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Edmonton Federation Cemetery , London , England #general

Kathryn Michael <kathryn@...>
 

Dear All

My visit this morning to Edmontons Federation Cemetery was a brief one.
Unfortunately over the years there have been many cases of vandalism at
this cemetery . I was unable to get a list of the damaged stones, of the
most recent attack & previous attacks.
If people want to send me the names & dates of death of their family
members I am able to get it checked quite easily. If you have the plot
number it makes it even easier for me. ( the records are not yet
computerised - I need to work on that one !!)
I will then keep the list on file & use it in case of future vandalism.


Please respond privately with your information on this matter

Kathryn Michael
London UK

kathryn@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Edmonton Federation Cemetery , London , England #general

Kathryn Michael <kathryn@...>
 

Dear All

My visit this morning to Edmontons Federation Cemetery was a brief one.
Unfortunately over the years there have been many cases of vandalism at
this cemetery . I was unable to get a list of the damaged stones, of the
most recent attack & previous attacks.
If people want to send me the names & dates of death of their family
members I am able to get it checked quite easily. If you have the plot
number it makes it even easier for me. ( the records are not yet
computerised - I need to work on that one !!)
I will then keep the list on file & use it in case of future vandalism.


Please respond privately with your information on this matter

Kathryn Michael
London UK

kathryn@...


Seymour Dipkin <Msdips@aol.com> #general

Stephen A. Cohen
 

Mail to Seymour Dipkin <Msdips@...> (as listed in JGFF) has been
returned. Does anyone have his current address?

Best regards,

Stephen A. Cohen #12106
East Meadow NY


PS: I am researching the following families:

BAUM:Germany/Bosen; EISENKRAMER, MARX & LEFEVRE, LEFEBRE: Germany:Rhineland
Palat; BASIST/ BASSIST:Belarus/Lida Dist; COHEN formerly
SHEINHOUS/SHEINHOUSE/ SHEINHAUS: Belarus/Radoshkovichi, Molodechno;
BIRNBAUM/ GOLDBERG/LEINKRAM: Galicia:Krakow; SCHNEPS/SHNEPS/SZNEPS:
Galicia:Debica formerly Dembitz,Tarnow; GELLER:Galicia:Mielec; KREINDLER;
ECKSTEIN;


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seymour Dipkin <Msdips@aol.com> #general

Stephen A. Cohen
 

Mail to Seymour Dipkin <Msdips@...> (as listed in JGFF) has been
returned. Does anyone have his current address?

Best regards,

Stephen A. Cohen #12106
East Meadow NY


PS: I am researching the following families:

BAUM:Germany/Bosen; EISENKRAMER, MARX & LEFEVRE, LEFEBRE: Germany:Rhineland
Palat; BASIST/ BASSIST:Belarus/Lida Dist; COHEN formerly
SHEINHOUS/SHEINHOUSE/ SHEINHAUS: Belarus/Radoshkovichi, Molodechno;
BIRNBAUM/ GOLDBERG/LEINKRAM: Galicia:Krakow; SCHNEPS/SHNEPS/SZNEPS:
Galicia:Debica formerly Dembitz,Tarnow; GELLER:Galicia:Mielec; KREINDLER;
ECKSTEIN;


Re: Mindy #general

Mindy Scheer <mscheer925@...>
 

Mindy in Jewish would be Molca or Molka.

Some young American girls who liked that name have nicknamed
themselves Mindy instead of Melinda or Melissa.

Except for me, I am an original Mindy!

Mindy Scheer


Searching For Ancestors of Bernard SCHEER, Galicia, Austria #general

Mindy Scheer <mscheer925@...>
 

I anyone has any info on the ancestors of Bernard Scheer >from Galicia,
Austria I would certainly appreciate anything that you might know.

Thanks,

Mindy


Re: Genealogical Protocol #general

Hank Mishkoff <HankM@...>
 

On July 7th, a message came through on Jewishgen and on
soc.genealogy.jewish >from Rob Kuijsten of Planet Internet that
he had a great database, Usenet Genealogy Archives, that could be
searched. It was located at deja.com. When I went to that database,
I discovered that all the letters I (and others) had written to the
Jewishgen discussion group were there for perusal, as well as postings
from several other discussion groups and newsgroups. On the one hand,
it's always great to find a new database >from which to discover
long-lost relatives. However, it is most uncomfortable to think that
the postings made to one newsgroup or discussion group are available to
anyone at all.
When you send a note to the JewishGen Discussion Group, and if that
note is accepted and posted by the moderator, that note appears in
soc.genealogy.jewish, an Internet (Usenet) newsgroup that can be read by
anyone in the world. Notes that appear in newsgroups can be and are
archived by organizations such as deja.com, which means that those notes
will theoretically be available forever. This can be disconcerting; I know
that I've fired off notes to newsgroups in haste or anger, and now my
stupidity is preserved for posterity.

You say that it makes you "uncomfortable to think that the postings made
to one newsgroup or discussion group are available to anyone at all."
However, that availability is a fact of life on the Net, whether it makes
you uncomfortable or not. That being the case, if such availability makes
you uncomfortable, you should either be very careful about what you post
or you should not post at all. Or you should grit your teeth and get used
to being uncomfortable.

I hope that didn't sound harsh -- but on the other hand, some of the
realities of life on the Net *are* pretty harsh sometimes, and it's just
something that we're all going to have to get used to, for better or for
worse.

Hank Mishkoff (Dallas, Texas)
HankM@...


Re: Genealogical Protocol #general

MarlaJAP@...
 

As a relative "newbie" to genealogy, and one stuck with huge roadblocks in
getting past my gp's, I have to agree with Mr. Plotz. I have included my
generation (without specific birth or death information, of course) in my
FTJP submission, and on the one to Ancestry.com, as well. My reasoning is
simple: I have lost touch with most of my cousins through the years - we
are an itinerant people, and my family is no exception. In addition, my
father and my pgp's died before my 10th birthday, and my mother had a
major falling-out with his family shortly thereafter. Hence, my hope is
that somewhere out there is a cousin who is also researching and will
contact me. I am less concerned with identity theft and who else might be
using my so-called "personal" information than I am with finding these
lost members of my family. In addition to those I know about, my pgm had
8 or 9 siblings, with whom she lost touch during the Holocaust. Some are
rumored to have survived and moved to Israel. Who knows? They, too, may
be out there in JewishGen-land, and may recognize the names in my
submission. Should they contact me, they may be the key to unlock my past.

If someone were seriously interested in finding this information (my
mother's maiden name, etc.), there are many other ways to obtain other
than genealogy sites. The internet is a vast world of interconnected
networks...all anyone would need to do is "hack" into my employer's site
and Bingo! That hacker would know more about me than anyone could ever
discover >from JewishGen or Ancestry.

Regards,

Marla Goldman
Mesa AZ

Researching:
GOLDMAN/CITRIN/CYTRIN/KOPYT - Russian Provinces (exact area unknown!)/Boston MA
REINER - Germany/St Petersburg/Moscow/Rosenhayn NJ/Philadelphia PA/
Boston MA
BLEICHER - Bucuresti/NYC NY


Wojslawice #general

Sandra WAJSTAUB <sandra_wajstaub@...>
 

I've noticed that there are 6 listings for Wojslawice, each one a different
distance >from Warsaw. Does anyone know why there are a number of listings.
Which is the correct one? Thanks.

Sandra Wajstaub


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mindy #general

Mindy Scheer <mscheer925@...>
 

Mindy in Jewish would be Molca or Molka.

Some young American girls who liked that name have nicknamed
themselves Mindy instead of Melinda or Melissa.

Except for me, I am an original Mindy!

Mindy Scheer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching For Ancestors of Bernard SCHEER, Galicia, Austria #general

Mindy Scheer <mscheer925@...>
 

I anyone has any info on the ancestors of Bernard Scheer >from Galicia,
Austria I would certainly appreciate anything that you might know.

Thanks,

Mindy


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Genealogical Protocol #general

Hank Mishkoff <HankM@...>
 

On July 7th, a message came through on Jewishgen and on
soc.genealogy.jewish >from Rob Kuijsten of Planet Internet that
he had a great database, Usenet Genealogy Archives, that could be
searched. It was located at deja.com. When I went to that database,
I discovered that all the letters I (and others) had written to the
Jewishgen discussion group were there for perusal, as well as postings
from several other discussion groups and newsgroups. On the one hand,
it's always great to find a new database >from which to discover
long-lost relatives. However, it is most uncomfortable to think that
the postings made to one newsgroup or discussion group are available to
anyone at all.
When you send a note to the JewishGen Discussion Group, and if that
note is accepted and posted by the moderator, that note appears in
soc.genealogy.jewish, an Internet (Usenet) newsgroup that can be read by
anyone in the world. Notes that appear in newsgroups can be and are
archived by organizations such as deja.com, which means that those notes
will theoretically be available forever. This can be disconcerting; I know
that I've fired off notes to newsgroups in haste or anger, and now my
stupidity is preserved for posterity.

You say that it makes you "uncomfortable to think that the postings made
to one newsgroup or discussion group are available to anyone at all."
However, that availability is a fact of life on the Net, whether it makes
you uncomfortable or not. That being the case, if such availability makes
you uncomfortable, you should either be very careful about what you post
or you should not post at all. Or you should grit your teeth and get used
to being uncomfortable.

I hope that didn't sound harsh -- but on the other hand, some of the
realities of life on the Net *are* pretty harsh sometimes, and it's just
something that we're all going to have to get used to, for better or for
worse.

Hank Mishkoff (Dallas, Texas)
HankM@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Genealogical Protocol #general

MarlaJAP@...
 

As a relative "newbie" to genealogy, and one stuck with huge roadblocks in
getting past my gp's, I have to agree with Mr. Plotz. I have included my
generation (without specific birth or death information, of course) in my
FTJP submission, and on the one to Ancestry.com, as well. My reasoning is
simple: I have lost touch with most of my cousins through the years - we
are an itinerant people, and my family is no exception. In addition, my
father and my pgp's died before my 10th birthday, and my mother had a
major falling-out with his family shortly thereafter. Hence, my hope is
that somewhere out there is a cousin who is also researching and will
contact me. I am less concerned with identity theft and who else might be
using my so-called "personal" information than I am with finding these
lost members of my family. In addition to those I know about, my pgm had
8 or 9 siblings, with whom she lost touch during the Holocaust. Some are
rumored to have survived and moved to Israel. Who knows? They, too, may
be out there in JewishGen-land, and may recognize the names in my
submission. Should they contact me, they may be the key to unlock my past.

If someone were seriously interested in finding this information (my
mother's maiden name, etc.), there are many other ways to obtain other
than genealogy sites. The internet is a vast world of interconnected
networks...all anyone would need to do is "hack" into my employer's site
and Bingo! That hacker would know more about me than anyone could ever
discover >from JewishGen or Ancestry.

Regards,

Marla Goldman
Mesa AZ

Researching:
GOLDMAN/CITRIN/CYTRIN/KOPYT - Russian Provinces (exact area unknown!)/Boston MA
REINER - Germany/St Petersburg/Moscow/Rosenhayn NJ/Philadelphia PA/
Boston MA
BLEICHER - Bucuresti/NYC NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wojslawice #general

Sandra WAJSTAUB <sandra_wajstaub@...>
 

I've noticed that there are 6 listings for Wojslawice, each one a different
distance >from Warsaw. Does anyone know why there are a number of listings.
Which is the correct one? Thanks.

Sandra Wajstaub


Looking for Spanish roots #general

Laurent Germanaud <malaviel@...>
 

I am looking for my spanish roots.Can someone help and write to me if
one has these names in his family? The areas >from which I know something
are:Valladolid, Guadalajara and its province,Cuenca,Teruel,Valencia.

I send the list of surnames I have been able to get untill now.

Name year place

Saez Basilio Canete(near Cuenca)
Lucas Matilde Canete?
Gutierrez Sebastiana 1912 Fuenzavinan(Guadalajara)
Moreno Azanon Lorenza 1884/1963 Abanades(same province)
Gutierrez De Francisco Trifon 1875/1958 Abanades
Moreno Sanudo Angel El Sotillo
Azanon Rodrigo Cayetana
Rodrigo Sebastiana
Azanon Molinero Francisco
Sanudo De La Hoz Simona Abanades
Rodrigo Moreno Felix Torrecuadradilla
De Francisco Martinez Fabiana
Gutierrez Matarranz Felipe Abanades
Martinez Florencia
De Francisco Angel Abanades
Matarranz Cayetana
Gutierrez Fernando Esplegares
Novo Muniz Eleuterio 1894/1964 Valladolid
Novo Muniz Dorotea 1896 Valladolid
Novo Pever Moises 1859 Penafiel
Muniz Guerra Anastasia 1868 Valladolid
Pever Ildefonsa
Novo Romualdo Penafiel
Muniz Guerra Natalio Tordesillas
Guerra Magdalena Valladolid

Thank you to write to my email adress if you have any informations
about these persons.
Violette Novo Germanaud France malaviel@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Visit our webpage, http://www.jewishgen.org --
there you will find the JewishGen Family Finder, the Family Tree
of the Jewish People, and many other resources to help in your research.


unnamed babies #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Ricki Zunk <rickiz@...> wrote about two baby boys
who died at or just after birth and were not named.

As has already been noted, children who died in the first few
days of their lives were often not given first names and may have
unmarked graves. This does not mean, however, that their brief lives,
their deaths, and their burials went unrecorded. Their names typically
appear on birth, death, and cemetery records as "Baby SURNAME."

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@...

====

Ricki Zunk <rickiz@...> wrote...

... her parents had three baby boys who died
... two were dead at or just after birth).
The other two boys were not named.
... her mother told her that back in that era (1890s) it was
the practice for babies to be buried in a "special section of the
cemetery," usually without a marker over the grave.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Spanish roots #general

Laurent Germanaud <malaviel@...>
 

I am looking for my spanish roots.Can someone help and write to me if
one has these names in his family? The areas >from which I know something
are:Valladolid, Guadalajara and its province,Cuenca,Teruel,Valencia.

I send the list of surnames I have been able to get untill now.

Name year place

Saez Basilio Canete(near Cuenca)
Lucas Matilde Canete?
Gutierrez Sebastiana 1912 Fuenzavinan(Guadalajara)
Moreno Azanon Lorenza 1884/1963 Abanades(same province)
Gutierrez De Francisco Trifon 1875/1958 Abanades
Moreno Sanudo Angel El Sotillo
Azanon Rodrigo Cayetana
Rodrigo Sebastiana
Azanon Molinero Francisco
Sanudo De La Hoz Simona Abanades
Rodrigo Moreno Felix Torrecuadradilla
De Francisco Martinez Fabiana
Gutierrez Matarranz Felipe Abanades
Martinez Florencia
De Francisco Angel Abanades
Matarranz Cayetana
Gutierrez Fernando Esplegares
Novo Muniz Eleuterio 1894/1964 Valladolid
Novo Muniz Dorotea 1896 Valladolid
Novo Pever Moises 1859 Penafiel
Muniz Guerra Anastasia 1868 Valladolid
Pever Ildefonsa
Novo Romualdo Penafiel
Muniz Guerra Natalio Tordesillas
Guerra Magdalena Valladolid

Thank you to write to my email adress if you have any informations
about these persons.
Violette Novo Germanaud France malaviel@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Visit our webpage, http://www.jewishgen.org --
there you will find the JewishGen Family Finder, the Family Tree
of the Jewish People, and many other resources to help in your research.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen unnamed babies #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Ricki Zunk <rickiz@...> wrote about two baby boys
who died at or just after birth and were not named.

As has already been noted, children who died in the first few
days of their lives were often not given first names and may have
unmarked graves. This does not mean, however, that their brief lives,
their deaths, and their burials went unrecorded. Their names typically
appear on birth, death, and cemetery records as "Baby SURNAME."

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@...

====

Ricki Zunk <rickiz@...> wrote...

... her parents had three baby boys who died
... two were dead at or just after birth).
The other two boys were not named.
... her mother told her that back in that era (1890s) it was
the practice for babies to be buried in a "special section of the
cemetery," usually without a marker over the grave.


Re: What does "Mima" mean? #general

HMW <h_m_w@...>
 

I can remember a "game" that my grandmother brought >from the Ukraine.
It was played with the child and his mother. Each would pinch the skin on
the top of the other's hand (alternating). While you now had the 4 hands
pinched together you would move them up and down (in union) while singing
"mima mima mima ..." A lot of excitement esp. if you had more than 2
people playing. Sounds stupid but would make kids laugh back then. Not too
much else for excitement in the 50's.

Murray Weinstein
h_m_w@...


Marjorie Feldman <feldman@...> wrote in message
news:3971A8F4.BDF71AE5@......

I interviewed an elderly cousin of my grandfather who referred to my
great grandmother as "the Mima." She does not know what it means other
than that was the name everyone referred to my great grandmother as. If
anyone knows what "Mima" means, please reply to me privately.


GLAZER boarders in l910 US Census #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Just thought this may help someone.
I found my grandparents David and Liba
Glaser (Glazer) living on 80-82 First St.,
Manhattan with their three children. They
emigrated in l905 >from Kartuz Bereza and
had been married 6 years. David was 28
and Liba 26. David is a clothing shop operator.

Also listed as boarders were:

Asher LEVY, age 23 >from Russia, emigrated in l905
clothing shop operator

Ben JOSOLOFSKY, age l9 >from Russia, emigrated in l907
clothing shop operator.

Minnie JOSOLOFSKY, age 20 >from Russia, emigrated in l905,
clothing shop finisher.

I know that the two Kartuz Bereza Benevolent Associations
were in existence at that time and that these two boarders
came over about the same time as David and worked in
the same type of job. So I thought I would pass on the names
so that someone may make a connection. Perhaps my
grandparents helped them out and also added to his income
by taking in possibly boarders that were >from or near his
hometown.

Kartuz Bereza is in Pruzhany District, Grodno Gubernia, Belarus.

Hoping this will be of help to someone.

Diane Glazer Jacobs
New York
Researching
GLAZER, RABINOIWITZ, JOSEPH, BEYER, COHEN, FEINBERG,
GREENFIELD, RAYFIELD, SAMUELS - Kartuz Bereza and Argentina
SINGMAN, SCHUMKAV, STEINBERG, LEVY, LESNIE, MULLER,
ROSENBERG, MARCUS, EICHEL , SHALTIKOFF, FRADIN, BARDACH,
DANVERS, DICK, DIKOVSKY , SHERMAN, HEILMAN >from Russia and Lithuania
BEGUN, BEGIN, BAGOON >from Pinsk and Israel