My original post may have been misleading, and that was
certainly not my intention.

Steve Morse's missing manifest page get results. If it doesn't,
chances are that using Alex's search method will not help.
Also, the manual search is cumbersome and very time consuming.

I never actually had a problem with Steve's page, and then
found the missing manifest with Alex's method.

I did use Alex's method when he first announced it, to find
a manifest with a broken link. It took me over an hour
to jump through a lot of pages looking for the correct page.
More recently I used Steve's page unsuccessfully, but did
not do a manual search.

Shortly thereafter, the broken link was repaired, and the
manifest was readable.

I just went back to Steve's missing manifest page and did
a couple of searches, and I found the manifests, although
I actually searched on manifests that weren't missing.
I simply couldn't find a passenger with a broken link, so
I just practiced using the page to better understand how
it works.

I first marked down the page number that you get >from the
EIDB, when you get to the original manifest, as well as
the date of arrival. On the missing manifest page,
enter the date of arrival. You then get the first page
of the manifest reel. If you jump to the page number that
appeared on the original manifest page, you will get the
manifest with the passenger that you're looking for.

On one of the searches, the first page happened to be a
summary of ship arrivals on the reel. The ship that
I was looking for wasn't listed. I checked on the
previous day, going to the appropriate page, and
found the passenger.

As one who jumps in and learns by trial and error,
I would like to bring to your attention that the problems
that I encountered are discussed in the frequently-asked-
questions page found on Steve's white search form.
The entire 400-section describes all the nuances of
using the missing manifest form. Questions 402 and 403
discusses using the page number found on the EIDB.
There are other topics discussed, such as changing rolls
to jump back a day, in the event the ship that you're
looking for isn't on the reel of the date that the ship
arrived. Having now read the F-A-Q, I recommend that you
all read it also. It will certainly help to make
searching for a missing manifest much easier.

I hope that this clears up any misconceptions that I have
created. My apologies to anyone who may have wasted
time on a manual search, when it was probably un-necessary.
And I especially wish to apologize to Steve Morse in case
I tainted his good name in genner land. We all know that
we'd be far less advanced in our research today,
without Steve.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

My original post may have been misleading, and that was
certainly not my intention.

Steve Morse's missing manifest page get results. If it doesn't,
chances are that using Alex's search method will not help.
Also, the manual search is cumbersome and very time consuming.

I never actually had a problem with Steve's page, and then
found the missing manifest with Alex's method.

I did use Alex's method when he first announced it, to find
a manifest with a broken link. It took me over an hour
to jump through a lot of pages looking for the correct page.
More recently I used Steve's page unsuccessfully, but did
not do a manual search.

Shortly thereafter, the broken link was repaired, and the
manifest was readable.

I just went back to Steve's missing manifest page and did
a couple of searches, and I found the manifests, although
I actually searched on manifests that weren't missing.
I simply couldn't find a passenger with a broken link, so
I just practiced using the page to better understand how
it works.

I first marked down the page number that you get >from the
EIDB, when you get to the original manifest, as well as
the date of arrival. On the missing manifest page,
enter the date of arrival. You then get the first page
of the manifest reel. If you jump to the page number that
appeared on the original manifest page, you will get the
manifest with the passenger that you're looking for.

On one of the searches, the first page happened to be a
summary of ship arrivals on the reel. The ship that
I was looking for wasn't listed. I checked on the
previous day, going to the appropriate page, and
found the passenger.

As one who jumps in and learns by trial and error,
I would like to bring to your attention that the problems
that I encountered are discussed in the frequently-asked-
questions page found on Steve's white search form.
The entire 400-section describes all the nuances of
using the missing manifest form. Questions 402 and 403
discusses using the page number found on the EIDB.
There are other topics discussed, such as changing rolls
to jump back a day, in the event the ship that you're
looking for isn't on the reel of the date that the ship
arrived. Having now read the F-A-Q, I recommend that you
all read it also. It will certainly help to make
searching for a missing manifest much easier.

