censuses state her daughter, Gertrude, was born in Russian Poland. I believe WARSAW. I suspect too both of Molly's marriages were in WARSAW. Yet, I have no idea how to verify any of this or where to ask for records: That is the guidance I am seeking. The limited information I have:
1. Molly's Polish family name was SZKLARKIEWICZ. Her Hebrew name was RACHEL MALKAH BAT MORDECHAI MATTITYAHU HALEVI. She was born in Warsaw around 1863.
Her anglicized name was MOLLY (MALA?) CLARKE. Her father was MATTHEW (MATEUSZ?). Her mother was ZLATA or SIMILAR. Her brother, MAX (MAKSYMILIAN?), was born in Jedwabne, Lomza, in 1869. 2. Molly's son, my grandfather, we only ever knew as SAMUEL CLARKE. We don't have Polish or Hebrew names for him. He was born in Warsaw on 22 April 1881.
3. Samuel's father, Molly's first husband, was a STEIGLITZ (or SIMILAR). We don't know his FIRST NAME. We assume Molly and Steiglitz were married in Warsaw as Samuel
was born there. Steiglitz was in the army and died or was killed around the time Samuel was born, around 1881. We know absolutely nothing else about Steiglitz or any family he may have had. 4. Molly emigrated to the UK with baby Samuel, per family sometime between 1881 and 1883. (There are no passenger lists or immigration records in that era from European countries to the UK.) Aboard ship, Molly met JACOB CLARKE, Hebrew name YAAKOV BEN CHAIM ISRAEL, born in Losice, Siedlce. They married (see below). We know MOLLY anglicized SZKLARKIEWICZ to CLARKE because Molly's brother, Max, was known as MAX CLARKE. We know nothing about Jacob or any family of his, and we even wonder if he took the CLARKE name from Molly rather than it being his name too (doubt endogamy as they apparently had not known each other before meeting on the ship.)
5. Molly and Jacob's UK marriage authorization and certificate show that they married in Dublin in 1890.
6. However, per UK censuses, their daughter, GERTRUDE, was born around 1887 in RUSSIAN POLAND, three years before their UK marriage. My theory is that Molly and Jacob went back for a while to Russian Poland in the mid to latter 1880s, probably had a religious marriage in Warsaw, where Molly gave birth to Gertrude, and when they returned to the UK they married again to have an official UK marriage record. The reason I believe this took place in Warsaw is that I found a Warsaw studio photo of a heavier Molly than I had seen in a later UK photo, and so I believe it was taken around the time of Gertrude's birth. An expert at interpreting old photos dated that Warsaw photo to have been taken around 1887/8, which ties in with that theory. The Majorkiewicz photographic studio at 3 Plac Krasinskich is a somewhat classy address but I don't have a clue as to what that might tell us. Jacob in the UK in the 1890s gave his profession on the marriage certificate as a general dealer and on his naturalization certificate as a draper.
So, I am wondering if anyone out there has appropriate experience to tell me honestly and realistically what chance there is, AND HOW, to try and locate any Warsaw records relating to any of these births or marriages, or to discover anything more about the family at all. I have tried all the usual ancestry and Jewish genealogy websites.
Thank you, Barry Clarke Brit living in Florida. Gmail address: bbclarke98 SZKLARKIEWICZ changed to CLARKE from Warsaw, Jedwabne and the Lomza region STEIGLITZ or SIMILAR, possibly from Warsaw, died or was killed around 1881 BARNETT supposedly BIENSTOCK OR SIMILAR, from Poland but not known where NEUMARK changed to NEWMARK from Poznan LEVINSON changed to BRAHAM from Kalisz GOODMAN from Poland but not known where ABRAHAMS from Poland but not known where
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Re: Finding history in Glasgow, Scotland and tracing un-named relative
#unitedkingdom
Harvey Kaplan
Migration in stages was very common at that time, with East European Jewish immigrants often moving around cities and towns in Britain and Ireland, before settling down, or later moving on to the USA, Canada, South Africa etc. (Also happened a number of times in my family.) In Scotland, they could leave by ship from Glasgow. Not so sure about the story of a ship from Hamburg stopping at a Scottish port. I've never heard of weather causing an immigrant ship to make an unscheduled stop at a Scottish port. Wouldn't think they would be anywhere near Scotland and it was most likely that any stop would have been at an English port. Harvey Kaplan Scottish Jewish Archives Centre Glasgow
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 at 16:54, <janllb@...> wrote: Option B) happened in my LASTMAN and KUTNER families, in that a stop in the UK (Glasgow and London respectively) for several months to a couple of years to raise funds both for passage and for North American resettlement, was made (usually by the men immigrating ahead if their families). I assume North America was thought to be more desirable esp pre WWI due to friends and relatives already being here.
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Travelling from Bessarabia to Argentina
#bessarabia
bubala8@...
I am trying to find some ancestry information via shipping lists. However, I do not know where to start. All I know is that my grandfather’s niece and her husband moved from Bessarabia, then Romania (now Moldova) to Buenos Aires, Argentina. I presume this was some time after World War I or perhaps just before. I know the name of her husband (Mordechai Vays) but nothing else.
My question is, when leaving Bessarabia to get to Buenos Aires, how would they have travelled, e.g. from which European port? Would it be from a Spanish port such as Barcelona or Cadiz or could it be from Naples or Marseilles or would they have gone from a location nearer to Bessarabia?
I have inherited a family postcard from my grandfather. On one side is writing which I have tried to get translated with minimal success regarding family details. On the other side is a photo of the niece, her husband and their daughter. This appears to have been taken professionally in Buenos Aires in the 1920s, from the clothing that the family are wearing, plus there is a postmark with the words “Buenos Aires” on it.
Any information about shipping lines that the family might have taken to reach Argentina at that time would be most appreciated. Thank you.
Sandra Wasserman
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Michael Sharp
Any ideas for decent databases for birth records, etc for someone born in Bucharest in 1891, also for subsequent school matriculation.
Haven't been able to find much on JewishGen or Ancestry. Thanks -- Michael Sharp Manchester UK michael.sharp@...
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