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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lithuanian Safari #lithuania

DrWASaxton@...
 

Fellow LitvakSIGers:

I have just returned >from a family trip to Lithuania - Vilnius, Kaunas and
the shtetls of Abel (Obeliai) and Rakishok (Rokiskis). The expedition was
organized by Joanna Fletcher of JewishGen; led by Regina Kopilevich; and,
assisted by Rabbi Ed Cohen of West Hartford, Connecticut, USA.

Merely saying that the trip was FANTASTIC would be an understatement. While
this is not the place to chronicle our unbelievable experience, I do feel
that it is the appropriate medium for paying well-deserved tributes to the
dedicated people that put it all together and made it so successful.

Joanna is a gem - patient, conscientious, a stickler for detail, and an
outstanding planner. Regina is as good as they come as a tour guide - but,
even more than that, she is caring, creative, resourceful and very bright.
Oh, and by the way, she also happens to be unbelievably knowledgeable about
almost anything having to do with Lithuania. Everyone just loved her! As for "Rabbi Ed," his command of Lithuanian Jewish history and religious insights, as well as his experience in genealogy, provided invaluable dimensions time after time.

I could go on and on with superlatives to describe these people, but even at that I know I would leave out some that apply. Suffice to say that we Litvaks are extremely fortunate to have such extraordinarily talented and committed people available as resources to us.

Dr. William A. (Bill) Saxton
Boca Raton, Florida


Lithuanian Safari #lithuania

DrWASaxton@...
 

Fellow LitvakSIGers:

I have just returned >from a family trip to Lithuania - Vilnius, Kaunas and
the shtetls of Abel (Obeliai) and Rakishok (Rokiskis). The expedition was
organized by Joanna Fletcher of JewishGen; led by Regina Kopilevich; and,
assisted by Rabbi Ed Cohen of West Hartford, Connecticut, USA.

Merely saying that the trip was FANTASTIC would be an understatement. While
this is not the place to chronicle our unbelievable experience, I do feel
that it is the appropriate medium for paying well-deserved tributes to the
dedicated people that put it all together and made it so successful.

Joanna is a gem - patient, conscientious, a stickler for detail, and an
outstanding planner. Regina is as good as they come as a tour guide - but,
even more than that, she is caring, creative, resourceful and very bright.
Oh, and by the way, she also happens to be unbelievably knowledgeable about
almost anything having to do with Lithuania. Everyone just loved her! As for "Rabbi Ed," his command of Lithuanian Jewish history and religious insights, as well as his experience in genealogy, provided invaluable dimensions time after time.

I could go on and on with superlatives to describe these people, but even at that I know I would leave out some that apply. Suffice to say that we Litvaks are extremely fortunate to have such extraordinarily talented and committed people available as resources to us.

Dr. William A. (Bill) Saxton
Boca Raton, Florida


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania The Thorny Path of Jewish Immigration to South Africa-online #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

A translation of the article "The Thorny Path of Jewish Immigration to South Africa" by the South African Yiddishist historian J. M. Sherman can be read online as part of the Rakishok (Rokiskis, Lithuania) Yizkor Book web page.

This book was published in 1952 in Johannesburg. It can be read at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/rokiskis/rok530.html

Steven Weiss
Chicago


The Thorny Path of Jewish Immigration to South Africa-online #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

A translation of the article "The Thorny Path of Jewish Immigration to South Africa" by the South African Yiddishist historian J. M. Sherman can be read online as part of the Rakishok (Rokiskis, Lithuania) Yizkor Book web page.

This book was published in 1952 in Johannesburg. It can be read at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/rokiskis/rok530.html

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania revision lists (Kaplan in Ariogala) #lithuania

Harvey Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

For the first time I have found family in Lithuanian records. In the All
Lithuania Database, I have found my Kaplan ancestors in Ariogala in 1874 -
after years of searching for them in nearby Keidan!

I have 2 questions:

1 what is the significance of the registration number? - 3 Kaplan
families share number 150 - does this mean that they lived in the same
house/were related?

2 If my family were in the Ariogala revision list, does this mean that
they most likely lived there at the time, or were they just registered as
citizens there? Might they have actually lived in Keidan, as they stated
when they were in Scotland?

thanks for any responses

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow, Scotland


revision lists (Kaplan in Ariogala) #lithuania

Harvey Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

For the first time I have found family in Lithuanian records. In the All
Lithuania Database, I have found my Kaplan ancestors in Ariogala in 1874 -
after years of searching for them in nearby Keidan!

I have 2 questions:

1 what is the significance of the registration number? - 3 Kaplan
families share number 150 - does this mean that they lived in the same
house/were related?

2 If my family were in the Ariogala revision list, does this mean that
they most likely lived there at the time, or were they just registered as
citizens there? Might they have actually lived in Keidan, as they stated
when they were in Scotland?

thanks for any responses

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow, Scotland


immigration to south-america #general

borray <borrasart@...>
 

In 1609 my familyname changed >from BORRAY (hebrew) to BORRA.
I found the documents that proved that.
It was caused by the fear for the inquisition.
Now I am searching for namelists on the net about
immigration in 1500/1600 >from spain/portugal to
south-america because the original name BORRA exist there.

thanks a lot,
pieter borra, holland


Attention: BLATT researchers #general

NFatouros@...
 

Last night I sent an email to all the people interested in the BLATT
surname whose email addresses I found in Jewishgen's Family Finder and
Discussion Group Archives. There were quite a few of them, so I didn't
have the patience to make sure that all the email addresses were
current. Alas, the Mailer-Daemon and various postmasters couldn't
locate many of them.

My message concerned a Holocaust document which had been sent by on behalf
of an Ada Blatt, Theresiendstadt inmate to a Franzi Low of Vienna. It is
being offered for sale by a certain dealer in whom I have no interest
except as a satisfied customer.


If any BLATT genealogists are interested in this document, they should
write to me for particulars:

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@...
7-31-00


LDS films of Bayonne-France area of baptisms #general

r. van wijngaarden <r.van.wijngaarden@...>
 

Dear readers,

My ancestor Jacob SALOM DEL VALLE arrived in Amsterdam towards the end
of the 17th century. Jacob came from, (born in ?) Peyrhehorade-France
and must have seen the light of this world for the first time in ca.
1668. His parents were Yshac SALOM DEL VALLE and Ribca.


It came to my understanding, >from a genealogy by Rudie
Cortissos-Netherlands, that Jews had their children baptised in the
beginning of the 17th century for example in "Saint Etienne Arribe
Labourd", a quarter of Bayonne.

As my research came to a halt and I would like to boost it again, I
therefore would like to research LDS films of baptsims in the
Bayonne-St -Esprit -Peyrhehorade-St.Jean de Luz area in Southern France.

A kind suggestion to visit a LDS center in my neigbourhood does not
apply in my case because its quite remote >from my coordinates but this
would certainly be the next step to take if this attempt proves to be idle.


My questions are:

1. Is there a kind of masterindex which shows me all LDS films and
filmnumbers in general and/or of this area in particular that can be seen
via the Internet

2. Did anyone of you already research this area of France and these LDS
film and can make any suggestions.

3. Did anyone of you folow these lines of research re: baptism of Jews in
France and is willing to share his/her experiences


Thanks in advance for your willingness to share any information with me,

Regards

Rene F.van Wijngaarden
Netherlands
E-mail : r.van.wijngaarden@...
Familytree at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Creek/6534
Searching for: Del Valle/Delvalle/Van Daelen/Salom del Valle/Delvalle
Saldana/Dovalle/Dovalhe/Delvaille


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen immigration to south-america #general

borray <borrasart@...>
 

In 1609 my familyname changed >from BORRAY (hebrew) to BORRA.
I found the documents that proved that.
It was caused by the fear for the inquisition.
Now I am searching for namelists on the net about
immigration in 1500/1600 >from spain/portugal to
south-america because the original name BORRA exist there.

thanks a lot,
pieter borra, holland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LDS films of Bayonne-France area of baptisms #general

r. van wijngaarden <r.van.wijngaarden@...>
 

Dear readers,

My ancestor Jacob SALOM DEL VALLE arrived in Amsterdam towards the end
of the 17th century. Jacob came from, (born in ?) Peyrhehorade-France
and must have seen the light of this world for the first time in ca.
1668. His parents were Yshac SALOM DEL VALLE and Ribca.


It came to my understanding, >from a genealogy by Rudie
Cortissos-Netherlands, that Jews had their children baptised in the
beginning of the 17th century for example in "Saint Etienne Arribe
Labourd", a quarter of Bayonne.

As my research came to a halt and I would like to boost it again, I
therefore would like to research LDS films of baptsims in the
Bayonne-St -Esprit -Peyrhehorade-St.Jean de Luz area in Southern France.

A kind suggestion to visit a LDS center in my neigbourhood does not
apply in my case because its quite remote >from my coordinates but this
would certainly be the next step to take if this attempt proves to be idle.


My questions are:

1. Is there a kind of masterindex which shows me all LDS films and
filmnumbers in general and/or of this area in particular that can be seen
via the Internet

2. Did anyone of you already research this area of France and these LDS
film and can make any suggestions.

3. Did anyone of you folow these lines of research re: baptism of Jews in
France and is willing to share his/her experiences


Thanks in advance for your willingness to share any information with me,

Regards

Rene F.van Wijngaarden
Netherlands
E-mail : r.van.wijngaarden@...
Familytree at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Creek/6534
Searching for: Del Valle/Delvalle/Van Daelen/Salom del Valle/Delvalle
Saldana/Dovalle/Dovalhe/Delvaille


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Attention: BLATT researchers #general

NFatouros@...
 

Last night I sent an email to all the people interested in the BLATT
surname whose email addresses I found in Jewishgen's Family Finder and
Discussion Group Archives. There were quite a few of them, so I didn't
have the patience to make sure that all the email addresses were
current. Alas, the Mailer-Daemon and various postmasters couldn't
locate many of them.

My message concerned a Holocaust document which had been sent by on behalf
of an Ada Blatt, Theresiendstadt inmate to a Franzi Low of Vienna. It is
being offered for sale by a certain dealer in whom I have no interest
except as a satisfied customer.


If any BLATT genealogists are interested in this document, they should
write to me for particulars:

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@...
7-31-00


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Ludwig Satz? #yiddish

hopo@...
 

Dear Gentlepeople,

I've just received a copy of my great-grandmother's will - that is, the
actress Sally Adler Schorr's - and I'm trying to follow up leads I've
found in it. One of the beneficiaries is her "dear friend Mrs Lillie
Satz". I'm speculating that this could have been the wife of the
comedian Ludwig Satz, and have found some nice biographical
information on him at http://www.yap.cat.nyu.edu/Hires/main.htm -
but of course it doesn't mention whether he was ever married to a
Lillie or Lillian. Do any of you good and wise Gentlepeople happen
to know more about Ludwig Satz's marital career?

Stay safe and warm,

Sherill

Moderator's Note: To improve the chances of a response, please remember
to make surnames Upper Case. Also, adding a general location to your
signature, such as country and state/province/etc., could be of assistance.


Ludwig Satz? #yiddish

hopo@...
 

Dear Gentlepeople,

I've just received a copy of my great-grandmother's will - that is, the
actress Sally Adler Schorr's - and I'm trying to follow up leads I've
found in it. One of the beneficiaries is her "dear friend Mrs Lillie
Satz". I'm speculating that this could have been the wife of the
comedian Ludwig Satz, and have found some nice biographical
information on him at http://www.yap.cat.nyu.edu/Hires/main.htm -
but of course it doesn't mention whether he was ever married to a
Lillie or Lillian. Do any of you good and wise Gentlepeople happen
to know more about Ludwig Satz's marital career?

Stay safe and warm,

Sherill

Moderator's Note: To improve the chances of a response, please remember
to make surnames Upper Case. Also, adding a general location to your
signature, such as country and state/province/etc., could be of assistance.


SCHORR Et Al #general

hopo@...
 

Dear Gentlepeople,

While searching for documentation of my grandfather, Harry Schorr
MD (1905 - 1937, son of Sally Adler Schorr 1887 - 1965 and
Moshe/Morris Schorr 1872 - 1949), I accidently got ahold of copies
of documents for some other Harry Schor[r]s. If they seem to
belong to your roots, please let me know, because I'd be happy to
pass them along to a good home:

1) a birth certificate for Harry Schor, son of Jake and Rosie, born in
Manhattan in 1905

2) a 1930 Queens marriage certificate for Harry Schorr (son of
Hyman and Matilda, born in Austria) and Bella Rozenzwieg
(daughter of Nathan and Becky, born in the US)

3) a 1928 Brooklyn marriage certificate for Harry Edwin Schorr (son
of Albert and Catharine, born in Brooklyn) and Ethel Victoria Roth
(daughter of Albert and Anna, born in Brooklyn). This was this
Harry's second marriage.

4) An obituary notice >from the 11/10/64 Times (presumably the NY
Times) for Harry Schorr, husband of Rose, father of Leon and
Sheldon, brother of Irving, Rose and Frieda, grandfather of Paul,
Perry and Rochelle.

Stay safe and warm,

Sherill

looking for NYC-area Henry, Samuel, Harry & Monroe ADLER;
Ruth APPLEBAUM; Ruth BLOOM; Lillie/Lillian SATZ; Celia
SCHORR; Harry SCHORR MD; and the actors Sally &
Morris/Moshe SCHORR


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SCHORR Et Al #general

hopo@...
 

Dear Gentlepeople,

While searching for documentation of my grandfather, Harry Schorr
MD (1905 - 1937, son of Sally Adler Schorr 1887 - 1965 and
Moshe/Morris Schorr 1872 - 1949), I accidently got ahold of copies
of documents for some other Harry Schor[r]s. If they seem to
belong to your roots, please let me know, because I'd be happy to
pass them along to a good home:

1) a birth certificate for Harry Schor, son of Jake and Rosie, born in
Manhattan in 1905

2) a 1930 Queens marriage certificate for Harry Schorr (son of
Hyman and Matilda, born in Austria) and Bella Rozenzwieg
(daughter of Nathan and Becky, born in the US)

3) a 1928 Brooklyn marriage certificate for Harry Edwin Schorr (son
of Albert and Catharine, born in Brooklyn) and Ethel Victoria Roth
(daughter of Albert and Anna, born in Brooklyn). This was this
Harry's second marriage.

4) An obituary notice >from the 11/10/64 Times (presumably the NY
Times) for Harry Schorr, husband of Rose, father of Leon and
Sheldon, brother of Irving, Rose and Frieda, grandfather of Paul,
Perry and Rochelle.

Stay safe and warm,

Sherill

looking for NYC-area Henry, Samuel, Harry & Monroe ADLER;
Ruth APPLEBAUM; Ruth BLOOM; Lillie/Lillian SATZ; Celia
SCHORR; Harry SCHORR MD; and the actors Sally &
Morris/Moshe SCHORR


Need Translation - Ukrainian Holocaust Records #general

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

Hello Genners:

I recently found a website which appears to contain
Holocaust records for the cities of Berditchev, Kiev,
Slavuta, Shepetovka, Sudilkov, and Vizhnitz

The website can be found at:
http://www.jur.uva.nl/junsv/II-3-V/II-3-5KH8.html

The following index listing is taken >from that site. Could
someone please translate this for me? Thank you
in advance for your help.

--snip--

Paul W. Ginsburg
Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft
Bethesda, Maryland=20

Visit the Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft website:
http://www.sudilkov.com

To subscribe to the Sudilkov discussion list, send an e-mail to:
sudilkov-subscribe@...

Home E-mail: g521@...

MODERATOR NOTE: The German-language material to be translated has
been deleted in accordance with JewishGen's policy of not posting
extended material in languages other than English, and also to avoid
possible copyright infringement. Please contact Paul Ginsburg at
GinsburgP@... for further information.


Re: SPANIER #general

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

To anyone who knows German, it seems rather obvious that the surname
SPANIER probably means 'someone >from Spain'. In juedische
Familienforschung, however, a view was put forth that the name refers to a
dealer of a type of laced vest that was called a Spanier = Spanish.

Why? Well, take my earliest documented SPANIER ancestor, Moses. He died
1596/97. The expulsions >from Spain & Portugal had taken place only about
100 years before. Yet he & his family were firmly associated with teh
Ashkenazic Community in his area, not the Sephardic. His son Nathan had
business in Hamburg. In Hamburg, the Sephardic Jews had a much stronger
commercial relationship with the Christian rulers of the area than did the
Ashkenazic Jews. Nathan Spanier's grandfather might have had memories of
the expulsion era. That's awfully soon to lose all memory of Sephardic
traditions.

This family's earliest documents take them back to Stadthagen. There's a
SPANIER family that stayed in Stadthagen, right to the Holocaust. No
documented relationship between their family & mine could be established,
even before the Holocaust. There's also a very old SPANIER family in
Bielefeld that is felt by some to derive >from the Stadthagen Spaniers, and
a younger family in, I think, Paderborn, that can't be connected to any
other.

About 4 or 5 years ago I did a search on an on-line German phone directory
for SPANIER and got hundreds of hits. This is far too many for SPANIER to
have been an exclusively Jewish surname [of which there are actually very
few in Germany. That's what made it 'necessary' for the Nazis to tag
Jews with the middle names Israel for men & Sarah for women].

The name occurs more recently in Vienna, and there's of course Florence
Marmor's grandfather in Kolomeya.

As is so often the case, one can't conclude much >from a surname alone.
One is going to have to trace one's own family back.

Is there anyone out there surnamed SPANIER who can trace his/her ancestry
back to Nathan SPANIER? [PS - yes, he's the one in Gluekel of Hameln's
memoirs].

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


New immigrant information #general

S&E Shamroth <shamroth@...>
 

Dear Jenners,

I just spent a fruitful couple of hours at my local LDS library going
through ship manifests. I think I found my ggrandfather listed as a
passenger on the "Rugia" inbound to New York >from Hamburg and Le Havre.
The ship docked in NY on March 16, 1891. Unfortunately, the only
information provided on the manifest was his age, country and most recent
city of residence, country of destination and his "profession". Was
additional information sought >from new immigrants and if so, would it be
available some place else, such as in Ellis Island or its predecessor? I
was hoping to find the name of the person meeting the ship, his
destination within the US, etc.

Any help you could provide will be much appreciated.

TIA

Elizabeth Shamroth

Searching: SCHWARTZ-Lithuania, BARJANSKY,
TRACHTENHERZ,GOLDENBERG,AICHENWALD, RATGAUS-Odessa and
WEISSTEIN-Tarnopol/Lviv


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SPANIER #general

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

To anyone who knows German, it seems rather obvious that the surname
SPANIER probably means 'someone >from Spain'. In juedische
Familienforschung, however, a view was put forth that the name refers to a
dealer of a type of laced vest that was called a Spanier = Spanish.

Why? Well, take my earliest documented SPANIER ancestor, Moses. He died
1596/97. The expulsions >from Spain & Portugal had taken place only about
100 years before. Yet he & his family were firmly associated with teh
Ashkenazic Community in his area, not the Sephardic. His son Nathan had
business in Hamburg. In Hamburg, the Sephardic Jews had a much stronger
commercial relationship with the Christian rulers of the area than did the
Ashkenazic Jews. Nathan Spanier's grandfather might have had memories of
the expulsion era. That's awfully soon to lose all memory of Sephardic
traditions.

This family's earliest documents take them back to Stadthagen. There's a
SPANIER family that stayed in Stadthagen, right to the Holocaust. No
documented relationship between their family & mine could be established,
even before the Holocaust. There's also a very old SPANIER family in
Bielefeld that is felt by some to derive >from the Stadthagen Spaniers, and
a younger family in, I think, Paderborn, that can't be connected to any
other.

About 4 or 5 years ago I did a search on an on-line German phone directory
for SPANIER and got hundreds of hits. This is far too many for SPANIER to
have been an exclusively Jewish surname [of which there are actually very
few in Germany. That's what made it 'necessary' for the Nazis to tag
Jews with the middle names Israel for men & Sarah for women].

The name occurs more recently in Vienna, and there's of course Florence
Marmor's grandfather in Kolomeya.

As is so often the case, one can't conclude much >from a surname alone.
One is going to have to trace one's own family back.

Is there anyone out there surnamed SPANIER who can trace his/her ancestry
back to Nathan SPANIER? [PS - yes, he's the one in Gluekel of Hameln's
memoirs].

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI