What’s in a name#names


1:One of my assumed relatives is Levi Yitchak Bunim Zalmanson. Is Bunim a recognized name or does it have another meaning?
2: What is a patronymic name?
3: Was it standard for sons to take on the surname of the father and for daughters to take the surname of the mother?

Thanks in advance.
Herman Salmenson

ViewMate translation request - Russian/Ukrainian #translation #ukraine


I've posted a record in Russian (or possibly Ukrainian) for which I need a translation. I'm looking for a literal translation of the entire document, if possible. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Michael Serber
Plymouth, Minnesota

Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna


Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.  Ayn Rand

Information on Maiden Names, Thank You #ukraine


On Thu, Feb 4, 1999 at 01:53 PM, "molly gordy" <mgordy@...> wrote:
RASKIN (Ekaterinaslav).
Have you found information about RASKIN in Ekaterinaslav.

salmo raskin

JGSLI Virtual meeting on Sunday April 25 at 2:00 PM Eastern – Randy Schoenberg #announcements #education #events

Bonnie Birns

Hello all! The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island is delighted to invite you to our April monthly meeting featuring our guest speaker, Randy Schoenberg.


JGSLI is extending the invitation to the broader genealogy community. We ask that you register in advance (see below). Please share with your friends!

Sunday, April 25th, 2:00 PM, via Zoom

Speaker: Randy Schoenberg
Topic: Woman in Gold

E. Randol Schoenberg is the lawyer who successfully sued the Austrian government for the return of Gustav Klimt's Woman in Gold to its rightful owner. He will tell the remarkable story of Maria Altmann's battle for five Klimt paintings that the Nazis seized from her Viennese family during World War II. Randy ultimately brought the case to the U.S. Supreme Court and prevailed. The legal battle was the subject of a successful Hollywood film starring Helen Mirren. Woman in Gold – a portrait of Maria’s aunt, Adele Bloch Bauer -- now hangs in the Neue Gallerie on Fifth Avenue.

An avid genealogist since he was 8, Randy maintains huge family trees on JewishGen and on Geni, where he is a curator. He founded the Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook, which has over 20,000 members. A board member of JewishGen, he is co-founder and director of its Austria-Czech Research Division.

There are two ways to join our meeting:
Register for our Zoom meeting: this will allow you to join in so you can chat with others before and after the meeting (this will be limited to the first 100 people to join)


When: Apr 25, 2021 2:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Register in advance for this meeting:

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.


Our meeting will be livestreamed on our YouTube channel. Please visit at the meeting start time and the meeting's video should be listed. No YouTube or other login is required, but if you are signed in you can ask questions in writing via the comment section under the video.


This webinar is free and open to the public.


I look forward to "seeing" you all then!


Bonnie Birns


President, Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island
Jericho, Long Island, NY researcher #59766

Re: Elin #belarus


Hi Neal
I found it very interesting your information on  that;
Re surname Elin, saw web reference some time ago (and now maddeningly unable
to find) linking surname Elin to village/shtetl of Elna (spelling variants
Yelna, Jelna
Because my great grand father was born in village/shtetl of Elna,, and I found adoçamento of the family saying ELIN. and I thought it was related to patronymic,,,,!,,
Could you please tell me where did you get this important information from?
Looking forward to hear from you,
Salmo Raskin
email s.raskin@...

Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

Lee Jaffe

I found this question more disturbing than I anticipated.  I don't mean to imply anything about the author or her intentions – they could be entirely  innocent – but her question touches on some of the most sensitive and fraught points about Jewish identity I've come across.  Skirting the earlier points about race being a social and/or artificial construct, which should provide a baseline understanding for our discussion, I want to highlight the particularly thorny question of Jewish identity.  By Jewish law, tradition and practice, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew, whether their nearer relations lived in Ethiopia or China or Brooklyn or Aleppo.  We are all one people (Yes, there are distinctions, divisions, biases and social advantages / disadvantages within the Jewish world but for our purposes I'm just addressing whether someone is or isn't a Jew.) 

The notion that Ashkenazi Jews might be a race, and therefore distinct from the rest of the Jewish people is dismaying, to say the least.  And I think that notion goes along with a trend where other people try to determine what defines a Jew.  As already mentioned, these efforts haven't gone that well for us.   Further, I can't think of a time where defining Jews as a race has resulted in any protections: yes, as religious adherents, an ethnic group, a nationality, we have sometimes been considered part of a protected class where those identities could not be used to deny us access to housing, education, employment ...   

And therein lies my main point, that Jewish identity as understood by Jews does not fit neatly into any category(ies) understood by others.  And Jews as a race is the pigeonhole we should avoid most vigorously.  I think this is important to keep in mind at a time when Nazis (nothing "neo" about them) march with signs "Jews won't replace us," and progressive organizations ban "white Jews" from their boards because they see us a privileged, and even some Jewish organizations begin to internalize that view, worrying whether we are diverse enough.  (Representing 1% of the world's people, I bring diversity with me wherever I go.)    We are all one people, sharing a single origin and tradition and I think that's a perspective we need to assert at every turn.  Just because history has forced us into exile for thousands of years, living in every corner of world, where we've taken on different languages, dress, food, customs and even physical characteristics, we shouldn't forget that we are one people.

To put this in the genealogical context, looking at what my family has undergone over the past 2 to 3 centuries, what they have done to survive, hunkering down through oppression and taking enormous risks to escape to a better life – sometimes successfully, sometimes not – and, even after reaching "the land of the free," finding ourselves barred from jobs, housing, education until my generation, I don't and won't accept being relegated to some arbitrary label by someone with a limited understanding of what being Jewish means.


Lee David Jaffe

Surnames / Towns:  Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod, Poland ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzman?, Schwarzstein?) / ? ;  Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland,  Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland


Moving Frequently Among Ukraine Towns #ukraine

Herbert Lazerow

   Some Jews in that part of Galicia were shenkers.  They ran inns or taverns and, under lease from the local noble, had a monopoly of the making and selling of alcoholic beverages. It was common for these leases to be for the calendar year. The shenker might choose to move to another town because he received better lease terms there, or because the noble refused to renew the lease. Given what the weather was like at that time of year, there was a strong disincentive to move in the 19th century, that was often overcome by either opportunity or necessity.
Herbert Lazerow
Professor of Law, University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110 U.S.A.
(619)260-4597 office, (858)453-2388 cell, lazer@...
Author: Mastering Art Law (2d ed. Carolina Academic Press 2020)

Herbert Lazerow
Professor of Law, University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110
Author: Mastering Art Law (Carolina Academic Press, 2d ed. 2020)

Re: Rabbis in Belarus #belarus


Could you please search for my great grand grandfather Naftali Gertz Raskin, who lived between 1840-1920 in Hotimsk, mogilev?

salmo raskin

Bessarabia New project - immigration to South America #bessarabia


My ancestors came from Ekaterinoslav and Teleshti to Brazil, through JCA.
is it possible to search for their names in the archives?

Salmo Raskin

What language are these two letters, posted on ViewMate written in? #translation


Please let me know what language these letters are written in. If you are able to translate them, I would be incredibly thankful!

page one

page two


Rachel Park

KESSLER - Starokonstantinov, LURIE - Buckah, Belarus, Latvia, Vilnius, Minsk; 

ALPERT - Minsk, Vilnius; SACHS - Odessa; DUBNICK - Minsk

KEILES - Vilnius, Lodz; NAGIN(SKY) - Poltava; DUBIN(SKY) - Poltava; TSIGAR - Vilnius; Giguzin - Vilnius; 


ViewMate translation request - YIDISH #belarus


Subj: ViewMate translation request - YIDISH

I've posted a vital record in YDISH for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.


