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Re: Lefraque City #general

Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

Lefrak City was, and still is, a series of high-rise apartment buildings
bordered by 57th Ave. and Horace Harding Expressway, in Corona, NY (which
is part of the borough of Queens). The main number for the management
appears to be 718-271-7600 or 718-271-5000.

Lisa Dashman
Croton-on-Hudson, NY

this is a question for New York City old timers. Does anyone remember or
know anything about a housing project in the Queens area, somewhere along
57th Avenue, named Lefraque (spelling?) City?
I'm trying to trace someone who possibly lived there in the 1970-1980.


Success and Thanks - LEWKOWICZ & KLENOWSKI #general

Laurence Harris <laurence_harris@...>
 

A success story....

In my family, I was aware of a marriage of Morris LEFKOWITZ and
Yetta KLENOWSKI (the sister of my g.grandfather), in 1908, with
some Lodz connections.

I was browsing the JewishGen daily postings and noticed that a
Genner had posted a message about various LEWKOWICZ birth
certificates (>from Lodz) around the right sort of era. She had
identified (I believe via JRI Poland) a batch of certificates and
had them translated. Some did not belong to her family.

I followed up, on the off-chance of a match, and struck lucky.
My Morris LEFKOWITZ was born Mozek LEWKOWICZ, and the names of
the his three siblings also matched to three other certificates.

One added bonus is that the details on these certificates have
enabled me to identify the location of the certificate of
marriage of Mozek's parents (via the JRI-Poland on-line search
engine).

A most sincere thanks to all those wonderful people who keep
JewishGen & JRI Poland operational; and also to the kind Genner
who helped my cousin and I find out more about our family.

To mark our appreciation, a donation has been sent to JewishGen.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England
Researching Polish families: PINKUS, TRILLING, LEWKOWICZ,
SALT/ZALT, KLENOWSKY/KLONOWSKY(or similar)
Towns: Zloczew, Boleslawiec, Lodz, Ostrovah, Kalitz


When did Mogilev Guberniya become Vilna Guberniya? #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

It never did. Mogilev Guberniya was established by the Russians shortly
after it annexed Mscislaw Woyewodstwa, with other eastern territories of
Poland-Lithuania, in 1772. The Russians shifted that province's
administrative center >from Mscislaw (Mstislavl' in Russian) to Mohilew
(Mogilev in Russian).

The history of Russian Vilna Guberniya started later, with the final
partion of Poland-Lithuania in 1795. Previously there was a
Polish-Lithuanian province of Wilno Woyewodstwa. That, together with
Troki Woyewodstwa on its western flank and perhaps other territories as
well, was initially Russia's Lithuanian Province. (I don't have a map
from that brief time period.) Within a few years of Russian rule the
name was changed to Vilna Guberniya.

In 1843 the Russians shifted western districts of Minsk Guberniya to
Vilna Guberniya and carved out Kovna Guberniya >from a western chunk of
Vilna Guberniya. As far as I know, the names and borders of the provinces
in Russian Lithuania and White Russia remained stable thereafter, though
some district boundaries changed, to the end of Imperial Russia in 1918.


Re: Baal Shem Tov Genealogy #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Contact any of the sons of the (late?) Bostoner Rebbe, R' Levi Horowitz.
He claims descent >from the BESHT, and his family can provide you with
their tree.

Shalom,
I'm searching for the genealogy of the Baal Shem Tov.


Re: Lefraque City #general

Chuck Haas <haascn@...>
 

this is a question for New York City old timers. Does anyone remember or
know anything about a housing project in the Queens area, somewhere along
57th Avenue, named Lefraque (spelling?) City?
I'm trying to trace someone who possibly lived there in the 1970-1980.
Lefrak City was (is) a private development. I do not remember the
exact streets, but 57th avenue sounds reasonable. It went on for
blocks and blocks.

Charles N. Haas
haas@...
Searching: Romania - HERZKOVITZ, AVRAM, SIMONOVITCH
France - HAAS, ROSENFELD, ARON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Success and Thanks - LEWKOWICZ & KLENOWSKI #general

Laurence Harris <laurence_harris@...>
 

A success story....

In my family, I was aware of a marriage of Morris LEFKOWITZ and
Yetta KLENOWSKI (the sister of my g.grandfather), in 1908, with
some Lodz connections.

I was browsing the JewishGen daily postings and noticed that a
Genner had posted a message about various LEWKOWICZ birth
certificates (>from Lodz) around the right sort of era. She had
identified (I believe via JRI Poland) a batch of certificates and
had them translated. Some did not belong to her family.

I followed up, on the off-chance of a match, and struck lucky.
My Morris LEFKOWITZ was born Mozek LEWKOWICZ, and the names of
the his three siblings also matched to three other certificates.

One added bonus is that the details on these certificates have
enabled me to identify the location of the certificate of
marriage of Mozek's parents (via the JRI-Poland on-line search
engine).

A most sincere thanks to all those wonderful people who keep
JewishGen & JRI Poland operational; and also to the kind Genner
who helped my cousin and I find out more about our family.

To mark our appreciation, a donation has been sent to JewishGen.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England
Researching Polish families: PINKUS, TRILLING, LEWKOWICZ,
SALT/ZALT, KLENOWSKY/KLONOWSKY(or similar)
Towns: Zloczew, Boleslawiec, Lodz, Ostrovah, Kalitz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Baal Shem Tov Genealogy #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Contact any of the sons of the (late?) Bostoner Rebbe, R' Levi Horowitz.
He claims descent >from the BESHT, and his family can provide you with
their tree.

Shalom,
I'm searching for the genealogy of the Baal Shem Tov.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lefraque City #general

Chuck Haas <haascn@...>
 

this is a question for New York City old timers. Does anyone remember or
know anything about a housing project in the Queens area, somewhere along
57th Avenue, named Lefraque (spelling?) City?
I'm trying to trace someone who possibly lived there in the 1970-1980.
Lefrak City was (is) a private development. I do not remember the
exact streets, but 57th avenue sounds reasonable. It went on for
blocks and blocks.

Charles N. Haas
haas@...
Searching: Romania - HERZKOVITZ, AVRAM, SIMONOVITCH
France - HAAS, ROSENFELD, ARON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen When did Mogilev Guberniya become Vilna Guberniya? #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

It never did. Mogilev Guberniya was established by the Russians shortly
after it annexed Mscislaw Woyewodstwa, with other eastern territories of
Poland-Lithuania, in 1772. The Russians shifted that province's
administrative center >from Mscislaw (Mstislavl' in Russian) to Mohilew
(Mogilev in Russian).

The history of Russian Vilna Guberniya started later, with the final
partion of Poland-Lithuania in 1795. Previously there was a
Polish-Lithuanian province of Wilno Woyewodstwa. That, together with
Troki Woyewodstwa on its western flank and perhaps other territories as
well, was initially Russia's Lithuanian Province. (I don't have a map
from that brief time period.) Within a few years of Russian rule the
name was changed to Vilna Guberniya.

In 1843 the Russians shifted western districts of Minsk Guberniya to
Vilna Guberniya and carved out Kovna Guberniya >from a western chunk of
Vilna Guberniya. As far as I know, the names and borders of the provinces
in Russian Lithuania and White Russia remained stable thereafter, though
some district boundaries changed, to the end of Imperial Russia in 1918.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lefraque City #general

Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

Lefrak City was, and still is, a series of high-rise apartment buildings
bordered by 57th Ave. and Horace Harding Expressway, in Corona, NY (which
is part of the borough of Queens). The main number for the management
appears to be 718-271-7600 or 718-271-5000.

Lisa Dashman
Croton-on-Hudson, NY

this is a question for New York City old timers. Does anyone remember or
know anything about a housing project in the Queens area, somewhere along
57th Avenue, named Lefraque (spelling?) City?
I'm trying to trace someone who possibly lived there in the 1970-1980.


World War I draft registration- September 12, 1918 form #general

Mark_J._Schwartz@...
 

I have a less than readable copy of the draft registration of a family
member. Under the category "Alien" there are two boxes whose titles I
can't read. They could be Declarant and Non-Declarant. Is this right?
Also, if the box is checked declarant was there any requirement that the
applicant actually have filed a Declaration of Intention to Naturalize
within a time period prior to checking this box? In other words, if the
Declarant box is checked, what type of clue does that give me about when
the registrant may have filed Declaration papers? Thanks

Mark Schwartz
Searching: SCHWARTZ, SHVARTSBLAT (Rafalovka, Volyn), PERMUT (Kobrin,
Volyn), FRUMAN (Zholkin, Volyn), LEFKOVICH, BORAK, GREENFIELD, CHELST
(Rozan, Poland), SOKOLOVITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen World War I draft registration- September 12, 1918 form #general

Mark_J._Schwartz@...
 

I have a less than readable copy of the draft registration of a family
member. Under the category "Alien" there are two boxes whose titles I
can't read. They could be Declarant and Non-Declarant. Is this right?
Also, if the box is checked declarant was there any requirement that the
applicant actually have filed a Declaration of Intention to Naturalize
within a time period prior to checking this box? In other words, if the
Declarant box is checked, what type of clue does that give me about when
the registrant may have filed Declaration papers? Thanks

Mark Schwartz
Searching: SCHWARTZ, SHVARTSBLAT (Rafalovka, Volyn), PERMUT (Kobrin,
Volyn), FRUMAN (Zholkin, Volyn), LEFKOVICH, BORAK, GREENFIELD, CHELST
(Rozan, Poland), SOKOLOVITZ


Re: News release #dna

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

There is NO such thing as racial purity: please don't let's
have a terrible discussion on this subject. The Nazis really
have won if Jews start peddling such myths.

I am sure it's done >from decent motives, but it's wrong.
"nuff said.

Miriam Margolyes
Santa Monica

born in the UK

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is ended!


DNA Research #DNA Re: News release #dna

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

There is NO such thing as racial purity: please don't let's
have a terrible discussion on this subject. The Nazis really
have won if Jews start peddling such myths.

I am sure it's done >from decent motives, but it's wrong.
"nuff said.

Miriam Margolyes
Santa Monica

born in the UK

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is ended!


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine (no subject) #ukraine

Dale & Gregg Knutsen <lkmoon@...>
 

Hi,
My great grandparents and their children immigrated >from Bogopola',
Ukraine in the 1890's. I have traced them to an address in Queens
around 1920. In trying to locate their census records I needed to find
out where their street was located. Unfortunetly Polaski St. in Queens
does not seem to exist any longer. Does anyone know where Polaski
Street was located?
Thanks,
Dale Knutsen
lkmoon@...

searching:
Sheiman, Kremenetsky - Bogopola' Ukraine
Lazarus, Segal, Sally- Lithuania
Frish-Warsaw, Poland
Ziontz-Lublin,Poland
Barach, Tanenbaum, Galacia


(No subject) #ukraine

Dale & Gregg Knutsen <lkmoon@...>
 

Hi,
My great grandparents and their children immigrated >from Bogopola',
Ukraine in the 1890's. I have traced them to an address in Queens
around 1920. In trying to locate their census records I needed to find
out where their street was located. Unfortunetly Polaski St. in Queens
does not seem to exist any longer. Does anyone know where Polaski
Street was located?
Thanks,
Dale Knutsen
lkmoon@...

searching:
Sheiman, Kremenetsky - Bogopola' Ukraine
Lazarus, Segal, Sally- Lithuania
Frish-Warsaw, Poland
Ziontz-Lublin,Poland
Barach, Tanenbaum, Galacia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fwd: Grechevsky/Greek #ukraine

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

David,

It may seem bizarre, but I guess it's conceivable that
your ancestors spoke Greek. If you ever have the
chance to look at Russian or Soviet censuses, since
1897 they have always included one or more questions
regarding native language and/or nationality (ethnic
group, in the Russian/Soviet context).
The wording of language/nationality questions has
varied >from census to census (sometimes your
nationality for census purposes has been determined by
your answer to the native language question on the
census), but in general, if you tell the census taker
that you are Jewish but speak Greek, as far as I know,
they will take your word for it. This practice stands
in contrast to passport applications, where in most
circumstances you are obligated to assume the
nationality of your parents, or of either parent, if
your parents have different nationalities.
The Government tabulates native language along with
the rest of the census statistics; well over 100
languages are currently spoken in the Russian
Federation, and although most are indigenous, at least
in relative terms, the statistical tabulations always
show a few thousand people with native languages that
you might not expect (French, Korean, English, etc.)
Some of these individuals are probably foreign born
people who, for example, married Russian citizens and
immigrated.
I did have a half-Greek friend who studied in Russia
with me, though, who said her Greek mom had some
distant relatives near Odessa who were part of a Greek
colony that had been there for hundreds of years.
Odessa, being a major cargo port and center for
international shipping, attracted members of other
merchant nations, such as Greeks. So maybe your
Greek-speaking relative did have at least some Greek
ancestry. On the other hand, maybe your document was
just the result of a mistake or misunderstanding.
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

--- "Nelson, David (DHS-CDIC)" <DNelson3@...>
wrote:

Subject: [ukraine] Grechevsky/Greek
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:18:54 -0800
I have an interesting problem associated with my
last post. In the 1910
census of Muskogee County, Oklahoma, I find my
grandfather Ben GRECHEVSKY
and his brother Abraham. The curious part is under
the column "Place of
birth of Mother and Father", the entry says Russia
and then in parentheses
the word "Greek". In the column "Principal language
spoken it says "Greek".


What gives here? These men were in some trouble with
the police in Russia
but why did the census officials label their
official language Greek? Is
there a part of Russia in 1908 that was Greek
speaking? This makes no sense
to me.

David Nelson


Grechevsky/Greek #ukraine

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

David,

It may seem bizarre, but I guess it's conceivable that
your ancestors spoke Greek. If you ever have the
chance to look at Russian or Soviet censuses, since
1897 they have always included one or more questions
regarding native language and/or nationality (ethnic
group, in the Russian/Soviet context).
The wording of language/nationality questions has
varied >from census to census (sometimes your
nationality for census purposes has been determined by
your answer to the native language question on the
census), but in general, if you tell the census taker
that you are Jewish but speak Greek, as far as I know,
they will take your word for it. This practice stands
in contrast to passport applications, where in most
circumstances you are obligated to assume the
nationality of your parents, or of either parent, if
your parents have different nationalities.
The Government tabulates native language along with
the rest of the census statistics; well over 100
languages are currently spoken in the Russian
Federation, and although most are indigenous, at least
in relative terms, the statistical tabulations always
show a few thousand people with native languages that
you might not expect (French, Korean, English, etc.)
Some of these individuals are probably foreign born
people who, for example, married Russian citizens and
immigrated.
I did have a half-Greek friend who studied in Russia
with me, though, who said her Greek mom had some
distant relatives near Odessa who were part of a Greek
colony that had been there for hundreds of years.
Odessa, being a major cargo port and center for
international shipping, attracted members of other
merchant nations, such as Greeks. So maybe your
Greek-speaking relative did have at least some Greek
ancestry. On the other hand, maybe your document was
just the result of a mistake or misunderstanding.
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

--- "Nelson, David (DHS-CDIC)" <DNelson3@...>
wrote:

Subject: [ukraine] Grechevsky/Greek
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:18:54 -0800
I have an interesting problem associated with my
last post. In the 1910
census of Muskogee County, Oklahoma, I find my
grandfather Ben GRECHEVSKY
and his brother Abraham. The curious part is under
the column "Place of
birth of Mother and Father", the entry says Russia
and then in parentheses
the word "Greek". In the column "Principal language
spoken it says "Greek".


What gives here? These men were in some trouble with
the police in Russia
but why did the census officials label their
official language Greek? Is
there a part of Russia in 1908 that was Greek
speaking? This makes no sense
to me.

David Nelson


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Moderator made a booboo #ukraine

mjssds@...
 

Hi,
You attributed my dissertation to Roman Viner when in fact it was my response to his comment that the war started in 1944. The whole exchange of messages is just ample proof that history is not taught in our schools anymore with a view to enabling our young to analyze the actions of their elders in the light of history. More the shame and more the responsibilty of the jewish community to keep the memeory of the Holocaust alive
Regards,
Steve Sperman

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sorry about the erroneous citation. Another good reason for signing your your own messages, folks. <g>


Tel Aviv Look-up? #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,
I have just received an address for long-lost relatives! They were in Tel
Aviv in 1982-1983. Could someone check the Tel Aviv phone book and
confirm if the address is still good (or has changed), and a current phone
number?

The couple are Sander and Amalia Rosen. They lived on Hamelitz Street.

Needless to say, if someone actually *knows* Sander or Amalia, or their
children Sarah and Harel, feel free to tell them their cousin is looking
for them!

Thank you all!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA

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