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Weinberger family #galicia

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Dear Bertha,

The Weinberger family >from Dynow had some members that moved to Munkacz. In
Encyclopedia Me'orei Galicia, by R" Meir Wunder, in volume 3, page 97, he
writes of Nechemia Weinberger, grandson of the Bnei Yissochur, that lived
in Munkacz. Does that help at all?

-Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com

At 06:02 AM 12/7/00 -0500, Berthacam@aol.com wrote:

I am looking for my grandfather's family who came >from the of Rzepnik. in
Galicia.
He came >from a religious family. He moved to NowySacz. I am also looking
for the Teitelbaum family >from Nowy Sacz?

The Weinberger Family came >from Dynov , Does any know if a Yiskor book was
written on the above towns?

Bertha Schwarz


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Weinberger family #galicia

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Dear Bertha,

The Weinberger family >from Dynow had some members that moved to Munkacz. In
Encyclopedia Me'orei Galicia, by R" Meir Wunder, in volume 3, page 97, he
writes of Nechemia Weinberger, grandson of the Bnei Yissochur, that lived
in Munkacz. Does that help at all?

-Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com

At 06:02 AM 12/7/00 -0500, Berthacam@aol.com wrote:

I am looking for my grandfather's family who came >from the of Rzepnik. in
Galicia.
He came >from a religious family. He moved to NowySacz. I am also looking
for the Teitelbaum family >from Nowy Sacz?

The Weinberger Family came >from Dynov , Does any know if a Yiskor book was
written on the above towns?

Bertha Schwarz


Re: Revolutionary War Patriot Pensions #usa

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

There were no prohibitions against land ownership by Jews in the colonies.
there were land grants as early as 1648 in Virginia.
The prohibitions were in many European countries, but not universal.
Sometimes the prohibitions were concerning certain types of land-- such as
in Russia, Jews were not permitted to own land farmed by serfs/peasants.

In fact, even in Florida, where Jews were prohibited to live openly under
the Spanish, Jews were permitted to purchase land grants before the final
sale of the territory to the United States.
Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin
Winter Park, FL
Professional Genealogist

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, rebecca baldwin wrote:

Hi-
I had a thought this morning and wanted to ask-
Could Jews own land in the United States during the time of the American
Revolution? I heard there was a time when Jews couldn't own land.
If so, how did they approach the problem of being awarded a pension for
services rendered during the American Revolutionary War?

Becky Baldwin


Early American SIG #USA Re: Revolutionary War Patriot Pensions #usa

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

There were no prohibitions against land ownership by Jews in the colonies.
there were land grants as early as 1648 in Virginia.
The prohibitions were in many European countries, but not universal.
Sometimes the prohibitions were concerning certain types of land-- such as
in Russia, Jews were not permitted to own land farmed by serfs/peasants.

In fact, even in Florida, where Jews were prohibited to live openly under
the Spanish, Jews were permitted to purchase land grants before the final
sale of the territory to the United States.
Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin
Winter Park, FL
Professional Genealogist

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, rebecca baldwin wrote:

Hi-
I had a thought this morning and wanted to ask-
Could Jews own land in the United States during the time of the American
Revolution? I heard there was a time when Jews couldn't own land.
If so, how did they approach the problem of being awarded a pension for
services rendered during the American Revolutionary War?

Becky Baldwin


Re: What are we talking about #usa

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

I am new to this list and have a problem. I have received several =
messages like:

"Dear Becky,

Further to my previous note, you also did not say where these=20
family members were located. Each city and state has potential=20
records of that time but they surely are all different. Were they New
Yorkers? There are many NY records. I have a book that talks=20
about the early Jews of Easton, Pa. ..."

What are you talking about? Is this really a private message to Becky =
which was inadvertantly sent to the group? Or was this meant for =
everyone?

Please quote previous notes or the subject matter you are talking about, =
so I (and I am sure others) get clued in. The list is not much use =
otherwise.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Early American SIG #USA Re: What are we talking about #usa

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

I am new to this list and have a problem. I have received several =
messages like:

"Dear Becky,

Further to my previous note, you also did not say where these=20
family members were located. Each city and state has potential=20
records of that time but they surely are all different. Were they New
Yorkers? There are many NY records. I have a book that talks=20
about the early Jews of Easton, Pa. ..."

What are you talking about? Is this really a private message to Becky =
which was inadvertantly sent to the group? Or was this meant for =
everyone?

Please quote previous notes or the subject matter you are talking about, =
so I (and I am sure others) get clued in. The list is not much use =
otherwise.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


SILVERMAN/ZILBERMAN/SILBERMAN #general

JoanSGross@...
 

I am researching the Silverman family who came >from Lithuania. One branch
emmigrated to Eretz Israel in the mid-to-early 1800's. Others emmigrated to
the USA via Liverpoole and New York and then moved on to Philadelphia, PA.
ca 1875 or earlier.

The 1890 Philadelphia (Penna.) Directory lists three Silvermans at 603
Clymer Street:

Woolf Silverman
Isaac Silverman
Morris Silverman

I am not sure if this is a father and two sons or 3 brothers or any other
combination. Does anyone researching a Silverman family have any
information on these men?

Joan S. Gross


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SILVERMAN/ZILBERMAN/SILBERMAN #general

JoanSGross@...
 

I am researching the Silverman family who came >from Lithuania. One branch
emmigrated to Eretz Israel in the mid-to-early 1800's. Others emmigrated to
the USA via Liverpoole and New York and then moved on to Philadelphia, PA.
ca 1875 or earlier.

The 1890 Philadelphia (Penna.) Directory lists three Silvermans at 603
Clymer Street:

Woolf Silverman
Isaac Silverman
Morris Silverman

I am not sure if this is a father and two sons or 3 brothers or any other
combination. Does anyone researching a Silverman family have any
information on these men?

Joan S. Gross


Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

P. Gowans <p2g@...>
 

Lois Sernoff wrote:
The postings to which I made comment
are the ones that are tantamount to the request for "my file" . . . . .



Please-- what's a "my file" request? I've seen it mentioned here before. Is
it a good or a bad thing?

Thanks,
Paula Gowans
Sydney


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

P. Gowans <p2g@...>
 

Lois Sernoff wrote:
The postings to which I made comment
are the ones that are tantamount to the request for "my file" . . . . .



Please-- what's a "my file" request? I've seen it mentioned here before. Is
it a good or a bad thing?

Thanks,
Paula Gowans
Sydney


Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

Glenda Rubin <glendarubin@...>
 

Although I usually don't get into these kinds of frays, I don't believe
that Lois Sernoff deserves the responses to her posting. After reading her
original posting, I disagree with the notion, as one responder wrote, that
Ms. Sernoff "effectively stated that those of us who are new or not well
versed...are not welcome."

Often there are postings that ask for information that is available by
doing a little investigation, looking, yourself, but are posed to the group
because (I believe) it's quicker and easier to write the question than it
is to look for the answer. I've been a JewishGen subscriber for over four
years, and often the answers posted to these questions indicate that the
respondent didn't have the information at his/her fingertips, but rather
did some (not necessarily complicated) real or virtual footwork. It's
often been pointed out that some subscribers pay phone charges for every
minute they're online, and it's not fair that they should have to pay to
download these kinds of messages.

I would assume that Lois was using the general "you," and if "you" know
that the statements don't apply to "you", "you" don't "have to" take offense.

I don't suggest that everyone has to preface their posts with: "I've
already.....", but, in my opinion, it would be much more helpful,
interesting, and enlightening if, among the other kinds of messages,
postings to the group were one level deeper than requesting information
that is readily available by other means.

Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
glendarubin@earthlink.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

Glenda Rubin <glendarubin@...>
 

Although I usually don't get into these kinds of frays, I don't believe
that Lois Sernoff deserves the responses to her posting. After reading her
original posting, I disagree with the notion, as one responder wrote, that
Ms. Sernoff "effectively stated that those of us who are new or not well
versed...are not welcome."

Often there are postings that ask for information that is available by
doing a little investigation, looking, yourself, but are posed to the group
because (I believe) it's quicker and easier to write the question than it
is to look for the answer. I've been a JewishGen subscriber for over four
years, and often the answers posted to these questions indicate that the
respondent didn't have the information at his/her fingertips, but rather
did some (not necessarily complicated) real or virtual footwork. It's
often been pointed out that some subscribers pay phone charges for every
minute they're online, and it's not fair that they should have to pay to
download these kinds of messages.

I would assume that Lois was using the general "you," and if "you" know
that the statements don't apply to "you", "you" don't "have to" take offense.

I don't suggest that everyone has to preface their posts with: "I've
already.....", but, in my opinion, it would be much more helpful,
interesting, and enlightening if, among the other kinds of messages,
postings to the group were one level deeper than requesting information
that is readily available by other means.

Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
glendarubin@earthlink.net


JOSKOWICZ, SZPICAK, EDELMAN, BECZKOWSKI(A) in Lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow JRI-ers,

I have recently learned of the surnames JOSKOWICZ, EDELMAN, BECZKOWSKI /
BENCZKOWSKA, SZPICAK in conection with my family and would like to hear >from
anyone with any information about these family members.

JOSKOWICZ, Hinda, b. 1908 Lodz, deported to Auschwitz in August 1944, after
the liquidation of the Lodz ghetto, with her daughter Rywka Ides ROTBEIN,
born 1935 in Lodz.
..........Parents of Hinda were: Moszek JOSKOWICZ and Rywka SZPICAK, both
probably born 1878 in Lodz and married there in 1898. Hinda's husband, Symcha
ROTBEIN, was an electrician in Lodz.

BECZKOWSKA, Ita Hudesa, b. abt. 1900, married to ROTBAJN, Henoch, b. 1898
Piotrkow Trybunalski
..........Henoch died in the Lodz ghetto and their daughter Rojza (1941-1942)
was deported to Chelmno.

EDELMAN, Laja, born 1906, married to ROTBAJN, Abram Josef (born 1892 in
Piotrko-Tryb.), "kamancznik" in Lodz.
..........Laja and her son, Leon / Lajb (born 1934), were deported >from the
Lodz ghetto to probably Chelmno in 1942.

I would very much appreciate hearing >from anyone with further information.
Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas
Seflaum@aol.com


JRI Poland #Poland JOSKOWICZ, SZPICAK, EDELMAN, BECZKOWSKI(A) in Lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow JRI-ers,

I have recently learned of the surnames JOSKOWICZ, EDELMAN, BECZKOWSKI /
BENCZKOWSKA, SZPICAK in conection with my family and would like to hear >from
anyone with any information about these family members.

JOSKOWICZ, Hinda, b. 1908 Lodz, deported to Auschwitz in August 1944, after
the liquidation of the Lodz ghetto, with her daughter Rywka Ides ROTBEIN,
born 1935 in Lodz.
..........Parents of Hinda were: Moszek JOSKOWICZ and Rywka SZPICAK, both
probably born 1878 in Lodz and married there in 1898. Hinda's husband, Symcha
ROTBEIN, was an electrician in Lodz.

BECZKOWSKA, Ita Hudesa, b. abt. 1900, married to ROTBAJN, Henoch, b. 1898
Piotrkow Trybunalski
..........Henoch died in the Lodz ghetto and their daughter Rojza (1941-1942)
was deported to Chelmno.

EDELMAN, Laja, born 1906, married to ROTBAJN, Abram Josef (born 1892 in
Piotrko-Tryb.), "kamancznik" in Lodz.
..........Laja and her son, Leon / Lajb (born 1934), were deported >from the
Lodz ghetto to probably Chelmno in 1942.

I would very much appreciate hearing >from anyone with further information.
Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas
Seflaum@aol.com


tishler #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

-- Original Message --

On a ship manifest, a great-uncle's occupation is listed as "tischler."
Would someone please translate this for me? Thank you.
Alan Benjamin
A tischler is a carpenter in Yidish, a tisch is a table in Yidisch and in
Geman.
Alter Ophir
alterdina@ashdot-a.org.il


Re: Family Clarification #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Stewart Bernstein wrote:

"I would appreciate any hel in clarifying the following information
which is >from a Polich Archive document.

#1-Lipa Nestempover, twenty year old, daughter of Moshek and Sheina-Eli
born Abramovitch, husband and wife Nestempover.

Is the mother of Lipa, Sheina-Eli the daughter of Abramovitch (previous
to official last names) or the Niestempover family?

#2-Mos'ka and Shein, spouses Niestempover

This on another document. Again is Shein >from the Niestenpover family
Also, in a previous document, I have Moshek Niestenpover, married to
Shein. Would one assume that the above Sheina-Eli, be the same person as
Shein, without the Eli attached? Would the Eli be her father or
grandfather's name?"

Lipa's parents were Moshek Nestempover and Sheina-Eli Abramovitch.

Abramovitch is a family name-you would say Sheina-Eli Abramovna without
the 'born' if it was a patronymic (-ovitch is for men, -ovna is for
women). Born is like we use nee (on the society page) for a maiden
name.

I think that the Eli part is a diminutive of Sheina-Scheinele is little
Sheina. Eli is not a girl's name and her father's name would not be
given this way.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen tishler #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

-- Original Message --

On a ship manifest, a great-uncle's occupation is listed as "tischler."
Would someone please translate this for me? Thank you.
Alan Benjamin
A tischler is a carpenter in Yidish, a tisch is a table in Yidisch and in
Geman.
Alter Ophir
alterdina@ashdot-a.org.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family Clarification #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Stewart Bernstein wrote:

"I would appreciate any hel in clarifying the following information
which is >from a Polich Archive document.

#1-Lipa Nestempover, twenty year old, daughter of Moshek and Sheina-Eli
born Abramovitch, husband and wife Nestempover.

Is the mother of Lipa, Sheina-Eli the daughter of Abramovitch (previous
to official last names) or the Niestempover family?

#2-Mos'ka and Shein, spouses Niestempover

This on another document. Again is Shein >from the Niestenpover family
Also, in a previous document, I have Moshek Niestenpover, married to
Shein. Would one assume that the above Sheina-Eli, be the same person as
Shein, without the Eli attached? Would the Eli be her father or
grandfather's name?"

Lipa's parents were Moshek Nestempover and Sheina-Eli Abramovitch.

Abramovitch is a family name-you would say Sheina-Eli Abramovna without
the 'born' if it was a patronymic (-ovitch is for men, -ovna is for
women). Born is like we use nee (on the society page) for a maiden
name.

I think that the Eli part is a diminutive of Sheina-Scheinele is little
Sheina. Eli is not a girl's name and her father's name would not be
given this way.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Kalman BERGER and (?) Boshe FEL(D)MAN #general

Richard <richard@...>
 

I am looking for info on my 2nd great grandfather. He was a Russian(?)
Jew who immigrated to America around the turn of the century. Any info
that anyone could provide would be wonderful. The rebecca in this line is
my great grandmother. Please send replies to richard@olivetree.net

Regards,

Richard Blalock


Husband: Kalman Berger
Born at: Russia
Died: 1907 at: Brooklyn, NY

Wife: Boshe Feldman
Born at: Russia
Died: 1918 at: Brooklyn, NY

Children:

Name: Rebecca Berger
Born: 14 Sep 1888 at: Russia
Died: 5 Feb 1951 at: Long Island, NY ??
Spouses: Natham Shenkin

Name: Max Berger

Name: Annie Berger

Name: Bessie Berger

Name: Louie Berger

Name: Gussie Berger

Name: Yetta Berger


Smalian / Smalyan? Rabbi Yoel of Smalian #general

Udi Cain
 

Dear all.

In letters >from 1778 until 1817 (all in Hebrew), I have the place name
Smalian.
Actually the person that I'm interested in, who appears in all these
letters, is
rabbi Yoel ben Moshe.
In Hebrew, the name of the shtet'l is: Samech Mem Lammed Yud Yud Allef Nun.
Shtet'l seeker brings me to Orsha gubernia, and the only place near Orsha
(between Mogilev & Vitebsk), that looks right, is Smolensk. Is it the same
as Smalian?
Rabbi Yoel Ben Moshe, came to Smalian >from Shklov. First time he appears in
a letter that Admor Abraham of Kalisk wrote to him >from Tiberias in 1778,
last signature of Rabbi Yoel, appears on a letter >from Tiberias (to which he
first arrived in 1786) in 1817, Does any one has any knowledge about him? He
was the third in the "hierarchy" of Hassidic Rabbis' in Tveria, right after
Rabbi Menachem Mendel of Vitebsk and Rabbi Abraham of Kalisk.
I think that his father, Rabbi Moshe. was the brother of Rabbi Aharon the
great >from Karlin, and his mother, daughter of Admor Chaim Chaik'l of Amdur.
Any confirmation?

Best regards >from Jerusalem. Udi Cain (Chaikin).