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The given name Leyb #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings?

Many thanks
Tom

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The given name Leyb #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings?

Many thanks
Tom

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Age of Photograph-Viewmate #general

Shel Bercovich <sbercovich@...>
 

Hello all,

Have a Photo up at <http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview54.html#VM147>.

from the dress of the people in the photo, does anyone have any ideas
as to what year the photo was taken? The picture was taken in
Minsk, Belarus.

As usual, please respond privately.

Many thanks for your help.

Shel

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVICI - Dorohoi, Iasi &
Stefanesti, Romania
KLEBANOV (various spellings), LIPKIND - Minsk Gubernia; NYC
ECHTER, ZWANG - Tulchin & Botha, Ukraine; Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Age of Photograph-Viewmate #general

Shel Bercovich <sbercovich@...>
 

Hello all,

Have a Photo up at <http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview54.html#VM147>.

from the dress of the people in the photo, does anyone have any ideas
as to what year the photo was taken? The picture was taken in
Minsk, Belarus.

As usual, please respond privately.

Many thanks for your help.

Shel

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVICI - Dorohoi, Iasi &
Stefanesti, Romania
KLEBANOV (various spellings), LIPKIND - Minsk Gubernia; NYC
ECHTER, ZWANG - Tulchin & Botha, Ukraine; Israel


seeing Taubie from Muncacz #general

Barbara S Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I am posting this for a friend.

"My name is Rachel Herczl (nee Rosenberg) and I am asking for help to
find a woman called Taubie >from Muncacz.

"I was born in 1929 and arrived at Birkenau in May 1944. I was in a
lager. A woman by the name of Aliska was in charge of my block.
I was among 20 girls chosen to go >from Birkenau to Auschwitz every day.
We worked in the fields and in the gardens of the S.S. officers. Taubi
and I were together.

"She had had a younger sister who was about my age. After they were
separated, she "adopted" me. She was about 2 years older than me and
was extremely good to me. We were both moved to Auschwitz and worked
in the sewing and mending section. We walked together in the "March of the
Dead" and stayed together till we were liberated in Ravensbruk and in
Neustadt-Gelbe in May of 1945.

"I would very much like to meet her again. Hear about her life since we
parted and thank her for her kindness.

"If anyone has any information which could help me or know where to turn
to get the right information, I would be extremely grateful

" Yours sincerely,
Rachel.

"Please send any information to either:
NaomiWulfsohn@hotmail.com
or
MiRonW.fam@usa.net "


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen seeing Taubie from Muncacz #general

Barbara S Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I am posting this for a friend.

"My name is Rachel Herczl (nee Rosenberg) and I am asking for help to
find a woman called Taubie >from Muncacz.

"I was born in 1929 and arrived at Birkenau in May 1944. I was in a
lager. A woman by the name of Aliska was in charge of my block.
I was among 20 girls chosen to go >from Birkenau to Auschwitz every day.
We worked in the fields and in the gardens of the S.S. officers. Taubi
and I were together.

"She had had a younger sister who was about my age. After they were
separated, she "adopted" me. She was about 2 years older than me and
was extremely good to me. We were both moved to Auschwitz and worked
in the sewing and mending section. We walked together in the "March of the
Dead" and stayed together till we were liberated in Ravensbruk and in
Neustadt-Gelbe in May of 1945.

"I would very much like to meet her again. Hear about her life since we
parted and thank her for her kindness.

"If anyone has any information which could help me or know where to turn
to get the right information, I would be extremely grateful

" Yours sincerely,
Rachel.

"Please send any information to either:
NaomiWulfsohn@hotmail.com
or
MiRonW.fam@usa.net "


Lviv Web site update #general

ESES@...
 

I have just updated the Lviv Web site. Street photos and additional Book
titles have been added.
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/lviv/lviv.html
This change went smoothly thanks to the help of Jim Stein of JewishGen.
Errol Schneegurt moderator Lviv Area Research Group


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lviv Web site update #general

ESES@...
 

I have just updated the Lviv Web site. Street photos and additional Book
titles have been added.
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/lviv/lviv.html
This change went smoothly thanks to the help of Jim Stein of JewishGen.
Errol Schneegurt moderator Lviv Area Research Group


Re: Old telephone books #general

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

This polemic is probably of no interest for most of the Jewishgenners and I
am sorry if I must give this precision again :
In the National Library as well as in the Administrative Library (Hotel de
Ville) they possess a collection of telephon books, white and yellow pages.
Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Genealogie juive, Paris, France
http://www.genealoj.fr

----- Original Message -----
From: Micheline GUTMANN <MichelineGUTMANN@compuserve.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:39 PM
Subject: Old telephone books

Jean Bousse asked me :
I would be interested to know more about the collection at the Hotel de
Ville de Paris, as mentioned by Micheline Gutmann. Are they as complete,
in paper or also on microfilm? I hope Micheline could enlighten me and
the List. Thanks.<

As for me, I answered only about old directories included 1930 and after.

If we are in Paris, the collection of the Hotel de ville is probably the
same one, much easier to look at, than the microfilms at the Bibliotheque
Nationale de France at Tolbiac.
As I don't go to the BN because it is difficult of access (even when it is
opened and when there are no strikes of all kinds), I don't know is
everything has been microfilmed.
A collection of those microfilms also exists at the Archives of Paris, 18,
Boulevard Serrurier, perhaps not complete.
It is important to precise again that this is not a collection of ordinary
telephone books but commercial ones called "Almanach du Commerce et de
l'Industrie"

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris
michelinegutmann@compuserve.com
http://asso.genami.free.fr
mailto:101772.1070@COMPUSERVE.COM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: re:Old telephone books #general

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

This polemic is probably of no interest for most of the Jewishgenners and I
am sorry if I must give this precision again :
In the National Library as well as in the Administrative Library (Hotel de
Ville) they possess a collection of telephon books, white and yellow pages.
Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Genealogie juive, Paris, France
http://www.genealoj.fr

----- Original Message -----
From: Micheline GUTMANN <MichelineGUTMANN@compuserve.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:39 PM
Subject: Old telephone books

Jean Bousse asked me :
I would be interested to know more about the collection at the Hotel de
Ville de Paris, as mentioned by Micheline Gutmann. Are they as complete,
in paper or also on microfilm? I hope Micheline could enlighten me and
the List. Thanks.<

As for me, I answered only about old directories included 1930 and after.

If we are in Paris, the collection of the Hotel de ville is probably the
same one, much easier to look at, than the microfilms at the Bibliotheque
Nationale de France at Tolbiac.
As I don't go to the BN because it is difficult of access (even when it is
opened and when there are no strikes of all kinds), I don't know is
everything has been microfilmed.
A collection of those microfilms also exists at the Archives of Paris, 18,
Boulevard Serrurier, perhaps not complete.
It is important to precise again that this is not a collection of ordinary
telephone books but commercial ones called "Almanach du Commerce et de
l'Industrie"

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris
michelinegutmann@compuserve.com
http://asso.genami.free.fr
mailto:101772.1070@COMPUSERVE.COM


Is NIMOY a "kohen" surname? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear JGenners,

I am wondering whether anybody out there belongs to a NIMOY family and if
so, whether that name is is or is not associated with kehunah (i.e. were
your NIMOY relatives kohanim?)

I'm asking because conflicting reports have reached me on this question
and I'd love to get a definitive answer.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is NIMOY a "kohen" surname? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear JGenners,

I am wondering whether anybody out there belongs to a NIMOY family and if
so, whether that name is is or is not associated with kehunah (i.e. were
your NIMOY relatives kohanim?)

I'm asking because conflicting reports have reached me on this question
and I'd love to get a definitive answer.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Finland emigration? #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

carolyn r. siegel wrote:
Thankyou to the person who listed the Finland web site and ship
listing. Ifound a name just like my grandfather's (Leib Rottenberg) on
the list.
But, since I had "heard" he came >from Odessa, Russia, I am curious if this
could even be him and if so, why would he have left via Finland in perhaps
1905? Was there a route of immigration north >from Odessa up to finland?
Did Finland assist Russian men escaping the army?
...snip...
So.....what's the story---why would a russian jew leave through Finland?
you may email privately, but I think this is good info to share.
I am working on a paper on emigation >from Eastern Europe to or via
Denmark (also the routes of emigration!).

I have found the most curious routes! One came to Denmark >from Odessa
via Hango (i.e. Finland). But >from what I have gathered of information
in my databases at present, it appears that at times most of the
emigrants came by way of ship >from Stettin, at other times most of
them sailed >from Libau, and at intervals a lot came via Hango (Finland).

I have not found any plausible solution, as there doesn't seem to be
any specific patterns (yet! might later!). So my guess is that just as
today, they hear advice/rumors about one route being better or cheaper
or faster or .... so they choose that one instead of another one closer
to their point of departure.

The competition was very hard at times between the companies, and at
times rumors had it that one shipping line was not reliable or another
one more comfortable... So you find Danes >from Copenhagen who emigrated
via Hamburg!? Although the ships >from the United Danish Steamship Line
was right at their doorstep (so to speak!).

But that is just one possible explanation...

When I finish my paper, I hope to be able to say something more about
it.

One more thing: Those who emigrated via Scandinavia very often stayed
for a shorter of longer period of time in one of the Scandinavian
countries in order to save money enough for the rest of the journey.
AND the mobility between the Scandinavian countries were very
significant: You find families where one child was born in Stockholm,
another in Copenhagen, yet another in Norway, then one in Gothenburg,
and then you might find the family settling down for good in Denmark
--- or emigrating.

Hope this helps a bit.
If you get any replies privately on this topic, I would be very
grateful, if you would share them with me, as it might be one bit to
the puzzle I'm working on.

Besides, you can check out the Denmark SIG website >from time to time,
I try to get information about - including about emigration >from -
all the Scandinavian countries.

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & Webmaster of
JewishGen Denmark SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/denmark
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finland emigration? #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

carolyn r. siegel wrote:
Thankyou to the person who listed the Finland web site and ship
listing. Ifound a name just like my grandfather's (Leib Rottenberg) on
the list.
But, since I had "heard" he came >from Odessa, Russia, I am curious if this
could even be him and if so, why would he have left via Finland in perhaps
1905? Was there a route of immigration north >from Odessa up to finland?
Did Finland assist Russian men escaping the army?
...snip...
So.....what's the story---why would a russian jew leave through Finland?
you may email privately, but I think this is good info to share.
I am working on a paper on emigation >from Eastern Europe to or via
Denmark (also the routes of emigration!).

I have found the most curious routes! One came to Denmark >from Odessa
via Hango (i.e. Finland). But >from what I have gathered of information
in my databases at present, it appears that at times most of the
emigrants came by way of ship >from Stettin, at other times most of
them sailed >from Libau, and at intervals a lot came via Hango (Finland).

I have not found any plausible solution, as there doesn't seem to be
any specific patterns (yet! might later!). So my guess is that just as
today, they hear advice/rumors about one route being better or cheaper
or faster or .... so they choose that one instead of another one closer
to their point of departure.

The competition was very hard at times between the companies, and at
times rumors had it that one shipping line was not reliable or another
one more comfortable... So you find Danes >from Copenhagen who emigrated
via Hamburg!? Although the ships >from the United Danish Steamship Line
was right at their doorstep (so to speak!).

But that is just one possible explanation...

When I finish my paper, I hope to be able to say something more about
it.

One more thing: Those who emigrated via Scandinavia very often stayed
for a shorter of longer period of time in one of the Scandinavian
countries in order to save money enough for the rest of the journey.
AND the mobility between the Scandinavian countries were very
significant: You find families where one child was born in Stockholm,
another in Copenhagen, yet another in Norway, then one in Gothenburg,
and then you might find the family settling down for good in Denmark
--- or emigrating.

Hope this helps a bit.
If you get any replies privately on this topic, I would be very
grateful, if you would share them with me, as it might be one bit to
the puzzle I'm working on.

Besides, you can check out the Denmark SIG website >from time to time,
I try to get information about - including about emigration >from -
all the Scandinavian countries.

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & Webmaster of
JewishGen Denmark SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/denmark
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk


GRUPEL in LIBAU #southafrica

shaul <shaul@...>
 

from LITVAKSIG:
Subject: Family name GRUPEL in LIBAU
From: "abelfam" <abelfam@optushome.com.au>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:13:48 +1100

I am looking for info on the family name GRUPEL who came >from Libau.

My grandfather was ELIYAHY GRUPEL and he arried TAUBE ROSTOVSKY from
Kretinga.

Two brothers married 2 sisters migrated to Sunderland,UK then on to
Israel and South Africa.

If anyone has any info it would be good to hear >from you.

Lesley Abelsohn
Sydney Australia
abelfam@optushome.com.au



Dr Saul Issroff
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001
info.london2001@talk21.com


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica GRUPEL in LIBAU #southafrica

shaul <shaul@...>
 

from LITVAKSIG:
Subject: Family name GRUPEL in LIBAU
From: "abelfam" <abelfam@optushome.com.au>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:13:48 +1100

I am looking for info on the family name GRUPEL who came >from Libau.

My grandfather was ELIYAHY GRUPEL and he arried TAUBE ROSTOVSKY from
Kretinga.

Two brothers married 2 sisters migrated to Sunderland,UK then on to
Israel and South Africa.

If anyone has any info it would be good to hear >from you.

Lesley Abelsohn
Sydney Australia
abelfam@optushome.com.au



Dr Saul Issroff
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001
info.london2001@talk21.com


Speaking of Eishyshok ... (and Bialystok) #general

ifidont@...
 

For * 4 * days only, go to the Auction House at
http://www.jewishgen.org/auction/ where the following books are
available:

There Once Was a World: A 900-Year Chronicle of the Shtetl of Eishyshok,
by Yaffa Eliach. This would make a great companion volume to the video
available at the JewishGen Mall, or fascinating reading all on its own.

And,

Jewels and Ashes, by Arnold Zable. Zable returns to the world of his
parents, that of Bialystok and Orla during the 1920s and 1930s, and tells
of its past and present.

The auctions end this Sunday!

Barbara Niederhoff
Centennial CO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Speaking of Eishyshok ... (and Bialystok) #general

ifidont@...
 

For * 4 * days only, go to the Auction House at
http://www.jewishgen.org/auction/ where the following books are
available:

There Once Was a World: A 900-Year Chronicle of the Shtetl of Eishyshok,
by Yaffa Eliach. This would make a great companion volume to the video
available at the JewishGen Mall, or fascinating reading all on its own.

And,

Jewels and Ashes, by Arnold Zable. Zable returns to the world of his
parents, that of Bialystok and Orla during the 1920s and 1930s, and tells
of its past and present.

The auctions end this Sunday!

Barbara Niederhoff
Centennial CO


Re: My Grandfather Israel Wulfow #ciechanow #poland

Jonathan Goldmacher <JGoldmacher@...>
 

Gary,

You're right on all accounts.

In Polish, OWICZ means "son of" while OWNA means "daughter of."

That's why some last names are referred to as patronymic. Abramowitz, =
Leibowitz, etc. =20

Jonathan

http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/=20
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Majer is the son of Mosek.

Mosek is the son of Mortko.
Thank you,Jonathan. With regard to this, then:

BARTNIK Mosek 8, Guta Aronowicz, Estera Joskow, 36 Ciechanow 1834 =
M
702466
ICKOW Estera Frayda 8, Icek Herszkowicz, Blima Jakubow, 22 Ciechanow 1834 =
M
702466


Mosek is the son of Guta, and Guta is son of Aron?

Estera is the daughter of Icek, and Icek is son of Herszko?

What is the significance of the "owicz?"

Joskow is the maiden name for Estera?

Jakubow is the maiden name for Blima?

Thanks in advance,

Gary Goldstein


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#Ciechanow #Poland RE: My Grandfather Israel Wulfow #ciechanow #poland

Jonathan Goldmacher <JGoldmacher@...>
 

Gary,

You're right on all accounts.

In Polish, OWICZ means "son of" while OWNA means "daughter of."

That's why some last names are referred to as patronymic. Abramowitz, =
Leibowitz, etc. =20

Jonathan

http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/=20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Majer is the son of Mosek.

Mosek is the son of Mortko.
Thank you,Jonathan. With regard to this, then:

BARTNIK Mosek 8, Guta Aronowicz, Estera Joskow, 36 Ciechanow 1834 =
M
702466
ICKOW Estera Frayda 8, Icek Herszkowicz, Blima Jakubow, 22 Ciechanow 1834 =
M
702466


Mosek is the son of Guta, and Guta is son of Aron?

Estera is the daughter of Icek, and Icek is son of Herszko?

What is the significance of the "owicz?"

Joskow is the maiden name for Estera?

Jakubow is the maiden name for Blima?

Thanks in advance,

Gary Goldstein


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