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Social Security numbers #general

David Schwertfeger <dschwert@...>
 

If someone receives a Social Security#, and they die, but if no one
ever reports the death to the Social Security office, does the number
remain active forever? It would seem silly if someone was by their records
over a 100 years old and their was no usage of the # in over 50 years to
keep a # active. But if there were no close relatives nearby and no
death benfits being paid or claimed, then perhaps the social security
office could not ever recieve any notice. I can not get a straight answer
from the Social Security office on this. I think some of my relatives
might have been issued a number, but never claimed any benefits for one
reason or another. Any suggestions?
Diane


Re: Manchester, England photograph #general

Kroll
 

I greatly appreciate your drawing the error to my attention and that of the
entire group. Obviously I was talking about a photograph >from the latter
part of the 19th century, namely the 1880s. To learn that photography was
invented only in the first half of the 19th century was indeed
illuminating. Eliezer Kroll, Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: <MBernet@...>
To: <krolle@...>; <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Manchester, England photograph


In a message dated 8/1/00 12:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
krolle@... writes:

<< Imagine that we are talking about the second half
of the 18th century >>

Hard to imagine. Photography was invented in the first half of the 19th
century.

Michael Bernet, New York


Southern Africa Jewish genealogy at JewishGen #general

Roger Harris <rwsh@...>
 

Southern Africa Jewish genealogy at JewishGen:
URL: http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Manchester, England photograph #general

Kroll
 

I greatly appreciate your drawing the error to my attention and that of the
entire group. Obviously I was talking about a photograph >from the latter
part of the 19th century, namely the 1880s. To learn that photography was
invented only in the first half of the 19th century was indeed
illuminating. Eliezer Kroll, Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: <MBernet@...>
To: <krolle@...>; <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Manchester, England photograph


In a message dated 8/1/00 12:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
krolle@... writes:

<< Imagine that we are talking about the second half
of the 18th century >>

Hard to imagine. Photography was invented in the first half of the 19th
century.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Social Security numbers #general

David Schwertfeger <dschwert@...>
 

If someone receives a Social Security#, and they die, but if no one
ever reports the death to the Social Security office, does the number
remain active forever? It would seem silly if someone was by their records
over a 100 years old and their was no usage of the # in over 50 years to
keep a # active. But if there were no close relatives nearby and no
death benfits being paid or claimed, then perhaps the social security
office could not ever recieve any notice. I can not get a straight answer
from the Social Security office on this. I think some of my relatives
might have been issued a number, but never claimed any benefits for one
reason or another. Any suggestions?
Diane


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Southern Africa Jewish genealogy at JewishGen #general

Roger Harris <rwsh@...>
 

Southern Africa Jewish genealogy at JewishGen:
URL: http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica


Re: belarus digest: August 01, 2000 Seattle #belarus

Sylvia Schildt <creativa@...>
 

Re: Seattle

My father Isidore SIEGEL o"s was one of those who came through the
Seattle way and I have even written a movie script about his journey
called "Yokahama Itzik!" ... there were immigrants, many Litvaks among
them, who took the Eastern route on a kind of underground railway, with
help >from HIAS.

Reasons vary >from individual to individual.

It took my Dad about a year to go >from Malat (Moletai) -- he would
find work, food and lodging and earn ticket money for the next leg of
the journey. This was in the 1910's. After passing through Russia,
Siberia, Mongolia, Manchuria, he made his way to Yokohama Japan where
he earned enough money for the steamer. Arriving in the US he took the
train to the East Coast, first Baltimore, then New York.

Anyhow, the Seattle story is more widespread than people realize --
not everyone passed through Ellis Island.

Sylvia Schildt
Baltimore, Maryland


Dasheff/Greenfield #belarus

AVILEV@...
 

I have just received the death certificates for my maternal great parents
- Ethel Moshe (or Mottel) GREENFIELD. I have learned that Ethel's parents
were Morris and Tillie DASHEFF >from Russia. (I cannot seem to make out
Tillie's maiden name, but it looks like Sugar or Sugen). Moshe's parents
were David Elias GREENFIELD and Anna SCHWARTZ GREENFIELD >from Poland.

If anyone has any information on these names, I would very much appreciate
it if you would contact me
MAILTO:avilev@....

Thanks.

Laureen Glicklin Sussman
Researching:
GLICKLIN/GLICKIN >from SHKLOV, BYKHOV AND KORMA
GREENFIELD >from BERDICHEV
DASHEFF/JANKOFF
BLINDER OR BERENSON (CHANGED TO GOLDSTEIN) >from POLAND


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: belarus digest: August 01, 2000 Seattle #belarus

Sylvia Schildt <creativa@...>
 

Re: Seattle

My father Isidore SIEGEL o"s was one of those who came through the
Seattle way and I have even written a movie script about his journey
called "Yokahama Itzik!" ... there were immigrants, many Litvaks among
them, who took the Eastern route on a kind of underground railway, with
help >from HIAS.

Reasons vary >from individual to individual.

It took my Dad about a year to go >from Malat (Moletai) -- he would
find work, food and lodging and earn ticket money for the next leg of
the journey. This was in the 1910's. After passing through Russia,
Siberia, Mongolia, Manchuria, he made his way to Yokohama Japan where
he earned enough money for the steamer. Arriving in the US he took the
train to the East Coast, first Baltimore, then New York.

Anyhow, the Seattle story is more widespread than people realize --
not everyone passed through Ellis Island.

Sylvia Schildt
Baltimore, Maryland


Belarus SIG #Belarus Dasheff/Greenfield #belarus

AVILEV@...
 

I have just received the death certificates for my maternal great parents
- Ethel Moshe (or Mottel) GREENFIELD. I have learned that Ethel's parents
were Morris and Tillie DASHEFF >from Russia. (I cannot seem to make out
Tillie's maiden name, but it looks like Sugar or Sugen). Moshe's parents
were David Elias GREENFIELD and Anna SCHWARTZ GREENFIELD >from Poland.

If anyone has any information on these names, I would very much appreciate
it if you would contact me
MAILTO:avilev@....

Thanks.

Laureen Glicklin Sussman
Researching:
GLICKLIN/GLICKIN >from SHKLOV, BYKHOV AND KORMA
GREENFIELD >from BERDICHEV
DASHEFF/JANKOFF
BLINDER OR BERENSON (CHANGED TO GOLDSTEIN) >from POLAND


JRI Poland #Poland Plawno, Mstow, Czestochowa #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

A few weeks ago, I reported that LDS has extremely detailed maps
of Poland. Many people wrote to ask "How detailed?"

Here are examples....

For Plawno, the home of my TALMAN and JURKIEWICZ families:

huge file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.Plawno.jpg

reduced file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.PlawnoSm.jpg

My ENGLENDER and KIFER families lived here, in Mstow:

huge file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.Mstow.jpg

reduced file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.MstowSm.jpg

Finally, here is Czestochowa, where my ENGLENDER and STRAUSBERG
families lived starting around 1880:

huge file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.Czesto.jpg

reduced file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.CzestoSm.jpg

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN, LISS Turkey: KAZEZ, FRESKO, ALHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/dk/page.html

--------------------

My first message:

--------------------

If you are looking for maps of Poland, note that an
extremely detailed map is available >from LDS. I've
seen it briefly.

Go here:

http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp

Search for this film:

6,312,622

Here is the title:

Mapa Polski (Taktyczna)

And here is the description:

Set of 483 maps of Poland is it existed between World War I
and World War II (1918-1939). Of the 483 we have 278 in paper
form and 481 in microform. Some of the maps are reprints done
in 1943 by the British War Office and in 1940 by the Deutsche
Landesaufnahme. The first two fiche of the microfiche set
comprise an index map and a legend of the maps symbols used.
The maps are all designated with a pas (row) and slup (column)
number, by which they are filed. The fiche set is lacking pas
31, slup 29; pas 41, slup 43; and pas 58, slup 40. The paper
set is much less complete, the holdings of which are indicated
by highlighting on a paper copy of the index map filed at the
beginning of the set.


Plawno, Mstow, Czestochowa #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

A few weeks ago, I reported that LDS has extremely detailed maps
of Poland. Many people wrote to ask "How detailed?"

Here are examples....

For Plawno, the home of my TALMAN and JURKIEWICZ families:

huge file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.Plawno.jpg

reduced file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.PlawnoSm.jpg

My ENGLENDER and KIFER families lived here, in Mstow:

huge file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.Mstow.jpg

reduced file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.MstowSm.jpg

Finally, here is Czestochowa, where my ENGLENDER and STRAUSBERG
families lived starting around 1880:

huge file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.Czesto.jpg

reduced file--
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0801.CzestoSm.jpg

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN, LISS Turkey: KAZEZ, FRESKO, ALHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/dk/page.html

--------------------

My first message:

--------------------

If you are looking for maps of Poland, note that an
extremely detailed map is available >from LDS. I've
seen it briefly.

Go here:

http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp

Search for this film:

6,312,622

Here is the title:

Mapa Polski (Taktyczna)

And here is the description:

Set of 483 maps of Poland is it existed between World War I
and World War II (1918-1939). Of the 483 we have 278 in paper
form and 481 in microform. Some of the maps are reprints done
in 1943 by the British War Office and in 1940 by the Deutsche
Landesaufnahme. The first two fiche of the microfiche set
comprise an index map and a legend of the maps symbols used.
The maps are all designated with a pas (row) and slup (column)
number, by which they are filed. The fiche set is lacking pas
31, slup 29; pas 41, slup 43; and pas 58, slup 40. The paper
set is much less complete, the holdings of which are indicated
by highlighting on a paper copy of the index map filed at the
beginning of the set.


Chester, Pennsylania #general

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

This is to announce the formation of
a new independent discussion group
concerning the Jewish community in
Chester, Pennsylvania.

If you have roots in Chester, PA and the
surrounding area (Marcus Hook, Linwood)
please send an e-mail to:

jewish.chester-subscribe@...

Hope to hear >from all of you soon!!

Paul W. Ginsburg
Bethesda, MD


property tax lists? #general

George
 

I was reading the Bobrka (now Ukraine, formerly Galicia, near Lemberg)
Yizkor book. Someone had written a pretty thorough history of the town
and much of the information seemed to come >from the Landesarchiv in
Vienna. There was detailed information about the amount of taxes
collected >from the Jewish Community and how many households there were in
the community dating >from the 1500's. I was wondering whether anyone
knows whether the property tax records are detailed and whether they are
in existence. Apparently the Bobrka city hall was destroyed in WW1. Are
property tax records a good source of information?

Also there wer references to the census of 1880, 1890 and 1910. There
was also reference to details about the election, and how many votes each
candidate got. One of the winning candidates was named Abraham Beller and
was no doubt a relative of mine. I wonder where I could find more
information?

George Frankel
San Francisco


Jews of Berdichev #general

Ted Margulis <tedm333@...>
 

Salomon Guerschengorn asked "Where can I get information about Jews of
Berdechev?"

He didn't indicate what time period, but if he, or for that matter,
anyone else is interested in learning about Berdechev, in the pre
W.W.II and during the first months of the war era, there is an
excellent book entitled "The Bones of Berdechev" which discusses the
fate of the Jews in the immediate area of this well known Ukrainian
city. The book was written by the well known writer, Vasily Grossman
and published by The Free Press, a division of Simon and Shuster.
ISBN 0-684-82295-4. I find it a bit difficult to read, as I am
normally a very fast reader, but there is so much to be absorbed in
Grossman's story. I would heartily recommend it as a book to provide
an education to the atrocities of the Nazi era, not that enough hasn't
already been printed.

Further, more Berdechev information can be found on my new web site
http://jewishwebindex.com as well as for other countries and
subjects.

Warm (it's finally under 100 here today) regards,

Ted Margulis
Palm Desert, CA
tedm333@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews of Berdichev #general

Ted Margulis <tedm333@...>
 

Salomon Guerschengorn asked "Where can I get information about Jews of
Berdechev?"

He didn't indicate what time period, but if he, or for that matter,
anyone else is interested in learning about Berdechev, in the pre
W.W.II and during the first months of the war era, there is an
excellent book entitled "The Bones of Berdechev" which discusses the
fate of the Jews in the immediate area of this well known Ukrainian
city. The book was written by the well known writer, Vasily Grossman
and published by The Free Press, a division of Simon and Shuster.
ISBN 0-684-82295-4. I find it a bit difficult to read, as I am
normally a very fast reader, but there is so much to be absorbed in
Grossman's story. I would heartily recommend it as a book to provide
an education to the atrocities of the Nazi era, not that enough hasn't
already been printed.

Further, more Berdechev information can be found on my new web site
http://jewishwebindex.com as well as for other countries and
subjects.

Warm (it's finally under 100 here today) regards,

Ted Margulis
Palm Desert, CA
tedm333@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chester, Pennsylania #general

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

This is to announce the formation of
a new independent discussion group
concerning the Jewish community in
Chester, Pennsylvania.

If you have roots in Chester, PA and the
surrounding area (Marcus Hook, Linwood)
please send an e-mail to:

jewish.chester-subscribe@...

Hope to hear >from all of you soon!!

Paul W. Ginsburg
Bethesda, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen property tax lists? #general

George
 

I was reading the Bobrka (now Ukraine, formerly Galicia, near Lemberg)
Yizkor book. Someone had written a pretty thorough history of the town
and much of the information seemed to come >from the Landesarchiv in
Vienna. There was detailed information about the amount of taxes
collected >from the Jewish Community and how many households there were in
the community dating >from the 1500's. I was wondering whether anyone
knows whether the property tax records are detailed and whether they are
in existence. Apparently the Bobrka city hall was destroyed in WW1. Are
property tax records a good source of information?

Also there wer references to the census of 1880, 1890 and 1910. There
was also reference to details about the election, and how many votes each
candidate got. One of the winning candidates was named Abraham Beller and
was no doubt a relative of mine. I wonder where I could find more
information?

George Frankel
San Francisco


WWII database #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

THe following message could not be processed in the original format since
that was in "MIME" text format and not in Plain Text format. However, the
information contained will be very helpful to nearly everyone in the sig.
Please send all messages to H-sig in "plain text" format, and not in MIME or
HTML or any other format since it can not be processed through our
listserver host. Thank You, Louis Schonfeld

from Beth Long:
"I'm new to this list, so I don't know if this has been posted before: =
it's a list of Hungarian soldiers who died on the Eastern Front in WWII. =
I noticed that there were many, many Jewish names on the list.

When I asked a Hungarian friend about this, he said that the Jews who =
died were most likely not actually soldiers, but in forced labor =
batallions.=20

Names are listed alphabetically, and the list gives the name, place of =
origin, birthdate, and mother's name.

Caution: this takes a LONG time to load!

http://www.netlap.hu/vasarnapiujsag/hosok.htm

Beth Long
dnblong@... "


Hungary SIG #Hungary WWII database #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

THe following message could not be processed in the original format since
that was in "MIME" text format and not in Plain Text format. However, the
information contained will be very helpful to nearly everyone in the sig.
Please send all messages to H-sig in "plain text" format, and not in MIME or
HTML or any other format since it can not be processed through our
listserver host. Thank You, Louis Schonfeld

from Beth Long:
"I'm new to this list, so I don't know if this has been posted before: =
it's a list of Hungarian soldiers who died on the Eastern Front in WWII. =
I noticed that there were many, many Jewish names on the list.

When I asked a Hungarian friend about this, he said that the Jews who =
died were most likely not actually soldiers, but in forced labor =
batallions.=20

Names are listed alphabetically, and the list gives the name, place of =
origin, birthdate, and mother's name.

Caution: this takes a LONG time to load!

http://www.netlap.hu/vasarnapiujsag/hosok.htm

Beth Long
dnblong@... "