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Re : Louis is not Levy ? #general

Alkrams <alkrams@...>
 

I am sorry, I did not see the begining of the argument. I just read Uri
Link's answer.

What I can say about it is that in French, Louis has been most frequently
used as a translation for Zeev (Wolf in German). The french translation
should be "loup" but as this does not exist as a name, "Louis" was the most
proximate sounding. Louis has also some times in 1808 been taken for Lehman
or for Lippman.

The usuel French translation for Arieh is Lion (or Juda), the most frequent
French avatar is Leon.

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Genealogie Juive


Census Records in Russian Empire #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was told that census records in certain parts of the Russian Empire did
not continue after the 1870's or thereabouts. That is unfortunate, since
any records with patronymics are essential to determine relationships. In
my case, I cannot be 100% sure that someone was my
great-great-great-grandfather because the census record for the Borisov
region did not continue after 1875. Can someone discuss this issue, and to
what extent it was prevalent?

Thanks,

David Goldman
davic@...


Re: Metz, France #general

BasGinger@...
 

You can have information on Genealor, the newsgroup for
Lorraine (not specifically Jewish) by emailing to
<genealog@...>

BTW, maybe we could also help you, specially for very
ancient generations

Basile Ginger
Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Paris
cgjgenefr@...


First online board meeting #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Dear SIG:

Last night, we had a very successful and interactive board meeting. Many
issues were discussed - the "All Lithuania" database, the Uyezd Research
Groups, Membership, Finances, future orders, and our website. We are in the
process of summarizing all that went on in the almost two hours of discussion,
and will post this summary to the Digest within a day or so.

Tune in!

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-coordinator, LitvakSIG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re : Louis is not Levy ? #general

Alkrams <alkrams@...>
 

I am sorry, I did not see the begining of the argument. I just read Uri
Link's answer.

What I can say about it is that in French, Louis has been most frequently
used as a translation for Zeev (Wolf in German). The french translation
should be "loup" but as this does not exist as a name, "Louis" was the most
proximate sounding. Louis has also some times in 1808 been taken for Lehman
or for Lippman.

The usuel French translation for Arieh is Lion (or Juda), the most frequent
French avatar is Leon.

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Genealogie Juive


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Census Records in Russian Empire #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was told that census records in certain parts of the Russian Empire did
not continue after the 1870's or thereabouts. That is unfortunate, since
any records with patronymics are essential to determine relationships. In
my case, I cannot be 100% sure that someone was my
great-great-great-grandfather because the census record for the Borisov
region did not continue after 1875. Can someone discuss this issue, and to
what extent it was prevalent?

Thanks,

David Goldman
davic@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Metz, France #general

BasGinger@...
 

You can have information on Genealor, the newsgroup for
Lorraine (not specifically Jewish) by emailing to
<genealog@...>

BTW, maybe we could also help you, specially for very
ancient generations

Basile Ginger
Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Paris
cgjgenefr@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania First online board meeting #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Dear SIG:

Last night, we had a very successful and interactive board meeting. Many
issues were discussed - the "All Lithuania" database, the Uyezd Research
Groups, Membership, Finances, future orders, and our website. We are in the
process of summarizing all that went on in the almost two hours of discussion,
and will post this summary to the Digest within a day or so.

Tune in!

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-coordinator, LitvakSIG


Photocopy service for JRI-Poland Shtetl CO-OPs #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

It's official!

The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland Toronto Photocopy service for
Shtetl CO-OPs is up and running.

Shtetl CO-OP volunteers will now be able to obtain copies of their index
pages >from the LDS films of Jewish vital records of Poland, through this
convenient service without leaving their homes...

This new service solves a major problem for those CO-OPs whose
members do not have easy access to an LDS Family History Center.
This is particularly the case for our Israeli volunteers since there are
no LDS Family History Centers in Israel.

So, if getting photocopies was the only reason holding you back from
starting a Shtetl CO-OP or helping out with an existing Shtetl CO-OP,
your problem is solved.

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland extends its appreciation to
Stan Zeidenberg of Toronto who heads up the Photocopy Service
and to the JGS of Canada (Toronto) which has agreed to handle
the accounting side of the activity.

For details on how to start a Shtetl CO-OP to index the Jewish vital
records for the town in Poland where your family once lived, and
for more information on the Toronto Photocopy Center, check the
Shtetl CO-OP page on the JRI-Poland web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl.

Existing Shtetl CO-OPs, don't delay! Register your order for
photocopies of additional index pages with Transliteration and
Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator Hadassah Lipsius at <Kesher@...>

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Photocopy service for JRI-Poland Shtetl CO-OPs #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

It's official!

The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland Toronto Photocopy service for
Shtetl CO-OPs is up and running.

Shtetl CO-OP volunteers will now be able to obtain copies of their index
pages >from the LDS films of Jewish vital records of Poland, through this
convenient service without leaving their homes...

This new service solves a major problem for those CO-OPs whose
members do not have easy access to an LDS Family History Center.
This is particularly the case for our Israeli volunteers since there are
no LDS Family History Centers in Israel.

So, if getting photocopies was the only reason holding you back from
starting a Shtetl CO-OP or helping out with an existing Shtetl CO-OP,
your problem is solved.

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland extends its appreciation to
Stan Zeidenberg of Toronto who heads up the Photocopy Service
and to the JGS of Canada (Toronto) which has agreed to handle
the accounting side of the activity.

For details on how to start a Shtetl CO-OP to index the Jewish vital
records for the town in Poland where your family once lived, and
for more information on the Toronto Photocopy Center, check the
Shtetl CO-OP page on the JRI-Poland web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl.

Existing Shtetl CO-OPs, don't delay! Register your order for
photocopies of additional index pages with Transliteration and
Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator Hadassah Lipsius at <Kesher@...>

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Re: Gap in NYC Marriage Indices? #general

Judith27
 

<Steinsteve@...> asked...
The NYPL has microfilm reels for the NYC Marriage Indices as follows:
Reel 4 - 1902-1906
Reel 4A - 1907-1910
Reel 6 - 1913-1914
Does anyone know if there is a Reel 5? A cryptic message at the beginning
of Reel 6 indicates that something may be missing or unavailable
Dear Steve -- and all other interested parties...,
It's quite possible that indexes for those years either were not
created, or that they were inadvertently not microfilmed.
On Tuesday, at the NYC Municipal Archives, I was scrolling through the
Brooklyn Brides Index for the year 1909. Roll #5 had brides for that year
whose last names began with letters A through I -- but roll #6 started
young women who married in 1909 whose name began with the letter L. I
never located a microfilmed index for Brooklyn Brides in the year 1909
whose last names began with a "J" or a "K."
Naturally I was searching forthe record of a bride surnamed KLOMPUS
whose most likely year of marriage was 1909....
The best way to find out would be to go to NYC Municipal Archives in
order to see what they have, or else consult their website at
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doris/html/archives.html
or http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/serdir/html/xdoris01.html

Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan, Long Beach, NY
(Judith27@...)

Researching: APPELBAUM, BALINKY, BERNHARDT, BOCHUR, FLIEGEL, KUFELD,
LANGER, LEPAR, NACHUMOVITZ, RODITI, SHAMIS, SURNAMER, WEBER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gap in NYC Marriage Indices? #general

Judith27
 

<Steinsteve@...> asked...
The NYPL has microfilm reels for the NYC Marriage Indices as follows:
Reel 4 - 1902-1906
Reel 4A - 1907-1910
Reel 6 - 1913-1914
Does anyone know if there is a Reel 5? A cryptic message at the beginning
of Reel 6 indicates that something may be missing or unavailable
Dear Steve -- and all other interested parties...,
It's quite possible that indexes for those years either were not
created, or that they were inadvertently not microfilmed.
On Tuesday, at the NYC Municipal Archives, I was scrolling through the
Brooklyn Brides Index for the year 1909. Roll #5 had brides for that year
whose last names began with letters A through I -- but roll #6 started
young women who married in 1909 whose name began with the letter L. I
never located a microfilmed index for Brooklyn Brides in the year 1909
whose last names began with a "J" or a "K."
Naturally I was searching forthe record of a bride surnamed KLOMPUS
whose most likely year of marriage was 1909....
The best way to find out would be to go to NYC Municipal Archives in
order to see what they have, or else consult their website at
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doris/html/archives.html
or http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/serdir/html/xdoris01.html

Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan, Long Beach, NY
(Judith27@...)

