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Re: Surname origins - RAK
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Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Steve,
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Rak means 'crab' in both Polish and Russian, and in a couple of other Slavic languages. It spells in Polish "RAK" and in Russian "PAK" How could be Jewish family name called "Rak". There are several possibilities: - a short version of an originating shtetl (s) known as Rakowo, Rakowa, Rako'w, and so on, which are in abundance in Vilna and Bialystok areas. - named after the landlord: e.g.. Rakowiecki, Rakowski, etc - nickname, based on the occupation (e.g. fisherman) or an appearance (e.g..large moustache) - and so on I'd not make any connection to the Shuls zodiak signs or even the Yonah and the whale story - those are rather too far reaching speculations -- Alexander Sharon Calgary, Alberta <Steinsteve@...> wrote in message news:a2.10cf3199.27d05bfa@......
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surname origins - RAK
#general
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Steve,
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Rak means 'crab' in both Polish and Russian, and in a couple of other Slavic languages. It spells in Polish "RAK" and in Russian "PAK" How could be Jewish family name called "Rak". There are several possibilities: - a short version of an originating shtetl (s) known as Rakowo, Rakowa, Rako'w, and so on, which are in abundance in Vilna and Bialystok areas. - named after the landlord: e.g.. Rakowiecki, Rakowski, etc - nickname, based on the occupation (e.g. fisherman) or an appearance (e.g..large moustache) - and so on I'd not make any connection to the Shuls zodiak signs or even the Yonah and the whale story - those are rather too far reaching speculations -- Alexander Sharon Calgary, Alberta <Steinsteve@...> wrote in message news:a2.10cf3199.27d05bfa@......
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Is there a NY Roster of WWI Servicemen?
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Marcia Katzel DeVries <marciadv@...>
The state of Ohio published "The Official Roster of Ohio Soldiers,Sailors
and Marines in the World War 1917-18". My father's and uncle's names are in it. It tells where and when they enlisted, where they served and dates, what rank they were, and when they were discharged. Does anyone know if New York state has ever published a similar roster of New York servicemen and women >from WWI? Marcia Katzel DeVries Concord, California marciadv@... Researching: KATZEL: Vilkomir,Lithuania>Cleveland,Ohio BRAUER: Lithuania?;Novogrodek,Belarus?>England BOOKATZ: Birzai,Lithuania?;Riga,Latvia?>England>Philadelphia>Cleveland,Ohio GOLDSTEIN: Bogoslaviskis,Vilkomir,Lithuania>Cleveland,Ohio BURSTEIN: Bogoslaviskis,Vilkomir,Lithuania>Cleveland,Ohio
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is there a NY Roster of WWI Servicemen?
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Marcia Katzel DeVries <marciadv@...>
The state of Ohio published "The Official Roster of Ohio Soldiers,Sailors
and Marines in the World War 1917-18". My father's and uncle's names are in it. It tells where and when they enlisted, where they served and dates, what rank they were, and when they were discharged. Does anyone know if New York state has ever published a similar roster of New York servicemen and women >from WWI? Marcia Katzel DeVries Concord, California marciadv@... Researching: KATZEL: Vilkomir,Lithuania>Cleveland,Ohio BRAUER: Lithuania?;Novogrodek,Belarus?>England BOOKATZ: Birzai,Lithuania?;Riga,Latvia?>England>Philadelphia>Cleveland,Ohio GOLDSTEIN: Bogoslaviskis,Vilkomir,Lithuania>Cleveland,Ohio BURSTEIN: Bogoslaviskis,Vilkomir,Lithuania>Cleveland,Ohio
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London Conference - Hyamson Papers
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Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
Further to my previous e-mail, I have just been informed that the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Great Britain also has the Hyamson microfiche. Judy Wolkovitch
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Recommending a Researcher in Ukraine
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Beryl Blickstein <beryl@...>
Like most of you, I was up against the usual genealogical "wall" in
tracing my family history, so I looked for a reliable researcher in the Ukraine. I have had excellent results >from a Ukraine researcher from Odessa in locating members of my BLICKSTEIN and GITLER families - from Kamenets Podolsk - through the Ukrainian archives. The process has taken about six months. This researcher was able to take my family trees back about 150 years - to about 1750 - and provided me with copies of 88 documents >from the Ukrainian archives, plus their translations. I gained accurate, verifiable information about 4 generations in two families, including names and dates of birth of about 200 people. The information has helped me resolve the relationship questions between several branches of the family. I strongly recommend this researcher to anyone looking for help in Ukraine. Many of you are curious about the costs. The researcher himself charged $75 for the initial contact with the archives, which established the existence of a large number of documents. The researcher then charged me an additional $160 for translating the 88 documents. The Ukraine archives charged $360 for making true copies (certified, stamped, signed, and fully attributed) of each of the 88 documents. Considering the very large amount of material, I think the whole thing was a bargain! Since I understand that it is against JewishGen policy to directly publish recommendations for genealogical researchers in this list, I will be delighted provide this researcher's name and e-mail address in response to your private e-mail or telephone call. Beryl Blickstein Silver Spring MD beryl@...
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Genealogists needed to save a life!
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GOL Registry Operations <registry@...>
Please do not discard this message - A Jewish life depends upon it!
Please help! You have the power to save a life through your genealogical research abilities! Justin SIMON is dying of leukemia. He needs a bone marrow transplant. **You are his only hope**. He cannot find a matched donor and time is running out. Below please find his information. Write to info@... if you wish to be tested for Justin. Visit: www.hlamatch.org/justin Tissue type is inherited, like eye or hair color. Justin's best chance of finding a genetic match lies with those of Jewish ethnic ancestry (both Ashkenazi and Sephardic). People who share Justin's ethno-geographic ancestry are specifically encouraged to be tested! Justin's parents are Harold and Thelma SIMON. Separdic donors are underrepresented in the donor pool and are urged to be tested. One person can make a difference! Paternal Ancestry Grandfather: The "SHIMEL" or "SIMEL" family came >from a town called Liskiava or Lachkoveo in Lithuania, about 60 miles southwest of Vilnius (Vilna). The name SIMON was taken in 1902. Other family names on the paternal side include ALTABE (changed to ABRAHAM), HASSON, CAMPEAS, PENSO and MELNICK. Grandmother: The LEVY family was >from Constantinople, Turkey. Some family moved to France and married into the following families: ORANGER, HASSON, LINNEWIEL, FAVEUR, DUMONT, BOUGEARD and CAMPEAS. Maternal Ancestry Family names include GOODMAN and BROOKS >from Russia / Poland. Jay Feinberg Managing Director Gift of Life Bone Marrow Foundation Bone Marrow & Blood Stem Cell Donor Program Tel: 561.274.8200 Fax: 561.274.8206 www.hlamatch.org / registry@... Member: World Marrow Donor Association Participating Registry: Bone Marrow Donors Worldwide
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen London Conference - Hyamson Papers
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Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
Further to my previous e-mail, I have just been informed that the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Great Britain also has the Hyamson microfiche. Judy Wolkovitch
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Recommending a Researcher in Ukraine
#general
Beryl Blickstein <beryl@...>
Like most of you, I was up against the usual genealogical "wall" in
tracing my family history, so I looked for a reliable researcher in the Ukraine. I have had excellent results >from a Ukraine researcher from Odessa in locating members of my BLICKSTEIN and GITLER families - from Kamenets Podolsk - through the Ukrainian archives. The process has taken about six months. This researcher was able to take my family trees back about 150 years - to about 1750 - and provided me with copies of 88 documents >from the Ukrainian archives, plus their translations. I gained accurate, verifiable information about 4 generations in two families, including names and dates of birth of about 200 people. The information has helped me resolve the relationship questions between several branches of the family. I strongly recommend this researcher to anyone looking for help in Ukraine. Many of you are curious about the costs. The researcher himself charged $75 for the initial contact with the archives, which established the existence of a large number of documents. The researcher then charged me an additional $160 for translating the 88 documents. The Ukraine archives charged $360 for making true copies (certified, stamped, signed, and fully attributed) of each of the 88 documents. Considering the very large amount of material, I think the whole thing was a bargain! Since I understand that it is against JewishGen policy to directly publish recommendations for genealogical researchers in this list, I will be delighted provide this researcher's name and e-mail address in response to your private e-mail or telephone call. Beryl Blickstein Silver Spring MD beryl@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogists needed to save a life!
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GOL Registry Operations <registry@...>
Please do not discard this message - A Jewish life depends upon it!
Please help! You have the power to save a life through your genealogical research abilities! Justin SIMON is dying of leukemia. He needs a bone marrow transplant. **You are his only hope**. He cannot find a matched donor and time is running out. Below please find his information. Write to info@... if you wish to be tested for Justin. Visit: www.hlamatch.org/justin Tissue type is inherited, like eye or hair color. Justin's best chance of finding a genetic match lies with those of Jewish ethnic ancestry (both Ashkenazi and Sephardic). People who share Justin's ethno-geographic ancestry are specifically encouraged to be tested! Justin's parents are Harold and Thelma SIMON. Separdic donors are underrepresented in the donor pool and are urged to be tested. One person can make a difference! Paternal Ancestry Grandfather: The "SHIMEL" or "SIMEL" family came >from a town called Liskiava or Lachkoveo in Lithuania, about 60 miles southwest of Vilnius (Vilna). The name SIMON was taken in 1902. Other family names on the paternal side include ALTABE (changed to ABRAHAM), HASSON, CAMPEAS, PENSO and MELNICK. Grandmother: The LEVY family was >from Constantinople, Turkey. Some family moved to France and married into the following families: ORANGER, HASSON, LINNEWIEL, FAVEUR, DUMONT, BOUGEARD and CAMPEAS. Maternal Ancestry Family names include GOODMAN and BROOKS >from Russia / Poland. Jay Feinberg Managing Director Gift of Life Bone Marrow Foundation Bone Marrow & Blood Stem Cell Donor Program Tel: 561.274.8200 Fax: 561.274.8206 www.hlamatch.org / registry@... Member: World Marrow Donor Association Participating Registry: Bone Marrow Donors Worldwide
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Brody
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Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
My late father-in-law, Yosef Seh-Lavan, told me that there was an office in
Brody for people who wanted to go to Eretz Yisrael. He crossed the border, somehow, >from Ukraine to Poland, went to Brody, and reached Eretz Yisrael in 1923. He met his wife, Batya Starobinski, of Warsaw (born in Polonka) either at the office in Brody or on board the ship. Ida Selavan Schwarcz Arad, Israel Original Message From: RONC1VSNY@... Subject: [ukraine] Brody The town of Brody has been written of, regarding escape routes >from the Pale of Settlement. In fact one article I read almost advertised the town, " Two weeks >from Brody to Ellis Island". Brody, at the time, was in Austria and just across the border >from the Pale. Now of course, Brody is in the Western Ukraine. I have also read in the Kamenets-Podolsk Yiskor book of places similar to the South. I think that is the route most people took. It might be that at times the borders were more secure than at other times. Ron Cutler
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Re: Brody
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Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
My late father-in-law, Yosef Seh-Lavan, told me that there was an office in
Brody for people who wanted to go to Eretz Yisrael. He crossed the border, somehow, >from Ukraine to Poland, went to Brody, and reached Eretz Yisrael in 1923. He met his wife, Batya Starobinski, of Warsaw (born in Polonka) either at the office in Brody or on board the ship. Ida Selavan Schwarcz Arad, Israel Original Message From: RONC1VSNY@... Subject: [ukraine] Brody The town of Brody has been written of, regarding escape routes >from the Pale of Settlement. In fact one article I read almost advertised the town, " Two weeks >from Brody to Ellis Island". Brody, at the time, was in Austria and just across the border >from the Pale. Now of course, Brody is in the Western Ukraine. I have also read in the Kamenets-Podolsk Yiskor book of places similar to the South. I think that is the route most people took. It might be that at times the borders were more secure than at other times. Ron Cutler
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Yad Vashem Valley of the Communities - Sudilkov and Shepetovka, Ukraine
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Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
A new page has been added to the Sudilkov website
which shows pictures of the memorials to Sudilkov and Shepetovka, Ukraine [part of the Valley of the Communities monument at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem]. http://members.bellatlantic.net/~pauldana/valley.htm Paul W. Ginsburg Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft http://www.sudilkov.com Bethesda, MD
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Yad Vashem Valley of the Communities - Sudilkov and Shepetovka, Ukraine
#ukraine
Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
A new page has been added to the Sudilkov website
which shows pictures of the memorials to Sudilkov and Shepetovka, Ukraine [part of the Valley of the Communities monument at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem]. http://members.bellatlantic.net/~pauldana/valley.htm Paul W. Ginsburg Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft http://www.sudilkov.com Bethesda, MD
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Grechevsky
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Nelson, David (DHS-CDIC) <DNelson3@...>
My great grandmother came over with my grandfather, Ben Grechevsky.
Her name was ZLATA GRECHEVSKY (GREMM). Any one know the derivation of Zlata? Russian, Polish, Slovakian? May be a clue as to the family's origin. Thanks for any help. David Nelson
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Grechevsky
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Nelson, David (DHS-CDIC) <DNelson3@...>
My great grandmother came over with my grandfather, Ben Grechevsky.
Her name was ZLATA GRECHEVSKY (GREMM). Any one know the derivation of Zlata? Russian, Polish, Slovakian? May be a clue as to the family's origin. Thanks for any help. David Nelson
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Emigration by Jewish soldiers ca 1904
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JGLois@...
The husband of a cousin told me that his grandfather was in the Russian
military and was being transported to the war by ship (for service in the Russo-Japanese War) via the "western" route. The ship stopped at New York and he dove off and swam in,sneaking ashore. Became Mr. Smith shortly thereafter. Family still Smith. Story seemed a bit farfetched to me, but I didn't do any research on that family as they are not "my" family and have seen no similar story elsewhere. Does this appear to be a possibility ? Lois Sernoff [Phila., PA] <JGLois@...> Researching: MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ, MARRITZ, MARRITS] >from Korsun in Kiev Gub. to Phila. SOSNOVSKY [SOSNOFSKY, SOSNOV - all spelling variations] >from Gorodishche in Cherkassy uyezd, Kiev Gub.-> Ekaterinoslav -> Philadelphia, PA or anywhere. YO(A)MPOLSKY: >from Korsun vicinity to Phila.
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Re: Emigration by Jewish soldiers ca 1904
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JGLois@...
The husband of a cousin told me that his grandfather was in the Russian
military and was being transported to the war by ship (for service in the Russo-Japanese War) via the "western" route. The ship stopped at New York and he dove off and swam in,sneaking ashore. Became Mr. Smith shortly thereafter. Family still Smith. Story seemed a bit farfetched to me, but I didn't do any research on that family as they are not "my" family and have seen no similar story elsewhere. Does this appear to be a possibility ? Lois Sernoff [Phila., PA] <JGLois@...> Researching: MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ, MARRITZ, MARRITS] >from Korsun in Kiev Gub. to Phila. SOSNOVSKY [SOSNOFSKY, SOSNOV - all spelling variations] >from Gorodishche in Cherkassy uyezd, Kiev Gub.-> Ekaterinoslav -> Philadelphia, PA or anywhere. YO(A)MPOLSKY: >from Korsun vicinity to Phila.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Babi Yar
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <Shmuel@...>
In <message-id clipped>,
on 02/25/2001 Mark Saul <MSaul@...> said: Question to moderator: Why can't participants on this list converse I'm not sure I'm confortable with the degree of censorship you seemThat seems a bit ungracious. They are providing access to the list pro bono. I for one am grateful to them for doing so, and would not consider insulting them by referring to their moderation as "censorship". Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Researching: Gelman, Channah Khazangorodk Belarus Katz, Shmuel Gologury(Lemberg) Tarnopol Ukraine Lifshitz, Bluma Gologury(Lemberg) Tarnopol Ukraine Metsch, Shlomo Chernevist, Galicia, Austria Metsch, Yechiel Chernevist, Galicia, Austria Shulman, Zalman Dov Khazangoroduk Belarus (Berel)
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Re: Babi Yar
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <Shmuel@...>
In <message-id clipped>,
on 02/25/2001 Mark Saul <MSaul@...> said: Question to moderator: Why can't participants on this list converse I'm not sure I'm confortable with the degree of censorship you seemThat seems a bit ungracious. They are providing access to the list pro bono. I for one am grateful to them for doing so, and would not consider insulting them by referring to their moderation as "censorship". Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Researching: Gelman, Channah Khazangorodk Belarus Katz, Shmuel Gologury(Lemberg) Tarnopol Ukraine Lifshitz, Bluma Gologury(Lemberg) Tarnopol Ukraine Metsch, Shlomo Chernevist, Galicia, Austria Metsch, Yechiel Chernevist, Galicia, Austria Shulman, Zalman Dov Khazangoroduk Belarus (Berel)
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