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Tulchin #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello
I Would like to help some one who is doing a Tulchin search.
His name is Moshe Koren. He is looking for the name YACHED. He
says it is a very unusual name.
I would also like to hear >from people >from Tulchin. My mother
was born there in 1886.
Thank you for any help you can give us.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@...


Gravestone of Malca FROST-Viewmate 354 #general

MKarsen@...
 

I have posted a photo of the gravestone of my great-grandmother,
Malca FROST, who is buried in Bucharest, Romania at Viewmate 354.
I need help translating the inscription.

Regards

Mike Karsen
Mount Prospect, IL USA

Researching: FROST (Bucharest/Alexandria, Romania)
BLUMENFELD, MARKOVICH, WOLF (Botosani, Romania)
PEKARSKY (Khodorkov/Staraya Kotelnya/Volosov/Zhitomir,
Ukraine)
PELTZER (Zhitomir, Ukraine)
FRIEDMAN (Kremenets, Ukraine)
YANKELOVICH, SHEPSOLOVITCH (Minsk Gubernia, Belarus)


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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tulchin #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello
I Would like to help some one who is doing a Tulchin search.
His name is Moshe Koren. He is looking for the name YACHED. He
says it is a very unusual name.
I would also like to hear >from people >from Tulchin. My mother
was born there in 1886.
Thank you for any help you can give us.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gravestone of Malca FROST-Viewmate 354 #general

MKarsen@...
 

I have posted a photo of the gravestone of my great-grandmother,
Malca FROST, who is buried in Bucharest, Romania at Viewmate 354.
I need help translating the inscription.

Regards

Mike Karsen
Mount Prospect, IL USA

Researching: FROST (Bucharest/Alexandria, Romania)
BLUMENFELD, MARKOVICH, WOLF (Botosani, Romania)
PEKARSKY (Khodorkov/Staraya Kotelnya/Volosov/Zhitomir,
Ukraine)
PELTZER (Zhitomir, Ukraine)
FRIEDMAN (Kremenets, Ukraine)
YANKELOVICH, SHEPSOLOVITCH (Minsk Gubernia, Belarus)


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Posting names: KUMZ, ENGEL, HANK(S, ES), #general

Matilda Engel <m5engel@...>
 

I would like to post the names I am searching: August Hank(s,es), Matilda
Hank(e,es) or Kumz (sp ?), Gotlieb Engel
Louise Drevitz - all >from Poland

Matilda
m5engel@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Posting names: KUMZ, ENGEL, HANK(S, ES), #general

Matilda Engel <m5engel@...>
 

I would like to post the names I am searching: August Hank(s,es), Matilda
Hank(e,es) or Kumz (sp ?), Gotlieb Engel
Louise Drevitz - all >from Poland

Matilda
m5engel@...


Any databases available online to match your mtDNA with various ethnic groups? #dna

Annee Ani <annee_ani@...>
 

Thanks, Condrad Johansson and all. I have a question, though.
If Bulgarians and Karelians are Turkic or Ural/Altaic peoples, and Turkish
genes, according to Cavelli-Sforza's "History and Geography of Human Genes,"
group or cluster together with Iranian genes, with no differences between
the two that are perceptable, and Bulgaria was the ancient country of Thrace
settled by Greeks, Romans, and Scythians >from Georgia (Caucasus Mountains
inhabitants)....before Turks migrated there in early medieval times....what
does that all boil down to as far as origins? According to www.khazaria.com,
many Khazars became Jewish around 865 AD and intermarried with Jews >from
Byzantium and Greece, Crimea, etc. who lived in the area known as Khazaria
before the nomadic Khazarians came there >from the Caspian Sea area and north
of the Volga....perhaps we need to examine the haplotype.

With haplotype "H" and mutations on 182, 356, and 362, the databases say an
origin 20,000 years ago in Spain and France with migrations after the end of
the ice age north to Scandinavia, Britain, and to the Alps and finally, the
Urals....This mutation according to Macaulay, is found in people in England,
Spain, Austria, and Bulgaria.

There was a vast expansion of "H" haplotype >from W. Europe and the
Mediterranean basin to the Urals and to Northern Europe approximately 12,000
years ago. Could possible the women >from Karelia have married the men >from
Byzantium and the children converted? Just wondering....The genome is quite
extensive. Fascinating!

The family still has red hair, blue eyes and mostly blonde or light brown
haired, green-eyed people, so I wonder where that came from, and I heard
Khazars were "fennel-Nordics" that is red-haired Asiatics >from the Caspian
who originally were nomads centered in Daghestan after leaving the Caspian
thousands of years before and settling at Sarkel and Itil in Daghestan
around 400 AD. Conversions began around 865 AD, and the empire broke up in
the 10th century, with Khazars migrating to Romania, Ukraine, some Polish
cities, Hungary, and Transylvania.

I'd like to find out whether any genetic links to Khazars have been examined
to see how many match the Khazar cluster, or is it true almost all Turkic
peoples genes cluster together with Iranian genes? They don't match with
Mongol genes either. Any clues?

Sumerian genes, non Semitic, but pre-Indo European have an origin in the
Zagros mountains. They fled south to escape the Indo European speaking
peoples migrations into the area between Iraq and Iran where the Zagros mts.
are. The language has slight affinities with N. Caucasian languages such as
Adyghe and Shopsug. (Circassian).
So, any clues to databases where you can match your mutations to ethnic
groups according to the three little red letter "C"s on your mtDNA printout?
There's one at Whitehead Institute, I hear, but are any open to the public's
viewing online?

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is closed online. Continue privately if you wish.
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DNA Research #DNA Any databases available online to match your mtDNA with various ethnic groups? #dna

Annee Ani <annee_ani@...>
 

Thanks, Condrad Johansson and all. I have a question, though.
If Bulgarians and Karelians are Turkic or Ural/Altaic peoples, and Turkish
genes, according to Cavelli-Sforza's "History and Geography of Human Genes,"
group or cluster together with Iranian genes, with no differences between
the two that are perceptable, and Bulgaria was the ancient country of Thrace
settled by Greeks, Romans, and Scythians >from Georgia (Caucasus Mountains
inhabitants)....before Turks migrated there in early medieval times....what
does that all boil down to as far as origins? According to www.khazaria.com,
many Khazars became Jewish around 865 AD and intermarried with Jews >from
Byzantium and Greece, Crimea, etc. who lived in the area known as Khazaria
before the nomadic Khazarians came there >from the Caspian Sea area and north
of the Volga....perhaps we need to examine the haplotype.

With haplotype "H" and mutations on 182, 356, and 362, the databases say an
origin 20,000 years ago in Spain and France with migrations after the end of
the ice age north to Scandinavia, Britain, and to the Alps and finally, the
Urals....This mutation according to Macaulay, is found in people in England,
Spain, Austria, and Bulgaria.

There was a vast expansion of "H" haplotype >from W. Europe and the
Mediterranean basin to the Urals and to Northern Europe approximately 12,000
years ago. Could possible the women >from Karelia have married the men >from
Byzantium and the children converted? Just wondering....The genome is quite
extensive. Fascinating!

The family still has red hair, blue eyes and mostly blonde or light brown
haired, green-eyed people, so I wonder where that came from, and I heard
Khazars were "fennel-Nordics" that is red-haired Asiatics >from the Caspian
who originally were nomads centered in Daghestan after leaving the Caspian
thousands of years before and settling at Sarkel and Itil in Daghestan
around 400 AD. Conversions began around 865 AD, and the empire broke up in
the 10th century, with Khazars migrating to Romania, Ukraine, some Polish
cities, Hungary, and Transylvania.

I'd like to find out whether any genetic links to Khazars have been examined
to see how many match the Khazar cluster, or is it true almost all Turkic
peoples genes cluster together with Iranian genes? They don't match with
Mongol genes either. Any clues?

Sumerian genes, non Semitic, but pre-Indo European have an origin in the
Zagros mountains. They fled south to escape the Indo European speaking
peoples migrations into the area between Iraq and Iran where the Zagros mts.
are. The language has slight affinities with N. Caucasian languages such as
Adyghe and Shopsug. (Circassian).
So, any clues to databases where you can match your mutations to ethnic
groups according to the three little red letter "C"s on your mtDNA printout?
There's one at Whitehead Institute, I hear, but are any open to the public's
viewing online?

This subject matter has been previously asked and answered. Thread
is closed online. Continue privately if you wish.
MODERATOR ON DUTY
_________________________________________________________________


Lookup for obituary in Orange County, California needed #general

Aaron D. Gross <adg@...>
 

On 25 Jan 2001 11:14:48 -0800, in soc.genealogy.jewish
sugarjf@... (Jeff Sugarman) wrote:

I would very much appreciate a lookup for an obituary in Orange County,
California for 1946. I'm not sure what newspaper that would be.
Orange County Register http://www.ocregister.com/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lookup for obituary in Orange County, California needed #general

Aaron D. Gross <adg@...>
 

On 25 Jan 2001 11:14:48 -0800, in soc.genealogy.jewish
sugarjf@... (Jeff Sugarman) wrote:

I would very much appreciate a lookup for an obituary in Orange County,
California for 1946. I'm not sure what newspaper that would be.
Orange County Register http://www.ocregister.com/


Jewish Book Week, 3-11 March, London, U.K. #general

Roger Harris <rh@...>
 

Jewish Book Week 2001 will be held in London, England, >from
Saturday 3rd March until Sunday 11th March, both inclusive.
Open daily: 10.30am-10.30pm; Friday: 10.30am-2pm; Saturday: 7.30pm-11pm.
Entry to the Book Fair is free.

Telephone/facsimile: +44 (0)20-7483 2092, for a catalogue.
Web-site: http://www.jewishbookweek.com




Personal disclaimer: I have published this message
as a well-wisher of the Jewish Book Week, London.
Roger Harris. rh@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Book Week, 3-11 March, London, U.K. #general

Roger Harris <rh@...>
 

Jewish Book Week 2001 will be held in London, England, >from
Saturday 3rd March until Sunday 11th March, both inclusive.
Open daily: 10.30am-10.30pm; Friday: 10.30am-2pm; Saturday: 7.30pm-11pm.
Entry to the Book Fair is free.

Telephone/facsimile: +44 (0)20-7483 2092, for a catalogue.
Web-site: http://www.jewishbookweek.com




Personal disclaimer: I have published this message
as a well-wisher of the Jewish Book Week, London.
Roger Harris. rh@...


New to the SIG-- Names #hungary

David Klein <davidklein@...>
 

Hello, all,

I recently formally joined the SIG. I'd like to thank those of you who have
helped build the site and its content for the marvelous job you've done.
--my towns and names are:

Mukachevo: Klein, Waldmann,Fuchs,Ackerman, Singer
Velikiy Berezne: Singer, Eisner, Simkovitz
Kostrina: Singer
Patskanovo: Klein
Sredneye: Klein
Chop: Weiss, Weisberger
Humenne: Weisberger

Members of the families emigrated to the U.S. and Palestine between 1882 and
teh 30's. Many stayed and are assumed lost in the war years and
holocaust(only one confirmed).

I have found a link already on the site- The records that were recorded from
the old Munkacs cemetery listed a Chana Rachel Waldman >from Patskonyev--must
related to mt Great grandmother Chana Rachel Waldman Klein >from the same
place. Although I believe she died in the early 20's, I can't see that her
maiden name would be used--maybe the relative she was named for.

David Klein


Hungary SIG #Hungary New to the SIG-- Names #hungary

David Klein <davidklein@...>
 

Hello, all,

I recently formally joined the SIG. I'd like to thank those of you who have
helped build the site and its content for the marvelous job you've done.
--my towns and names are:

Mukachevo: Klein, Waldmann,Fuchs,Ackerman, Singer
Velikiy Berezne: Singer, Eisner, Simkovitz
Kostrina: Singer
Patskanovo: Klein
Sredneye: Klein
Chop: Weiss, Weisberger
Humenne: Weisberger

Members of the families emigrated to the U.S. and Palestine between 1882 and
teh 30's. Many stayed and are assumed lost in the war years and
holocaust(only one confirmed).

I have found a link already on the site- The records that were recorded from
the old Munkacs cemetery listed a Chana Rachel Waldman >from Patskonyev--must
related to mt Great grandmother Chana Rachel Waldman Klein >from the same
place. Although I believe she died in the early 20's, I can't see that her
maiden name would be used--maybe the relative she was named for.

David Klein


researching ... #hungary

George Farkas <george@...>
 

Hi,

Per request,

I am researching FARKAS >from Ottomany (Otomani), Genyete (Ghenetea) and
Marghita, all now in Romania, FRIED >from Nyirbator, Hungary, LINKS,
KNOPFELMACHER, SPITZER and >from Holesov, Hlinik, O'Beszterce (Stara
Bystrica), and Zilina, and WEISZ/VIDOR >from the Lipto St-Miklos neighbourhood.

Any information about the villages and towns in >from 1600 to the holocaust
is also of interest.

George Farkas
george@...


Help with town name, please! #hungary

Marian Brown
 

On a Kosice birth record the parents are listed as coming from: Roz.R.V

(or Roz.K.V). Does anyone know what the town would be? Rozgony or
Rozhanovce?

Thanks,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, Ohio


Hungary SIG #Hungary researching ... #hungary

George Farkas <george@...>
 

Hi,

Per request,

I am researching FARKAS >from Ottomany (Otomani), Genyete (Ghenetea) and
Marghita, all now in Romania, FRIED >from Nyirbator, Hungary, LINKS,
KNOPFELMACHER, SPITZER and >from Holesov, Hlinik, O'Beszterce (Stara
Bystrica), and Zilina, and WEISZ/VIDOR >from the Lipto St-Miklos neighbourhood.

Any information about the villages and towns in >from 1600 to the holocaust
is also of interest.

George Farkas
george@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary Help with town name, please! #hungary

Marian Brown
 

On a Kosice birth record the parents are listed as coming from: Roz.R.V

(or Roz.K.V). Does anyone know what the town would be? Rozgony or
Rozhanovce?

Thanks,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, Ohio


Always a project #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

During my visit to Israel I was told by Professor Michael Silber, the
foremost scholar of Hungarian Jewry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
that there existed an index, called a "Regista", of documents housed at the
Berehovo archives. This index lists documents housed at that archive which
involved Jews in court cases, disputes that involved the government and
other forms of interaction with the government. Written in Hungarian, each
summary is about ten lines, and there are approximately fifteen summaries
per page. The entire Regista is about 150 pages. The Regista was prepared
perhaps 10-15 years ago by a professional researcher who was hired (by
whom?) specifically for the purpose of creating this index. A copy of the
Regista exists at the Central Archives of the Jewish People, located on the
Givat Ram campus of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Thanks to the
cooperation of Hadassah Assouline, one of the directors of the institute,
and a long time friend of genealogists I was mailed a copy of the Regista.
The cost/contribution to the institute of $200 was very reasonable.
Furthermore, I requested and received permission to create a database of the
Jewish names and towns mentioned in each summary of the Regista. This index
of the index (Regista), when completed, will allow us to easily search for a
name, and then request a copy of the complete summary. Since each summary is
also identified by a distinct number, it will be an simple task to identify
any summary included in the Regista. Each listing (record) in the database
will, at a minimum, include the
name, town of residence and ID number for each summary. Fantasizing (and I
use this word deliberately) one step further, it may then be possible to
request by mail or in person a copy of the original document itself >from the
Berehovo archive.

Another tidbit >from my meeting with Professor Silber:

Recently, Debbi Korman, in a message to the H-sig, correctly informed us
that only certain counties of the 1848 census had been microfilmed by the
LDS and were therefore available to us. Now (last month), I learn from
Professor Silber, chair of the Rosenfeld Institute for Hungarian Jewish
Studies, at the Hebrew University, that the entire 1848 census has been
discovered (re-discovered?), and a copy is in the possession of Dr. Gyorgy
Haraszti of Budapest. Together, they plan to digitize the entire census and
make it available on a CD. That, of course, is exciting news; however, Prof.
Silber added that it will be years until the work is completed. I offered to
solicit and organize teams of volunteers who would help transcribe and input
the data. He seemed interested, and we will need to follow up on this
possibility.



Best wishes

Louis Schonfeld
Cleveland, OH

visit my shtetlsite: www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mukachevo/
visit our website: www.jewishgen.org/Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary Always a project #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

During my visit to Israel I was told by Professor Michael Silber, the
foremost scholar of Hungarian Jewry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
that there existed an index, called a "Regista", of documents housed at the
Berehovo archives. This index lists documents housed at that archive which
involved Jews in court cases, disputes that involved the government and
other forms of interaction with the government. Written in Hungarian, each
summary is about ten lines, and there are approximately fifteen summaries
per page. The entire Regista is about 150 pages. The Regista was prepared
perhaps 10-15 years ago by a professional researcher who was hired (by
whom?) specifically for the purpose of creating this index. A copy of the
Regista exists at the Central Archives of the Jewish People, located on the
Givat Ram campus of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Thanks to the
cooperation of Hadassah Assouline, one of the directors of the institute,
and a long time friend of genealogists I was mailed a copy of the Regista.
The cost/contribution to the institute of $200 was very reasonable.
Furthermore, I requested and received permission to create a database of the
Jewish names and towns mentioned in each summary of the Regista. This index
of the index (Regista), when completed, will allow us to easily search for a
name, and then request a copy of the complete summary. Since each summary is
also identified by a distinct number, it will be an simple task to identify
any summary included in the Regista. Each listing (record) in the database
will, at a minimum, include the
name, town of residence and ID number for each summary. Fantasizing (and I
use this word deliberately) one step further, it may then be possible to
request by mail or in person a copy of the original document itself >from the
Berehovo archive.

Another tidbit >from my meeting with Professor Silber:

Recently, Debbi Korman, in a message to the H-sig, correctly informed us
that only certain counties of the 1848 census had been microfilmed by the
LDS and were therefore available to us. Now (last month), I learn from
Professor Silber, chair of the Rosenfeld Institute for Hungarian Jewish
Studies, at the Hebrew University, that the entire 1848 census has been
discovered (re-discovered?), and a copy is in the possession of Dr. Gyorgy
Haraszti of Budapest. Together, they plan to digitize the entire census and
make it available on a CD. That, of course, is exciting news; however, Prof.
Silber added that it will be years until the work is completed. I offered to
solicit and organize teams of volunteers who would help transcribe and input
the data. He seemed interested, and we will need to follow up on this
possibility.



Best wishes

Louis Schonfeld
Cleveland, OH

visit my shtetlsite: www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mukachevo/
visit our website: www.jewishgen.org/Hungary