On 2001-12-12, Yehuda Klausner <yklaus@...> wrote in part:

The Kocker, Gerer, and Sochaczewer dynasties are three separate
dynasties, although inspired one by the other. Therefore no Gerer
Rebbe could follow R'Mendl.

Dear Yehuda,

Thank you very much for your lengthy and detailed response. Thanks
also to Alex P. Korn who provided additional information. Hopefully
with the permission of Aryeh Lopiansky, this Brooklyn boy will
continue on this thread a little longer.

A chronological question seems to present itself based on your
explanation. If Rabbi Yitzchak Meir ROTHENBERG, known as the Alter
of Gora (1799 - 1867) was also called the Alexander Rebbe, how and
when did Rabbi Shraga Feivel DANZIGER, who passed away in 1848,
become the Alexander Rebbe? He lived during Rabbi Yitzchak Meir's
lifetime. Was he the first and did Rabbi Yitzchak Meir receive the
title after the passing of Rabbi Shraga Feivel DANZIGER? Did Rabbi
Shraga Feivel DANZIGER have any offspring that also assumed that
title? I know that there are several Alexander Rebbes today.
Please clarify if you are able.

Have a Happy Chanukah!

Moishe Miller
moishe@...
Brooklyn NY

On 2001-12-12, Yehuda Klausner <yklaus@...> wrote in part:

The Kocker, Gerer, and Sochaczewer dynasties are three separate
dynasties, although inspired one by the other. Therefore no Gerer
Rebbe could follow R'Mendl.

Dear Yehuda,

Thank you very much for your lengthy and detailed response. Thanks
also to Alex P. Korn who provided additional information. Hopefully
with the permission of Aryeh Lopiansky, this Brooklyn boy will
continue on this thread a little longer.

A chronological question seems to present itself based on your
explanation. If Rabbi Yitzchak Meir ROTHENBERG, known as the Alter
of Gora (1799 - 1867) was also called the Alexander Rebbe, how and
when did Rabbi Shraga Feivel DANZIGER, who passed away in 1848,
become the Alexander Rebbe? He lived during Rabbi Yitzchak Meir's
lifetime. Was he the first and did Rabbi Yitzchak Meir receive the
title after the passing of Rabbi Shraga Feivel DANZIGER? Did Rabbi
Shraga Feivel DANZIGER have any offspring that also assumed that
title? I know that there are several Alexander Rebbes today.
Please clarify if you are able.

Have a Happy Chanukah!

Moishe Miller
moishe@...
Brooklyn NY

On 2001-12-12, Steve Rosenzweig <spteach@...> wrote:

My g-g-grandfather, according to family lore, was the cantor of
Warsaw in the late 19th or early 20th century. I wonder if anyone
would know of a source that would help me find a list of such
cantors.

Hi, Steve and others !

I also have a great great grandfather who was a cantor in Rumania,
came to New York and was a cantor there for a while and then went
to Montreal where he was a cantor also.

Is there any record of cantors similar to rabbis? I would really
like to know if this was a family profession, as we are all good
singers and religious.

Our genealogy stops there at the moment and I would like to find a
way to go further back.

Any info appreciated

Marilyn Kalman
Montreal and Vancouver
Canada

On 2001-12-12, Steve Rosenzweig <spteach@...> wrote:

My g-g-grandfather, according to family lore, was the cantor of
Warsaw in the late 19th or early 20th century. I wonder if anyone
would know of a source that would help me find a list of such
cantors.

Hi, Steve and others !

I also have a great great grandfather who was a cantor in Rumania,
came to New York and was a cantor there for a while and then went
to Montreal where he was a cantor also.

Is there any record of cantors similar to rabbis? I would really
like to know if this was a family profession, as we are all good
singers and religious.

Our genealogy stops there at the moment and I would like to find a
way to go further back.

Any info appreciated

Marilyn Kalman
Montreal and Vancouver
Canada

I'm happy to announce that we have a new editor for the Svencionys yizkor
book (Sefer zikaron le-esrim ve-shalosh kehilot she-nehrevu be-ezor
Svintsian), some of which is presently online at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Svencionys/svencionys.html.

Nancy Collier Holden, who had Kovarsky relatives in Lintup, will be taking
over the editing job after January 5, 2002. A former Special Education
teacher, Nancy has an advanced degree in Supervision and Administration, has done graduate work in Clinical Psychology and Human Development, and has extensive administrative experience. Since her retirement, Nancy has
lectured on Jewish genealogy and served as a volunteer at the National
Archives Regional Branch in Laguna Niguel, California. She is also a past
president of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Orange County and a past
editor of the Society's newsletter.

In addition to all the above, Nancy has recently launched an excellent
ShtetLinks site on Myadel
(http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Myadel/myweb2/). I know Nancy will do
a fine job as the next editor of the Svencionys yizkor book and hope that
those with ties to Svencionys or one of the other 22 communities included in this book will help her in any and every way possible.

Marjorie Rosenfeld, Carlsbad CA
(Retiring Editor, Svencionys yizkor book)

I'm happy to announce that we have a new editor for the Svencionys yizkor
book (Sefer zikaron le-esrim ve-shalosh kehilot she-nehrevu be-ezor
Svintsian), some of which is presently online at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Svencionys/svencionys.html.

Nancy Collier Holden, who had Kovarsky relatives in Lintup, will be taking
over the editing job after January 5, 2002. A former Special Education
teacher, Nancy has an advanced degree in Supervision and Administration, has done graduate work in Clinical Psychology and Human Development, and has extensive administrative experience. Since her retirement, Nancy has
lectured on Jewish genealogy and served as a volunteer at the National
Archives Regional Branch in Laguna Niguel, California. She is also a past
president of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Orange County and a past
editor of the Society's newsletter.

In addition to all the above, Nancy has recently launched an excellent
ShtetLinks site on Myadel
(http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Myadel/myweb2/). I know Nancy will do
a fine job as the next editor of the Svencionys yizkor book and hope that
those with ties to Svencionys or one of the other 22 communities included in this book will help her in any and every way possible.

Marjorie Rosenfeld, Carlsbad CA
(Retiring Editor, Svencionys yizkor book)

I am delighted to announce that David Zeidman has come forward and offered
his services as webmaster for the Latvia SIG page. I am really delighted as
he has excellent web skills. We hope to develop the site and will
appreciate any contributions that will be of interest to Latvian researchers.
Please send them to
david_zeidman@...

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

I am delighted to announce that David Zeidman has come forward and offered
his services as webmaster for the Latvia SIG page. I am really delighted as
he has excellent web skills. We hope to develop the site and will
appreciate any contributions that will be of interest to Latvian researchers.
Please send them to
david_zeidman@...

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

I am very pleased to announce that I have received a database of nearly
1500 names for Krustspils. This will be a valuable addition to the All
Latvia Database.
The years covered are 1896/97.
Addresses and occupations are also listed.

We now have the Passport Registration database,Rezekne and Krustspils which
have to go into the All Latvia Database. We will do our best with the help
of the Jewishgen Webmasters to get these up on the web in the New Year.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

I am very pleased to announce that I have received a database of nearly
1500 names for Krustspils. This will be a valuable addition to the All
Latvia Database.
The years covered are 1896/97.
Addresses and occupations are also listed.

We now have the Passport Registration database,Rezekne and Krustspils which
have to go into the All Latvia Database. We will do our best with the help
of the Jewishgen Webmasters to get these up on the web in the New Year.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

Leslie Leven the Editor of the Latvia SIG newsletter has just published her
last edition as Editor. She has to leave due to pressure of work. The SIG
is very grateful to Leslie for the excellent work she has done in editing
and publishing the newsletter and we will miss her contribution.
If any member has journalistic skills please come forward as we need you.
Mike Getz will always be there to help.
I would also appeal to you to send in anything of interest for publication
in the newsletter.

Please check the family finder in the newsletter and if there are
inaccuracies,changes or additions send them to me and I will see that the
family finder is corrected. It is an important source of information to all
of us and must be up to date and correct. We publish it once a year.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

Leslie Leven the Editor of the Latvia SIG newsletter has just published her
last edition as Editor. She has to leave due to pressure of work. The SIG
is very grateful to Leslie for the excellent work she has done in editing
and publishing the newsletter and we will miss her contribution.
If any member has journalistic skills please come forward as we need you.
Mike Getz will always be there to help.
I would also appeal to you to send in anything of interest for publication
in the newsletter.

Please check the family finder in the newsletter and if there are
inaccuracies,changes or additions send them to me and I will see that the
family finder is corrected. It is an important source of information to all
of us and must be up to date and correct. We publish it once a year.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

We want to make sure that eveyone with an interest in Ciechanow
is aware that the Ciechanow Web page has now moved to the
JewishGen server, and can be found at:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ciechanow/

Our group welcomes contributions of material for our web page, as
well as suggestions regarding the further development of our web
presentation.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada

We want to make sure that eveyone with an interest in Ciechanow
is aware that the Ciechanow Web page has now moved to the
JewishGen server, and can be found at:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ciechanow/

Our group welcomes contributions of material for our web page, as
well as suggestions regarding the further development of our web
presentation.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada

Samuel Abrahams was the informant on the Death Certificate of his
Sister-In-Law Ruth Abrahams in April 1968. Ruth was my cousin (blood
relative). The last known address for Samuel Abrahams was on East
20th. Street, New York City. Any friend or relative of Samuel please
contact Dave E. Winston at E-Mail: DAVE279@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.

Greetings fellow genners,
My ggrndfthr, Raphael GREENSPON, entered this country through the port of
Baltimore. He was a schojet and scholar.
Is there any means of retrieving more info >from the ship manifest, as is
possible through the Ellis Island web site?
I'm fairly new at this and any help would be appreciated.
Have a Happy and Freilechen Chanuka!
Researching: GREENSPON, LIPNICK, SCHABES,
Raphael Chaim Greenspon

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen FAQ, written and updated by Warren Blatt, is
a good place to start. Go to <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>
and click on #10 to read about passenger lists. For those that are new to
rersearch, you should print the entire FAQ and use it as a resource.

Sorry to be stating the obvious, and also realize that this won't be very
helpful to those who are dealing with existing photos, but ...

It seems to me that the biggest effect would come at the very beginning --
i.e. in the original photo and especially the lighting when the photo is
taken.

I don't know much about photography, but I would think if you can get a
good bright strobe which is separate >from the camera, and try different
angles, particularly close to the plane of the surface with low sunlight
conditions, maybe even at night, you should be able to get a much clearer
photo.

Perhaps you might be able to do it occasionally with sunlight, e.g. by
photographing at midsummer noon at the equator. Seriously, this might work
occasionally if the gravestones are parallel by choosing just the right
time of day.

Another old-fashioned idea is to make rubbings.

I think it's important to mention these things, since the old graves are
deteriorating. Pollution is a significant factor, and our president is
gutting environmental controls in the name of antiterrorism. Maybe even
some graves which have already been photographed should be re-photographed
(yes, I know there are a lot which have never been photographed even once).

Maybe we need to enlist some innovative types of volunteers. e.g.
schoolchildren could learn a lot about local history as well as doing
original research by photographing gravestones. I think Britain is ahead
of us in things like this, at least as to surveys of natural flora and
fauna. I think that human history is also valuable to preserve for
posterity.

Haakon Chevalier

Sorry to be stating the obvious, and also realize that this won't be very
helpful to those who are dealing with existing photos, but ...

It seems to me that the biggest effect would come at the very beginning --
i.e. in the original photo and especially the lighting when the photo is
taken.

I don't know much about photography, but I would think if you can get a
good bright strobe which is separate >from the camera, and try different
angles, particularly close to the plane of the surface with low sunlight
conditions, maybe even at night, you should be able to get a much clearer
photo.

Perhaps you might be able to do it occasionally with sunlight, e.g. by
photographing at midsummer noon at the equator. Seriously, this might work
occasionally if the gravestones are parallel by choosing just the right
time of day.

Another old-fashioned idea is to make rubbings.

I think it's important to mention these things, since the old graves are
deteriorating. Pollution is a significant factor, and our president is
gutting environmental controls in the name of antiterrorism. Maybe even
some graves which have already been photographed should be re-photographed
(yes, I know there are a lot which have never been photographed even once).

Maybe we need to enlist some innovative types of volunteers. e.g.
schoolchildren could learn a lot about local history as well as doing
original research by photographing gravestones. I think Britain is ahead
of us in things like this, at least as to surveys of natural flora and
fauna. I think that human history is also valuable to preserve for
posterity.

Haakon Chevalier

Myron Abrahams was the informant on the Death Certificate of his Uncle
Philip(Phil) Abrahams in September 1973. Myron's last known address
was on Brettonwood Lane, Levittown,Pa. Any friend or relative of
Myron please contact Dave E. Winston at E-Mail:
DAVE279@........Phil was my Cousin.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.

Greetings fellow genners,
My ggrndfthr, Raphael GREENSPON, entered this country through the port of
Baltimore. He was a schojet and scholar.
Is there any means of retrieving more info >from the ship manifest, as is
possible through the Ellis Island web site?
I'm fairly new at this and any help would be appreciated.
Have a Happy and Freilechen Chanuka!
Researching: GREENSPON, LIPNICK, SCHABES,
Raphael Chaim Greenspon

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen FAQ, written and updated by Warren Blatt, is
a good place to start. Go to <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>
and click on #10 to read about passenger lists. For those that are new to
rersearch, you should print the entire FAQ and use it as a resource.