Researching: APPELBAUM, BALINKY, BERNHARDT, BOCHUR, FLIEGEL, KUFELD,
LANGER, LEPAR, NACHUMOVITZ, RODITI, SHAMIS, SURNAMER, WEBER


Baron de Hirsch #general

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

i have responded privately to Mre. feldman but wish to clarify the two
basic responses that were posted publicly.

While bothe the Canadian Archives and the American Jewish Historical
Society have records, there are records of the colonies and colonists in
several other places. For example, many of the people were assisted by
the Jewish Colonization Association which was funded by Baron de Hirsch .

I have found records in YIVO (some reports on the colonists in Hirsh which
were very detailed-- in French), in the Canadian jewish Congress Archives
(loans to farmers), in LDS (homestead papers >from Saskatchewan) and Angus
Baxter reported in his book that the records of the Hirsh cemetery are in
the Estevan (SK) Public Library.

And by all means, anyone doing research on jewish settlers in Western
Canada should check the Genealogical Institue at the Jewish Historical
Institute of Western Canada in Winnipeg. Check Louis kessler's web site
for several indices of surnames in newspapers, cemeteries, and other
hodings of the society archive. Sit can be reached at:
http://www.concentric.com/~lkessler/

I spent two weeks in Manitoba and Saskatchewan in the summer of 1997 and
also found records at the Provincial archives of bothe Manitoba and
Saskatchewan. Local history sections of the Public libraries in Regina
and Saskatoon, the Legislative Library of Manitoba (many newspapers on
microfilm available thru ILL) and the Saskatchewan Genealogical Society
which has a website which can be accessed through Cyndislist.com

To newbies and others. In order to do a thorough search of your ancestors
you may have to look in many places before you hit gold. Do not think
that because you cannot find a record in a standardly cited source, that
there are none available. And don't get discouraged. The more obscure
the location the chance for more than just a date and place grows
exponentially. I have found wonderful stories of ancestores in the most
unlikely places.

Gladys Friedman Paulin
Winter Park, FL

P.S. BTW, the Baron de Hirsch Fund also sponsored colonies in many other
countries including Argentina and Palestine. There are records in
Argentina and in Israel-- in fact many of the Argenitina records are in
the University Library in Jerusalem.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Baron de Hirsch #general

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

i have responded privately to Mre. feldman but wish to clarify the two
basic responses that were posted publicly.

While bothe the Canadian Archives and the American Jewish Historical
Society have records, there are records of the colonies and colonists in
several other places. For example, many of the people were assisted by
the Jewish Colonization Association which was funded by Baron de Hirsch .

I have found records in YIVO (some reports on the colonists in Hirsh which
were very detailed-- in French), in the Canadian jewish Congress Archives
(loans to farmers), in LDS (homestead papers >from Saskatchewan) and Angus
Baxter reported in his book that the records of the Hirsh cemetery are in
the Estevan (SK) Public Library.

And by all means, anyone doing research on jewish settlers in Western
Canada should check the Genealogical Institue at the Jewish Historical
Institute of Western Canada in Winnipeg. Check Louis kessler's web site
for several indices of surnames in newspapers, cemeteries, and other
hodings of the society archive. Sit can be reached at:
http://www.concentric.com/~lkessler/

I spent two weeks in Manitoba and Saskatchewan in the summer of 1997 and
also found records at the Provincial archives of bothe Manitoba and
Saskatchewan. Local history sections of the Public libraries in Regina
and Saskatoon, the Legislative Library of Manitoba (many newspapers on
microfilm available thru ILL) and the Saskatchewan Genealogical Society
which has a website which can be accessed through Cyndislist.com

To newbies and others. In order to do a thorough search of your ancestors
you may have to look in many places before you hit gold. Do not think
that because you cannot find a record in a standardly cited source, that
there are none available. And don't get discouraged. The more obscure
the location the chance for more than just a date and place grows
exponentially. I have found wonderful stories of ancestores in the most
unlikely places.

