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The Struma Project #galicia

Judy Davies <Jude@...>
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

I have not seen any postings regarding The STUMA PROJECT lately on Jewish
Gen., maybe I have missed them, but I have been following this incredible
project myself only for for a short while now & although my own family were
of no geneological relation to those who perished on The Struma, the project
was so immensley moving that I wanted to bring it to your attention, if you
are not already aware of it - as it seems to me to be so poignantly
relevent to many of our family searches.

Simply; In 1942 The Struma, a rickety old cargo boat, sank with approx 789
Russian & Romanian refugees in The Bosphorous. One person David Stoliar
survived. The completely unsuitable cargo boat with a very poor engine had
left Romania packed to the absolute brim with mainly young Jewish refugees
,promised visas for Palestine within their ridiculously expensive ticket
prices. They stopped at neutral Istanbul in bitter winter 1942 to try to get
visas & repair their engine. They were refused to come ashore, even for a
short time, despite the fact that JA had offered to pay all expenses for a
displaced persons camp. The British Government of the day steadfastedly
refused them visas to Palestine as illegal entrants of an enemy country.
The Turkish government refused to allow them temporary leave to come ashore
whilst their engine was being fixed but tried to negotiate with the British
for entry to Palestine, The Turk Government feared being swamped by refugess
"that nobody else wanted". The local Jewish commmunity helped feed the
passengers during the 70 days that it remained in port whilst negotiations
went on. Four passengers were released after the efforts of an influencial
Turkish businessman suceeded.
Finally, after 70 days when negotiations went no where, Turkish police were
ordered to & cut the ropes of the boat & towed it out to in to The
Bosphorous - with no working engine, fuel or food. Two days later the boat
was mysteriously hit & sunk by a missle, with no life boats on board & no
rescue vessels out - all,the refugees , including 103 children except for
one drowned.

THE Project : After three years of research , fundraising & obtaining
relatives permission & a some finanical support >from various holocaust &
general museums, magazines & individuals, a very brave team of experienced
professional divers is preparing to dive , find & verify The Stuma wreck &
bring artifiacts, if posssible to be placed in Holocuast exhibitions &
museums worldwide. There will be a memorial service in September with
relatives & others represented in Istanbul.
The principle individual who initiated this project is Greg Buxton,a Jewish
Diver ,whose paternal grandparents perished on the boat.
He has in fact mortgaged his house to 60,000$ to raise funds for the project.
His group are all volunteers with extensive experience of such dangerous
dives,as the boat is believed to be some 200 - 300 meters deep.
There are 2 Jewish divers in the tam of 12 all are volunteers. The dive is
due to commence next week , hopefully, if the Turkish Government continues
to support them in permitting the dive to go ahead as it originally did.
please read New York Post Article for update - ).

A better description of the project lies at http;//www.struma.org & also
different perspectives relating to tragic history of the passengers on that
boat is wriiten about on the Jewish Gen Romanian Sig page,
also very good articles written 10th August New York Post "Hunt for
Torpedoed Ship Resurrects 1942 Horror" .
& The Jerusalem Post end of July -can be found in archives by typng Struma
int the search engine.

It is also possible for those who wish to do so to support the project with
messages of support & optionally financially at www.struma.org.

Yours sincerely
Judith Davies
London England - looking for Weissbach s & Kindlers fom Eastern Gallicia -
Rawa Ruska ,Sokol, ETC


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia The Struma Project #galicia

Judy Davies <Jude@...>
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

I have not seen any postings regarding The STUMA PROJECT lately on Jewish
Gen., maybe I have missed them, but I have been following this incredible
project myself only for for a short while now & although my own family were
of no geneological relation to those who perished on The Struma, the project
was so immensley moving that I wanted to bring it to your attention, if you
are not already aware of it - as it seems to me to be so poignantly
relevent to many of our family searches.

Simply; In 1942 The Struma, a rickety old cargo boat, sank with approx 789
Russian & Romanian refugees in The Bosphorous. One person David Stoliar
survived. The completely unsuitable cargo boat with a very poor engine had
left Romania packed to the absolute brim with mainly young Jewish refugees
,promised visas for Palestine within their ridiculously expensive ticket
prices. They stopped at neutral Istanbul in bitter winter 1942 to try to get
visas & repair their engine. They were refused to come ashore, even for a
short time, despite the fact that JA had offered to pay all expenses for a
displaced persons camp. The British Government of the day steadfastedly
refused them visas to Palestine as illegal entrants of an enemy country.
The Turkish government refused to allow them temporary leave to come ashore
whilst their engine was being fixed but tried to negotiate with the British
for entry to Palestine, The Turk Government feared being swamped by refugess
"that nobody else wanted". The local Jewish commmunity helped feed the
passengers during the 70 days that it remained in port whilst negotiations
went on. Four passengers were released after the efforts of an influencial
Turkish businessman suceeded.
Finally, after 70 days when negotiations went no where, Turkish police were
ordered to & cut the ropes of the boat & towed it out to in to The
Bosphorous - with no working engine, fuel or food. Two days later the boat
was mysteriously hit & sunk by a missle, with no life boats on board & no
rescue vessels out - all,the refugees , including 103 children except for
one drowned.

THE Project : After three years of research , fundraising & obtaining
relatives permission & a some finanical support >from various holocaust &
general museums, magazines & individuals, a very brave team of experienced
professional divers is preparing to dive , find & verify The Stuma wreck &
bring artifiacts, if posssible to be placed in Holocuast exhibitions &
museums worldwide. There will be a memorial service in September with
relatives & others represented in Istanbul.
The principle individual who initiated this project is Greg Buxton,a Jewish
Diver ,whose paternal grandparents perished on the boat.
He has in fact mortgaged his house to 60,000$ to raise funds for the project.
His group are all volunteers with extensive experience of such dangerous
dives,as the boat is believed to be some 200 - 300 meters deep.
There are 2 Jewish divers in the tam of 12 all are volunteers. The dive is
due to commence next week , hopefully, if the Turkish Government continues
to support them in permitting the dive to go ahead as it originally did.
please read New York Post Article for update - ).

A better description of the project lies at http;//www.struma.org & also
different perspectives relating to tragic history of the passengers on that
boat is wriiten about on the Jewish Gen Romanian Sig page,
also very good articles written 10th August New York Post "Hunt for
Torpedoed Ship Resurrects 1942 Horror" .
& The Jerusalem Post end of July -can be found in archives by typng Struma
int the search engine.

It is also possible for those who wish to do so to support the project with
messages of support & optionally financially at www.struma.org.

Yours sincerely
Judith Davies
London England - looking for Weissbach s & Kindlers fom Eastern Gallicia -
Rawa Ruska ,Sokol, ETC


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Re: Keidan as a shtetl #lithuania

BarrJess51@...
 

I had sent you an E Mail earlier this year asking you about the Imperial
Census of
1897. You kindly answered, but I don't remember one fact which is important
in my
family research.

I don't remember whether you said there were individual names in the census?
My great grandfather is on the 1874 revision list, but his family wasn't yet
completed. I also identified 17 other relatives on the 1874, so I'm very
interested in any subsequent census.

Thanks, Barry Schulman
Los Angeles


Re: Keidan as a shtetl #lithuania

BarrJess51@...
 

I had sent you an E Mail earlier this year asking you about the Imperial
Census of
1897. You kindly answered, but I don't remember one fact which is important
in my
family research.

I don't remember whether you said there were individual names in the census?
My great grandfather is on the 1874 revision list, but his family wasn't yet
completed. I also identified 17 other relatives on the 1874, so I'm very
interested in any subsequent census.

Thanks, Barry Schulman
Los Angeles


Re: Jewish Ukrainian agricultural colonies #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

To anyone with interest in the Jewish settlements in Ukraine.

Thank you, Mel, for your postings on the "Jewish Ukrainian
agricultural colonies". I read them with great interest, and
you are right that it is a little known subchapter of the
Jewish history.

However, I would like to call your attention to the fact that
recently we have established the "Ekaterinoslav Research Group"
with a discussion group.

Joining this group is simple and can be done via e-mail or
online.

To use the online automated webform, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm
and click on the word "Subscribe".
You will be taken to the webform where you will follow the
directions to fill out completely, then select Ekaterinoslav
which you will find listed under the Shtetl Research Groups.
Scroll down and click on the button that says Submit my Request.

