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Hebrew equivalent of Gaspar #hungary

Gary Binetter <gbin@...>
 

Does anybody have a Gaspar in the family? What is the usual Hebrew equivalent name?

Thank you all for the invaluable information that you share.
I wish you and your families a healthy, happy and safe 1999.

Gary Binetter
researching BAUMHORN, BECK, BINETTER, POLLAK


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hebrew equivalent of Gaspar #hungary

Gary Binetter <gbin@...>
 

Does anybody have a Gaspar in the family? What is the usual Hebrew equivalent name?

Thank you all for the invaluable information that you share.
I wish you and your families a healthy, happy and safe 1999.

Gary Binetter
researching BAUMHORN, BECK, BINETTER, POLLAK


GrĊ¸nwald books #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

While in Jerusalem last week I found copies of an interesting series of books by Rabbi Y Y Grunwald, who was for many years rabbi in Columbus Ohio, and a major writer on Hungarian Jewish religious history. (I found a good selection of these books at Lichtenstein & Holder---Kikar Shabat, at the place where Straus meets Meah SHearim and Malchei Yisrael) He wrote a biography of Maharam Shick, a history of religious conflicts in Hungary, a book about prominent Hungarian rabbis and books about several communities. (He also quotes a family history he wrote of the Rosenthal family of Budapest, but I have never seen a copy, perhaps it was privately published) I purchased one about Huncovce, Obuda, and Nove Mesto (Ir Chadash). The books were not cheap, or I would have acquired the whole set, but they were available. They are full of names, transcripts of old communal archives made before the first world war, and of old gravestones, family names and information, and are a treasure trove.


Rabbi AVrohom Marmorstein
mehadrin@aol.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary GrĊ¸nwald books #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

While in Jerusalem last week I found copies of an interesting series of books by Rabbi Y Y Grunwald, who was for many years rabbi in Columbus Ohio, and a major writer on Hungarian Jewish religious history. (I found a good selection of these books at Lichtenstein & Holder---Kikar Shabat, at the place where Straus meets Meah SHearim and Malchei Yisrael) He wrote a biography of Maharam Shick, a history of religious conflicts in Hungary, a book about prominent Hungarian rabbis and books about several communities. (He also quotes a family history he wrote of the Rosenthal family of Budapest, but I have never seen a copy, perhaps it was privately published) I purchased one about Huncovce, Obuda, and Nove Mesto (Ir Chadash). The books were not cheap, or I would have acquired the whole set, but they were available. They are full of names, transcripts of old communal archives made before the first world war, and of old gravestones, family names and information, and are a treasure trove.


Rabbi AVrohom Marmorstein
mehadrin@aol.com


JGSPBC,Inc. January membership meeting #general

Curiousyl@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society Palm Beach County, Inc. - notice of January
Membership Meeting:

Wednesday, January 13, 1999
1-4-P.M.
South County Civic Centre
116700 Jog Road
Delray Beach, Florida

Guest Speaker: Dr. Leon Weissberg, Executive Director of the Jewish
Education Commission of South Pam Beach County.
Dr. Weissberg will utilize maps in his discussion
of the
movement of Jews towards Central and Eastern
Europe.

Meeting open to members and guests.

Information: Al Leeds: 561-496-3354
e-mail: ALBLEEDS @AOL.COM
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov 561-483-1060
e-mail: CURIOUSYL@AOL.COM
Co-Presidents: JGSPBCI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSPBC,Inc. January membership meeting #general

Curiousyl@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society Palm Beach County, Inc. - notice of January
Membership Meeting:

Wednesday, January 13, 1999
1-4-P.M.
South County Civic Centre
116700 Jog Road
Delray Beach, Florida

Guest Speaker: Dr. Leon Weissberg, Executive Director of the Jewish
Education Commission of South Pam Beach County.
Dr. Weissberg will utilize maps in his discussion
of the
movement of Jews towards Central and Eastern
Europe.

Meeting open to members and guests.

Information: Al Leeds: 561-496-3354
e-mail: ALBLEEDS @AOL.COM
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov 561-483-1060
e-mail: CURIOUSYL@AOL.COM
Co-Presidents: JGSPBCI


Looking for NISHE from Bobruysk #belarus

Mikhoyel Basherives <mikhoyel@...>
 

Forgive me if this enquiry is not appropriate to this listserve.
My family is >from Bobruysk & nearby. Has anyone ever heard of the male
name NISHE? A half brother of my great grandmother was named Yisroel-Nishe
& no one seems to have heard of the name. I have wondered if it is perhaps
a shortened form of a more common name such as Menashe the way Srul is
derived >from Yisroel & Ides >from Yehudis, etc..
Thank you.

