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Re: "Obadiah?" -> Edward #general

NFatouros@...
 

During the past twenty four hours,I have been poring over JRI-PL's new
listing of records for the town or village of Shcherets, in the hope of
finding records for my paternal grandparents, Ester SCHUTZ FELDMAN and her
husband Nahum FELDMAN ( who, as I discovered, was listed in the records
as Nachman FELDMANN) and their four children.

I didn't find Ester's birth records because she was born before the date
of the earliest extant birth records for Shcherets. I didn't find Ester's
marriage record in Shcherets (or in any nearby town) nor did I find the
birth record of their oldest child, a son whose given name was entered on
his ship identity card as Manes. (At the JRI-PL I found a Mendel born to
an Ester SCHUTZ but this Mendel's father was a SOLOMON. I doubt that this
Mendel was my oldest Uncle Manus who was called in the US simply "Max."
Max resembled my father too greatly to have been conceived by another
father.) But maybe I have misread the listings.

But I did find the birth records of my father, "Chaim Eisig" his sister
"Jenty Sara" and the younger of his two brothers, who had been listed in
his ship identity card as "Yossl."

I was puzzled over the birth entry for my uncle Joseph. His given names
were entered as "Owadja Josef." I realized at once that Owadja must be a
form of Obadiah, or Ovadia, but I wondered to what name he or his parents
may have "americanized" it.

As part of a short thread on the name "Obadiah," Joseph Ash, in his
Jewishgen message of April 8, 2001, wrote that "Edward would be a possible
replacement." Finding this message in the Discussion Group Archives
helped me answer why my uncle Joseph's WWI army records showed him as "Joseph E.."

I had thought the "E." might stand for "Edward" especially because my
late older brother. who changed his given names (Joseph Mordechai) and
surname, first to Joseph Edward FELDMAN, then to Joseph E. FULTON and
finally to Geoffrey Edmont FULTON.

Now I know that the Edward of my uncle Joseph's name was the
anglicization of Obadiah.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN,
Pinsk; SHUTZ or SCHUTZ, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or
SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: RETTIG #general

NFatouros@...
 

On 8-26-99, I posted a message to Jewishgen, saying that according to my
paternal grandfather's ship manifest, he said he was going to a "cousin"
N. Rettig at 124 Attorney Street.

Yesterday while searching through the JRI-PL's listings for the town or
village of Shcherets, I discovered many RETTIGS who were born, married
and died in Shcherets and in nearby towns. I went to the EIDB to see
whether I could find any RETTIGS that might have come >from Shcherets and
found a Napthali RETTIG, who arrived in the US on the Maasdam, a year or
so before my grandfather taken the Werkendam >from Rotterdam But I
couldn't find a Napthali RETTIG in the JRI-PL database.

Now I wonder whose cousin that N.RETTIG on my grandfather's manifest
was. my grandfather's who was born in Pinsk, or my grandmother's who lived
in Shcherets? (Question is rhetorical only!)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SHUTZ or SCHUTZ, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Brooklyn Naturalization Project #general

Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
 

I was thrilled to read about the Brooklyn Naturalization Project.
I turned to it right away and found some long elusive info. about my
family's ancestors. I am sending for their records too. This is why
I support JewishGen financially - I have gotten more than my money's
worth already. I am so appreciative of all this great work. Thanks!!!

Anita Springer, Boston

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information on keeping JewishGen going, visit
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: RETTIG #general

NFatouros@...
 

On 8-26-99, I posted a message to Jewishgen, saying that according to my
paternal grandfather's ship manifest, he said he was going to a "cousin"
N. Rettig at 124 Attorney Street.

Yesterday while searching through the JRI-PL's listings for the town or
village of Shcherets, I discovered many RETTIGS who were born, married
and died in Shcherets and in nearby towns. I went to the EIDB to see
whether I could find any RETTIGS that might have come >from Shcherets and
found a Napthali RETTIG, who arrived in the US on the Maasdam, a year or
so before my grandfather taken the Werkendam >from Rotterdam But I
couldn't find a Napthali RETTIG in the JRI-PL database.

Now I wonder whose cousin that N.RETTIG on my grandfather's manifest
was. my grandfather's who was born in Pinsk, or my grandmother's who lived
in Shcherets? (Question is rhetorical only!)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SHUTZ or SCHUTZ, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn Naturalization Project #general

Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
 

I was thrilled to read about the Brooklyn Naturalization Project.
I turned to it right away and found some long elusive info. about my
family's ancestors. I am sending for their records too. This is why
I support JewishGen financially - I have gotten more than my money's
worth already. I am so appreciative of all this great work. Thanks!!!

Anita Springer, Boston

MODERATOR NOTE: Thank you for your support. For more
information on keeping JewishGen going, visit
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:"Obadiah?" -> Edward #general

NFatouros@...
 

During the past twenty four hours,I have been poring over JRI-PL's new
listing of records for the town or village of Shcherets, in the hope of
finding records for my paternal grandparents, Ester SCHUTZ FELDMAN and her
husband Nahum FELDMAN ( who, as I discovered, was listed in the records
as Nachman FELDMANN) and their four children.

I didn't find Ester's birth records because she was born before the date
of the earliest extant birth records for Shcherets. I didn't find Ester's
marriage record in Shcherets (or in any nearby town) nor did I find the
birth record of their oldest child, a son whose given name was entered on
his ship identity card as Manes. (At the JRI-PL I found a Mendel born to
an Ester SCHUTZ but this Mendel's father was a SOLOMON. I doubt that this
Mendel was my oldest Uncle Manus who was called in the US simply "Max."
Max resembled my father too greatly to have been conceived by another
father.) But maybe I have misread the listings.

But I did find the birth records of my father, "Chaim Eisig" his sister
"Jenty Sara" and the younger of his two brothers, who had been listed in
his ship identity card as "Yossl."

I was puzzled over the birth entry for my uncle Joseph. His given names
were entered as "Owadja Josef." I realized at once that Owadja must be a
form of Obadiah, or Ovadia, but I wondered to what name he or his parents
may have "americanized" it.

As part of a short thread on the name "Obadiah," Joseph Ash, in his
Jewishgen message of April 8, 2001, wrote that "Edward would be a possible
replacement." Finding this message in the Discussion Group Archives
helped me answer why my uncle Joseph's WWI army records showed him as "Joseph E.."

I had thought the "E." might stand for "Edward" especially because my
late older brother. who changed his given names (Joseph Mordechai) and
surname, first to Joseph Edward FELDMAN, then to Joseph E. FULTON and
finally to Geoffrey Edmont FULTON.

Now I know that the Edward of my uncle Joseph's name was the
anglicization of Obadiah.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN,
Pinsk; SHUTZ or SCHUTZ, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or
SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Where is Bobrce? #galicia

Beverly <bbevy@...>
 

A friend of mine has been assured that the town "Bobrce" pictured in an
old postcard is the same as the "Bobrka" both she and I are interested
in. Although I am convinced that they are not one and the same town, I
cannot find "Bobrce" on any current map, nor is there anyone searching
that town on JewishGen or Gesher Galicia.

I have found one reference in English to the town on the internet by a
Polish genealogist who somewhat unclearly places the town near Krosno and
Zmigrod in Western Galicia. He quotes >from a translation of the
Polish "Slownik Geograficzny" published between 1880 and 1902.

If anyone has an old Gazeteer or detailed atlas, would you be so kind as
to look up "Bobrce", see if a town existed with that spelling, and help us
clear up this mystery?

Many thanks in advance,

Beverly Shulster
bbevy@...
Yehud, Israel
Searching:
SCHULSTER, DONNER, LAUFER, KRIEG; Bobrka, Ukraine
SCHULSTER, WEINTRAUB; Bukaczowce, Ukraine
VAN GELDER, DE HAAFF, SPETTER, KATAN; Rotterdam

Israel Gen Society: http://www.isragen.org.il
Bobrka Shtetlinks: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Bobrka/default.htm
Bobrka Yizkor Book: http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bobrka/bobrka.html


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Where is Bobrce? #galicia

Beverly <bbevy@...>
 

A friend of mine has been assured that the town "Bobrce" pictured in an
old postcard is the same as the "Bobrka" both she and I are interested
in. Although I am convinced that they are not one and the same town, I
cannot find "Bobrce" on any current map, nor is there anyone searching
that town on JewishGen or Gesher Galicia.

I have found one reference in English to the town on the internet by a
Polish genealogist who somewhat unclearly places the town near Krosno and
Zmigrod in Western Galicia. He quotes >from a translation of the
Polish "Slownik Geograficzny" published between 1880 and 1902.

If anyone has an old Gazeteer or detailed atlas, would you be so kind as
to look up "Bobrce", see if a town existed with that spelling, and help us
clear up this mystery?

Many thanks in advance,

Beverly Shulster
bbevy@...
Yehud, Israel
Searching:
SCHULSTER, DONNER, LAUFER, KRIEG; Bobrka, Ukraine
SCHULSTER, WEINTRAUB; Bukaczowce, Ukraine
VAN GELDER, DE HAAFF, SPETTER, KATAN; Rotterdam

Israel Gen Society: http://www.isragen.org.il
Bobrka Shtetlinks: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Bobrka/default.htm
Bobrka Yizkor Book: http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bobrka/bobrka.html


Successful search in Azerbaijan Archive #general

IlyaZeldes <ilyaz@...>
 

Recently, I was lucky enough to do search in the Archive of Azerbaijan in
Baku. The search was unexpectedly successful! Not only did I receive dozens
of documents >from their files (over hundred of pages!), but it allowed a
search of a local Jewish cemetery and quite a few burials were found, some
of which I had no idea about before! Moreover, several photographs of the
burials were provided, too!
The search in archive found a file with documents about my grandfather's
will, description of his property, family lists, school records for my
uncle, etc. Photographs of tombstones provided many dates, Jewish names and
so on. I never thought that a search in such a place could be so successful.
If anyone is looking for information >from Azerbaijan and would like to hear
more detail on how to do search there, please contact me privately.
----------
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida
ILYAZ@...


Re: Narew #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

I have a scan of an ariel photo taken of the center of Narew (near
Bialystok) taken >from a baloon in about 1917. If anyone has an interest
in this location and would like the scan I can email it to you. It is
quite a large file. If you have high speed internet access such as cable
or DSL is won't be a problem.

Tilford Bartman

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Successful search in Azerbaijan Archive #general

IlyaZeldes <ilyaz@...>
 

Recently, I was lucky enough to do search in the Archive of Azerbaijan in
Baku. The search was unexpectedly successful! Not only did I receive dozens
of documents >from their files (over hundred of pages!), but it allowed a
search of a local Jewish cemetery and quite a few burials were found, some
of which I had no idea about before! Moreover, several photographs of the
burials were provided, too!
The search in archive found a file with documents about my grandfather's
will, description of his property, family lists, school records for my
uncle, etc. Photographs of tombstones provided many dates, Jewish names and
so on. I never thought that a search in such a place could be so successful.
If anyone is looking for information >from Azerbaijan and would like to hear
more detail on how to do search there, please contact me privately.
----------
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida
ILYAZ@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Narew #general

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

I have a scan of an ariel photo taken of the center of Narew (near
Bialystok) taken >from a baloon in about 1917. If anyone has an interest
in this location and would like the scan I can email it to you. It is
quite a large file. If you have high speed internet access such as cable
or DSL is won't be a problem.

Tilford Bartman

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


"Faya" as a nickname for males #lithuania

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Dear fellow Litvaks,

Has any of your heard of "Faya" as a nickname for Faivish (in a late
18th century or later Polish record)?
In Polish they were spelled Faja and Faywisz, respectively.
Thanks in advance for any response,

Norman Carp-Gordon


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Faya" as a nickname for males #lithuania

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Dear fellow Litvaks,

Has any of your heard of "Faya" as a nickname for Faivish (in a late
18th century or later Polish record)?
In Polish they were spelled Faja and Faywisz, respectively.
Thanks in advance for any response,

Norman Carp-Gordon


Plunge emigration list #lithuania

elaine cohen <elaco@...>
 

Today I emailed an Ellis Island emigration list for Plungyan/Plunge to those
members who were listed on the Plunge JGFF page. 15 were returned to me
because the email address were no longer valid. This is an excellent
reminder to all of us to keep our email addresses current on that page. If
you did not receive this list and would like one, please contact me
privately.

Happy New Year, Elaine Cohen, Los Angeles


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Plunge emigration list #lithuania

elaine cohen <elaco@...>
 

Today I emailed an Ellis Island emigration list for Plungyan/Plunge to those
members who were listed on the Plunge JGFF page. 15 were returned to me
because the email address were no longer valid. This is an excellent
reminder to all of us to keep our email addresses current on that page. If
you did not receive this list and would like one, please contact me
privately.

Happy New Year, Elaine Cohen, Los Angeles


Re: Friedman #belarus

Alice Fleischmann levitin
 

It may be interesting to you that Ted Lewis has a museum in Circleville,Ohio
where he lived as well as a park named after him. I lived in the area for
several years and was only one of a handful of Jews living there. Most of the
residents there did not know his real name or that he was Jewish. Cicleville
is a average small town about 30miles south of Columbus. To tell you the make
up of the city it has 60 protestant churches, 1 catholic church and no other
religious institutions.
Thought you might enjoy that info.
Alice Levitin
majjongmav@...
Fleischmann Kocice,Nitra Budapest
Klein Budapest
Wertheimer Nytra
Grunfeld, Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Friedman #hungary

Alice Fleischmann levitin
 

It may be interesting to you that Ted Lewis has a museum in Circleville,Ohio
where he lived as well as a park named after him. I lived in the area for
several years and was only one of a handful of Jews living there. Most of the
residents there did not know his real name or that he was Jewish. Cicleville
is a average small town about 30miles south of Columbus. To tell you the make
up of the city it has 60 protestant churches, 1 catholic church and no other
religious institutions.
Thought you might enjoy that info.
Alice Levitin
majjongmav@...
Fleischmann Kocice,Nitra Budapest
Klein Budapest
Wertheimer Nytra
Grunfeld, Budapest


The Rav from Romen #rabbinic

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

My wife's gggfather, Rabbi Ya'akov Berish, was known as the Rav
from Ramin (sic) according to a document. We believe that Ramin
might be Romen, the alternative name for Romny, Ukraine, but we
may be mistaken.

Ya'akov had a brother David. Around 1837, Ya'akov, his pregnant
wife and two sons, Chaim and Yisroel, sailed to Palestine. While
enroute, the rebbetzin gave birth to a son, Ze'ev. The family
settled in Tzvat. Ze'ev grew up to have children of his own, Sarah
and Chana. At age 25, Ze'ev died in a drowning accident in Tzvat.

I would appreciate receiving information about the Rav >from Ramin
(or Romen) or suggestions on where to search for such information.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic The Rav from Romen #rabbinic

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

My wife's gggfather, Rabbi Ya'akov Berish, was known as the Rav
from Ramin (sic) according to a document. We believe that Ramin
might be Romen, the alternative name for Romny, Ukraine, but we
may be mistaken.

Ya'akov had a brother David. Around 1837, Ya'akov, his pregnant
wife and two sons, Chaim and Yisroel, sailed to Palestine. While
enroute, the rebbetzin gave birth to a son, Ze'ev. The family
settled in Tzvat. Ze'ev grew up to have children of his own, Sarah
and Chana. At age 25, Ze'ev died in a drowning accident in Tzvat.

I would appreciate receiving information about the Rav >from Ramin
(or Romen) or suggestions on where to search for such information.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC