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Re: Internal "passports" in the Russian Empire pre-1900? #russia #lithuania #records

Russ Maurer
 

Elise,

Please see the article, "Russian Empire Passports" by Regina Kopilevich in the Spring 2021 issue of Avotaynu. In short, such passports did exist, albeit mainly for merchants. There are extensive collections of Russian Empire passport applications in the Lithuanian archives, but as I understand it there is no index and no practical way to search for a specific one. LitvakSIG does not currently have a project dealing with these documents, nor is one under consideration.

Russ Maurer
Records Acquisition & Translation Coordinator, LitvakSIG
Pepper Pike, OH


Re: Female names Gussie and Sadie #names

Gary
 

Count me as another one whose great-grandmother was a Gussie with a Hebrew name of Gittel.

Gary

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Gary Ehrlich
Rockville, MD
SCVIRSCI, Zhivotov, Ukraine; WASHLIKOVSKY/WASHALKOWSKY, SATER, Bialystock, Poland;
LIFSHITS/LIFSHITZ, GOROVITZ, HOROVITZ, Lvov, Ukraine; Ufa and Moscow, Russia
YAGUDA, Albany, NY


Seeking Hirsch family which survived the Holocaust in Budapest and emigrated to Paris #hungary #holocaust #france

APlan
 

I seek a Hirsch family which survived the Holocaust in Budapest and later emigrated to Paris.  I am a distant cousin.  I wonder if an expert on the Jewish community in France is able to find traces of the following Hirsch family in Paris?

Márton Hirsch was born 29 May 1889 in Mező-Szilvás, Kolozs, Hungary (that town is now Silivașu de Câmpie, Romania).
His wife Rózsa Róth was born 19 July 1892 in Lőcse, Szepes, Hungary.
They married in 1921 in Budapest and had a daughter whose name is unknown.  She married in Hungary.

Many years ago a cousin wrote that these four survived the Holocaust, and were later living in Paris.

Thank you,
Asaf Plan


Re: JewishGen announces "The Weekly News Nosh"...a weekly e-newsletter from JewishGen.org #announcements #JewishGenUpdates

Dan Nussbaum
 

How can I be sure I will receive The Weekly News Nosh?

Daniel Nussbaum II, M.D., FAAP
Retired Developmental Pediatrician
Rochester, New York
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yekkey@...
 
Tone can be misinterpreted in email. Please read my words with warmth, kindness, and good intentions.

Searching for;
Nussbaum, Katzenstein, Mannheimer and Goldschmidt; Rhina, Raboldshausen and Bad Hersfeld, Germany
Teplitzky, Bendersky and Kaszkiet; Uman, Ukraine
Rosenthal and S(c)henk(el)man; Zinkov, Ukraine
Bild and Kashlevsky; anywhere


Re: Seeking Katzenellenbogens #belarus

Dan Nussbaum
 

Some Katzenellenbogens changed their surname to Nelson.

Daniel Nussbaum II, M.D., FAAP
Retired Developmental Pediatrician
Rochester, New York
xey, xem, xeir
yekkey@...
 
Tone can be misinterpreted in email. Please read my words with warmth, kindness, and good intentions.

Searching for;
Nussbaum, Katzenstein, Mannheimer and Goldschmidt; Rhina, Raboldshausen and Bad Hersfeld, Germany
Teplitzky, Bendersky and Kaszkiet; Uman, Ukraine
Rosenthal and S(c)henk(el)man; Zinkov, Ukraine
Bild and Kashlevsky; anywhere


Re: Seeking Katzenellenbogens #belarus

Deb Katz
 

I was absolutely aware of your excellent study, Jeffrey, and that is why I emphasized that I was equally if not more interested in Katzenellenbogens who did not have a tradition of patrilineal descent from the Maharam, since your study makes it pretty likely that if they do, they are going to be in J1 (L823) and I'm looking for a J2a line. Indeed, I have referred many folks who have responded to my post to your very same study.   BTW, I'm running into a lot of those E-M35-Y6923 Katzenellenbogens in this process...there's a story there to be sure! (-;

I'll be very interested, however, to see the BigY results when you have them and to what degree they add nuance to your conclusions re the Katzenellenbogen signature...although I'm quite aware that the haplogroup branch J1-L823 will not change! (-;

Thanks again for your reply!

Deb Katz
dnadeb@...


Re: Female names Gussie and Sadie #names

robinson@...
 

My great aunt's name was Golde, but she was always called Gussie. Her aunt was also Golde/Gussie.
Sherry Robinson
Albuquerque, NM


Re: Seeking Katzenellenbogens #belarus

Jeffrey Mark Paull
 

Hi Debra,

You may be interested in taking a peek at my Y-DNA research study: "The Y-DNA Genetic Signature and Ethnic Origin of the Katzenellenbogen Rabbinical Lineage," in which my research team identified the Y-DNA genetic signature of the patrilineal line descending from Rabbi Meir Katzenellenbogen.  In that study, we also discovered that the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical line has a Sephardic ethnic origin. 

A Notable Connection profile which I drafted for the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical lineage, presenting its terminal SNP and haplogroup age, will soon be added to FTDNA's Discovery tools.   Here is a link to the original Y-DNA research study: https://tinyurl.com/3anz5b9s.  An updated study will be posted to Academia.edu as soon as all Big Y-700 tests are completed.

Kindest and best regards,

Jeffrey Mark Paull
jmpaull@...


Re: Ohayon family from Morocco #sephardic

Sarina Roffe
 

Shimon Ohayon is head of the Dahan Center at Bar Ilan University
why not reach out to him?

Sarina Roffe
New York


Re: Tracking Down an Arsonist #general #usa

Lisa Bracco
 

There is also an article about him in the NY Times.  I did the same search Sherri did.  I am attaching a copy below.

Lisa Bracco

Searching:  Glowatz, Glowacz, Myszne, Chodakiewicz (Nowogrod, Ostrolenka, Ostrow Mazowiecka--Poland)
Goldhammer, Bader, Beder (Kossow, Zablotow--Galicia, now Ukraine)
Kronberg, Charmatz, Weiser (Galati, Braila--Romania)


Re: Female names Gussie and Sadie #names

Marcel Apsel
 

About 100-120  years ago I had some Gussie’s and Sadie’s in my family in New York.  Their Jewish names were Gittel and Sara.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


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Re: Female names Gussie and Sadie #names

Avraham Groll
 
Edited

My great-grandmother was Augusta (Gussie). Her hebrew name was Esther.

Avraham Groll
New York, NY


JewishGen Sponsor of IAJGS Virtual Conference #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll
 

Dear JewishGen Community,

JewishGen is a major sponsor of next month's Annual International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) Conference. The conference offers unique opportunities to investigate and learn from experts in dozens of subjects, and we are proud to support so many of our speakers and presentations.

What excites your research? Networking? Poland? DNA? Civil War Jewish soldiers? Writing your family’s saga? Beginner sessions? Whichever topic propels your genealogy journey – this year’s IAJGS Virtual Conference has a presentation for you! Speakers are from over 14 countries and will give over 150 presentations on a broad gamut of subjects.

Here’s a sampling of some of the sessions which are sponsored by JewishGen and our leaders

  • JewishGen.org 2022 Annual Meeting: Exciting Changes, Features, and Movement - Avraham Groll
  • JewishGen.org - Opportunities to Volunteer - Avraham Groll           
  • JewishGen.org: All the Details - Avraham Groll 
  • JewishGen.org: Leave No Stone Unturned  - Debbie Kroopkin
  • Deep Dive into Romanian Records – Michael Moritz
  • Exploring Jewish Families Found in DAR.org Genealogy Resources - Ellen Kowitt
  • Slovakiana - An Online Resource for Jewish Researchers - Vivian Kahn
  • What’s in a Name? Finding Your Ancestors' "Original" Names - Michael Moritz
  • What’s New in Austrian and Czech Jewish Genealogy - E Randol Schoenberg

And of course there are all of the JewishGen Location Special Interest Group (SIG) Meetings including

  • Austria-Czech
  • Belarus
  • BialyGen
  • Danzig-Gdansk
  • Germany
  • Hungary
  • Latvia
  • Romania
  • South Africa
  • Sub-Carpathia
  • Ukraine
  • United Kingdom
  • and the USA.

Registration starts at $99 and also includes access to a robust Exhibitor Hall, a Resource Database Library, and opportunities for translation and mentorship help. Be a part of this unparalleled educational and genealogical experience.
Learn more and register at iajgs2022.org.
 
Wishing you a wonderful weekend and Shabbat Shalom.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen


Re: Internal "passports" in the Russian Empire pre-1900? #russia #lithuania #records

Jean Lachaud
 

"Internal passports" necessary to travel within the Russian empire are widely mentioned in XIXth-century literature.

I've always viewed them as simply some sort of Government [the imperial kind]-issued ID with an unusual name.

The Soviet Union (you mention the interwar period) did not invent much in terms of police. It simply recycled the Empire's institutions, such as prison camps in Siberia, the secret police, etc., with different names.

Jean Lachaud
Westchester County, NY


Decendants of Leibuscz and Sheindal Roth of Sanok-part 2 #poland

phyllis roth
 

Looking for descendants of Leib (Leibuscz) and Sheindal Roth of Sanok, including

Mechel Roth (d. Germany) + Anna Keitelman  (Anna was married first to samuel rotter)---- Would like to find any relatives of Samuel
Berisch Roth+
Chana Rivke (nee Roth) and Haim Schahcner: Some decendants made it to israel
Tema Rosenzweig (nee Roth) and Selig Rosenzweig-- Trying to find what happen to Zelig and any of their children
Jozef Roth and Hencze Alster--Had 3 children, Sara Willner, Berta/ Beila PELED or FELD??? Not sure.   Sara and Berta ended up in Israel.  Sara Willner had 2 children Jacob and Shoshana.
Ruchla ?????  Last name was either Penner, Genner although have not been able to find anything about this branch.
Beila Roth + Ovadia Kalter (from Rzeszow):  descendants ended up in Israel

Thanks so much.

Phyllis Roth


JGSLI Program August 10, 2022 Patronymic Naming and the Value of Cemetery Research sponsored by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Long Island Posted by Barry Goldberg #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Barry Goldberg
 

JGSLI Invites you to the following program:

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When: Wednesday, August 10, 2022, 7:00 PM

 

Location: Zoom – see registration info below 

Topic:

Patronymic Naming and the Value of Cemetery Research

Nolan Altman

Headstone inscriptions provide one of the most important tools for those researching their Jewish genealogical history, patronymic naming. This presentation will familiarize the attendees with the evolution of family surnames and the practice of patronymic naming. Recognizing the components of patronymic naming, participants will learn how to take advantage of these clues to link their family through generations. I will go through an actual case study using headstone inscriptions and will show participants online resources to help find headstone information worldwide. The next part of the presentation will show examples of headstones and what you’ll find if you take a trip to the cemetery. I’ll explain the meaning of symbols that you will find on stones. Even if you can’t read Hebrew, I will explain how you can understand the inscriptions. I will also show many examples of inscription trends, some odd inscriptions, and errors in inscriptions…even well-known ones. With a presentation on cemetery records, you wouldn’t expect to leave laughing, but I guaranty you will.

 

Nolan was bit by the “genealogy bug” when he was inspired to write his family history in 1996 in memory of his mother. He has presented his “How to Document and Research Your Family History” seminar to university Holocaust history classes and numerous adult and continuing education classes. He has also made presentations and conducted computer workshops at numerous IAJGS Conferences on Jewish Genealogy worldwide. He has had genealogical articles published in Avotaynu, Dorot, Stammbaum, Shemot and the FEEFHS Journal. Mr. Altman also coordinates JewishGen.org's JOWBR, Holocaust, and Memorial Plaques Databases. He was a past president and treasurer and current Board member of the JGS of Long Island and member of the JGS of New York. In 2021, Mr Altman was awarded the IAJGS Lifetime Achievement award for his continuing efforts to promote, volunteer and advocate for Jewish genealogical research. He resides in Oceanside, New York.

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 To Register for the Zoom meetinghttps://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZ0lf-ugpjsjE9y_sQui26rqdImksnv3rd5t
After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.  

 

We look forward to seeing you all!

 


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #belarus #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake
 

Yizkor book chapters that recount the details of daily life in the shtetls make for a pendulum that swings between gauzy remembrances of the joys of life there to testimonies to the widespread poverty, unsanitary conditions, muddy streets and families squeezed into small wooden houses.
Conditions could also vary by the period a writer is describing. Mendl Machtev puts his finger on this in “Sixty Years Ago,” a chapter from the Yizkor book of Stowbtsy (Belarus).
“One cannot compare life in the shtetl in the years 1930-1940 [to] the simple, primitive life of a provincial Polish-Russian shtetl at the end of the19th century and the beginning of the 20th century,” he writes.
Machtev recreates a portrait of Stowbtsy in those earlier times. Unpaved streets, some full of mud and stagnant pools of water; the shabbily-built houses of poor people not built for the cold winters; and, the lack of good well water in some parts of town that meant an average home owner had to find a suitable well, fill a small barrel with sufficient water for a whole day and carry it home himself.
But this chapter does not read as a lament or cry of woe: it is a remembrance of how people coped and did their best to go on with life. What drew me to it was how well it captures Stowbtsy during the period the writer describes. It is worth reading for its details which make you feel that you are there.
 
 

--
Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: Female names Gussie and Sadie #names

GRAHAM LEWIS
 

My grandmother Augusta, generally known as Gussie b.1898 in England to parents from Poland, was Gisha.
On the other hand, Augusta's aunt Gusta (b.1875 in Poland) was Gittel in her marriage auth and Gisha on her USA death record.
Graham Lewis
London UK


Re: Seeking Katzenellenbogens #belarus

Robert Weinberg <weinberg@...>
 

You might try Prof. John Katzenellenbogen at the Univ of Illinois jkatzene@...
Also, some Katzenellenbogens have shortened their name simply to Ellenbogen.
Bob Weinberg, Brookline MA


Re: Deciphering an occupation on the 1901 UK census #unitedkingdom

Susan J. Gordon
 

Hmmm, Yes, Yehoshua may be correct! However, it would also help if Terry captured a few more lines on the census. Sometimes, I've figured out almost unreadable words by seeing them (or parts of them) appear in later entries on the same list. The same census takers' handwriting can differ from line to line. Good luck!

Susan
Susan J Gordon
New York