Mikhoyel Basherives
Marin Co., Calif.

searching RUFER Pobelov/ PLOTKIN Bobruysk/ SHVARTSMAN Rogachev(Ragachov)


Belarus SIG #Belarus Looking for NISHE from Bobruysk #belarus

Mikhoyel Basherives <mikhoyel@...>
 

Forgive me if this enquiry is not appropriate to this listserve.
My family is >from Bobruysk & nearby. Has anyone ever heard of the male
name NISHE? A half brother of my great grandmother was named Yisroel-Nishe
& no one seems to have heard of the name. I have wondered if it is perhaps
a shortened form of a more common name such as Menashe the way Srul is
derived >from Yisroel & Ides >from Yehudis, etc..
Thank you.

Mikhoyel Basherives
Marin Co., Calif.

searching RUFER Pobelov/ PLOTKIN Bobruysk/ SHVARTSMAN Rogachev(Ragachov)


Happy New Year to our JewishGen Yizkor Project family! #yizkorbooks

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
 

from the Board of Directors of JewishGen, our volunteers worldwide we
want to wish all involved in the JewishGen Yizkor Book Project a very
happy, healthy and prosperous New Year.

We also want to extend our deep appreciation to all of you who have
supported JewishGen throughout the year with your time, your
creativity, your sharing of information and your financial support.

As we move closer and closer to the new millenium... JewishGen is
being driven by its mission and its commitment to the Jewish
community.. of "preserving our history for future generations".

To this end, JewishGen is launching a series of new projects in 1999,
including JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers, providing an opportunity for all
of us to walk in the footsteps of our ancestors and to document and
preserve information pertaining to our ancestral shtetls. We are very
pleased and proud of the team we are assembling, a professional team
of guides and researchers in every major country in Eastern Europe, as
well as a dynamic team of JewishGen volunteers who will be serving as
Group Leaders, assisting participants in their planning and research
prior to departure and who will be available on-site as JewishGen's
hosts. We are finalizing pricing as we speak... and will have further
details available within the next few weeks. Stay tuned!

If you have not visited the online ShtetlSchleppers site, please do...
and if you have an interest in participating be sure to complete the
form at the very end and get it back to us ASAP. Groups are being
formed and space is limited. >from the home page
http://www.jewishgen.org scroll down andn click on the
ShtetlSchleppers banner, or go directly to
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/


ShtetlSchleppers will provide a unique opportunity to travel on
genealogical tours, visiting the
ancestral villages of our families, culminating in an activity no
other tour offers. Using the latest technology, JewishGen plans to
transfer all documents and information gathered into a single central
electronic storage, management and retrieval system which will be
accessible through the JewishGen web site. (http://www.jewishgen.org)

This is the single element that sets ShtetlSchleppers apart >from all
other tours. Our goal is to insure that Jewish lives, both past and
present, woven into the fabric of social and cultural history, rise
again >from the ashes of the destroyed communities you will be visiting
with JewishGen.

As this new year progresses and we "march" ever so quickly into the
new millenium, there will be no doubt about the role each of us will
have in combining our personal research with the preservation of our
history. It is going to take a concerted effort on all of our parts to
begin the "march", cooperatively and collectively, so together we will
greet the year 2000 with, as one JewishGen'r and survivor recently
wrote, "the most meaningful ex post facto forms of resistance to the
Nazi undertaking in the last twenty years."

To our family and friends around the world... we extend our best
wishes in welcoming in the New Year!

Susan


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Happy New Year to our JewishGen Yizkor Project family! #yizkorbooks

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
 

from the Board of Directors of JewishGen, our volunteers worldwide we
want to wish all involved in the JewishGen Yizkor Book Project a very
happy, healthy and prosperous New Year.

We also want to extend our deep appreciation to all of you who have
supported JewishGen throughout the year with your time, your
creativity, your sharing of information and your financial support.

As we move closer and closer to the new millenium... JewishGen is
being driven by its mission and its commitment to the Jewish
community.. of "preserving our history for future generations".

To this end, JewishGen is launching a series of new projects in 1999,
including JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers, providing an opportunity for all
of us to walk in the footsteps of our ancestors and to document and
preserve information pertaining to our ancestral shtetls. We are very
pleased and proud of the team we are assembling, a professional team
of guides and researchers in every major country in Eastern Europe, as
well as a dynamic team of JewishGen volunteers who will be serving as
Group Leaders, assisting participants in their planning and research
prior to departure and who will be available on-site as JewishGen's
hosts. We are finalizing pricing as we speak... and will have further
details available within the next few weeks. Stay tuned!

If you have not visited the online ShtetlSchleppers site, please do...
and if you have an interest in participating be sure to complete the
form at the very end and get it back to us ASAP. Groups are being
formed and space is limited. >from the home page
http://www.jewishgen.org scroll down andn click on the
ShtetlSchleppers banner, or go directly to
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/


ShtetlSchleppers will provide a unique opportunity to travel on
genealogical tours, visiting the
ancestral villages of our families, culminating in an activity no
other tour offers. Using the latest technology, JewishGen plans to
transfer all documents and information gathered into a single central
electronic storage, management and retrieval system which will be
accessible through the JewishGen web site. (http://www.jewishgen.org)

This is the single element that sets ShtetlSchleppers apart >from all
other tours. Our goal is to insure that Jewish lives, both past and
present, woven into the fabric of social and cultural history, rise
again >from the ashes of the destroyed communities you will be visiting
with JewishGen.

As this new year progresses and we "march" ever so quickly into the
new millenium, there will be no doubt about the role each of us will
have in combining our personal research with the preservation of our
history. It is going to take a concerted effort on all of our parts to
begin the "march", cooperatively and collectively, so together we will
greet the year 2000 with, as one JewishGen'r and survivor recently
wrote, "the most meaningful ex post facto forms of resistance to the
Nazi undertaking in the last twenty years."

To our family and friends around the world... we extend our best
wishes in welcoming in the New Year!

Susan


My updated surname checklist #general

james gross <larklane@...>
 

Hello,
Information overload. I've got it. After you hit enough
archives, look up as many surnames as I've done, it
turns into a paper overload. Filing? I re-do it often.
Its gotten to the point where it is seriously impeding
my ability to know which documents I need per person.

So, as a person with a large tree and many names,
I have this problem: I need to be able to QUICKLY
identify what document I need per relative. I have a
desktop computer but I can't take it on research trips.
I'm too lazy to do anything more than basic name
inputting. My solution to this problem has been to create
a few genealogy ledgers or checklists.

My checklists are housed in your normal 3 ring binder
with 8x11 size paper. Opening 2 pages opposite each
other creates one long "page" with long horizontal and
vertical columns. Basically just a large ledger. Due to
the size of my tree, I have 2 ledgers, on for the maternal
side and one for the paternal side of my family.

To date it has the following items on it:

Soc sec #, soc sec application (y/n), passport (y/n),
dob, ship (manifest & photo), dod, HIAS, cemetary
(location & photo(y/n) , US census (1900,1910,1920),
NY state Census (1905,1915,1925), naturalized (y/n),
Military (wwi,ww2, draft card & mil file), Obits: regular paper
& Jewish paper), birth & death cert (Date),
Marriage (y/n), will or estate.

I then added a third ledger, an obit list. Even though it is
duplicated >from the above mentioned ledger, I decided that
I was in need of a separate obituary list based on years.
It has made life a lot easier for me in terms of efficient usage
of library time. I have the list organized in two sections: By
family branch, and based on year, in 10 year increments.
Thus, I have my 1990 deaths, my 1980 deaths, etc. On this
computer printout I have a check for local newspaper obit,
and for Jewish newspaper obit. My local Jewish paper is the
Jewish Exponent and my local regular papers are the Phila
Inquirer and Phila Bulletin.

In terms of usage and helpfulness, the first research
trip where I used this checklist, I found 15 Jewish
Exponent (local Jewish paper) obituaries. My origional
checklist was modified to the list seen above. I used 2
bottles of whiteout and adjusted my list to reflect those
which I felt needed to be added.

The checklist or ledger system which I have detailed
here may not be right for you. Everyone has their own
preferences and methodology for record keeping. I have
a colleague who uses his computer for everything, while
I rely more on my paper files.

Regardless of what system you use, it is important
to be cognizant that increased efficiency improves the
quality of the family tree research and that complacency
in record keeping and filing may prove to be a detriment
to your goal of finding documents for your family tree.

James H. Gross
Cherry Hill, N.J.
e-mail: LARKLANE@JUNO.COM
Gross-Steinberg Family Tree
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen My updated surname checklist #general

james gross <larklane@...>
 

Hello,
Information overload. I've got it. After you hit enough
archives, look up as many surnames as I've done, it
turns into a paper overload. Filing? I re-do it often.
Its gotten to the point where it is seriously impeding
my ability to know which documents I need per person.

So, as a person with a large tree and many names,
I have this problem: I need to be able to QUICKLY
identify what document I need per relative. I have a
desktop computer but I can't take it on research trips.
I'm too lazy to do anything more than basic name
inputting. My solution to this problem has been to create
a few genealogy ledgers or checklists.

My checklists are housed in your normal 3 ring binder
with 8x11 size paper. Opening 2 pages opposite each
other creates one long "page" with long horizontal and
vertical columns. Basically just a large ledger. Due to
the size of my tree, I have 2 ledgers, on for the maternal
side and one for the paternal side of my family.

To date it has the following items on it:

Soc sec #, soc sec application (y/n), passport (y/n),
dob, ship (manifest & photo), dod, HIAS, cemetary
(location & photo(y/n) , US census (1900,1910,1920),
NY state Census (1905,1915,1925), naturalized (y/n),
Military (wwi,ww2, draft card & mil file), Obits: regular paper
& Jewish paper), birth & death cert (Date),
Marriage (y/n), will or estate.

I then added a third ledger, an obit list. Even though it is
duplicated >from the above mentioned ledger, I decided that
I was in need of a separate obituary list based on years.
It has made life a lot easier for me in terms of efficient usage
of library time. I have the list organized in two sections: By
family branch, and based on year, in 10 year increments.
Thus, I have my 1990 deaths, my 1980 deaths, etc. On this
computer printout I have a check for local newspaper obit,
and for Jewish newspaper obit. My local Jewish paper is the
Jewish Exponent and my local regular papers are the Phila
Inquirer and Phila Bulletin.

In terms of usage and helpfulness, the first research
trip where I used this checklist, I found 15 Jewish
Exponent (local Jewish paper) obituaries. My origional
checklist was modified to the list seen above. I used 2
bottles of whiteout and adjusted my list to reflect those
which I felt needed to be added.

The checklist or ledger system which I have detailed
here may not be right for you. Everyone has their own
preferences and methodology for record keeping. I have
a colleague who uses his computer for everything, while
I rely more on my paper files.

Regardless of what system you use, it is important
to be cognizant that increased efficiency improves the
quality of the family tree research and that complacency
in record keeping and filing may prove to be a detriment
to your goal of finding documents for your family tree.

James H. Gross
Cherry Hill, N.J.
e-mail: LARKLANE@JUNO.COM
Gross-Steinberg Family Tree
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721/


Re: social security speculations #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

I do not think the coverage of survivors is an innovation (although I am
not an expert on SS benefits). The official name of the agency contains the
formula "Old Age and Survivors".

On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:42:36, jonina.duker@juno.com (Jonina Duker) 'llowed:

-> Social security payments now cover surviving spouses and dependent
-> children as well as providing a form of disability insurance. Could it
-> be that when first set up there was some "grandfathering" credit for
-> previous work history in the case of a minor dependent child? OR
widowed
-> spouse? In that case possibly a death date would be in the system for
-> years previous to the system's existence. Does anyone know enough about
-> SSA benefits when first established to figure this out?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ISMACH, ROKITA: >from Lomza
Gubernia, Poland
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
[You can download Java 1.1.6 >from my site, if you don't have it]

Mail sent to "sheol@hashkedim.com" will not be read. Please replace
"sheol" with "styx", or communicate with me through the Website
mentioned just above. Thank you.

MODERATOR NOTE: Instead of continuing speculation on the cause of
impossible dates and how they came to be in the SSDI, do we have a
volunteer who will write to the Social Security Administration
and report back to this forum with facts? This thread is ended...
except for posting the name of the first volunteer to come forth.
Needless to say the topic will be re-visited when we have a
reliable answer >from the SSA itself.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: social security speculations #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

I do not think the coverage of survivors is an innovation (although I am
not an expert on SS benefits). The official name of the agency contains the
formula "Old Age and Survivors".

On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:42:36, jonina.duker@juno.com (Jonina Duker) 'llowed:

-> Social security payments now cover surviving spouses and dependent
-> children as well as providing a form of disability insurance. Could it
-> be that when first set up there was some "grandfathering" credit for
-> previous work history in the case of a minor dependent child? OR
widowed
-> spouse? In that case possibly a death date would be in the system for
-> years previous to the system's existence. Does anyone know enough about
-> SSA benefits when first established to figure this out?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ISMACH, ROKITA: >from Lomza
Gubernia, Poland
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
[You can download Java 1.1.6 >from my site, if you don't have it]

Mail sent to "sheol@hashkedim.com" will not be read. Please replace
"sheol" with "styx", or communicate with me through the Website
mentioned just above. Thank you.

MODERATOR NOTE: Instead of continuing speculation on the cause of
impossible dates and how they came to be in the SSDI, do we have a
volunteer who will write to the Social Security Administration
and report back to this forum with facts? This thread is ended...
except for posting the name of the first volunteer to come forth.
Needless to say the topic will be re-visited when we have a
reliable answer >from the SSA itself.


Re: SSDI mystery #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:44:44, Aejordan@aol.com 'llowed:

----------------snip---------------
Hi, Allan...

SSDI is not maintained by any government agency. SSI itself has posted (see
their Website) that they are not responsible for the SSDI, and that it must
have been posted by some perhaps legitimate recipient of the database.
Right there is where a lot of errors can creep in.

-> Anyone know who maintains the SSI database -- SSI itself --
-> and how often is it updated?
-
-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
[You can download Java 1.1.6 >from my site, if you don't have it]

Mail sent to "sheol@hashkedim.com" will not be read. Please replace "sheol"
with "styx", or communicate with me through the Website mentioned just
above. Thank you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSDI mystery #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:44:44, Aejordan@aol.com 'llowed:

----------------snip---------------
Hi, Allan...

SSDI is not maintained by any government agency. SSI itself has posted (see
their Website) that they are not responsible for the SSDI, and that it must
have been posted by some perhaps legitimate recipient of the database.
Right there is where a lot of errors can creep in.

-> Anyone know who maintains the SSI database -- SSI itself --
-> and how often is it updated?
-
-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
[You can download Java 1.1.6 >from my site, if you don't have it]

Mail sent to "sheol@hashkedim.com" will not be read. Please replace "sheol"
with "styx", or communicate with me through the Website mentioned just
above. Thank you.


Re: SSDI mystery #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-12-31 12:44:41 EST, Aejordan@AOL.COM writes:

<< The other thing many of you have likely already learned but I
just discovered is that the searching on Ancestry.com's link to
SSI is very litteral. I tried searching Nathan Sanders and the
systen did not show the right one to me. The other day I tried
searching Sanders and birth date 1892 and low and behold he
showed up. His first name was not in as Nathan but instead as Nat!
>>

Is this a link page that permits one to go directly to SS records?
What is the full URL?

TIA

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSDI mystery #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-12-31 12:44:41 EST, Aejordan@AOL.COM writes:

<< The other thing many of you have likely already learned but I
just discovered is that the searching on Ancestry.com's link to
SSI is very litteral. I tried searching Nathan Sanders and the
systen did not show the right one to me. The other day I tried
searching Sanders and birth date 1892 and low and behold he
showed up. His first name was not in as Nathan but instead as Nat!
>>

Is this a link page that permits one to go directly to SS records?
What is the full URL?

TIA

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Jews in Montreal ca. 1900 #general

Shel <sbercovich@...>
 

A "dry goods store" as I know it >from the Canadian prairies sold clothing
and clothing-related items: Shoes, coats, dresses, suits (male & female),
socks, shirts, overalls, pants, underwear (male & female), cloth from
"bolts" (in bulk), sewing/knitting needs, etc.

Shel Bercovich, Alberta, Canada

In article <368AC40D.C66D8B2A@netvision.net.il>, Yonatan Ben-David
<YoniBenD@netvision.net.il> wrote:

[snip]
Is there a JewishGenner >from Montreal
who can tell me exactly what a dry goods store was,
[snip]
-- Remove "s" in waves in Return address before sending reply
sbercovich@shaw.wave.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews in Montreal ca. 1900 #general

Shel <sbercovich@...>
 

A "dry goods store" as I know it >from the Canadian prairies sold clothing
and clothing-related items: Shoes, coats, dresses, suits (male & female),
socks, shirts, overalls, pants, underwear (male & female), cloth from
"bolts" (in bulk), sewing/knitting needs, etc.

Shel Bercovich, Alberta, Canada

In article <368AC40D.C66D8B2A@netvision.net.il>, Yonatan Ben-David
<YoniBenD@netvision.net.il> wrote:

[snip]
Is there a JewishGenner >from Montreal
who can tell me exactly what a dry goods store was,
[snip]
-- Remove "s" in waves in Return address before sending reply
sbercovich@shaw.wave.ca