To subscribe via e-mail simply send a message addressed to:
mailto:listserv@...
and just write in the body of the e-mail (no signature!):
subscribe ekaterinoslav (first name) (last name)

With either method, online or e-mail you will receive a request
to confirm the subscription. Just click on the reply button and
the message with the proper confirmation number will be returned
to us. You'll know you've done it all correctly when you receive
the Welcome Document >from the Ekaterinoslav Group which will
contain information about the address to be used when you post
messages to the entire list as well as the importance of setting
your e-mail program to send messages to us in plain text only.

If you need any help with any of this, please send an e-mail to:
mailto:support@...

Furthermore (because so many settlers in the area came >from
Belarus) the Belarus SIG hosts the Ekaterinoslav Research Group,
i.e. articles on the topic is - until a formal SIG is established
- being published in the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter.

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

So far there are three articles on Ekaterinoslav which you can
find on the Newsletter index going to the menu-item: "places
outside Belarus" and going down to Ukraine.

Likewise any databases can put on the Belarus SIG website.

Let me underscore that the name of the group is a bit misleading,
as it does not only focus on Ekaterinoslav. However, the group
was started by some Ekaterinoslav-researchers at the conference
in New York -- hence the name. We have since found it relevant
and necessary to encompass the other settlements as well.

I (as editor of the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter) would therefore
kindly ask you permission to publish your "Jewish Ukrainian
agricultural colonies, part 1 of 3" in the Belarus SIG Online
Newsletter.

At 20:31 10-08-00 GMT, you wrote:
...snip...
I traveled to six of these colonies in
August 1999 and returned with interviews of the remaining Jewish
inhabitants and photographs and videos of cemeteries and synagogues.
I - and the other members of the group - would also be grateful
if you would send in an article for the Newsletter about your journey,
experiences and the interviews (all, of course, as far as you can for
privacy and copyright reasons!).

Hoping to hear >from you I send you
my best regards

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Editor of the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm
Moderator of the Belarus and Ekaterinoslav Discussion Groups

mailto:elsebeth@...


New York City Immigrants (Austria,Galacia,Poland), 1890 (database online) #general

Rlberliner@...
 

Another piece of information >from Ancestry.com newsletter, printed with
permission.

Dr. Howard M. Relles compiled this database >from the National Archives
microfilms of the record books in which the ships' passenger lists were
recorded. This database contains the names of 44,000 persons who arrived in
New
York City >from Austria, Galacia, and Poland during 1890.

Source Information: Relles, Howard M., comp. "New York City Immigrants
(Austria,
Galacia, Poland), 1890." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-.

Original data: United States Government. "1890 New York Ship's Arrivals
Records
Index" (Rolls #543-#560, Jan. 2, 1890 to Dec. 30, 1890). Washington, D.C.:
National Archives.

To search this database, go to:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4844.htm

I hope this offers search results for many of us.
Rachelle Berliner
Savannah GA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Ukrainian agricultural colonies #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

To anyone with interest in the Jewish settlements in Ukraine.

Thank you, Mel, for your postings on the "Jewish Ukrainian
agricultural colonies". I read them with great interest, and
you are right that it is a little known subchapter of the
Jewish history.

However, I would like to call your attention to the fact that
recently we have established the "Ekaterinoslav Research Group"
with a discussion group.

Joining this group is simple and can be done via e-mail or
online.

To use the online automated webform, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm
and click on the word "Subscribe".
You will be taken to the webform where you will follow the
directions to fill out completely, then select Ekaterinoslav
which you will find listed under the Shtetl Research Groups.
Scroll down and click on the button that says Submit my Request.

To subscribe via e-mail simply send a message addressed to:
mailto:listserv@...
and just write in the body of the e-mail (no signature!):
subscribe ekaterinoslav (first name) (last name)

With either method, online or e-mail you will receive a request
to confirm the subscription. Just click on the reply button and
the message with the proper confirmation number will be returned
to us. You'll know you've done it all correctly when you receive
the Welcome Document >from the Ekaterinoslav Group which will
contain information about the address to be used when you post
messages to the entire list as well as the importance of setting
your e-mail program to send messages to us in plain text only.

If you need any help with any of this, please send an e-mail to:
mailto:support@...

Furthermore (because so many settlers in the area came >from
Belarus) the Belarus SIG hosts the Ekaterinoslav Research Group,
i.e. articles on the topic is - until a formal SIG is established
- being published in the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter.

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

So far there are three articles on Ekaterinoslav which you can
find on the Newsletter index going to the menu-item: "places
outside Belarus" and going down to Ukraine.

Likewise any databases can put on the Belarus SIG website.

Let me underscore that the name of the group is a bit misleading,
as it does not only focus on Ekaterinoslav. However, the group
was started by some Ekaterinoslav-researchers at the conference
in New York -- hence the name. We have since found it relevant
and necessary to encompass the other settlements as well.

I (as editor of the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter) would therefore
kindly ask you permission to publish your "Jewish Ukrainian
agricultural colonies, part 1 of 3" in the Belarus SIG Online
Newsletter.

At 20:31 10-08-00 GMT, you wrote:
...snip...
I traveled to six of these colonies in
August 1999 and returned with interviews of the remaining Jewish
inhabitants and photographs and videos of cemeteries and synagogues.
I - and the other members of the group - would also be grateful
if you would send in an article for the Newsletter about your journey,
experiences and the interviews (all, of course, as far as you can for
privacy and copyright reasons!).

Hoping to hear >from you I send you
my best regards

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Editor of the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm
Moderator of the Belarus and Ekaterinoslav Discussion Groups

mailto:elsebeth@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Immigrants (Austria,Galacia,Poland), 1890 (database online) #general

Rlberliner@...
 

Another piece of information >from Ancestry.com newsletter, printed with
permission.

Dr. Howard M. Relles compiled this database >from the National Archives
microfilms of the record books in which the ships' passenger lists were
recorded. This database contains the names of 44,000 persons who arrived in
New
York City >from Austria, Galacia, and Poland during 1890.

Source Information: Relles, Howard M., comp. "New York City Immigrants
(Austria,
Galacia, Poland), 1890." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-.

Original data: United States Government. "1890 New York Ship's Arrivals
Records
Index" (Rolls #543-#560, Jan. 2, 1890 to Dec. 30, 1890). Washington, D.C.:
National Archives.

To search this database, go to:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4844.htm

I hope this offers search results for many of us.
Rachelle Berliner
Savannah GA


Ukrainian agricultural colonies, part 3 of 3 parts #general

Mel Comisarow <melcom@...>
 

Ukrainian agricultural colonies, part 3 of 3 parts

This is part 3 of a 3-part posting on Jewish Ukrainian agricultural
colonies. I would like to exchange information with others who have an
interest in these colonies and colonists. I have at least snippets of
information about the following non-Jewish colonies and towns [location]
and the associated Jewish FAMILY NAMES about which I also have knowledge
of contemporary descendants. In the case of ****FAMILY NAMES****
delimited by asterisks, I have knowledge of the town of residence but no
knowledge of descendants.

Parts 1 and 2 contain FAMILY NAMES resident in Jewish colonies. This
part contains Jewish FAMILY NAMES resident in nearby German colonies and
Ukrainian towns.

Marienfeld/Marinpol, German Colony No. 26 [N 47o 30', E 36o 50']
(A German agricultural colony near Grafskoy, where Jews of the region
took refuge during pogroms in 1881, 1905 and 1918)
BRUSER

Gottland/Marionovka, German Colony No. 13, [N 47o 25', E 36o 52']
MOLOTSKY

Ludvigstahl/Karla Leibknekta, German Colony No. 18 [N 47o 32', E 36o
57'] ****OVERSTEIN, SACKS****

Grunau/Luxemburg, German Colony No. 6 [N 47o 24', E 37o 4']
****BUNKUSE, MIROPOLSKY, MORKIN****

Gaichul/Hichur/Novoukrainka [N 47o 26', E 36o 40']
STEIN
****YALLOW***

Dibrovka/Velikomikhaylovka. [N47š58¹ E36š 27¹]
VOLOKHOV/WOLOCHOW

Rozovka [N 47o 23' E 37o 4'] (a railway town that also had a flour mill)
GOLDBERG, GOLDMAN, GOLUS/HALLIS

Mariupol [N 47o 7', E 37o 35'] (A port city on the Sea of Azov)
AMITON, KOGONOW, KOMESAROFF/KOMISARUK, USHKATZ/USHER, ZMOOD

Andreyevka [N 47o 6', E 36o 36']
GOLOSOFF, KOMESAROFF/KOMISARUK, ZMOOD

Berdyansk [N 46o 45', E 36o 48']
GOLOSOFF, SEGALNITSKY/SEGAL, MOLOTSKY

Yuzovka/Donetsk/Stalino [N 47o 58', E 37o 57']
GOLOSOFF

Gulaipole [N 47o 40', E 36o 15'] A market town and county seat
AMITON, KAGAN LIFSHITS

Blagoveshenka, [N 47o 17', E36o 47']
WINNIKOVSKY/WEINKLE

Tokmak [N 47o 16', E 35o 42']
ZABRODSKY/BRODY, KOMISARUK, SHLAKTER

Reichenfeld/Raykhenfeld/Shirokoye (A German colony) [N 47o 10', E 35o
19']
NAIMAN

Mel Comisarow
melcom@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ukrainian agricultural colonies, part 3 of 3 parts #general

Mel Comisarow <melcom@...>
 

Ukrainian agricultural colonies, part 3 of 3 parts

This is part 3 of a 3-part posting on Jewish Ukrainian agricultural
colonies. I would like to exchange information with others who have an
interest in these colonies and colonists. I have at least snippets of
information about the following non-Jewish colonies and towns [location]
and the associated Jewish FAMILY NAMES about which I also have knowledge
of contemporary descendants. In the case of ****FAMILY NAMES****
delimited by asterisks, I have knowledge of the town of residence but no
knowledge of descendants.

Parts 1 and 2 contain FAMILY NAMES resident in Jewish colonies. This
part contains Jewish FAMILY NAMES resident in nearby German colonies and
Ukrainian towns.

Marienfeld/Marinpol, German Colony No. 26 [N 47o 30', E 36o 50']
(A German agricultural colony near Grafskoy, where Jews of the region
took refuge during pogroms in 1881, 1905 and 1918)
BRUSER

Gottland/Marionovka, German Colony No. 13, [N 47o 25', E 36o 52']
MOLOTSKY

Ludvigstahl/Karla Leibknekta, German Colony No. 18 [N 47o 32', E 36o
57'] ****OVERSTEIN, SACKS****

Grunau/Luxemburg, German Colony No. 6 [N 47o 24', E 37o 4']
****BUNKUSE, MIROPOLSKY, MORKIN****

Gaichul/Hichur/Novoukrainka [N 47o 26', E 36o 40']
STEIN
****YALLOW***

Dibrovka/Velikomikhaylovka. [N47š58¹ E36š 27¹]
VOLOKHOV/WOLOCHOW

Rozovka [N 47o 23' E 37o 4'] (a railway town that also had a flour mill)
GOLDBERG, GOLDMAN, GOLUS/HALLIS

Mariupol [N 47o 7', E 37o 35'] (A port city on the Sea of Azov)
AMITON, KOGONOW, KOMESAROFF/KOMISARUK, USHKATZ/USHER, ZMOOD

Andreyevka [N 47o 6', E 36o 36']
GOLOSOFF, KOMESAROFF/KOMISARUK, ZMOOD

Berdyansk [N 46o 45', E 36o 48']
GOLOSOFF, SEGALNITSKY/SEGAL, MOLOTSKY

Yuzovka/Donetsk/Stalino [N 47o 58', E 37o 57']
GOLOSOFF

Gulaipole [N 47o 40', E 36o 15'] A market town and county seat
AMITON, KAGAN LIFSHITS

Blagoveshenka, [N 47o 17', E36o 47']
WINNIKOVSKY/WEINKLE

Tokmak [N 47o 16', E 35o 42']
ZABRODSKY/BRODY, KOMISARUK, SHLAKTER

Reichenfeld/Raykhenfeld/Shirokoye (A German colony) [N 47o 10', E 35o
19']
NAIMAN

Mel Comisarow
melcom@...


Family tree questions #general

Shira Honig <shonig@...>
 

Hi Genners,

I'm making an accompanying log for my family tree that lists all my
family's names in aphabetical order, and I'm wondering how you would
list a woman's name when she's been married more than once. I'm
guessing I would list her under her current surname and then key in both
her previous surnames, so it would look like this:

Brown, Sally (nee Smith, nee Jones) (1950 - ).

Is this a good guess?

TIA,

Shira Honig


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family tree questions #general

Shira Honig <shonig@...>
 

Hi Genners,

I'm making an accompanying log for my family tree that lists all my
family's names in aphabetical order, and I'm wondering how you would
list a woman's name when she's been married more than once. I'm
guessing I would list her under her current surname and then key in both
her previous surnames, so it would look like this:

Brown, Sally (nee Smith, nee Jones) (1950 - ).

Is this a good guess?

TIA,

Shira Honig


Re: Polish equivalent of Smith #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Abe,

Actually, equivalent of "blacksmith" in Polish is Kowalski, an extremly
popular Polish surname.

Other blacksmith alternatives: Kowal, Kowalik,Kowalczuk, Kowalczyk, and east
Polish/Russian border variations: Kuzniets, Kuzniecow, and so on.
Tinsmith: Blacharz, Blacharczyk
Silversmith: Srebnik, Srebrenik (Silberstein, Silwer, Silver)

They could also have adopted name of village of their origin: Kowalowice,
Kowalo'w, Kowalik, Kowalin.

One can go on wth the smith variations and speculations as >from what and/or
from where original name could be tranaslated or adopted. Possibilities and
alternatives are virtually limitless.

Hope that this will not bring more confusion.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB, Canada
mailto: a.sharon@...
AviDov@...> wrote in message news:20.a211bae.26ca3825@......
A branch of our my mother's family,originally >from Poland,was given the
name
Smith
or perhaps opted for it at Ellis Island.
They know it was very difficult to pronounce
but have no idea how it sounded..
One theory is that it may have meant " tinsmith" or "metal worker" in
Polish .
Could that have been " ZIELAZO " or something close to that ?
Another chance is that it actually sounded like SMITH,in which case,what
are
some of the Polish words or names to fit that possibility ?

They know that siblings of the senior David Smith who went to Canada did
not
use
the Smith name,but they lost contact over 75 years ago.

Not much to go on,but always worth an honest try. Abe Nutkis
mailto:Avidov@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish equivalent of Smith #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Abe,

Actually, equivalent of "blacksmith" in Polish is Kowalski, an extremly
popular Polish surname.

Other blacksmith alternatives: Kowal, Kowalik,Kowalczuk, Kowalczyk, and east
Polish/Russian border variations: Kuzniets, Kuzniecow, and so on.
Tinsmith: Blacharz, Blacharczyk
Silversmith: Srebnik, Srebrenik (Silberstein, Silwer, Silver)

They could also have adopted name of village of their origin: Kowalowice,
Kowalo'w, Kowalik, Kowalin.

One can go on wth the smith variations and speculations as >from what and/or
from where original name could be tranaslated or adopted. Possibilities and
alternatives are virtually limitless.

Hope that this will not bring more confusion.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB, Canada
mailto: a.sharon@...
AviDov@...> wrote in message news:20.a211bae.26ca3825@......
A branch of our my mother's family,originally >from Poland,was given the
name
Smith
or perhaps opted for it at Ellis Island.
They know it was very difficult to pronounce
but have no idea how it sounded..
One theory is that it may have meant " tinsmith" or "metal worker" in
Polish .
Could that have been " ZIELAZO " or something close to that ?
Another chance is that it actually sounded like SMITH,in which case,what
are
some of the Polish words or names to fit that possibility ?

They know that siblings of the senior David Smith who went to Canada did
not
use
the Smith name,but they lost contact over 75 years ago.

Not much to go on,but always worth an honest try. Abe Nutkis
mailto:Avidov@...


New York City Immigrants & Research Fees #general

The Kendrick's <kendrickkreation@...>
 

Hi!

My message will cover two items . . .

First, for those of you interested (I have no financial interest in the company)
keep an eye on the Ancestry website in the near future. It appears that upcoming
databases will include;
New York City Immigrants (Austria, Galacia, Poland), 1890.
http://www.ancestry.com

The last item I have is a question that I would respectively request that you
respond to privately. For any of you who have hired someone within the U.S. to do
genealogy research could you please tell me how much you might have paid an hour?
I am trying to come up with a "fair market" average and your responses would be
most appreciated. Again, please reply in private.

Thank you all for your time.

Nancy Ring-Kendrick
Daytona Beach, FL
mailto:kendrickkreation@...


MODERATOR NOTE: The above database was developed by Dr. Howard Relles.
It can be found on JewishGen at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/1890ny.htm The search capabilities
include tables of ships, given names, Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex, and the
Nara Soundex are just a few of its features.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Immigrants & Research Fees #general

The Kendrick's <kendrickkreation@...>
 

Hi!

My message will cover two items . . .

First, for those of you interested (I have no financial interest in the company)
keep an eye on the Ancestry website in the near future. It appears that upcoming
databases will include;
New York City Immigrants (Austria, Galacia, Poland), 1890.
http://www.ancestry.com

The last item I have is a question that I would respectively request that you
respond to privately. For any of you who have hired someone within the U.S. to do
genealogy research could you please tell me how much you might have paid an hour?
I am trying to come up with a "fair market" average and your responses would be
most appreciated. Again, please reply in private.

Thank you all for your time.

Nancy Ring-Kendrick
Daytona Beach, FL
mailto:kendrickkreation@...


MODERATOR NOTE: The above database was developed by Dr. Howard Relles.
It can be found on JewishGen at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/1890ny.htm The search capabilities
include tables of ships, given names, Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex, and the
Nara Soundex are just a few of its features.


Re: Mogilev Birth Index #belarus

Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@...>
 

Carol,

How about getting reciprocal "look ups" if you know someone in the
States who needs material >from Israel. Just an idea.

Phyllis Cole, NJ, USA

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Carol Edan wrote:

This may be true for those 'near' centers. But what of those that have
no center at all, for example in Israel. I have at least 10 records
to research that are on Hold.


Re: How to be a researcher #general

Morton and Esther Cohen <cohenme@...>
 

I don't recall the original post but it could be when one enters their
data in the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder and obtains a "researcher
number"

On 12 Aug 2000 15:22:05 -0700, sallybru@... (Sally Bruckheimer)
wrote:
One becomes a researcher by doing research. Check out your relatives to
find out what they know and what is in their attics, read genealogy
books-how to books, go to your local Mormon Library to see what they have
(don't forget to ask about family group sheets and pedigree charts if you
want hand written records), go to the cemetery where your family is buried,
go to city and county hall and get records for your family, get on the
internet and read Jewishgen and other genealogy sites (Jewishgen will tell
you if there is a Jewish genealogical society near you), try different
computer programs for recording information,...and that is off the top of
my head.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Mogilev Birth Index #belarus

Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@...>
 

Carol,

How about getting reciprocal "look ups" if you know someone in the
States who needs material >from Israel. Just an idea.

Phyllis Cole, NJ, USA

-------------------
Carol Edan wrote:

This may be true for those 'near' centers. But what of those that have
no center at all, for example in Israel. I have at least 10 records
to research that are on Hold.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to be a researcher #general

Morton and Esther Cohen <cohenme@...>
 

I don't recall the original post but it could be when one enters their
data in the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder and obtains a "researcher
number"

On 12 Aug 2000 15:22:05 -0700, sallybru@... (Sally Bruckheimer)
wrote:
One becomes a researcher by doing research. Check out your relatives to
find out what they know and what is in their attics, read genealogy
books-how to books, go to your local Mormon Library to see what they have
(don't forget to ask about family group sheets and pedigree charts if you
want hand written records), go to the cemetery where your family is buried,
go to city and county hall and get records for your family, get on the
internet and read Jewishgen and other genealogy sites (Jewishgen will tell
you if there is a Jewish genealogical society near you), try different
computer programs for recording information,...and that is off the top of
my head.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY