Hi all,

I am doing research on the WEISS family >from Tarnow and Germany. Feivel
WEISS (my wife's great grandfather) lived in Tarnow in the late 1800's. He
had at least 2 brothers that I know of (first names unknown) who moved to
Germany.

Feivel WEISS married Batia and they had 6 children:
Adelle
Gitel
Rivka
Malka
Rose
Moshe

If anyone has any information on this family I would love to hear >from you.

Thanks very much.

Michael Trapunsky
Rego Park, NY
mtrap@...

Hi all,

I am doing research on the WEISS family >from Tarnow and Germany. Feivel
WEISS (my wife's great grandfather) lived in Tarnow in the late 1800's. He
had at least 2 brothers that I know of (first names unknown) who moved to
Germany.

Feivel WEISS married Batia and they had 6 children:
Adelle
Gitel
Rivka
Malka
Rose
Moshe

If anyone has any information on this family I would love to hear >from you.

Thanks very much.

Michael Trapunsky
Rego Park, NY
mtrap@...

Searching for SIGMUND (SIEGMUND) >from Bavaria. Albert SIGMUND came to US in
1841. Married Ella GOLDSCHMIDT. Settled in Baltimore. Occupation: Furrier.
Trying to trace where he came >from in Bavaria.. Also searching descendants
of his children:
1. William SIGMUND (b. 1848 in Baltimore) m.Addie ?
Albert born in Baltimore
Abraham born in Baltimore
Jeanette born in Baltimore
Herman born in Baltimore
2. Leopold (Leo) SIGMUND (b 1858 Baltimore) m. Claudia HIRSCH
Tracy E. born in Baltimore May 1890
T. Edna born in Baltimore 1902
A. Lloyd born in Baltimore 1903
3. Joseph SIGMUND (b. 1856 Baltimore) m. Emma GOLDMAN b. 1861, daughter or
Leman GOLDMAN and Henrietta ? (Entire family moved to DENVER)
Lenore R. born in Baltimore 1881; may have married ROTHENBERG
Celeste born in Baltimore 1885; m. ? DIAMOND
Marjorie born in Denver 1910
4. May SIGMUND (b. 1874 in Baltimore) m. Gerson CAHN (b. 3/1872)
Albert CAHN born in Baltimore 1899
5. Simon SIGMUND (b. 1852 in Baltimore) m. Helen C ? (b. 5/1866)
Harold born in Baltimore in 1892; went to NY

Roger D. Cibella and David F. Baron
Baroncibella@...
Goldschmidt/Goldsmith Family Tree page http://members.xoom.com/goldschmidt/

Searching for SIGMUND (SIEGMUND) >from Bavaria. Albert SIGMUND came to US in
1841. Married Ella GOLDSCHMIDT. Settled in Baltimore. Occupation: Furrier.
Trying to trace where he came >from in Bavaria.. Also searching descendants
of his children:
1. William SIGMUND (b. 1848 in Baltimore) m.Addie ?
Albert born in Baltimore
Abraham born in Baltimore
Jeanette born in Baltimore
Herman born in Baltimore
2. Leopold (Leo) SIGMUND (b 1858 Baltimore) m. Claudia HIRSCH
Tracy E. born in Baltimore May 1890
T. Edna born in Baltimore 1902
A. Lloyd born in Baltimore 1903
3. Joseph SIGMUND (b. 1856 Baltimore) m. Emma GOLDMAN b. 1861, daughter or
Leman GOLDMAN and Henrietta ? (Entire family moved to DENVER)
Lenore R. born in Baltimore 1881; may have married ROTHENBERG
Celeste born in Baltimore 1885; m. ? DIAMOND
Marjorie born in Denver 1910
4. May SIGMUND (b. 1874 in Baltimore) m. Gerson CAHN (b. 3/1872)
Albert CAHN born in Baltimore 1899
5. Simon SIGMUND (b. 1852 in Baltimore) m. Helen C ? (b. 5/1866)
Harold born in Baltimore in 1892; went to NY

Roger D. Cibella and David F. Baron
Baroncibella@...
Goldschmidt/Goldsmith Family Tree page http://members.xoom.com/goldschmidt/

Searching for KATZENSTEIN of Jesberg, Hesse Nassau Germany. Gerson
KATZENSTEIN b. 1815 came to Philadelphia in 1856. Married Eva Goldschmidt

from Oberlistingen. Gersons father RABBI ABRAHAM SCHOLUM HA KOHEN.

Searching for siblings of Gerson or his father.

Also possibly related to KATZENSTEINS of Grebenstein, Eschwege, and
Ziegenhain that are mixed throughout my GOLDSCHMIDT family.

Roger D. Cibella and David F. Baron
Baroncibella@...
Goldschmidt/Goldsmith Family Tree page http://members.xoom.com/goldschmidt/

Searching for KATZENSTEIN of Jesberg, Hesse Nassau Germany. Gerson
KATZENSTEIN b. 1815 came to Philadelphia in 1856. Married Eva Goldschmidt

from Oberlistingen. Gersons father RABBI ABRAHAM SCHOLUM HA KOHEN.

Searching for siblings of Gerson or his father.

Also possibly related to KATZENSTEINS of Grebenstein, Eschwege, and
Ziegenhain that are mixed throughout my GOLDSCHMIDT family.

Roger D. Cibella and David F. Baron
Baroncibella@...
Goldschmidt/Goldsmith Family Tree page http://members.xoom.com/goldschmidt/

Searching for SONNENSCHEIN/SPANYE of Hungary/Slovakia. Emanuel SONNENCSHEIN
m. niece Rose SONNENSCHEIN (b. 1838; d. 1931 in Lucenec, Slovakia), possibly

from Giraltovce, Slovakia. Children:

Clara b. 1863 m. Louis MARKUS (lived in Cleveland)
Bert (Berti) changed name to SPANYE b. 1868 m. Moynelle KATZENSTEIN
(lived in Cleveland)
Fanny m. Joseph FELEDE d. in Holocaust

Rose had brother Charles K. SUNSHINE b. 1858 m. Sara WISE? Marks? Lived in
Cleveland
No children

Searching for other cousins:

Ben and Zoltan SUNSHINE. Ben had a drug store in Cleveland; moved to
California. Zoltan moved to San Diego and opened a Dept. Store.
Amil SUNSHINE in lingerie business.
Saul SUNSHINE Progress Shirt Co.
Dave SUNSHINE
Sara SUNSHINE m. ? PROPER

Roger D. Cibella and David F. Baron
Baroncibella@...
Or see my family tree home page at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3521/

Searching for SONNENSCHEIN/SPANYE of Hungary/Slovakia. Emanuel SONNENCSHEIN
m. niece Rose SONNENSCHEIN (b. 1838; d. 1931 in Lucenec, Slovakia), possibly

from Giraltovce, Slovakia. Children:

Clara b. 1863 m. Louis MARKUS (lived in Cleveland)
Bert (Berti) changed name to SPANYE b. 1868 m. Moynelle KATZENSTEIN
(lived in Cleveland)
Fanny m. Joseph FELEDE d. in Holocaust

Rose had brother Charles K. SUNSHINE b. 1858 m. Sara WISE? Marks? Lived in
Cleveland
No children

Searching for other cousins:

Ben and Zoltan SUNSHINE. Ben had a drug store in Cleveland; moved to
California. Zoltan moved to San Diego and opened a Dept. Store.
Amil SUNSHINE in lingerie business.
Saul SUNSHINE Progress Shirt Co.
Dave SUNSHINE
Sara SUNSHINE m. ? PROPER

Roger D. Cibella and David F. Baron
Baroncibella@...
Or see my family tree home page at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3521/

The web site you quote is actually one done by a commercial organization.
Even in this precised document they point out that a wedding can be either
religious 0r civil but the religious weddings have to be carried out in a
approved building.
The handbook for marriage secretaries is much more explicit. It states
in the first paragraph that all purported wedding ceremonies have to be
registered.
Michael Slifkin
Jerusalem, Israel


