The Hungarian National Archives has an online catalog of their microfilms.
(http://www.natarch.hu/mol_e.htm)

Select Parish Registers, select jewish, and then press search. You should
get what appears to be all registers. The Ujfeherto comes in two different
versions:

U'jfehe'rto' (Izr)
Fehe'rto', Ra'cu'jfeje'rto'
Birth register: 1852 - 1895
Marriage register: 1886 - 1895
Death register: 1886 - 1895
Mixed register: 1844 - 1895
Frames: 915 Film number: A 3528-3529


U'jfehe'rto'-anyako"nyvi keru"let (Izr)
Mixed register: 1852 - 1885
Frames: 127 Film number: A 3518

Would someone translate this?

I was sent records >from registers in Nyiregyha'za, for Gesztered that
included Bo:ko:ny, but I don't see this neither on LDS nor in this list.
Does anyone know what was or was not included in the microfilming? or is
the Gesztered records just misfiled somewhere?

<chaim>
--
Chaim Frenkel
chaimf@...


mod. I can't see the connection of the message and the message title. I
can only edit the message not the headings. We have had some discussion
about the importance of informative and accurate subject headings. Please
oblige our subscribers; and while at this, a related topic is the self-
editing of messages, when responding, please don't just repeat someone's
previous message in its entirety- only the salient parts, so that your
response is understandable and in context. Thank you.LS

The Hungarian National Archives has an online catalog of their microfilms.
(http://www.natarch.hu/mol_e.htm)

Select Parish Registers, select jewish, and then press search. You should
get what appears to be all registers. The Ujfeherto comes in two different
versions:

U'jfehe'rto' (Izr)
Fehe'rto', Ra'cu'jfeje'rto'
Birth register: 1852 - 1895
Marriage register: 1886 - 1895
Death register: 1886 - 1895
Mixed register: 1844 - 1895
Frames: 915 Film number: A 3528-3529


U'jfehe'rto'-anyako"nyvi keru"let (Izr)
Mixed register: 1852 - 1885
Frames: 127 Film number: A 3518

Would someone translate this?

I was sent records >from registers in Nyiregyha'za, for Gesztered that
included Bo:ko:ny, but I don't see this neither on LDS nor in this list.
Does anyone know what was or was not included in the microfilming? or is
the Gesztered records just misfiled somewhere?

<chaim>
--
Chaim Frenkel
chaimf@...


mod. I can't see the connection of the message and the message title. I
can only edit the message not the headings. We have had some discussion
about the importance of informative and accurate subject headings. Please
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previous message in its entirety- only the salient parts, so that your
response is understandable and in context. Thank you.LS

About a year ago Ed Zwieback posted an offer regarding
"a partial list of Jewish Apartments in Varazdin,
Croatia." I tried e-mailing him directly, but the
message bounced.

If the offer is still good, I have a request regarding
two of the names you listed. I have a hunch that they
may be my gf's stepmother and her son. It seems they
may have died at Jasenovac.

Denise


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About a year ago Ed Zwieback posted an offer regarding
"a partial list of Jewish Apartments in Varazdin,
Croatia." I tried e-mailing him directly, but the
message bounced.

If the offer is still good, I have a request regarding
two of the names you listed. I have a hunch that they
may be my gf's stepmother and her son. It seems they
may have died at Jasenovac.

Denise


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Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
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Dear genners,
I've searched and I've found a map of the city of Iasi on-line! The
address is www.ici.ro/romania/cities/images/is_harta.jpg. I've also
emailed the library at the university in Iasi to ask their assistance in
locating a city map circa 1870.
Carol Blumenthal-Cohen

Years ago when I visited Barbados, I was shown the grave of "the last of
the Paleologus family", someone who died in the 1600s. I don't remember
the first name.
Paul Silverstone

nbonomi wrote:

There are two lines of the Paleologus family.
Paleologus is a noble family that governed the Bizantine Empire from
1261 to 1453. This dinasty ruled the empire up to the conquest of
Constantinople by the "Turks". The last member of this family died
during this siege. After this defeat the Turkey went out >from the
Christian West and entered the sphere of influence of the Islam. In
1305 the marquis of John the Fair of Monferrato (an area of Piedmont)
died without heirs. His sister was wife of east emperor Andronicus the
2nd Paleologus.

Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@...

Dear genners,
I've searched and I've found a map of the city of Iasi on-line! The
address is www.ici.ro/romania/cities/images/is_harta.jpg. I've also
emailed the library at the university in Iasi to ask their assistance in
locating a city map circa 1870.
Carol Blumenthal-Cohen

Years ago when I visited Barbados, I was shown the grave of "the last of
the Paleologus family", someone who died in the 1600s. I don't remember
the first name.
Paul Silverstone

nbonomi wrote:

There are two lines of the Paleologus family.
Paleologus is a noble family that governed the Bizantine Empire from
1261 to 1453. This dinasty ruled the empire up to the conquest of
Constantinople by the "Turks". The last member of this family died
during this siege. After this defeat the Turkey went out >from the
Christian West and entered the sphere of influence of the Islam. In
1305 the marquis of John the Fair of Monferrato (an area of Piedmont)
died without heirs. His sister was wife of east emperor Andronicus the
2nd Paleologus.

Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@...

March Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, March 12, 2001
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
********
Speaker: Marian L. Smith
Topic: Immigration and Naturalization
********
Marian L. Smith, of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, will speak
on the subject of these records, with special focus on Philadelphia
immigration detention records dating >from the mid-1890's to 1909. After
the presentation, Ms. Smith will be available to answer questions about
records discussed in her presentation and other INS records.

Ms. Smith has been the Immigration and Naturalization Service historian
since 1988. She regularly lectures at the yearly IAJGS seminars and the
other national genealogical conferences, as well as at the National
Archives. Her articles appear in Avotaynu, Prologue, and FGS Forum.

******
Special Offer for New Members and other Beginners!

Come at 7:15, 30 minutes early, and hear more experienced members of
JGSP give advice and counsel on issues that interest and perplex you.
Come early and stay for the regular meeting following.
*****
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Russian Special Interest Group:
The meeting will be held in February 25, 2001 at the
Klein Branch JG/CC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.
The next meeting date will be held on April 22.
Contact David Brill for more information: dbrill@...

*****
Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@...>

March Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, March 12, 2001
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
********
Speaker: Marian L. Smith
Topic: Immigration and Naturalization
********
Marian L. Smith, of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, will speak
on the subject of these records, with special focus on Philadelphia
immigration detention records dating >from the mid-1890's to 1909. After
the presentation, Ms. Smith will be available to answer questions about
records discussed in her presentation and other INS records.

Ms. Smith has been the Immigration and Naturalization Service historian
since 1988. She regularly lectures at the yearly IAJGS seminars and the
other national genealogical conferences, as well as at the National
Archives. Her articles appear in Avotaynu, Prologue, and FGS Forum.

******
Special Offer for New Members and other Beginners!

Come at 7:15, 30 minutes early, and hear more experienced members of
JGSP give advice and counsel on issues that interest and perplex you.
Come early and stay for the regular meeting following.
*****
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Russian Special Interest Group:
The meeting will be held in February 25, 2001 at the
Klein Branch JG/CC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.
The next meeting date will be held on April 22.
Contact David Brill for more information: dbrill@...

*****
Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@...>

The book you've been hearing about, reading about, talking about
....originally published in Polish, soon to be released in English, is now
available on the JewishGenMALL at a discounted pre-publication price of
$18.95 plus shipping and handling.

Jan Gross' "Neighbors", is the chilling tale of one summer day in 1941
when half the Polish town of Jedwabne murdered the other half. 1,600
Jewish men, women and children murdered not by the Nazis as many believed,
(and as many would have the world continue to believe) but by their Polish
neighbors who destroyed all but seven of the town's Jews.

The author puts together a shocking and brutal story >from eyewitness
accounts remembered well by locals but forgotten by history. His
investigation reads like a detective story, putting truth to the often told
lie.

"Neighbors, the Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne" will be
available in April, but because of expected interest the JewishGenMALL is
accepting advance orders.

Please visit http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/ and find "Neighbors"
easily by clicking on the New Items button. If you click on the title you
can read more about the book, and if you are ready to place your order
click on the Add button to put it into your shopping cart.

If this is your first time purchasing something >from the Jewishgenmall, the
program will take you through setting up an account. Do not be fearful
about accepting a cookie on your browser, it merely is there so the next
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If you have any difficulties, or questions, please click the Contact Us
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You don't need to limit your purchase to the recommendation above....take
your time.....browse the bookstore and all the other sales sections. In
case you haven't yet purchased gifts for the kids, grandkids,
greatgrandkids anybody ?
be sure to look over the Passover specials.

All purchases help JewishGen's Operations budget and we thank you in
advance for shopping with us.

Carol

Carol Skydell, Jewishgen Operations

The book you've been hearing about, reading about, talking about
....originally published in Polish, soon to be released in English, is now
available on the JewishGenMALL at a discounted pre-publication price of
$18.95 plus shipping and handling.

Jan Gross' "Neighbors", is the chilling tale of one summer day in 1941
when half the Polish town of Jedwabne murdered the other half. 1,600
Jewish men, women and children murdered not by the Nazis as many believed,
(and as many would have the world continue to believe) but by their Polish
neighbors who destroyed all but seven of the town's Jews.

The author puts together a shocking and brutal story >from eyewitness
accounts remembered well by locals but forgotten by history. His
investigation reads like a detective story, putting truth to the often told
lie.

"Neighbors, the Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne" will be
available in April, but because of expected interest the JewishGenMALL is
accepting advance orders.

Please visit http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/ and find "Neighbors"
easily by clicking on the New Items button. If you click on the title you
can read more about the book, and if you are ready to place your order
click on the Add button to put it into your shopping cart.

If this is your first time purchasing something >from the Jewishgenmall, the
program will take you through setting up an account. Do not be fearful
about accepting a cookie on your browser, it merely is there so the next
time you visit you don't have to go through setting up your personal
account all over again.

If you have any difficulties, or questions, please click the Contact Us
button.

You don't need to limit your purchase to the recommendation above....take
your time.....browse the bookstore and all the other sales sections. In
case you haven't yet purchased gifts for the kids, grandkids,
greatgrandkids anybody ?
be sure to look over the Passover specials.

All purchases help JewishGen's Operations budget and we thank you in
advance for shopping with us.

Carol

Carol Skydell, Jewishgen Operations

The book you've been hearing about, reading about, talking about
....originally published in Polish, soon to be released in English, is now
available on the JewishGenMALL at a discounted pre-publication price of
$18.95 plus shipping and handling.

Jan Gross' "Neighbors", is the chilling tale of one summer day in 1941
when half the Polish town of Jedwabne murdered the other half. 1,600
Jewish men, women and children murdered not by the Nazis as many believed,
(and as many would have the world continue to believe) but by their Polish
neighbors who destroyed all but seven of the town's Jews.

The author puts together a shocking and brutal story >from eyewitness
accounts remembered well by locals but forgotten by history. His
investigation reads like a detective story, putting truth to the often told
lie.

"Neighbors, the Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne" will be
available in April, but because of expected interest the JewishGenMALL is
accepting advance orders.

Please visit http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/ and find "Neighbors"
easily by clicking on the New Items button. If you click on the title you
can read more about the book, and if you are ready to place your order
click on the Add button to put it into your shopping cart.

If this is your first time purchasing something >from the Jewishgenmall, the
program will take you through setting up an account. Do not be fearful
about accepting a cookie on your browser, it merely is there so the next
time you visit you don't have to go through setting up your personal
account all over again.

If you have any difficulties, or questions, please click the Contact Us
button.

You don't need to limit your purchase to the recommendation above....take
your time.....browse the bookstore and all the other sales sections. In
case you haven't yet purchased gifts for the kids, grandkids,
greatgrandkids anybody ? be sure to look over the Passover specials.

All purchases help JewishGen's Operations budget and we thank you in
advance for shopping with us.

Carol Skydell, Jewishgen Operations

The book you've been hearing about, reading about, talking about
....originally published in Polish, soon to be released in English, is now
available on the JewishGenMALL at a discounted pre-publication price of
$18.95 plus shipping and handling.

Jan Gross' "Neighbors", is the chilling tale of one summer day in 1941
when half the Polish town of Jedwabne murdered the other half. 1,600
Jewish men, women and children murdered not by the Nazis as many believed,
(and as many would have the world continue to believe) but by their Polish
neighbors who destroyed all but seven of the town's Jews.

The author puts together a shocking and brutal story >from eyewitness
accounts remembered well by locals but forgotten by history. His
investigation reads like a detective story, putting truth to the often told
lie.

"Neighbors, the Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne" will be
available in April, but because of expected interest the JewishGenMALL is
accepting advance orders.

Please visit http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/ and find "Neighbors"
easily by clicking on the New Items button. If you click on the title you
can read more about the book, and if you are ready to place your order
click on the Add button to put it into your shopping cart.

If this is your first time purchasing something >from the Jewishgenmall, the
program will take you through setting up an account. Do not be fearful
about accepting a cookie on your browser, it merely is there so the next
time you visit you don't have to go through setting up your personal
account all over again.

If you have any difficulties, or questions, please click the Contact Us
button.

You don't need to limit your purchase to the recommendation above....take
your time.....browse the bookstore and all the other sales sections. In
case you haven't yet purchased gifts for the kids, grandkids,
greatgrandkids anybody ? be sure to look over the Passover specials.

All purchases help JewishGen's Operations budget and we thank you in
advance for shopping with us.

Carol Skydell, Jewishgen Operations

Hi Doris

To perform the test you have explained your brother would need to take the
test, and the other woman would need her brother or her brothers son, if
the brother has a son. Find people related to each of you who have the
same surname as your maiden names and you will be testing the right set of
Y chromosomes.

Good luck

Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston

At 10:55 PM 03/07/2001 -0500, you wrote:

*** Limited Time Only - Specials Available ***
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello,
I have one more question, to be clarified:
Another woman and myself, want to find out if we are related through our
paternal lines.... we both have the same maiden name, and both families come

from the same small shtetl, near Kiev..... however, we can find no

connection....
I know that I must have my Brother take the DNA test, but must her Brother
participate too, or can her son take the test...... ????
It seems >from what I can understand, that BOTH our Brothers must take the
test....
correct ?


Thanks again,
Doris Becker Geffner Long
Island, N.Y.
ageffer@....

-----------
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there you can find many questions answered already:
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To post to the DNA discussion group, send your message to:
<dna@...>

DNA Website: http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

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Bennett Greenspan

"chance favors the educated mind"

Hi Doris

To perform the test you have explained your brother would need to take the
test, and the other woman would need her brother or her brothers son, if
the brother has a son. Find people related to each of you who have the
same surname as your maiden names and you will be testing the right set of
Y chromosomes.

Good luck

Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston

At 10:55 PM 03/07/2001 -0500, you wrote:

*** Limited Time Only - Specials Available ***
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello,
I have one more question, to be clarified:
Another woman and myself, want to find out if we are related through our
paternal lines.... we both have the same maiden name, and both families come

from the same small shtetl, near Kiev..... however, we can find no

connection....
I know that I must have my Brother take the DNA test, but must her Brother
participate too, or can her son take the test...... ????
It seems >from what I can understand, that BOTH our Brothers must take the
test....
correct ?


Thanks again,
Doris Becker Geffner Long
Island, N.Y.
ageffer@....

-----------
Please check the DNA FAQ before writing,
there you can find many questions answered already:
http://www.familytreedna.com/faqjg.html

To post to the DNA discussion group, send your message to:
<dna@...>

DNA Website: http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

This Discussion Group
(dna@...) is hosted by
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Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
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Bennett Greenspan

"chance favors the educated mind"

I have a death certificate for my great-grandfather which states he was
buried at Mt. Hebron in NYC somewhere. this is the second time I've
received this same copy although I'm not sure it's my great-grandfather.
Everything checks except his employment and burial place.

I've been led to believe that he's buried in Washington Cemetery and
I'm waiting right now for a reply to my inquery there. In the meantime I
think I'd like to write to Mt. Hebron, just to cover all bases.

If a New Yorker could get me the address I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks, Dorothy Auerbach Rivers New Mexico, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: The address is also available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/northamerica/nyc.html

In a message dated Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:14:27 -0500, "Raymond Goren"
<cpa@...> writes:

How do I locate birth records >from the town of Brzeziny?
Do I go to LDS or can I have the research done in Poland?

While this message has been responded to privately by the
Brzeziny Town Leader for Jewish Records Indexing - Poland,
I would like to add some comments for the benefit of all
researchers with an interest in their families roots in Poland.

The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland web site at
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl contains the following lists:

* The LDS (Mormon) microfilms of Jewish vital records of Poland
* The towns and the years and types of records for those towns
that have already been indexed by JRI-Poland and which can
be searched on-line.
* The Towns for which there are Shtetl CO-OPs currently indexing
additional Jewish vital records of Poland.
* The Branches of the Polish State Archives for which Jewish
vital records (>from towns whose registers are held in those
branches) are being indexed under the Polish State Archives
/ JRI-Poland project.
This includes the records in current-day Poland as well as
the more than two million records >from former Galician towns
(now in the Ukraine) held in the AGAD Archives in Warsaw.
* And more...

To stay on top of the latest news >from the initiative to index all
available Jewish records of Poland, we urge you to subscribe to
the JRI-Poland mailing list: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/join.htm

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc. is an independent
non-profit U.S. tax-exempt organization and is hosted by JewishGen.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

I have a death certificate for my great-grandfather which states he was
buried at Mt. Hebron in NYC somewhere. this is the second time I've
received this same copy although I'm not sure it's my great-grandfather.
Everything checks except his employment and burial place.

I've been led to believe that he's buried in Washington Cemetery and
I'm waiting right now for a reply to my inquery there. In the meantime I
think I'd like to write to Mt. Hebron, just to cover all bases.

If a New Yorker could get me the address I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks, Dorothy Auerbach Rivers New Mexico, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: The address is also available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/northamerica/nyc.html

In a message dated Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:14:27 -0500, "Raymond Goren"
<cpa@...> writes:

How do I locate birth records >from the town of Brzeziny?
Do I go to LDS or can I have the research done in Poland?

While this message has been responded to privately by the
Brzeziny Town Leader for Jewish Records Indexing - Poland,
I would like to add some comments for the benefit of all
researchers with an interest in their families roots in Poland.

The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland web site at
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl contains the following lists:

* The LDS (Mormon) microfilms of Jewish vital records of Poland
* The towns and the years and types of records for those towns
that have already been indexed by JRI-Poland and which can
be searched on-line.
* The Towns for which there are Shtetl CO-OPs currently indexing
additional Jewish vital records of Poland.
* The Branches of the Polish State Archives for which Jewish
vital records (>from towns whose registers are held in those
branches) are being indexed under the Polish State Archives
/ JRI-Poland project.
This includes the records in current-day Poland as well as
the more than two million records >from former Galician towns
(now in the Ukraine) held in the AGAD Archives in Warsaw.
* And more...

To stay on top of the latest news >from the initiative to index all
available Jewish records of Poland, we urge you to subscribe to
the JRI-Poland mailing list: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/join.htm

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc. is an independent
non-profit U.S. tax-exempt organization and is hosted by JewishGen.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland