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Cleveland Deaths On-line #belarus

Jack R. Braverman <jbraverman1@...>
 

Many of the list members have roots/relatives in Cleveland, OH. The
wonderful Cleveland Public Library just placed it's necrology file
(previously on microfilm) on its web site. It presents an opportunity for=

many to do armchair genealogy, and you need not be a library card holder =
to
use it. Here's how:

1. The library can be accessed at http://www.cpl.org

2. On home page at left select "Data Bases and Links Library."

3. Enter the word "necrology" in the keyword window.

4. On the right side of the screen, select the second item, "Links..." in=

the text paragraph format block.

5. You will see the necrology choice. Click on it.

* * * * *.

The necrology file contains records from: 1822, 1847-1848, 1850-1975. The=
se
records were culled >from early cemetery records and death notices publish=
ed
in the local papers. The notices had to be paid for, so po' fo'k may not
appear. Also, early immigrants may have placed notices in the ethnic
newspapers, which are not included in this data base. Or thier passing ma=
y
have been unremarked. (The Ohio Vital Statistics is/or about to be on-lin=
e.
If you can't find someone in the necrology file, the death certs are the
next best source. If anyone is interested, write me; I'll see if I can fi=
nd
the address.)

For records _after_ 1975 use this web address:

http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX

* * * * *

What a world, _nicht wahr_?

J. Braverman
Cleveland OH


Fw: Articles in "Shvut" #belarus

Leonid Smilovitsky <smilov@...>
 

Dear friends!

I was so happy to know about your interest to "Shvut" magazine. Till 1994
it
was published in Hebrew, and >from 1995 in English! You are asked volumes
No1-8 (1995-1999) without any trouble at Diaspora Research Institute,
where
I research History of Belarus Jewry. In each volume there is my article
about Belarussia. Please submit orders to diaspora@...
fax + (972)-3-640-7287
As for my article "Pogrom in Rechitsa in October 1905" this is in
preparation at JewishGen and soon you will have to read in free in our web
site!

Yours truly,
Leonid Smilovitsky smilov@...
Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Cleveland Deaths On-line #belarus

Jack R. Braverman <jbraverman1@...>
 

Many of the list members have roots/relatives in Cleveland, OH. The
wonderful Cleveland Public Library just placed it's necrology file
(previously on microfilm) on its web site. It presents an opportunity for=

many to do armchair genealogy, and you need not be a library card holder =
to
use it. Here's how:

1. The library can be accessed at http://www.cpl.org

2. On home page at left select "Data Bases and Links Library."

3. Enter the word "necrology" in the keyword window.

4. On the right side of the screen, select the second item, "Links..." in=

the text paragraph format block.

5. You will see the necrology choice. Click on it.

* * * * *.

The necrology file contains records from: 1822, 1847-1848, 1850-1975. The=
se
records were culled >from early cemetery records and death notices publish=
ed
in the local papers. The notices had to be paid for, so po' fo'k may not
appear. Also, early immigrants may have placed notices in the ethnic
newspapers, which are not included in this data base. Or thier passing ma=
y
have been unremarked. (The Ohio Vital Statistics is/or about to be on-lin=
e.
If you can't find someone in the necrology file, the death certs are the
next best source. If anyone is interested, write me; I'll see if I can fi=
nd
the address.)

For records _after_ 1975 use this web address:

http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX

* * * * *

What a world, _nicht wahr_?

J. Braverman
Cleveland OH


Belarus SIG #Belarus Fw: Articles in "Shvut" #belarus

Leonid Smilovitsky <smilov@...>
 

Dear friends!

I was so happy to know about your interest to "Shvut" magazine. Till 1994
it
was published in Hebrew, and >from 1995 in English! You are asked volumes
No1-8 (1995-1999) without any trouble at Diaspora Research Institute,
where
I research History of Belarus Jewry. In each volume there is my article
about Belarussia. Please submit orders to diaspora@...
fax + (972)-3-640-7287
As for my article "Pogrom in Rechitsa in October 1905" this is in
preparation at JewishGen and soon you will have to read in free in our web
site!

Yours truly,
Leonid Smilovitsky smilov@...
Israel


Re: belarus digest: April 01, 2001 #belarus

Adarelanab@...
 

I resent today's posting about NARA research because I received a message
saying it had not been delivered. Obviously it had and the "undeliverable"
message was a cyber error. My apologies.
Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA


Re: Ship Manifests from NARA #belarus

Adarelanab@...
 

The researchers at NARA seem to be very precise. I requested a manifest for
Joseph Magidson with the correct ship name and date of arrival. After about
3 months I received an answer saying the closest they could find was Joseph
Magidsohn on the same date and ship. I had to write again saying that was
the correct person, and, after about another 3 months I received the document.
Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA
Researching: BELINKOFF >from Gomel, Israel, Youngstown and Los Angeles;
CHARNAK >from Gomel, Ukraine, Youngstown and Philadelphia;
MAGIDSON >from Gomel, Youngstown and New York;
KLEINERT or Klein >from Gomel(?)
PINTCHUK >from Tomaszov Mazieowecki, Youngstown & Cleveland;
NUMBERG >from Lomza and Chicago;
GOLDER (GOLDFARB) >from Ostrolenka and Chicago.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: belarus digest: April 01, 2001 #belarus

Adarelanab@...
 

I resent today's posting about NARA research because I received a message
saying it had not been delivered. Obviously it had and the "undeliverable"
message was a cyber error. My apologies.
Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Ship Manifests from NARA #belarus

Adarelanab@...
 

The researchers at NARA seem to be very precise. I requested a manifest for
Joseph Magidson with the correct ship name and date of arrival. After about
3 months I received an answer saying the closest they could find was Joseph
Magidsohn on the same date and ship. I had to write again saying that was
the correct person, and, after about another 3 months I received the document.
Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA
Researching: BELINKOFF >from Gomel, Israel, Youngstown and Los Angeles;
CHARNAK >from Gomel, Ukraine, Youngstown and Philadelphia;
MAGIDSON >from Gomel, Youngstown and New York;
KLEINERT or Klein >from Gomel(?)
PINTCHUK >from Tomaszov Mazieowecki, Youngstown & Cleveland;
NUMBERG >from Lomza and Chicago;
GOLDER (GOLDFARB) >from Ostrolenka and Chicago.


LDS records #general

Julie Beardsley <jbeards1@...>
 

Hi Genners,
Over the weekend I went to the LDS family center in Los Angeles and did
some research on my family. I found a branch of our Jewish family with
dates up to about 1900, that had been added to the archives in Salt Lake
City by someone in that city whose name I did not recognize. I called the
phone number, thinking perhaps it was a relative. I asked the woman who
answered what relation this person was to my family. The woman told me
that it was her son and they were no relation at all. But he had entered
the family information. When I asked why, she said, Oh that's just what we
do. We baptize. Now, while I did get a couple of dates >from this LDS entry
that I didn't have before, which was a good thing, as I reflected on the
experience it made me feel a little strange. Especially after listening to
the woman helper at the Family Center telling the young Hispanic man next
to me that they were very happy to have Hispanic people searching for
their roots as they wanted to retroactively baptize as many people from
Mexico as they could because, as she said, they believe the Mexicans are
the Lost Tribe of Israel. I'm not going to tender an opinion about other
people's religion and my dead ancestors knew they were Jewish so I suppose
what someone else choses to believe about the state of their souls is
irrelevent. However, it did seem odd and maybe a little disrepectful?
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
Julie Beardsley

MODERATOR NOTE: This topic has been discussed before and that discussion
can be found in the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>. Enter
"LDS and baptism" and you will find many messages. Also, an Infofile
entitled "Baptisms of Jewish Holocaust victims - LDS agreement" can be
found at <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.txt>. Please keep
any further discussion relevant to genelaogy. Any further discussion of
Mormon baptisms should continue privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LDS records #general

Julie Beardsley <jbeards1@...>
 

Hi Genners,
Over the weekend I went to the LDS family center in Los Angeles and did
some research on my family. I found a branch of our Jewish family with
dates up to about 1900, that had been added to the archives in Salt Lake
City by someone in that city whose name I did not recognize. I called the
phone number, thinking perhaps it was a relative. I asked the woman who
answered what relation this person was to my family. The woman told me
that it was her son and they were no relation at all. But he had entered
the family information. When I asked why, she said, Oh that's just what we
do. We baptize. Now, while I did get a couple of dates >from this LDS entry
that I didn't have before, which was a good thing, as I reflected on the
experience it made me feel a little strange. Especially after listening to
the woman helper at the Family Center telling the young Hispanic man next
to me that they were very happy to have Hispanic people searching for
their roots as they wanted to retroactively baptize as many people from
Mexico as they could because, as she said, they believe the Mexicans are
the Lost Tribe of Israel. I'm not going to tender an opinion about other
people's religion and my dead ancestors knew they were Jewish so I suppose
what someone else choses to believe about the state of their souls is
irrelevent. However, it did seem odd and maybe a little disrepectful?
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
Julie Beardsley

MODERATOR NOTE: This topic has been discussed before and that discussion
can be found in the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>. Enter
"LDS and baptism" and you will find many messages. Also, an Infofile
entitled "Baptisms of Jewish Holocaust victims - LDS agreement" can be
found at <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.txt>. Please keep
any further discussion relevant to genelaogy. Any further discussion of
Mormon baptisms should continue privately.


1492 #general

Constance Cowen <connfromny@...>
 

Was the inquisition at this time? How could Isabella and Ferninand have
any Jewish blood since this is the time Jews were expelled >from Spain or
am I wrong. It is believed that Columbus was a Murano. Please clarify
for me . Thanks


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1492 #general

Constance Cowen <connfromny@...>
 

Was the inquisition at this time? How could Isabella and Ferninand have
any Jewish blood since this is the time Jews were expelled >from Spain or
am I wrong. It is believed that Columbus was a Murano. Please clarify
for me . Thanks


Re: Unknowingly marrying a sibling #general

ctf-genealogy@...
 

I don't think there is anything against marrying a sibling in Judaism.
Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings. There is, however, a law against it
in the USA. There may also be in other countries. I don't know. I have a
cousin marriage in my tree that left me confused for six months.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA
ctf-genealogy@...

From: <ifidont@...>
Last week Avrumy Heschel wrote:
<< One ramification of this is the possibility, albeit very remote of
someone unknowingly marrying a natural sister. Such an act is not only
forbidden in Jewish law but I believe is considered immoral by most
civilized people. There has been at least one documented incident in
Israel where an adopted child actually got engaged to a woman who turned
out to be his natural sister.>>

This should be even more of a concern for people conceived through
anonymous donor gametes. One man can, in theory at least, sire a great
many children through such donations, and all would be half-siblings to
each other. The same is true -- to a much lesser degree -- for a woman
who donates eggs. Since the resulting children don't receive much
information about their DNA donors (assuming they are even told the truth
about their conceptions), this makes unwitting marriage to a sibling a
very real possibility, even if it's still rather unlikely.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unknowingly marrying a sibling #general

ctf-genealogy@...
 

I don't think there is anything against marrying a sibling in Judaism.
Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings. There is, however, a law against it
in the USA. There may also be in other countries. I don't know. I have a
cousin marriage in my tree that left me confused for six months.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA
ctf-genealogy@...

From: <ifidont@...>
Last week Avrumy Heschel wrote:
<< One ramification of this is the possibility, albeit very remote of
someone unknowingly marrying a natural sister. Such an act is not only
forbidden in Jewish law but I believe is considered immoral by most
civilized people. There has been at least one documented incident in
Israel where an adopted child actually got engaged to a woman who turned
out to be his natural sister.>>

This should be even more of a concern for people conceived through
anonymous donor gametes. One man can, in theory at least, sire a great
many children through such donations, and all would be half-siblings to
each other. The same is true -- to a much lesser degree -- for a woman
who donates eggs. Since the resulting children don't receive much
information about their DNA donors (assuming they are even told the truth
about their conceptions), this makes unwitting marriage to a sibling a
very real possibility, even if it's still rather unlikely.


Re: Could a Helen be an Esther? #general

Edward Andelman <andelman@...>
 

Dear Sheree --it's hard to know. My sister, Helen Rose, was named for our
paternal g/mother Chaya Ruchel. 3 others named for her also had given
names: Ida, and another Helen.

Good luck,

Jeanne Blitzer Andelman
andelman@...
Cleveland, OH

Researching:
Mielnitza/Mielnica, Galicia, Austria, now Mel'nitza
Podolskaya,Ukraine--FLEISCHMAN, REITER, BLITZER, ZUKER-REINSTEIN
Tarnapol/Ternopil--FLEISCHMAN, REITER
Kudrynce, Bukovina, Austria, now Kudrintsy, Ukraine--REINSTEIN,
ZUKER,BLITZER

Sheree Roth wrote:

I just received a record >from Social Security. My ancestor lists his
mother's name as Helen. I had always thought that her name was Eti, Esti
or Esther. Since the dates listed are also a bit off, (but close) I am
wondering if I have the record for the right person. Do any of you know
any Helens who's Hebrew name is Esther? Thanks for your help.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Could a Helen be an Esther? #general

Edward Andelman <andelman@...>
 

Dear Sheree --it's hard to know. My sister, Helen Rose, was named for our
paternal g/mother Chaya Ruchel. 3 others named for her also had given
names: Ida, and another Helen.

Good luck,

Jeanne Blitzer Andelman
andelman@...
Cleveland, OH

Researching:
Mielnitza/Mielnica, Galicia, Austria, now Mel'nitza
Podolskaya,Ukraine--FLEISCHMAN, REITER, BLITZER, ZUKER-REINSTEIN
Tarnapol/Ternopil--FLEISCHMAN, REITER
Kudrynce, Bukovina, Austria, now Kudrintsy, Ukraine--REINSTEIN,
ZUKER,BLITZER

Sheree Roth wrote:

I just received a record >from Social Security. My ancestor lists his
mother's name as Helen. I had always thought that her name was Eti, Esti
or Esther. Since the dates listed are also a bit off, (but close) I am
wondering if I have the record for the right person. Do any of you know
any Helens who's Hebrew name is Esther? Thanks for your help.


Rosanne LEESON - Can't Email you #general

Sandyhshor@...
 

Have tried to reply to your very nice letter to the JG Mall but it gets
returned.

If you have a new email address please send it to us privately at

donsandyh@....

Thanks.

Sandy Hirschhorn for
JewishGen Mall
Boca Raton, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rosanne LEESON - Can't Email you #general

Sandyhshor@...
 

Have tried to reply to your very nice letter to the JG Mall but it gets
returned.

If you have a new email address please send it to us privately at

donsandyh@....

Thanks.

Sandy Hirschhorn for
JewishGen Mall
Boca Raton, FL


SefardSIG: Sephardic Genealogy at JewishGen - updated name and address #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

Re: Revised Name & URL

Responding to the wishes of Sefard Forum subscribers, both the name and URL
address of the SephardicSIG has been changed. Please update your address
books and links accordingly.

-Old-
SephardicSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/sephardicsig/

-New-
SefardSIG: Sephardic Genealogy at JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/sefardsig/

Jeff Malka, Webmaster,
SefardSIG: Sephardic Genealogy at JewishGen
malkajef@...

Bernard Kouchel, List Manager,
Sefard Forum: E-mail Discussion Group For Researchers Of Sephardic Genealogy
bkouchel@...
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/SefardForum.htm


Natrualization #general

renee1056@...
 

Hi Geeners
My m grandparents came to NYC in 1906 is it possible that they never were
naturalized as there seems to be no record of it accuring. I just found
out that they never had social security # either. My grandfather died in
1949. How would I find the death certificate and would it give me
information as to who his parents were or is this my dead end to any
information about their past and what happened to any of their parents or
sisters or brothers or their decendents.
Happy Passover
Shalom
Renee Marcus, Spring Hill, Fl.
searching for ZALMANOV, FRAYERMAN, FREIERMAN, FREIMAN, BOSKIN (or any
spelling thereof)