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Duma List Project Status - Need Some More Help #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

As some of you know, the SIG purchased a mix of Minsk Gubernia 1906 and
1907 Duma (Voter) Lists in hard copy format over a year ago. These
include the ueyzds of Minsk, Borisov, Mozyr, Slutsk, Igumen, Novogrudok,
and Pinsk, as well as part of the Pinsk City list.

Gladys Paulin completed the Rechitsa ueyzd 1906 Duma list prior to the
SIG purchasing the lists for the other Minsk gubernia ueyzds and her
efforts can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/rechitsa.htm

Tbe 1906 Brobruisk ueyzd list was not purchased by the SIG because the
this list had already been obtained by the Bobruisk Interest Group. They
have started to transliterate it, but have not finished. The partially
complete list can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetLinks/bobruisk/duma/2dumfram.html

The transliteration of the Duma lists for Slutsk, Novogrudok, Pinsk, and
Mozyr ueyzds have been completed and should be available on the SIG
website shortly.

A partial list of Pinsk City was all that was available (through the
letter K) and this has been transliterated. Attempts are being made now
to try and locate the remainding pages >from other sources. The partial
Pinsk City duma list will also be available soon.

MINSK ueyzd
Two four of the volunteers working one these lists were unable to
complete their assigned pages. One group of pages has 4,200 entries and
the other group has 3,100. We need some volunteers to take over this
task and get it completed. The lists are in Cyrillic and are printed
(not script). If you want an opportunity to help the SIG and perhaps
learn Cyrillic, Edward Rosenbaum can provide you with instructions on
how to get started. Please contact Edward at <elr228@bellatlantic.net>.

IGUMEN ueyzd
One of the two volunteers for this ueyzd was only able to complete about
half of her assigned pages. There are approximate 900 entries left to
transliterate. If anyone can work on the remaining entries, please
contact Edward Rosenbaum <elr228@bellatlantic.net>.

BORISOV ueyzd
One of the two volunteers for this list was not able to work on their
portion of the list. Only half of this list has been complete. There
are still, about 1,600 entries that need to be transliterated. I have
already contacted Mike Levine, an active Borisov researcher to ask him
if he would be interested in doing the rest of the Borisov list, but if
you are interested in working on this list, please contact Edward
Rosenbaum.

GRODNO gubernia
The 1906 Grodno gubernia duma lists are now available for transliteration
and if anyone would like to work on these, please contact Judy Bennett
<benne034@tc.umn.edu> to volunteer your services.

Here is an opportunity to help get a lot more names into the All Belarus
Database (ABD). I urge some of you to please come forward and help us
get this project completed. Very shortly we will be announcing another
exciting project and I would like to get this one completed before we
start something new. Thanks in advance.

Dave
--
David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD USA
Belarus SIG Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus Duma List Project Status - Need Some More Help #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

As some of you know, the SIG purchased a mix of Minsk Gubernia 1906 and
1907 Duma (Voter) Lists in hard copy format over a year ago. These
include the ueyzds of Minsk, Borisov, Mozyr, Slutsk, Igumen, Novogrudok,
and Pinsk, as well as part of the Pinsk City list.

Gladys Paulin completed the Rechitsa ueyzd 1906 Duma list prior to the
SIG purchasing the lists for the other Minsk gubernia ueyzds and her
efforts can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/rechitsa.htm

Tbe 1906 Brobruisk ueyzd list was not purchased by the SIG because the
this list had already been obtained by the Bobruisk Interest Group. They
have started to transliterate it, but have not finished. The partially
complete list can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetLinks/bobruisk/duma/2dumfram.html

The transliteration of the Duma lists for Slutsk, Novogrudok, Pinsk, and
Mozyr ueyzds have been completed and should be available on the SIG
website shortly.

A partial list of Pinsk City was all that was available (through the
letter K) and this has been transliterated. Attempts are being made now
to try and locate the remainding pages >from other sources. The partial
Pinsk City duma list will also be available soon.

MINSK ueyzd
Two four of the volunteers working one these lists were unable to
complete their assigned pages. One group of pages has 4,200 entries and
the other group has 3,100. We need some volunteers to take over this
task and get it completed. The lists are in Cyrillic and are printed
(not script). If you want an opportunity to help the SIG and perhaps
learn Cyrillic, Edward Rosenbaum can provide you with instructions on
how to get started. Please contact Edward at <elr228@bellatlantic.net>.

IGUMEN ueyzd
One of the two volunteers for this ueyzd was only able to complete about
half of her assigned pages. There are approximate 900 entries left to
transliterate. If anyone can work on the remaining entries, please
contact Edward Rosenbaum <elr228@bellatlantic.net>.

BORISOV ueyzd
One of the two volunteers for this list was not able to work on their
portion of the list. Only half of this list has been complete. There
are still, about 1,600 entries that need to be transliterated. I have
already contacted Mike Levine, an active Borisov researcher to ask him
if he would be interested in doing the rest of the Borisov list, but if
you are interested in working on this list, please contact Edward
Rosenbaum.

GRODNO gubernia
The 1906 Grodno gubernia duma lists are now available for transliteration
and if anyone would like to work on these, please contact Judy Bennett
<benne034@tc.umn.edu> to volunteer your services.

Here is an opportunity to help get a lot more names into the All Belarus
Database (ABD). I urge some of you to please come forward and help us
get this project completed. Very shortly we will be announcing another
exciting project and I would like to get this one completed before we
start something new. Thanks in advance.

Dave
--
David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD USA
Belarus SIG Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


NYC death certificates ARE available through LDS #general

Gloria Bailey <auletta1@...>
 

Sally Bruckheimer wrote:

While the Index to New York City deaths is available at the Mormon FHL,
the certificates themselves are not-with a few small exceptions. Once
you have the information >from the index (year is enough if you don't
have a common name) you have to write to the NY City Archives. New York
State vital records are available in the county or town where they
occurred, in filmed indexes at the LDS church, and in Albany. Note: NY
City records are not in Albany.
This is not totally true. It depends on the time period you are searching.
I have found many death certificates for my family >from New York City. In
fact, death certificates >from Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan are available
through 1949. For Staten Island they are available through 1947. Again, I
would urge researchers to look at the actual death certificates if they are
available through the LDS. You will find it faster and cheaper than
mailing off to New York.

Also, if you have not yet purchased the Family History Library Catalog from
Familysearch, I would urge you to do so. It is so easy to search at home
at your leisure rather than while at the Family History Library and you can
use your limited time at the library to actually view the films.

Gloria Auletta Bailey
Searching OSHEROWITZ & GINSBURG in Romanovo or Slutzk, Minsk, Belarus
and SCHILDKRAUT in Pogost, Minsk, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC death certificates ARE available through LDS #general

Gloria Bailey <auletta1@...>
 

Sally Bruckheimer wrote:

While the Index to New York City deaths is available at the Mormon FHL,
the certificates themselves are not-with a few small exceptions. Once
you have the information >from the index (year is enough if you don't
have a common name) you have to write to the NY City Archives. New York
State vital records are available in the county or town where they
occurred, in filmed indexes at the LDS church, and in Albany. Note: NY
City records are not in Albany.
This is not totally true. It depends on the time period you are searching.
I have found many death certificates for my family >from New York City. In
fact, death certificates >from Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan are available
through 1949. For Staten Island they are available through 1947. Again, I
would urge researchers to look at the actual death certificates if they are
available through the LDS. You will find it faster and cheaper than
mailing off to New York.

Also, if you have not yet purchased the Family History Library Catalog from
Familysearch, I would urge you to do so. It is so easy to search at home
at your leisure rather than while at the Family History Library and you can
use your limited time at the library to actually view the films.

Gloria Auletta Bailey
Searching OSHEROWITZ & GINSBURG in Romanovo or Slutzk, Minsk, Belarus
and SCHILDKRAUT in Pogost, Minsk, Belarus


Translation and name query #general

Norman Greenfeld
 

My wife's ggm, Leah Devorah Freedman was the daughter of R. Yaakov
Koppel. It has been suggested that KOPPEL might be a Yiddish equivalent
of Yaakov. Confirmation?
Also, after many years, finally came across the name ONGEIBERG, my
mother's family...in the recent Belarus listing...of 1914 draft
dodgers!!! Anyone else (Besides David Curwin) familiar with that name?
To those who took photographs in Beth El Cemetery....million thanks.
Norman Greenfeld
Albany NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation and name query #general

Norman Greenfeld
 

My wife's ggm, Leah Devorah Freedman was the daughter of R. Yaakov
Koppel. It has been suggested that KOPPEL might be a Yiddish equivalent
of Yaakov. Confirmation?
Also, after many years, finally came across the name ONGEIBERG, my
mother's family...in the recent Belarus listing...of 1914 draft
dodgers!!! Anyone else (Besides David Curwin) familiar with that name?
To those who took photographs in Beth El Cemetery....million thanks.
Norman Greenfeld
Albany NY


Re: Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #general

msearl@...
 

Coincidentally, I am in New Rochelle on a business trip tonight. In the
phone book, the temple is listed as Beth El Synagogue-Center, Northfield Rd
Cr., New Rochelle 914 235 2700. If I can find it and have some time
tomorrow, I will see what I can dig up.

Margie Searl

-----Original Message-----
From: Hafcjf@aol.com
Subject: Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a
Bess and Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle,
NY. I have been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs
and know that they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a
store selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery.
This was successful and he opened another store and made his brother David
the manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run
by his brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several
office buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite
likely that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to
this shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned
about this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could
contact (preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com
mailto:hafcjf@aol.com


Problems with AOL 6.0? #lithuania

TheGrannyB@...
 

I had just downloaded AOL 6.0 when there was a message on LitvakSIG that
there were problems with messages sent to LitvakSIG using the new version of AOL. I wasn't concerned because I'm a rank beginner and am learning so much >from the Digest and can't imagine being able to contribute. Now I'm
wondering if there are problems receiving the Digest if you are using version 6.0. I have received very few messages since the upgrade and have seen a few responses to queries that I haven't seen. Are you aware of
incompatibilities between AOL 6.0 and receiving the LitvakSIG Digest?

I am a bit surprised by how very much I miss hearing >from and about these folks I've begun to think of as friends.

Connie Buchanan
thegrannyb@aol.com

Researching AVNER and OVCHINSKY >from KAPCIAMIESTIS and SUWALKI (now Poland)
and HAMILTON, ONTARIO CANADA


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sending a message with AOL 6.0 results in the message being laden with MIME encoding (your moderator was able to remove all the coded symbols >from Connie's message). But as far as we know, the occasional problem receiving the Litvak SIG Digest (as well as the JewishGen Digest and others using the lyris moderation software) is caused by AOL in general, not merely version 6.0.

As we've noted before, AOL will sometimes read the digest as "spam" and not send them out. Of course there may be days in which no Litvak SIG subscribers send messages to the Digest. But if you are an AOL user and do not receive your Litvak SIG Digest at the expected time, send a message to <lyris@lyris.jewishgen.org> Leave the subject line blank, or if your e-mail program requires it, put a dot in the subject line. In the body of the message, write: get litvaksig yyyymmdd. Remember that the digest is dated for the previous day.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #general

msearl@...
 

Coincidentally, I am in New Rochelle on a business trip tonight. In the
phone book, the temple is listed as Beth El Synagogue-Center, Northfield Rd
Cr., New Rochelle 914 235 2700. If I can find it and have some time
tomorrow, I will see what I can dig up.

Margie Searl

-----Original Message-----
From: Hafcjf@aol.com
Subject: Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a
Bess and Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle,
NY. I have been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs
and know that they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a
store selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery.
This was successful and he opened another store and made his brother David
the manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run
by his brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several
office buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite
likely that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to
this shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned
about this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could
contact (preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com
mailto:hafcjf@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Problems with AOL 6.0? #lithuania

TheGrannyB@...
 

I had just downloaded AOL 6.0 when there was a message on LitvakSIG that
there were problems with messages sent to LitvakSIG using the new version of AOL. I wasn't concerned because I'm a rank beginner and am learning so much >from the Digest and can't imagine being able to contribute. Now I'm
wondering if there are problems receiving the Digest if you are using version 6.0. I have received very few messages since the upgrade and have seen a few responses to queries that I haven't seen. Are you aware of
incompatibilities between AOL 6.0 and receiving the LitvakSIG Digest?

I am a bit surprised by how very much I miss hearing >from and about these folks I've begun to think of as friends.

Connie Buchanan
thegrannyb@aol.com

Researching AVNER and OVCHINSKY >from KAPCIAMIESTIS and SUWALKI (now Poland)
and HAMILTON, ONTARIO CANADA


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sending a message with AOL 6.0 results in the message being laden with MIME encoding (your moderator was able to remove all the coded symbols >from Connie's message). But as far as we know, the occasional problem receiving the Litvak SIG Digest (as well as the JewishGen Digest and others using the lyris moderation software) is caused by AOL in general, not merely version 6.0.

As we've noted before, AOL will sometimes read the digest as "spam" and not send them out. Of course there may be days in which no Litvak SIG subscribers send messages to the Digest. But if you are an AOL user and do not receive your Litvak SIG Digest at the expected time, send a message to <lyris@lyris.jewishgen.org> Leave the subject line blank, or if your e-mail program requires it, put a dot in the subject line. In the body of the message, write: get litvaksig yyyymmdd. Remember that the digest is dated for the previous day.


Mollova #general

bandeklein@...
 

I have been following the Mogilev discussion because of abranch I am
researching. My husband's grandfather listed Mollova, Ukraine as his
birthplace on the 1920 census. For years people told me that must be
Mogilev, Belarus. I never believed this and always felt he was from
closer to Romania and Moldova. My husband's aunt died recently and in
her papers they found his Naturalization Certificate. It list Mollova,
Podalia, Russia as his place of birth. I still haven't fpund the town on
a map but I now know that Mollova is not Mogilev in Belarus.

Elinor Klein
<bandeklein@juno.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mollova #general

bandeklein@...
 

I have been following the Mogilev discussion because of abranch I am
researching. My husband's grandfather listed Mollova, Ukraine as his
birthplace on the 1920 census. For years people told me that must be
Mogilev, Belarus. I never believed this and always felt he was from
closer to Romania and Moldova. My husband's aunt died recently and in
her papers they found his Naturalization Certificate. It list Mollova,
Podalia, Russia as his place of birth. I still haven't fpund the town on
a map but I now know that Mollova is not Mogilev in Belarus.

Elinor Klein
<bandeklein@juno.com>


searching for a good book of maps #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

A while ago I was recommended to the following book of maps:

"Historical Atlas of East Central Europe by Paul Robert Magocsi"

It apparently shows what happened to the boundaries of the countries of
East Central Europe over the past centuries. Although it is listed by
[commercial reference deleted],they have just informed me that it is no
longer available.

Can someone recommend an alternate?

Thanks,
Saul Goldstone
Saratoga, CA
sgoldsto@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen searching for a good book of maps #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

A while ago I was recommended to the following book of maps:

"Historical Atlas of East Central Europe by Paul Robert Magocsi"

It apparently shows what happened to the boundaries of the countries of
East Central Europe over the past centuries. Although it is listed by
[commercial reference deleted],they have just informed me that it is no
longer available.

Can someone recommend an alternate?

Thanks,
Saul Goldstone
Saratoga, CA
sgoldsto@ix.netcom.com


Re: Success with an Indifferent Relative #general

ctf-vif@...
 

I do not wish to dispute this helpful hint >from Marion Price. One thing to
consider, though, is how would you feel if some stranger suddenly
telephoned you and claimed to be a relative? In this age of identity
stealing, people are wise to not trust too much too quickly.

Of course, the situation is very different when a relative knows that you
are a relative and simply refuses to cooperate.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA, USA
ctf-vif@mindspring.com

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN, FRIEDMAN, LENETT, HOFFMAN,
KORLAND/KURLAND, KROMHOLTZ/KRUMHOLTZ, RECHMAN, SCHECH/SCHECK, SCHIFF,
SKLOFF, THURLIN, ZEIDELMAN

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobmar37@aol.com <Bobmar37@aol.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Success with an Indifferent Relative


Several years ago another genner told me about a woman she met who came
from Germany and has family >from the same town that I do. She now lives in
a small town in Louisiana, one that we have stopped in for lunch when
travelling.
[snip]

Marian Price
Round Rock, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Success with an Indifferent Relative #general

ctf-vif@...
 

I do not wish to dispute this helpful hint >from Marion Price. One thing to
consider, though, is how would you feel if some stranger suddenly
telephoned you and claimed to be a relative? In this age of identity
stealing, people are wise to not trust too much too quickly.

Of course, the situation is very different when a relative knows that you
are a relative and simply refuses to cooperate.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA, USA
ctf-vif@mindspring.com

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN, FRIEDMAN, LENETT, HOFFMAN,
KORLAND/KURLAND, KROMHOLTZ/KRUMHOLTZ, RECHMAN, SCHECH/SCHECK, SCHIFF,
SKLOFF, THURLIN, ZEIDELMAN

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobmar37@aol.com <Bobmar37@aol.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Success with an Indifferent Relative


Several years ago another genner told me about a woman she met who came
from Germany and has family >from the same town that I do. She now lives in
a small town in Louisiana, one that we have stopped in for lunch when
travelling.
[snip]

Marian Price
Round Rock, TX


Need help with the Hamburg Emigration website #general

Morton Cohen <cohenme@...>
 

After searching the Archives it seems the form of searchable fields at the
Hamburg Website have been changed since I visited some months ago,

My most recent search produced a "hit" that might have been my gm Sara
Rabinowitz. However the name is not rare and one would look to the "other
fields" for supporting data. In this case the record found indicates "Yes"
in the field identified as "Family Members". I find no explanation of
whether that means she is traveling with family member or is to be met by
family members. I assumed the former and tried, without success to
identify a passenger who might match up with my gf. I would welcome
suggestions of how one might clarify the Family Member question.

Similarly the record gives "Place of Residence" as Kovno which fits but,
unless there is another search form, it appears that the ability to search
based on that field is no longer presented. Is there another search
approach and if so how is it accessed?
TIA


Brenner-Fleischman from Ponevezh-Shavli Lithuania #general

Sharon Fleischman <adjusterbob@...>
 

I am searching family names Brenner and Fleischman >from the areas around
Ligum and Pokroi Lithuania


Robert Fleischman
adjusterbob@worldnet.att.net
Miami Beach, Fl.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help with the Hamburg Emigration website #general

Morton Cohen <cohenme@...>
 

After searching the Archives it seems the form of searchable fields at the
Hamburg Website have been changed since I visited some months ago,

My most recent search produced a "hit" that might have been my gm Sara
Rabinowitz. However the name is not rare and one would look to the "other
fields" for supporting data. In this case the record found indicates "Yes"
in the field identified as "Family Members". I find no explanation of
whether that means she is traveling with family member or is to be met by
family members. I assumed the former and tried, without success to
identify a passenger who might match up with my gf. I would welcome
suggestions of how one might clarify the Family Member question.

Similarly the record gives "Place of Residence" as Kovno which fits but,
unless there is another search form, it appears that the ability to search
based on that field is no longer presented. Is there another search
approach and if so how is it accessed?
TIA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brenner-Fleischman from Ponevezh-Shavli Lithuania #general

Sharon Fleischman <adjusterbob@...>
 

I am searching family names Brenner and Fleischman >from the areas around
Ligum and Pokroi Lithuania


Robert Fleischman
adjusterbob@worldnet.att.net
Miami Beach, Fl.