I hope that this clears up any misconceptions that I have
created. My apologies to anyone who may have wasted
time on a manual search, when it was probably un-necessary.
And I especially wish to apologize to Steve Morse in case
I tainted his good name in genner land. We all know that
we'd be far less advanced in our research today,
without Steve.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

Hi!

My surname is Bernshtam.

The are a number of Bernshtam's in Russian Jewish Encyclopedia,
but generally this surname is less common than Berstein or
Bernshtein.

What do you think - is it just variation of Berstein or
this surname has another origin?

Pavel Bernshtam

SEARCHING FOR:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov
BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi, Kharkov
BERNSHTAM
ALTSHULER - Melitopol , Kharkov
KANTOR - Polonnoe, Baranovka, Zhitomir
LAMDAN- Mlinov
ZHURAHOV- Chervonnoe, Verbovo, Zhitomir
KELMAN- Chervonnoe, Zhitomir

Hi!

My surname is Bernshtam.

The are a number of Bernshtam's in Russian Jewish Encyclopedia,
but generally this surname is less common than Berstein or
Bernshtein.

What do you think - is it just variation of Berstein or
this surname has another origin?

Pavel Bernshtam

SEARCHING FOR:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov
BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi, Kharkov
BERNSHTAM
ALTSHULER - Melitopol , Kharkov
KANTOR - Polonnoe, Baranovka, Zhitomir
LAMDAN- Mlinov
ZHURAHOV- Chervonnoe, Verbovo, Zhitomir
KELMAN- Chervonnoe, Zhitomir

THE CANADIAN GENEALOGY CENTRE WEB SITE
HOSTS A NEW PARTNER'S DATABASE

July 22, 2003 (Ottawa) - The Canadian Genealogy Centre, the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal, and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Ottawa announce the release of a new database on the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site. Of interest to a wide number of Canadians, this database contains the names of thousands of immigrants to Canada who became naturalized in the early 20th century.

This new genealogical resource was created by the Jewish
Genealogical Societies of Ottawa and of Montreal. A partnership concluded
with the Canadian Genealogy Centre allows the Societies to give the widest
possible access to this resource through the Centre's Web site. This kind
of partnership is an example of how the Canadian Genealogy Centre is working in cooperation with genealogical and other societies to develop new content online.

Lists of immigrants who became Canadian citizens and
received Canadian naturalization certificates between the years 1915 to 1951 were published in two, until now, rarely-used sources for genealogy
research: the Secretary of State sessional papers and the Canada Gazette.
The database contains the first phase of the project and presents the lists
of immigrants >from 1915 to 1932. The new database will be a treasure-trove
for those doing family research because it is one of the few Canadian
genealogical resources specifically designed to benefit researchers with
roots outside the Commonwealth, for example, >from the countries of Eastern
Europe.

"Without the help of its many partners, the Library and
Archives Canada would not be able to provide all the programs it offers to
the public today," said Ian Wilson, National Archivist.

The Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site, providing access to
genealogical resources in Canada or of interest to those with roots in
Canada, is made possible in part by the Canadian Culture Online Program of
the Department of Canadian Heritage. Launched in March 2003, the Web site
is already receiving more than 750,000 hits a month. It was recently named
one of 101 best family history Web sites by Family Tree Magazine due to its
appeal to a wide audience, ease of use, available resources and clear
design.

Visit the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site at: www.genealogy.gc.ca
and use the genealogical research section.

Donna Dinberg, Librarian,
Jewish Genealogy Society of Ottawa

THE CANADIAN GENEALOGY CENTRE WEB SITE
HOSTS A NEW PARTNER'S DATABASE

July 22, 2003 (Ottawa) - The Canadian Genealogy Centre, the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal, and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Ottawa announce the release of a new database on the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site. Of interest to a wide number of Canadians, this database contains the names of thousands of immigrants to Canada who became naturalized in the early 20th century.

This new genealogical resource was created by the Jewish
Genealogical Societies of Ottawa and of Montreal. A partnership concluded
with the Canadian Genealogy Centre allows the Societies to give the widest
possible access to this resource through the Centre's Web site. This kind
of partnership is an example of how the Canadian Genealogy Centre is working in cooperation with genealogical and other societies to develop new content online.

Lists of immigrants who became Canadian citizens and
received Canadian naturalization certificates between the years 1915 to 1951 were published in two, until now, rarely-used sources for genealogy
research: the Secretary of State sessional papers and the Canada Gazette.
The database contains the first phase of the project and presents the lists
of immigrants >from 1915 to 1932. The new database will be a treasure-trove
for those doing family research because it is one of the few Canadian
genealogical resources specifically designed to benefit researchers with
roots outside the Commonwealth, for example, >from the countries of Eastern
Europe.

"Without the help of its many partners, the Library and
Archives Canada would not be able to provide all the programs it offers to
the public today," said Ian Wilson, National Archivist.

The Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site, providing access to
genealogical resources in Canada or of interest to those with roots in
Canada, is made possible in part by the Canadian Culture Online Program of
the Department of Canadian Heritage. Launched in March 2003, the Web site
is already receiving more than 750,000 hits a month. It was recently named
one of 101 best family history Web sites by Family Tree Magazine due to its
appeal to a wide audience, ease of use, available resources and clear
design.

Visit the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site at: www.genealogy.gc.ca
and use the genealogical research section.

Donna Dinberg, Librarian,
Jewish Genealogy Society of Ottawa

As part of the presentation last night at this important annual
conference, JewishGen launched the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial
Registry database (JOWBR), a compilation of burial records, photographs
and information about the individual cemeteries. To help accumulate
data, JewishGen initiated an "adopt a cemetery" program to encourage
local genealogy societies, synagogue youth groups, Jewish federations,
and other interested parties worldwide to index cemetery or
landsmanschaft plot records for submission to the JOWBR project.

The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry database is one of
the largest and most sophisticated efforts undertaken by JewishGen to
date. Jewish cemeteries throughout the world are threatened with
vandalism and even extinction. It is vitally important to preserve
information on existing Jewish cemeteries so future generations will
have the benefit of this aspect of cultural heritage.

The database features 643 cemeteries, 314,778 burial records, and
11,461 tombstone photographs representing cemeteries in 25 countries. In
the coming year, JewishGen intends to include information for an
additional 242 cemeteries, 150,461 burial records and 22,400 tombstone
images >from 36 cemeteries in Eastern Europe.

We expect to see the database grow quickly as those researching
their family history contribute information about the cemeteries of
their ancestral towns and also through our partnerships with cemetery
associations throughout the world to include the Jewish Cemetery
Association of Massachusetts, the Johannesburg Jewish Helping Hand &
Burial Society (Chevra Kadisha), and the Texas Jewish Historical Society
have already provided thousands of records.

The database is now live and located at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/jowbr

Susan

Susan E. King
Managing Director
JewishGen Inc.

As part of the presentation last night at this important annual
conference, JewishGen launched the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial
Registry database (JOWBR), a compilation of burial records, photographs
and information about the individual cemeteries. To help accumulate
data, JewishGen initiated an "adopt a cemetery" program to encourage
local genealogy societies, synagogue youth groups, Jewish federations,
and other interested parties worldwide to index cemetery or
landsmanschaft plot records for submission to the JOWBR project.

The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry database is one of
the largest and most sophisticated efforts undertaken by JewishGen to
date. Jewish cemeteries throughout the world are threatened with
vandalism and even extinction. It is vitally important to preserve
information on existing Jewish cemeteries so future generations will
have the benefit of this aspect of cultural heritage.

The database features 643 cemeteries, 314,778 burial records, and
11,461 tombstone photographs representing cemeteries in 25 countries. In
the coming year, JewishGen intends to include information for an
additional 242 cemeteries, 150,461 burial records and 22,400 tombstone
images >from 36 cemeteries in Eastern Europe.

We expect to see the database grow quickly as those researching
their family history contribute information about the cemeteries of
their ancestral towns and also through our partnerships with cemetery
associations throughout the world to include the Jewish Cemetery
Association of Massachusetts, the Johannesburg Jewish Helping Hand &
Burial Society (Chevra Kadisha), and the Texas Jewish Historical Society
have already provided thousands of records.

The database is now live and located at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/jowbr

Susan

Susan E. King
Managing Director
JewishGen Inc.

JewishGen's data sharing agreement with Yad Vashem formed in 2000 has
brought over 139,000 records now part of the JewishGen Holocaust
Database. There are over another 189,000 records in progress.

Alex Avraham >from Yad Vashem made a formal presentation to JewishGen of
one of the most significant holdings last evening, the computerized
version of the Lodz Ghetto Registry containing 242,000 names. This will
bring the total records to over 562,000.

The records of the Lodz Ghetto illustrate the lives and fates of its
inhabitants >from February 1940 to August 1944. Originally published as a
five-volume work by the Organization of Former Residents of Lodz and Yad
Vashem in 1994, the information will soon be available worldwide through
the JewishGen website.


Susan E. King
Managing Director
JewishGen, Inc.

On 22 July, Iris Folkson wrote, about the "Naturalization in France
Alsace CD-ROM" :

I used the site and found my grandmother's maiden name TAGANSKI.
The surname TAGANSKI shows up and then all the info is in French.

and she asked for help. Let's remind the site is
http://www.geneanet.org/partner/ancetres/naturalisations.php3

That site has an English version (and other languages too). But it
sometimes refer to other sites, as some advertising, and
these sites are sometimes only in French, without any English
version. In your case, the site Geneanet being a "go-between",
it contents itself with saying that 3 persons named
TAGANSKI were registered in France between 1900 and 1950,
but if you want to know more... you just have
to buy the CD-ROM. More privately.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org

JewishGen's data sharing agreement with Yad Vashem formed in 2000 has
brought over 139,000 records now part of the JewishGen Holocaust
Database. There are over another 189,000 records in progress.

Alex Avraham >from Yad Vashem made a formal presentation to JewishGen of
one of the most significant holdings last evening, the computerized
version of the Lodz Ghetto Registry containing 242,000 names. This will
bring the total records to over 562,000.

The records of the Lodz Ghetto illustrate the lives and fates of its
inhabitants >from February 1940 to August 1944. Originally published as a
five-volume work by the Organization of Former Residents of Lodz and Yad
Vashem in 1994, the information will soon be available worldwide through
the JewishGen website.


Susan E. King
Managing Director
JewishGen, Inc.

On 22 July, Iris Folkson wrote, about the "Naturalization in France
Alsace CD-ROM" :

I used the site and found my grandmother's maiden name TAGANSKI.
The surname TAGANSKI shows up and then all the info is in French.

and she asked for help. Let's remind the site is
http://www.geneanet.org/partner/ancetres/naturalisations.php3

That site has an English version (and other languages too). But it
sometimes refer to other sites, as some advertising, and
these sites are sometimes only in French, without any English
version. In your case, the site Geneanet being a "go-between",
it contents itself with saying that 3 persons named
TAGANSKI were registered in France between 1900 and 1950,
but if you want to know more... you just have
to buy the CD-ROM. More privately.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org

July 22, 2003 (Ottawa) - The Canadian Genealogy Centre, the Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal, and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Ottawa announce the release of a new database on the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site. Of interest to a wide number of Canadians, this database contains the names of thousands of immigrants to Canada who became
naturalized in the early 20th century.

This new genealogical resource was created by the Jewish Genealogical Societies of Ottawa and of Montreal. A partnership concluded with the Canadian Genealogy Centre allows the Societies to give the widest
possible access to this resource through the Centre's Web site. This kind
of partnership is an example of how the Canadian Genealogy Centre is working in cooperation with genealogical and other societies to develop new content online.

Lists of immigrants who became Canadian citizens and received Canadian naturalization certificates between the years 1915 to 1951 were published in two, until now, rarely-used sources for genealogy research: the Secretary of State sessional papers and the Canada Gazette. The database contains the first phase of the project and presents the lists of immigrants >from 1915 to 1932. The new database will be a treasure-trove
for those doing family research because it is one of the few Canadian
genealogical resources specifically designed to benefit researchers with
roots outside the Commonwealth, for example, >from the countries of Eastern
Europe.

"Without the help of its many partners, the Library and Archives Canada would not be able to provide all the programs it offers to the public today," said Ian Wilson, National Archivist.

The Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site, providing access to genealogical resources in Canada or of interest to those with roots in Canada, is made possible in part by the Canadian Culture Online Program of the Department of Canadian Heritage. Launched in March 2003, the Web site is already receiving more than 750,000 hits a month. It was recently named one of 101 best family history Web sites by Family Tree Magazine due to its
appeal to a wide audience, ease of use, available resources and clear
design.

Visit the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site at: www.genealogy.gc.ca
and use the genealogical research section.


Donna Dinberg

July 22, 2003 (Ottawa) - The Canadian Genealogy Centre, the Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal, and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Ottawa announce the release of a new database on the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site. Of interest to a wide number of Canadians, this database contains the names of thousands of immigrants to Canada who became
naturalized in the early 20th century.

This new genealogical resource was created by the Jewish Genealogical Societies of Ottawa and of Montreal. A partnership concluded with the Canadian Genealogy Centre allows the Societies to give the widest
possible access to this resource through the Centre's Web site. This kind
of partnership is an example of how the Canadian Genealogy Centre is working in cooperation with genealogical and other societies to develop new content online.

Lists of immigrants who became Canadian citizens and received Canadian naturalization certificates between the years 1915 to 1951 were published in two, until now, rarely-used sources for genealogy research: the Secretary of State sessional papers and the Canada Gazette. The database contains the first phase of the project and presents the lists of immigrants >from 1915 to 1932. The new database will be a treasure-trove
for those doing family research because it is one of the few Canadian
genealogical resources specifically designed to benefit researchers with
roots outside the Commonwealth, for example, >from the countries of Eastern
Europe.

"Without the help of its many partners, the Library and Archives Canada would not be able to provide all the programs it offers to the public today," said Ian Wilson, National Archivist.

The Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site, providing access to genealogical resources in Canada or of interest to those with roots in Canada, is made possible in part by the Canadian Culture Online Program of the Department of Canadian Heritage. Launched in March 2003, the Web site is already receiving more than 750,000 hits a month. It was recently named one of 101 best family history Web sites by Family Tree Magazine due to its
appeal to a wide audience, ease of use, available resources and clear
design.

Visit the Canadian Genealogy Centre Web site at: www.genealogy.gc.ca
and use the genealogical research section.


Donna Dinberg

As part of the presentation last night at this important annual
conference, JewishGen launched the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial
Registry database (JOWBR), a compilation of burial records, photographs
and information about the individual cemeteries. To help accumulate
data, JewishGen initiated an "adopt a cemetery" program to encourage
local genealogy societies, synagogue youth groups, Jewish federations,
and other interested parties worldwide to index cemetery or
landsmanschaft plot records for submission to the JOWBR project.

The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry database is one of
the largest and most sophisticated efforts undertaken by JewishGen to
date. Jewish cemeteries throughout the world are threatened with
vandalism and even extinction. It is vitally important to preserve
information on existing Jewish cemeteries so future generations will
have the benefit of this aspect of cultural heritage.