Salmo Raskin

Understanding Lithuanian Revision Lists #lithuania

Steven Granek

I am viewing a record of the All Lithuanian Revision List which contains my Orum family in Rokiskis. The The revision list is dated 1908. And there is a second instance of what looks like the same list but with an additional person (looks to be the female spouse of one of the brothers). For anyone that wants to see the record I simply searched for surname Orum and one of the things that came up was the LitvakSIG All Lithuanian Revision Database with 56 names. My family is the one with first person listed at Perets David Orum (and my grandmother Leah is listed last in the first instance and next to last in the 2nd instance).

I have marriage records from Lodz for one of the people listed - Freyda Orum - and the marriage took place in 1898. And I know she stayed in Pabianice as my Grandmother Leah joined her there (right around 1907 or 1908 - which means Leah was also probably not living is Rokiskis by the time of this ‘1908’ list). I have lots of corroborating evidence for this wedding and that it is the same person.

Additionally, I am ALMOST sure (less sure than about the marriage) thet another of the people had already come to the US in 1906

Given those two things, can someone please help understand the 1908 revision list, what it is (it doesn’t seem it can be a census given what I know).

Thanks in advance for any insights-

Steve Granek

Re: NYC Cemeteries - Offering Mt Hebron #photographs #usa

Jay Paul

You asked if Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn was safe to visit.
I have not been there for a number of years (since 2012), but I certainly found it safe to visit back then.
It is quite cluttered with gravestones, and not always easy to navigate. As it turned out, the office did not have records indicating all the family members who were actually buried in a plot together — I was happily surprised when I got there.
All the best,
Jay Paul
San Francisco, CA 94117
Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia, Lithuania; Traby, Belarus), LEIBSON (Lithuania), WOLF, SCHWARZ and STERN (presumed from Austro-Hungary).

Jay Paul, PhD
San Francisco CA 94117
Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), WOLF (Austro-Hungary).

Re: One Man's Story of being Fostered in Friesland during WW2 - For readers of Dutch #holocaust


There is an option to read the article in English when you click on the link.  
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: NYC Cemeteries - Offering Mt Hebron #photographs #usa


Yes Washington Cemetery is safe. I visited a few months ago. You can drive or take subway. It is also walking distance to Schreiber’s kosher bakery (excellent rugelach and black and white cookies).
Liba Casson-Nudell
Minneapolis, MN

Viewmate VM93014 & VM93015 - translation of handwritten captions in Yiddish #translation

Paul Silverstone

Subj: ViewMate translation request 

I've posted in two windows a series of photographs with captions probably in Yiddish, for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following address ...
and similarly for VM 93015.
These pictures appear to have been taken in Makow Mazowiecki showing a burial of several people at the end of the war.   A Polish soldier is visible so I assume this is after the
Germans left.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Paul Silverstone
West Vancouver, BC  

Suggestion when using generations mother, grandmother ... #general

Dahn Cukier

I suggest that people add year of birth when mentioning an ancestor.
Then if you are 20 or 40 or 70, people will know when you write "mother",
the time frame. My mother was born in 1920s, my sisters 12 year old
grandson's mother in 1980s.
If known, use the exact year, but if not known use an estimate.
Dahn Zukrowicz
When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

Searching LECHNER Cousins #ukraine


Hello my maternal grandparents and great grandparents were Brechers, Mayer and Rachel (Schwartz) Brecher. They lived in a shetl on the outskirts of Chernovitz called Givozits . Our surname and geography are similar.
          Saul J David

Running into a dead end #galicia


I have been researching my maternal grandparents and great grandparents. I have been successful in learning where they lived (Givozits,in Galicia) and what their names were ( Meyer Brecher, Rachel( Schwartz)Brecher and Reuben Lattner and Jetti (Schwimmer) Lattner.)
MY Mother had told me of other old family surnames including Reiter,Sobel and Sabbat(h). I am a subscriber to Gesher Galicia. When I input any of these surnames into their search data base along with the location of Gwozdziec (Hvizdets) Ukraine,there they are ! In one case all three surnames appear in one entry.  My question now is where do I go with this. Is there a way I can dig deeper trying to determine how all these surnames fit together. Thank you.
                                                Saul Joseph David  ( Researching Brecher, Lattner, Schwimmer, Reiter, Sobel, Sabbath )

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