Re: DNA matches by country #dna

Linda Kelley

Thanks, Bob, I see your point. There is a difference between where the kit owner is living, and where his ancestors lived, which would be more useful for genealogy.
Linda Wolfe Kelley
Portland, OR, USA

Re: Shtetel Searching for Gribnetz, Belarus - Birth Place of Uncle #belarus

Hap Ponedel


Here is Grebnets from a Russian military map dated 1925. It is not necessarily the date that the original image was created but probably received updates that year, possibly the blue coloring to represent the wet areas. Belarus is often swampy. 

I have placed a green arrow pointing to Grebnets, which is also marked with the number 37, indicating the number dwellings present when the original mapping survey was taken by the Russian military. The original survey probably happened closer to 1900 or even the 1890's. Again, blue areas are indicative of swamps and otherwise this area was wooded as indicated by all the little circles. 
Here is a link to the image which can be downloaded from my website:
You should be able to right-click the image and save it to your computer. You will also see Cherven at the upper rt. corner of the image in all caps: ЧЕРВЕНЬ
Grebnets is best described as a village and not a shtetl, as it is very small. There is no discernible infrastructure and no central marketplace, a defining feature of shtetls. What is characteristic of villages is the arrangement of buildings on either side of ONE road. There is a cemetery located just to the north of the village. These maps often indicate whether a cemetery is Jewish but here that information is lacking.

Please email me for more interpretation of the map if you care.

Hap Ponedel
Eugene, OR

Re: Date of death for Fannie Shlanger Newman #usa #records

Brian Kerr

After a bit of searching, I (Hopefully) believe that the following Ancestry Sharable Link reflects the death information for Fannie.

Good Luck! :-))

-- ~Brian D. Kerr, Esq | SSG, U.S. Army (Retired) | SSA, Brigade G1, U.S. Army (Retired) |>>Known Family Surnames (Researching): Dessler, Walk(Valk), Mahler (Maler), Paradisgarten (Paradisegarten), Tomasy (Thomashy), Gluck, Preisz (Priess), Steinhardt (Steinhart), Grossman (Grosman), Sholtz (Shultz), Kaplan, Bloom, Fischer (Fisher), Levy, Baum, Duwidewic, Meisal (Maisel)<<|>>Known Family Locations/Regions (of Surnames): Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania<<|

Help interpreting marriage records from all Galicia database. #galicia

Wendy Griswold

Hi, hope everyone is thinking positive and testing negative.

In the all-Galicia database, I am looking at Zurawno marriages 1901-1936.
The folks at Jewish Gen were kind enough to confirm my interpretation that
scans 6 and 7, Gicie Drucker and Shulem Ellner, same page, same record
number, confirms that they were married in Zurawno in 1901. Previous
message on this topic was number 669144.

Scans 2 and 12 show Schulem Shlomo Blitz and Gicie Hauptman, and the
dates, page, and record number are the same.
Married 1901, Zurawno.

(I checked this out with another couple I'm looking at. Scans 6, 7, and
15 show Moses Drucker marrying Feiga Ellner, and the information for
Feiga Ellner matches the information for one Feiga Kronland.) But that
was just for reference.

I think what I've got, looking at scans 2/12 and 6/7, is the same
couple, shown with both parents' surnames. This would be better than
genealogical gold. This would be genealogical diamonds. Which is why I
don't want to jump to conclusions.

Can someone please tell me if I'm right or if I'm perhaps suffering
from confirmation bias?

A thousand thanks,

Wendy Griswold

Pittsfield MA

Searching BLITZ/ PFEIFFER/FEIFER / ELLNER - Zurawno, Stryy, Bolechow,

WENZELBERG (any spelling), EINHORN, SHIFULDREM - Nowy Sacz area

DWASS (changed to DAVIS), SOROKOFF (any spelling), GARFINKEL - area of
Ekaterinoslaw (now Dniepro) and possibly Vitebsk

Presentation on Archive Services for Belarus #belarus #announcements

Carl Kaplan

A Trip To Your Belarus Roots - A Free Presentation by The Together Plan’s Belarus Archives Team


Sunday July 20, 2022

12 pm ET

Zoom Meeting



The Together Plan’s Vasily Zaitsau, Belarus Archive Services Coordinator in Minsk, will present the capabilities of The Together Plan in assisting you with researching in the Belarus Archives, along with the process for getting started. The Together Plan is a non-profit organization, working to assist the Jewish communities in Belarus. TTP has a team in Minsk with extensive Archive capabilities and experience, tracing family roots in Belarus, in some cases back to the 1700s. Vasily will be speaking from Minsk via Zoom.

To register for the presentation, go to:

Carl Kaplan

EDELSON, EDINBURG Onikshti, Ukmerge, Lithuania

Re: DNA matches by country #dna

Bob Smiley

Thanks Linda, but did you find people who had ancestors in those locations or only people who listed that country as where they were currently living? I searched for Uraine (where my grandparents came from) and I did not see myself listed, or any known relatives of mine.
Bob Smiley
Kirkland, Washington USA

Re: Chernivtsi or Chernivtsi? #russia #ukraine #austria-czech

Steve Stein



Thanks, but that wasn’t my question. I’m sure there are plenty of Rosenthals everywhere. My question is really which Chernivtsi to pursue, based on the evidence.


Steve Stein

Re: How do I get original record image from JewishGen? #records #ukraine

yael polat

I cannot open the links quoted here and I have the same problem: 

There are data' birth on JewishGen for two people: Basia-Perl and Khaim Zelenny born in Balta. But it is said that they are not microfilmed. As far as I understand, they were found in Odessa: SAOR (State Archive of Odessa Region). I understand that it is not the right moment to contact some researcher in Odessa, but how could the record be found or, in other words, is it a possibility to find the full and original records?
Yael Polar
Researching mostly Khashchevatoye shtetel

No photo description available.

Re: Death March 31/1/1945 from Konigsberg to the Baltic sea #holocaust


Dear Ephraim!

I read about this death march in an article in Der Spiegel in 2020 published on the anniversary of the atrocity itself. I'll try to send you a link to it in a separate post. The title was: "Der fast vergessene Massenmord am Bernsteinstrand" (in English: "The Almost Forgotten Mass Murder on the Amber Beach."

The main massacre took place at the beach of Palmnicken in what was then Germany, now Yantarny, Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia. Palmnicken was and Yantarny is an important place for harvesting amber -- Bernstein in German, yantar in Russian and other Slavic languages.

The event appears to have been another truly horrific atrocity, a death march of starving prisoners in freezing temperatures far below zero through an East Prussian winter, an area traditionally known for its cold climate.

The text of the article, which also includes a photo gallery, mentions the memoirs of a survivor named Maria Salz, later Blitz, from Krakow, Poland and also the text of an eyewitness, a then 16-year-old Hitler Youth named Martin Bergau. Bergau's writing about the murders apparently led to them being discovered by a broader group of people in the first place. Bergau's book is called (without the diacritics): "Todesmarsch zur Bernsteinkueste: Das Massaker an Juden im ostpreussischen Palmnicken 1945. Zeitzeugen erinnern sich." ("Death March to the Amber Coast: The Massacre of Jews in East Prussian Palmnicken 1945. Eye Witnesses remember."

The Spiegel article also mentions a Leonid Plitman and identifies him as the head of the Kehila of Kaliningrad (which was Koenigsberg before 1945). 

I hope this helps you with some sources. I'll try posting the link to the article for you now.

Rick Pinard, Prague

Re: Chernivtsi or Chernivtsi? #russia #ukraine #austria-czech

Sherri Bobish

Hi Steve,

I searched for ROSENTHAL (soundex search) and town Chernivtsi at The JewishGen Unified Databases, and I found 33 burial records at a cemetery in Chernivtsi on Zelena Street.
Most spelled ROSENTHAL, but a few spelled ROZENTHAL.  Perhaps you will recognize some of the names (there are photos of the stones.)

According to this site:
The cemetery on Zelena Street is at the Chernivtsi at coordinates  48°18' N, 25°56' E.

Also found a testimony of  Rozental' Shmil' Srulevich
which mentions the Chernivtsi at coordinates 48°32' N 28°07' E.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.); LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.); WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.); SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / BLUMENKRANZ / APPEL / WEINER / ROSENBERG (Vysoko-Litovsk, Brest, Biala Podlaska)

Finding Berkovitch #russia


I am trying to find information on The Gershon Berkovich family And his family from Mogilev Russia. Gershon was Born in 1898 and had a son in Alexander in 1920.
Thank You,
Robert Taub

Re: Date of death for Fannie Shlanger Newman #usa #records

Odeda Zlotnick

Don't assume she was alive for all of 1940 and some of 1941.  The city directory may not have been updated in a timely way.
Start your search in 1940.
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: Zembin = Zjembin #belarus

Matthew Klionsky

I have records from Zembin and environs of several marriages between Podnos and Klionsky families in the 1800s (and Belkins and Leikinds intermarried with both).  And, at least two marriages between Klionsky and Shifrin (=Sifrin), which I mention b/c of the reference to the book by Geof Sifrin.  Also, evidence of a number of alternative representations of Zembin in various records, including Sembin, Zebin and Sebin.  Anyone interested in details, please contact me by email:  Matthew Klionsky   klionsky@...

Bessarabia Group progress report for the month of June, 2022 #bessarabia #ukraine #JewishGenUpdates #records

Yefim Kogan

Dear friends, researchers, 

Here is an update for the Bessarabia SIG projects for the month of June 2022.   
Our name is back Bessarabia SIG (Special Interest Group) as it was for many years.

See also at What's New at Bessarabia website.

Bessarabian Databases. Updates sent to JewishGen in June of 2022:


      Below is a list of updates sent to JewishGen. This year a new Upload system was created at JewishGen, and because of it all additions are already available to everybody! JewishGen - Thanks a lot! Thank you very much to all volunteers who worked on these Bessarabian projects.

    • Vital Records. Bendery and uezd Birth and Death records; Beltsy Birth, Marriage and Death records; Kishinev Marriage records for years from 1861 -1918. Total of 4,036 records.
      Project Leaders Ariel Parkansky and Yefim Kogan, translators Stas Shvartsman, Emilia Alekseeva, Michael Richman, Julia Maximova, Genny Imas, Yuriy Daylis, Mike Glazer, Yefim KoganSee the list of towns, shteitle

  • Revision Lists. 6,030 records completed for 1,612 families. See the list of towns, shteitle
    Project Leader - Yefim Kogan and translators Alan Levine, Claire Stuart, Alex Matlin, Elizabeth Fortun, Emilia Alekseeva, Julia Maximova and Yefim Kogan.
I also want to let you know that with the new Upload system, you may see information differently.  And if you have any issues or see mistakes, please let me know right away.

I will soon choose new sets of records to translate next half a year.  If anyone is interested to help us in translation/transcription projects, mostly from Russian, please let me know.  You would need to read Russian handwriting, be able to enter information into Excel table.

If you have questions about our group/website, please do not hesitate to email me.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator

Date of death for Fannie Shlanger Newman #usa #records

Tracy G.

Hi all -

I have been trying, in vain, to locate the date of death and subsequent death certificate or headstone for my great-great grandmother, Fannie Shlanger Newman.

Fannie was born in Radt, Hungary in ~1864. She married Max Meir Newman (b. ~1891 in Radt, d. 1915 in NJ) in 1881. She came to the US in 1893 and they settled in Newark, New Jersey, Altogether, they had 11 children.

The last place she appears, record-wise, is in a 1941 city directory in Newark, New Jersey. She is listed on the 1940 census as living with her adult daughter, Pearl Newman, at 272 Hawthorne Ave in Newark, New Jersey.

I have never been able to find any death information, which would be immensely helpful, as I know very little conclusively about her parents. I'm assuming she died between 1941 and 1950. Can any sleuths help me find it?

Thank you so much!

Tracy Grigoriades

Wayne, PA

Researching: Greenberg (Pasvitinys, Lithuania), Slevitz (Subate, Lithuania), Adler (Wytkor, Galicia), Friedlander (Skadvile, Russia), Blinder (Pocotilova, Kiev, Ukraine), Savitt (Grodno, Belarus), Newman (Zemplen, Hungary), Weissman (Kamenetz, Ukraine)

Reminder: LitvakSIG Ukmerge District Research Group Birds of a Feather (BOF) Zoom Meeting, July 10 #lithuania #announcements

Roy Ogus

A reminder that the Birds of a Feather (BOF) session for the Ukmerge District Research Group will be held over Zoom on Sunday, July 10, 2022, at 12:00 noon EST.

The Ukmerge district includes the following towns:   Alanta, Anyksciai, Baleliai, Balninkai, Bukonys, Debeikiai, Kavarskas, Kupiskis, Kurkliai, Leliunai, Pagiriai, Raguva, Seta, Siesikai, Simonys, Skiemonys, Subacius, Svedasai, Taujenai, Traupis, Troskunai, Ukmerge, Utena,Uzpaliai, Vidiskiai, Viesintos, Vyzuonos, Zelva

To register for the Ukmerge district BOF session, which is free to all, please click on the following link or copy and paste it in your browser:

(Make sure to paste the complete URL into your browser.)

You may also register using the tiny URL: 

Roy Ogus
LitvakSIG Ukmerge District Research Group

JGS of Santa Cruz invites you- Researching Eastern European Jewish Surnames with Alexander Beider, PhD. Sunday, July 17, 1pm Pacific Time- #announcements #events #education

Leah Kushner

Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society  invites you to  

 Speaker: Dr. Alexander Beider, PhD

 Researching Eastern European Jewish Surnames

Sunday July 17, 1pm Pacific Time/ 4pm Eastern

Guest RSVP:  Register here

Free to Members, $5.00 to Guests 

Description:   A large majority of Jews of the Russian Empire received their family names only about 200 years ago.  In contrast with many other Ashkenazim, the whole surnaming process was managed internally within Jewish communities, with marginal participation by Christian clerks. The names adopted in the Russian Empire reflect a panorama of Jewish life at the beginning of the 19th century including: languages used and their peculiarities, occupations, given names, and places of settlement.

Some surnames provide information about ancestors who lived well before the 19th century. This is the case of surnames revealing Jewish “castes” (Cohanim, Levites), those belonging to rabbinical dynasties, and those of other migrants from Central Europe, as well as a small group of names of Sephardic origin. Because of the Ashkenazic tradition of naming children after deceased close relatives , certain surnames based on given names (patronymics or matronymics) can provide information linking us to those who lived in the Middle Ages.

Bio: Alexander Beider holds one doctoral degree in applied mathematics (Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology) and another in Jewish Studies (Sorbonne, Paris). He uses onomastics and linguistics as tools to unravel the history of the Jewish people. He has written a series of reference books dealing with the etymology of Ashkenazic and Sephardic surnames and Ashkenazic given names, all published by Avotaynu Inc. (1993-2019). His book “Origins of Yiddish Dialects,” published by Oxford University Press (2015), sheds light on the early stages of the development of Yiddish. Beider was born in Moscow and currently lives in Paris.

Zoom link will be sent to your email the week of the event, please check your Spam folder.

For more information or membership information

co-sponsor- Chadeish Yameinu
Leah Kushner, President SCJGS


Visit our website:

Subscribers:  If you already registered for this event via PayPal, you are on our  RSVP list and will receive the Zoom link the week of the event.  

Re: MyHeritage Adds Historical Record Collection From Vienna Free Access to Search; #records

Deborah HOLMAN

Jan, I can't thank you enough for posting this! The discovery of my great-uncle's application added a very interesting facet to the family story. I always wondered why my great-grandfather, Sigmund LICHTENTHAL had no connection with his family. My mother alluded to some type of family rift. In Abraham LICHTENTHAL's application (his name was transcribed incorrectly as FICHTHENTHAL) he states he had worked in his brother's hat factory, LITAL until 1932 and had been unemployed since then. Now, if only I could find some document that explained what happened!! Sadly Abraham chose to go to NIsko in 1939 in search of a better life (as promised by the IKG under duress by the Nazis) never to be heard from again.

Deborah Samuel Holman
Woodbury, CT

Memorial Plaques Database Grows to More Than 230,000 Records. Please help us grow! #JewishGenUpdates

Nolan Altman

JewishGen is proud to announce its 2022 Summer update for the Memorial Plaques Database (MPD). The MPD database can be accessed at   The MPD database includes the data from plaques and Yizkor lists from synagogue and other organizations.  Many of these sources include patronymic information.


This update added approximately 4,600 records and 4,000 photos from 15 new organizations and 3 updated sets. This update brings the Memorial Plaques holdings to 230,400 records and 154,600 photos from 432 synagogues, institutions and memorials representing 43 countries. 


Additions during this period came from Brazil, Hungary, Romania and 8 states in the US; Florida, Illinois, Iowa, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Texas. Our thanks to volunteers from the Iowa Jewish Historical Society, the Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois, and the Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island.


We believe that the MPD is a good example of how users of JewishGen’s databases can “give back”.  If you are a member of a synagogue or other organization with memorial plaques or Yizkor lists, please consider helping us to grow this database.  You can find more information on submitting data at   If you have additional questions, please contact me directly.


For a complete listing of the institutions currently in the database, please see



Nolan Altman


JewishGen Director for Special Projects – Memorial Plaques

July, 2022


JOWBR Grows to 4.25 Million Records! #JewishGenUpdates

Nolan Altman

     JewishGen is proud to announce its 2022 Summer update to the JOWBR (JewishGen’s Online Worldwide Burial Registry) database.


     Please visit to access the JOWBR database. If you’re a new JOWBR user, we recommend that you visit our screencast page at  and take a look at the first two explanatory screencasts.


     This update, adds approximately 73,500 new records and 51,000 new photos.  The database is adding and/or updating 437 cemeteries.  This update brings JOWBR’s holdings to 4.25 million records and 953,000 photos from approximately 10,000 cemeteries / cemetery sections representing 144 countries! 


     Once again, donors for this update include a mix of individuals, Jewish genealogical societies, historical societies and museums.  We appreciate all our donor’s submissions and the transliteration work done by a faithful group of JewishGen volunteers. 



     Significant additions to JOWBR by country include:


  • Australia – the Australian Jewish Genealogical Society (Victoria), Inc. submitted approximately 4,000 new records for 14 different existing and new JOWBR cemeteries, the majority from Karrakatta Cemetery in Perth.
  • Brazil – approximately 1,400 records, mostly from smaller cemeteries around Sao Paulo. More Sao Paulo records to come.
  • Canada – 1,700 new records and 10,100 photos from new and existing cemeteries submitted primarily from the JGS of Montreal and the JGS of Toronto.  In addition, a group of cemetery records from New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Saint John have been added.
  • Czech Republic – approximately 3,200 records and 1,600 photos from 6 new and updated cemeteries, the largest sets from Karlovy Vary and Golčŭv Jeníkov.
  • England – 7,800 records and 1,900 photos from 13 new and updated cemeteries, the majority of which are from Blackley Jewish Cemetery and Plashet Cemetery.
  • Morocco – 3,400 records from 3 cemeteries, including Marrakech and Tetouan.
  • Russia – added 3,300 records and 1,400 photographs from 16 new and 3 updated Russian cemeteries, the largest set from Nizhny Novgorod. 
  • United States - approximately 52,300 new records and 32,000 photos for 148 new and 47 updated cemeteries. Significant additions came from completing the Lasky Collection, volunteers from the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston, and a number of dedicated individual volunteers and representatives of synagogues and historical societies.


     Please see for a complete listing of all cemeteries in JOWBR.


     I want to particularly thank Eric Feinstein who has been helping me to find and gain permission to add many US and non-US records, especially worldwide veteran burials.  Eric’s group of volunteers includes Sandra Bennett, Lineke Bos, Malka Chosnek, Ann Meddin Hellman, Maurice Kessler, Deborah Ross, Marylin Shalks, and Suzanne Tarica. In addition, a big thank you to our volunteer transliterators, led by Gilberto Jugend, Anya Givental, and Yuliana Murray, without whom we would not be able to add the information from some very difficult to read photos.


     We appreciate all the work our donors have done and encourage you to make additional submissions.  Whether you work on a cemetery / cemetery section individually or consider a group project for your local Society, temple or other group, it’s your submissions that help grow the JOWBR database and make it possible for researchers and family members to find answers they otherwise might not.  Please also consider other organizations you may be affiliated with that may already have done cemetery indexing that would consider having their records included in the JOWBR database.


     Our next update will include submissions received by November 30th for an update to be made by year-end.


Nolan Altman


JewishGen Director for Special Projects - JOWBR

July 2022