Gladys Friedman Paulin
Winter Park, FL

P.S. BTW, the Baron de Hirsch Fund also sponsored colonies in many other
countries including Argentina and Palestine. There are records in
Argentina and in Israel-- in fact many of the Argenitina records are in
the University Library in Jerusalem.


Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum Records #general

DAVID ROSEN <72426.1553@...>
 

Julianne and Thomas Lockwood" <juto@...> wrote:

Seeking Help >from NY/Brooklyn JewishGenner re: Orphan's Court

On July 23, 1902, Pauline Kirsch, then age 5, was committed to the
Brooklyn
Hebrew Orphan Asylum by J.E. Dougherty. Her sister, Julia Kirsch, then
age 3, was committed to BHOA on November 17, 1902, by ...........
Records for the Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum are held by the American
Jewish Historical Society, (AJHS) 2, Thornton Rd. , Waltham MA.
The Spring 1995 issue of Avotaynu has a definitive article by Nancy
Arbeiter entitled "New York Orphan Asylum Holdings at the American Jewish
Historical Society"

David Rosen
Boston, MA


re NYC marriage indices #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Steve,
The Family History Library has complete marriage indices for all
boroughs in NYC Manhattan August 1888-1937 (includes West Bronx
1888-1897; East Bronx 1895-1897) Bronx 1898-1937; Brooklyn
1894-1937 ; Queens 1898-1937; and Staten Island (Richmond)
1898-1937
they also have a *bride's card index* 1866-1937

To find the closest FHL to where you live call 1-800-346-6044

Carol Skydell,
Chilmark MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum Records #general

DAVID ROSEN <72426.1553@...>
 

Julianne and Thomas Lockwood" <juto@...> wrote:

Seeking Help >from NY/Brooklyn JewishGenner re: Orphan's Court

On July 23, 1902, Pauline Kirsch, then age 5, was committed to the
Brooklyn
Hebrew Orphan Asylum by J.E. Dougherty. Her sister, Julia Kirsch, then
age 3, was committed to BHOA on November 17, 1902, by ...........
Records for the Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum are held by the American
Jewish Historical Society, (AJHS) 2, Thornton Rd. , Waltham MA.
The Spring 1995 issue of Avotaynu has a definitive article by Nancy
Arbeiter entitled "New York Orphan Asylum Holdings at the American Jewish
Historical Society"

David Rosen
Boston, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re NYC marriage indices #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Steve,
The Family History Library has complete marriage indices for all
boroughs in NYC Manhattan August 1888-1937 (includes West Bronx
1888-1897; East Bronx 1895-1897) Bronx 1898-1937; Brooklyn
1894-1937 ; Queens 1898-1937; and Staten Island (Richmond)
1898-1937
they also have a *bride's card index* 1866-1937

To find the closest FHL to where you live call 1-800-346-6044

Carol Skydell,
Chilmark MA


Migration to Kaminetz Podolsk #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was wondering what is known about Jewish migration to Kaminetz Podolsk. I
have not been able to find people coming >from there who carried my
ancestral name, Krasinsky. I am wondering whether my forebearers migrated
to that area (Nova Ushitza, formerly Latnowitz) >from further north. Does
anyone have any info on this issue?

Thanks,

David Goldman
davic@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Migration to Kaminetz Podolsk #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was wondering what is known about Jewish migration to Kaminetz Podolsk. I
have not been able to find people coming >from there who carried my
ancestral name, Krasinsky. I am wondering whether my forebearers migrated
to that area (Nova Ushitza, formerly Latnowitz) >from further north. Does
anyone have any info on this issue?

Thanks,

David Goldman
davic@...