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Re: Korets area #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

On 01-08-02 Marcia Rosenblatt Weisbrod asked about "Choppe," "Rogoshav" and
also a shtetl or town spoken of by relatives as "Dorf." Perhaps "Dorf," was
a corruption of the name "Dovsk" which is east of "Rogatchov" (Rogachev) and
south of Mogilev.

I'm stumped about "Choppe" although Ms. Weisbrod says she has located it.
But then I've not made a attempt to find it.

For Rogachev at least Ms. Weisbrod should do a search in Jewishgen's
Discussion Group Archives and Family Finder, and even a search using the the
"Search This Website" utility at Jewishgen's main page. What she finds may
give her hints about the other villages about which she is curious.

It may be that her relatives migrated >from Choppe, Rogachev and Dorf (or
Dovsk) to the Korets area which is nearer Kiev, possibly because they hoped
to find there some means of bettering their lives.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Korets area #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

On 01-08-02 Marcia Rosenblatt Weisbrod asked about "Choppe," "Rogoshav" and
also a shtetl or town spoken of by relatives as "Dorf." Perhaps "Dorf," was
a corruption of the name "Dovsk" which is east of "Rogatchov" (Rogachev) and
south of Mogilev.

I'm stumped about "Choppe" although Ms. Weisbrod says she has located it.
But then I've not made a attempt to find it.

For Rogachev at least Ms. Weisbrod should do a search in Jewishgen's
Discussion Group Archives and Family Finder, and even a search using the the
"Search This Website" utility at Jewishgen's main page. What she finds may
give her hints about the other villages about which she is curious.

It may be that her relatives migrated >from Choppe, Rogachev and Dorf (or
Dovsk) to the Korets area which is nearer Kiev, possibly because they hoped
to find there some means of bettering their lives.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Re: Looking for Ancestors #romania

CLAUSSEN DAN and DIANE <didado@...>
 

On 1/13/02 a message appeared >from "Chaim" but signed by Judi Emmett. some
of the text is reproduced below. I wrote to her privately and got an
"undeliverable" message back for the email that is listed below her name.
The message said the "recipient's name is unrecognized".

So, I am posting a brief note to say that I am looking for an EPSTEIN that
may be linked to the SHPARAGO family, sibling of Edith SHPARAGO >from Dubova,
Ukraine that married EPSTEIN. If Judi reads this posting and knows of any
SHPARAGOS in her family, please let me know privately.

Also, the place which Judi listed for grandfather's shtetl is probably
Zhitomir. I am sure many in the SIG may have written her, but Judi may not
have gotten this information with email address problems. It is easy to
find out information about Zhitomir at the Jewishgen.org website and in
Miriam Weiner's book: Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova.

Judi wrote:
<I am looking for information on my family
EPSTEIN, JAKOBSON
The family lived towards the end of the 19th century the Epsteins lived in
amongst other places in Shtutshin (Szczuczyn) now in Belarus"
"My great grandparent Yitzchok POPECK was apparently >from a place called
Zhetomir in the Ukraine
Judi Emmett
Bet Shemesh Israel
realife@... >



-diane,daniel, and the dogs....still howling at the moon-
didado@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Looking for Ancestors #ukraine

CLAUSSEN DAN and DIANE <didado@...>
 

On 1/13/02 a message appeared >from "Chaim" but signed by Judi Emmett. some
of the text is reproduced below. I wrote to her privately and got an
"undeliverable" message back for the email that is listed below her name.
The message said the "recipient's name is unrecognized".

So, I am posting a brief note to say that I am looking for an EPSTEIN that
may be linked to the SHPARAGO family, sibling of Edith SHPARAGO >from Dubova,
Ukraine that married EPSTEIN. If Judi reads this posting and knows of any
SHPARAGOS in her family, please let me know privately.

Also, the place which Judi listed for grandfather's shtetl is probably
Zhitomir. I am sure many in the SIG may have written her, but Judi may not
have gotten this information with email address problems. It is easy to
find out information about Zhitomir at the Jewishgen.org website and in
Miriam Weiner's book: Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova.

Judi wrote:
<I am looking for information on my family
EPSTEIN, JAKOBSON
The family lived towards the end of the 19th century the Epsteins lived in
amongst other places in Shtutshin (Szczuczyn) now in Belarus"
"My great grandparent Yitzchok POPECK was apparently >from a place called
Zhetomir in the Ukraine
Judi Emmett
Bet Shemesh Israel
realife@... >



-diane,daniel, and the dogs....still howling at the moon-
didado@...


Frida Rabinovici - Australia 1920's #general

Monica and Ariel Talmor <mtalmor@...>
 

I have posted this problem here several years ago with no resulting leads,
and I'm trying again now in the hope that the larger membership might
help. My father's cousin, Frida Rabinovici, left Romania and went to
Australia to work for the Jewish Colonization Association in the 1920's,
possibly via Paris. She was not heard of again, at least not by the family
members my father was in contact with. I am trying to find her family, a
task even more difficult because I don't have her married name, if she was
ever married, and I don't know where in Australia she lived. I suppose
it's possible she never even reached Australia, but I'm just assuming that
she did.

I have finally reached the JCA archives in Jerusalem, and was told that
they have nothing on Australian activities. I have looked at all the Frida
Rabinovici's in the FTJP, with all the possible spellings, and have
contacted possible matches. The only possible match, by name and
approximate birth date, is such a distant relative of the person
submitting the data that he knows nothing more about her other than her
name. Here are some general questions for anyone who might know: to what
part of Australia was the JCA sending workers in the 1920's? If I had an
idea I might try to contact cemeteries or synagogues. How can I search for
any trace of a woman if I only have her maiden name (as well as her
parents' and one sibling, all of whom remained in Romania). Was there an
accident with an Australian bound ship which might explain why she was not
heard >from again? Can civil records be searched in Australia for the whole
country? I saw on line that the Australian Jewish Historical Society has a
microfilm of many such records, but where would I start: a marriage
record, a naturalization record, a death record? What would have most
chances for a find with only a maiden name? Frida's parents were Samuel
and Rashela (Rachel) Rabinovici, and she had a sister Zuzi (nickname for
Suzana, Shoshana, or any name starting with S or Z) and one more unknown
sibling. Do Jewish gravestones in Australia include the father's name,
like most of them would in Europe or in the US? I'm thinking of looking at
the Cemetery Project CD for Frida bat Shmuel, is that a good idea? This is
a real needle in a haystack, but miracles have happened on JewishGen, so
I'm hoping for one here.

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


New to this list. Researching... (more) #general

Rammsm
 

Note: All immigrated to the USA in early 1900s to 1920s

Froim FELIX >from Iasi area of Romania (Sephardic??) married Malka KROLL
(possibly KROLIKOVSKI?) >from Minsk area of Russia

Mayer LANG >from Romania and Quebec married Sophie Bertha WEINMAN
(VINERMAN?) >from Lithuania and Quebec

Nathan WEINMAN (VINERMAN?) >from Lituania married Rachel MONTE
(MONTEFELESCO?) >from Lithuania

Max MALTZ >from Poland married Jennie LIEBERMAN >from Poland then Sadie
HOROWITZ >from Ukraine

Sarah FOX >from Ireland married Harris GOLDMAN >from ??? Ireland

Ruth Moltz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Frida Rabinovici - Australia 1920's #general

Monica and Ariel Talmor <mtalmor@...>
 

I have posted this problem here several years ago with no resulting leads,
and I'm trying again now in the hope that the larger membership might
help. My father's cousin, Frida Rabinovici, left Romania and went to
Australia to work for the Jewish Colonization Association in the 1920's,
possibly via Paris. She was not heard of again, at least not by the family
members my father was in contact with. I am trying to find her family, a
task even more difficult because I don't have her married name, if she was
ever married, and I don't know where in Australia she lived. I suppose
it's possible she never even reached Australia, but I'm just assuming that
she did.

I have finally reached the JCA archives in Jerusalem, and was told that
they have nothing on Australian activities. I have looked at all the Frida
Rabinovici's in the FTJP, with all the possible spellings, and have
contacted possible matches. The only possible match, by name and
approximate birth date, is such a distant relative of the person
submitting the data that he knows nothing more about her other than her
name. Here are some general questions for anyone who might know: to what
part of Australia was the JCA sending workers in the 1920's? If I had an
idea I might try to contact cemeteries or synagogues. How can I search for
any trace of a woman if I only have her maiden name (as well as her
parents' and one sibling, all of whom remained in Romania). Was there an
accident with an Australian bound ship which might explain why she was not
heard >from again? Can civil records be searched in Australia for the whole
country? I saw on line that the Australian Jewish Historical Society has a
microfilm of many such records, but where would I start: a marriage
record, a naturalization record, a death record? What would have most
chances for a find with only a maiden name? Frida's parents were Samuel
and Rashela (Rachel) Rabinovici, and she had a sister Zuzi (nickname for
Suzana, Shoshana, or any name starting with S or Z) and one more unknown
sibling. Do Jewish gravestones in Australia include the father's name,
like most of them would in Europe or in the US? I'm thinking of looking at
the Cemetery Project CD for Frida bat Shmuel, is that a good idea? This is
a real needle in a haystack, but miracles have happened on JewishGen, so
I'm hoping for one here.

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New to this list. Researching... (more) #general

Rammsm
 

Note: All immigrated to the USA in early 1900s to 1920s

Froim FELIX >from Iasi area of Romania (Sephardic??) married Malka KROLL
(possibly KROLIKOVSKI?) >from Minsk area of Russia

Mayer LANG >from Romania and Quebec married Sophie Bertha WEINMAN
(VINERMAN?) >from Lithuania and Quebec

Nathan WEINMAN (VINERMAN?) >from Lituania married Rachel MONTE
(MONTEFELESCO?) >from Lithuania

Max MALTZ >from Poland married Jennie LIEBERMAN >from Poland then Sadie
HOROWITZ >from Ukraine

Sarah FOX >from Ireland married Harris GOLDMAN >from ??? Ireland

Ruth Moltz


Re: Bacsava again #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

I have just used the "Google" search engine to find Mr. Schwartz's
"Bacsava." It seems that there is such a town. It is in Hungary and it is not
as I had suggested earlier, Bekascaba.

Bacsava is in the Szekhely district. See:

http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g162.shtml

About the possibility of finding genealogical records in Hungary by
writing or by making telephone calls, I am ignorant. So Mr. Schwartz should
search at Jewishgen for Hungarian researchers who may be able to help him.
If Jewishgenners with Hungarian ancestry can't help then he should poke
around the Internet for a Hungarian Genealogical Society to which he could
write.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Bacsava again #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

I have just used the "Google" search engine to find Mr. Schwartz's
"Bacsava." It seems that there is such a town. It is in Hungary and it is not
as I had suggested earlier, Bekascaba.

Bacsava is in the Szekhely district. See:

http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g162.shtml

About the possibility of finding genealogical records in Hungary by
writing or by making telephone calls, I am ignorant. So Mr. Schwartz should
search at Jewishgen for Hungarian researchers who may be able to help him.
If Jewishgenners with Hungarian ancestry can't help then he should poke
around the Internet for a Hungarian Genealogical Society to which he could
write.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


looking for family in Cuba #latinamerica

mendy mayberg <mendy26@...>
 

I am researching the family name "LOBO" and "PELIAS(Z)" >from Havana, Cuba,
circa four generations ago and beyond. I am trying to find out about
those family's Jewish roots and and their history. If anyone has any
information please contact me at

Mendy26@...
Thank You
Menachem Mayberg

MODERATOR NOTE: Please take the most important first step of listing
these surnames in the JewishGen Family Finder
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff You will find that others are searching
LOBO, but you would be the first to enter the name PELIAS(Z).


Latin America #LatinAmerica looking for family in Cuba #latinamerica

mendy mayberg <mendy26@...>
 

I am researching the family name "LOBO" and "PELIAS(Z)" >from Havana, Cuba,
circa four generations ago and beyond. I am trying to find out about
those family's Jewish roots and and their history. If anyone has any
information please contact me at

Mendy26@...
Thank You
Menachem Mayberg

MODERATOR NOTE: Please take the most important first step of listing
these surnames in the JewishGen Family Finder
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff You will find that others are searching
LOBO, but you would be the first to enter the name PELIAS(Z).


Re: Dobke/Dubke = Devorah? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 1/18/2002 10:34:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bernie06@... writes:

<< my grandmother's name appears (Dobke GLINKA) on Ellis Island
in 1913 on her passenger arrival >from Rajgrod, Poland. Her
Americanized/secular name was Dorothy GLINKY.
==A woman named Dvorah in Hebrew could have any other name in any other
language. One starting with a D is most likely. However, Dobke doesn't
sound quite right to my ears as being derived >from Dvorah. I would rather
suspect she had the Yiddish name Gitte(l) or its Hebrew equivalent Tovah,
and this was translated into Polish--I once learned that the Polish
for "good" is Dobzhe (am I right? spelling?). Dorothy, like Dore, come
from the original Dorothea.
Also, after immigration, the surname somehow got changed >from GLINKA to
GLINKY. >>
==My guess is that the original ending with KA was too "polish" in America.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dobke/Dubke = Devorah? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 1/18/2002 10:34:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bernie06@... writes:

<< my grandmother's name appears (Dobke GLINKA) on Ellis Island
in 1913 on her passenger arrival >from Rajgrod, Poland. Her
Americanized/secular name was Dorothy GLINKY.
==A woman named Dvorah in Hebrew could have any other name in any other
language. One starting with a D is most likely. However, Dobke doesn't
sound quite right to my ears as being derived >from Dvorah. I would rather
suspect she had the Yiddish name Gitte(l) or its Hebrew equivalent Tovah,
and this was translated into Polish--I once learned that the Polish
for "good" is Dobzhe (am I right? spelling?). Dorothy, like Dore, come
from the original Dorothea.
Also, after immigration, the surname somehow got changed >from GLINKA to
GLINKY. >>
==My guess is that the original ending with KA was too "polish" in America.

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Smiltene #latvia

SVass@...
 

In a message dated 1/17/02 10:20:03 PM, Barry Mandell writes:
<< I am finding it very difficult to find any information on Smiltene. Can
any one help?? >>
Barry
What kind of information are you seeking? My mother, Minna, and her siblings
were born to Jankel (Jakob) BLANKFELD and Hasse MELAMED between 1900 and 1910
in Smiltene. Their immediate ancestors emigrated >from Shavli through Trishik
and Krustpils. Jacob's sister married a Yussel KAROL.

from a 1929 German travel guide to Latvia titled Fuhrer durch Lettland
(947.43E6L in Salt Lake)-
Station Smilten, terminal of the narrow-gauge railway
Wolmar(Valmera)-Smilten, 32 km >from Wolmar. Castle of the Archbishop of
Riga and settlement in the 14th century. Destroyed by the Russians in 1560
and a new Nordic settlement is destroyed by the Russians in 1702. In 1882,
the town is developed and receives city rights in 1920. 3251 inhabitants, 20
Germans.
Trade-Flax, Wood, Wool, Weaving Lies picturesque on the banks of the Abbul.
The ring walls of the castle are well preserved. The earlier palace, a
property of Prince Lieven, is now a milk?? (milchwirtschaftsschule und landw.
Zuchstation) and breeding station.

Emigrants >from Smiltene to US:
Blankfeld,Shmuel Smiltene, Latvia 1922 16y Isidor Bronstein (uncle in
Chicago)
Karol,Jenie Smiltene, Latvia 1922 25y Wolf Bloch (uncle in Escanaba,,Mich)
Karol,Pauline Smiltene, Latvia 1922 19y
Markus,Leuba Smilten, Latvia 1923 38y
Chmel,Zelda Smilten, Russia 1914 23y
Gleser,Hirsch Smilten, Latvia 1922 16y
Gleser,Moshe Smilten, Latvia 1922 13y
Gleser,Sore Smilten, Latvia 1922 34y
Goldfuss,Klara Smilten, Lifland 1908 17y
Jonelowitz,Don Smilten 1904 18y
Melamed, Judel Smilten 1890 20y >from Hamburg to Chicago
Rosengarten,Walter Smilten, Russia 1913 19y
Rubin,Anna Smilten, Latvia 1923 37y
Rubin,Haina Smilten, Latavia 1923 4y
Rubin,Juda Smilten, Latvia 1923 11y
Rubin,Scholem Smilten, Latvia 1923 9y
Rubin,Zelma Smilten, Latavia 1923 4y
Zitron,Juda Smilten, Latvia 1923 30y
Zitron,Michla Smilten, Latavia 1923 63y
Zitron,Paula Smilten, Latvia 1923 29y
Zitron,Scholem Smilten 1907 19y
Zitron,Shmuel Smilten, Latvia 1923 23y

Sam Vass
Kent, Washington, USA

Moderator Note:
Sam it is very generous of you to
provide this inforamtion which
should be of inestimable value
to Smiltene researchers.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Smiltene #latvia

SVass@...
 

In a message dated 1/17/02 10:20:03 PM, Barry Mandell writes:
<< I am finding it very difficult to find any information on Smiltene. Can
any one help?? >>
Barry
What kind of information are you seeking? My mother, Minna, and her siblings
were born to Jankel (Jakob) BLANKFELD and Hasse MELAMED between 1900 and 1910
in Smiltene. Their immediate ancestors emigrated >from Shavli through Trishik
and Krustpils. Jacob's sister married a Yussel KAROL.

from a 1929 German travel guide to Latvia titled Fuhrer durch Lettland
(947.43E6L in Salt Lake)-
Station Smilten, terminal of the narrow-gauge railway
Wolmar(Valmera)-Smilten, 32 km >from Wolmar. Castle of the Archbishop of
Riga and settlement in the 14th century. Destroyed by the Russians in 1560
and a new Nordic settlement is destroyed by the Russians in 1702. In 1882,
the town is developed and receives city rights in 1920. 3251 inhabitants, 20
Germans.
Trade-Flax, Wood, Wool, Weaving Lies picturesque on the banks of the Abbul.
The ring walls of the castle are well preserved. The earlier palace, a
property of Prince Lieven, is now a milk?? (milchwirtschaftsschule und landw.
Zuchstation) and breeding station.

Emigrants >from Smiltene to US:
Blankfeld,Shmuel Smiltene, Latvia 1922 16y Isidor Bronstein (uncle in
Chicago)
Karol,Jenie Smiltene, Latvia 1922 25y Wolf Bloch (uncle in Escanaba,,Mich)
Karol,Pauline Smiltene, Latvia 1922 19y
Markus,Leuba Smilten, Latvia 1923 38y
Chmel,Zelda Smilten, Russia 1914 23y
Gleser,Hirsch Smilten, Latvia 1922 16y
Gleser,Moshe Smilten, Latvia 1922 13y
Gleser,Sore Smilten, Latvia 1922 34y
Goldfuss,Klara Smilten, Lifland 1908 17y
Jonelowitz,Don Smilten 1904 18y
Melamed, Judel Smilten 1890 20y >from Hamburg to Chicago
Rosengarten,Walter Smilten, Russia 1913 19y
Rubin,Anna Smilten, Latvia 1923 37y
Rubin,Haina Smilten, Latavia 1923 4y
Rubin,Juda Smilten, Latvia 1923 11y
Rubin,Scholem Smilten, Latvia 1923 9y
Rubin,Zelma Smilten, Latavia 1923 4y
Zitron,Juda Smilten, Latvia 1923 30y
Zitron,Michla Smilten, Latavia 1923 63y
Zitron,Paula Smilten, Latvia 1923 29y
Zitron,Scholem Smilten 1907 19y
Zitron,Shmuel Smilten, Latvia 1923 23y

Sam Vass
Kent, Washington, USA

Moderator Note:
Sam it is very generous of you to
provide this inforamtion which
should be of inestimable value
to Smiltene researchers.


New York, around 1951 #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

My mother's cousin, Maier BRODA, came to the USA around 1951, to New
York. He was born on 1 January 1899, in Zarki, Poland (near Czestochowa).
I don't find his name in the Social Security Death Index.

Does anyone know of such a person name BRODA?

Does anyone in New York know of a way to track down this person?

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow--Krakow??
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, and ZYLBERBERG
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York, around 1951 #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

My mother's cousin, Maier BRODA, came to the USA around 1951, to New
York. He was born on 1 January 1899, in Zarki, Poland (near Czestochowa).
I don't find his name in the Social Security Death Index.

Does anyone know of such a person name BRODA?

Does anyone in New York know of a way to track down this person?

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow--Krakow??
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, and ZYLBERBERG
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Rose BLOOM / TAIBLUM #general

Andee <msscuba@...>
 

I received the 19241 Declaration of Intent >from Brooklyn for a woman
named Rose BLOOM/Taiblum, born 11/14/1896 in Warsaw, Poland. Although
she has the same name as a great aunt I am looking for, this woman is
not our Rose BLOOM. I would like to offer these papers to anyone who
might be related to this Rose BLOOM.

She stated that she emigrated to America >from Rotterdam, Holland, on
board the Mongolia and arrived in NY on 1/20/1921. She is listed on the
EIDB under the name of Taiblum. As of the Declaration is is 24 years
old, single and a operator, living at 327 Riverdale Ave.

Andrea Shafer Weinberg
Houston, TX

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: Pultusk Area Interest Group-Update-Necrology Release #general

SBernst579@...
 

In a message dated 1/18/02 9:34:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, paulh2@...
writes:

<< The necrology list for Pultusk does not list Szyfra Borenstein &
children, but the list for Makow Mazowiecki does. In that list she is
listed with her husband Michael who died before the war began. They
owned a mill in Pultusk. She was the mother of Gershon Berenstein who
presently lives in Israel and was thought dead until he reappeared after
being lost. He lived in Pultusk until the war started and went back
there last year.
Why should the family be listed in the wrong necrology?
Paul Silverstone >>


Paul

I will attempt to address your questions to the best of my ability.

When I first undertook the Necrology translation project, I expected there
to be some changes that would be requested after the project was
completed, due to a number of factors. I always had in mind to make any
credible changes requested by parties whose relatives were or were not
listed in the Necrology.

I will request a Yiddish reading member of our group, who possess a copy
of the Yizkor Book, to verify that Szyfra BORENSTEIN & children are/or are
not listed in the Necrology. The name Bernstein if listed, would appear on
page 637 of the Yizkor Book. If any member of the Pultusk group that could
check the Yizkor Book for that entry , I would greatly appreciate it. Why
Szyfra BORENSTEIN is listed in the Makow Mazowiecki Necrology, I wouldn't
know, perhaps she lived in Makow Makow Mazowieck previous to her marriage,
and someone requested that she be remembered in their Necrology. In any
case, I will do whatever is necessary to correct any errors in our
Necrology. In addition, I have no problem with adding to the Necrology, a
requested family name, if it fits the criteria of the of the Pultusk
Association, who published the book, meaning those souls murdered before
or during the war. There is a much larger Necrology in the Yizkor Book
devoted to Pultusk residents who passed away >from causes other than those
inflicted by the Germans or their Allies.

Has Gershon Bernstein verified that Szyfra was indeed a resident of
Pultusk?

Paul, on a side note, I have met Annette Weber last year, who lives in New
Jersey. Annette is a Bernstein descendant, whose family was >from Pultusk.
I believe she told me that her family owned a mill there. Do you know her?
I met her through an amazing coincidence, a member of her family works at
a company in New York with a member of the Niestempower family, whom were
also >from Pultusk. My grandfather Issik Niestempower (born in Pultusk and
immigrated in 1906), took the name Bernstein in the U.S., due to the fact
that his cousins >from Pultusk, who immigrated earlier, were named
Bernstein (or some derivative name), and he felt it would be easier to
assimilate with the name Bernstein. By the way, many of these cousins
shortened their name to Berns. With all this information between us, there
must be a connection that we can jointly unravel.

I would like to speak to you by phone, if you are in agreement, please
send me your number and a good time to reach you.

Stewart Bernstein

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