The database features 643 cemeteries, 314,778 burial records, and
11,461 tombstone photographs representing cemeteries in 25 countries. In
the coming year, JewishGen intends to include information for an
additional 242 cemeteries, 150,461 burial records and 22,400 tombstone
images >from 36 cemeteries in Eastern Europe.

We expect to see the database grow quickly as those researching
their family history contribute information about the cemeteries of
their ancestral towns and also through our partnerships with cemetery
associations throughout the world to include the Jewish Cemetery
Association of Massachusetts, the Johannesburg Jewish Helping Hand &
Burial Society (Chevra Kadisha), and the Texas Jewish Historical Society
have already provided thousands of records.

The database is now live and located at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/jowbr

Susan

Susan E. King
Managing Director
JewishGen Inc.

I have just come across a fantastic book about the Warsaw Ghetto.
Written in Yiddish by Jonas Turkow, " Azoy iz es geven"
(Buenos Aires, 1948) is not only a memoir but contains
hundreds of names of Jews in the ghetto and it has an index!
I found there the name of my son's great-uncle who was active
in communal life with various descriptions of him and his
personality.

Jewishgenners with family in Warsaw may want to consult the index.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately if you
wish to consult the index mentioned

As part of the presentation last night at this important annual
conference, JewishGen launched the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial
Registry database (JOWBR), a compilation of burial records, photographs
and information about the individual cemeteries. To help accumulate
data, JewishGen initiated an "adopt a cemetery" program to encourage
local genealogy societies, synagogue youth groups, Jewish federations,
and other interested parties worldwide to index cemetery or
landsmanschaft plot records for submission to the JOWBR project.

The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry database is one of
the largest and most sophisticated efforts undertaken by JewishGen to
date. Jewish cemeteries throughout the world are threatened with
vandalism and even extinction. It is vitally important to preserve
information on existing Jewish cemeteries so future generations will
have the benefit of this aspect of cultural heritage.

The database features 643 cemeteries, 314,778 burial records, and
11,461 tombstone photographs representing cemeteries in 25 countries. In
the coming year, JewishGen intends to include information for an
additional 242 cemeteries, 150,461 burial records and 22,400 tombstone
images >from 36 cemeteries in Eastern Europe.

We expect to see the database grow quickly as those researching
their family history contribute information about the cemeteries of
their ancestral towns and also through our partnerships with cemetery
associations throughout the world to include the Jewish Cemetery
Association of Massachusetts, the Johannesburg Jewish Helping Hand &
Burial Society (Chevra Kadisha), and the Texas Jewish Historical Society
have already provided thousands of records.

The database is now live and located at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/jowbr

Susan

Susan E. King
Managing Director
JewishGen Inc.

I have just come across a fantastic book about the Warsaw Ghetto.
Written in Yiddish by Jonas Turkow, " Azoy iz es geven"
(Buenos Aires, 1948) is not only a memoir but contains
hundreds of names of Jews in the ghetto and it has an index!
I found there the name of my son's great-uncle who was active
in communal life with various descriptions of him and his
personality.

Jewishgenners with family in Warsaw may want to consult the index.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately if you
wish to consult the index mentioned

In article bfhqll$7eo$1@...,
Nick Landau N.Landau@... wrote:

I am sure that you know that the Fast of Gedalia is always the 3rd of
Tishri ie the day after Rosh Hashonah.

... unless that day happens to be Saturday, in which case it is
postponed by one day (there are no public fasts on Shabbat,
except for Yom Kippur).

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2

In article bfhqll$7eo$1@...,
Nick Landau N.Landau@... wrote:

I am sure that you know that the Fast of Gedalia is always the 3rd of
Tishri ie the day after Rosh Hashonah.

... unless that day happens to be Saturday, in which case it is
postponed by one day (there are no public fasts on Shabbat,
except for Yom Kippur).

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2