Nick Landau wrote:

The current situation regarding all weddings in the UK is to be found
in this website:

http://www.weddings.co.uk/info/england.htm

Now it is possible to have a civil service in all manner of venues eg a
football stadium but this is a recent innovation. I believe that one of
the few or only groups allowed to have a wedding in the open until recently were the Jews.
I am fairly certain that before these changes that the option was either
to get married in a registry office (civil) or to marry under a religious
denomination.
My feeling is that if a denomination was not registered for marriages >that > the couple would have to marry in a registry office and then
presumably have their own ceremony later on in their religious premises.
Otherwise there would have been no possibility for new denominations to
arise able to carry out their own services. They clearly would not emerge
fully fledged ready to carry out authorised marriage services.
Nick

MODERATOR NOTE: All websites are checked by the moderator before
being approved for posting. After reading the above message, the
moderator had a second look at the site and confirms that it does
not appear to be a commercial site.

The web site you quote is actually one done by a commercial organization.
Even in this precised document they point out that a wedding can be either
religious 0r civil but the religious weddings have to be carried out in a
approved building.
The handbook for marriage secretaries is much more explicit. It states
in the first paragraph that all purported wedding ceremonies have to be
registered.
Michael Slifkin
Jerusalem, Israel


Nick Landau wrote:

The current situation regarding all weddings in the UK is to be found
in this website:

http://www.weddings.co.uk/info/england.htm

Now it is possible to have a civil service in all manner of venues eg a
football stadium but this is a recent innovation. I believe that one of
the few or only groups allowed to have a wedding in the open until recently were the Jews.
I am fairly certain that before these changes that the option was either
to get married in a registry office (civil) or to marry under a religious
denomination.
My feeling is that if a denomination was not registered for marriages >that > the couple would have to marry in a registry office and then
presumably have their own ceremony later on in their religious premises.
Otherwise there would have been no possibility for new denominations to
arise able to carry out their own services. They clearly would not emerge
fully fledged ready to carry out authorised marriage services.
Nick

MODERATOR NOTE: All websites are checked by the moderator before
being approved for posting. After reading the above message, the
moderator had a second look at the site and confirms that it does
not appear to be a commercial site.

"Gillian Zebaida" GILLZEB@... wrote:
There is this type of information in England.
The British Library has a large collection of old directories,
including some Vsia Russya.

BT Archives in High Holburn, London
(Tel helpdesk 0171 492 8792 fax 0171 242 1967)
hyda@...
may also have some old directories.

Dr Saul Issroff
JGSGB
http://www.ort.org/jgsgb

"Gillian Zebaida" GILLZEB@... wrote:
There is this type of information in England.
The British Library has a large collection of old directories,
including some Vsia Russya.

BT Archives in High Holburn, London
(Tel helpdesk 0171 492 8792 fax 0171 242 1967)
hyda@...
may also have some old directories.

Dr Saul Issroff
JGSGB
http://www.ort.org/jgsgb

Deborah Dworski, Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. asked on Mon, 23 Nov 1998,
Message number 19 of the digest, about "Eusher" Anschel (phonetic spelling).

Allowing for differences in pronunciation, it seems to me very likely that
his name was Asher Anschel, a reasonably common combination.

Beverley Davis
Melbourne, Australia

Deborah Dworski, Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. asked on Mon, 23 Nov 1998,
Message number 19 of the digest, about "Eusher" Anschel (phonetic spelling).

Allowing for differences in pronunciation, it seems to me very likely that
his name was Asher Anschel, a reasonably common combination.

Beverley Davis
Melbourne, Australia

Morris GLICK and Rose SCHORR were listed as witnesses on the draft of a
'Preliminary Form for Petition for Naturalization' which was prepared
for my great-uncle Samuel MAYER.

Uncle Samuel is deceased and I have no idea if the petition was ever
filed; the latest date on the draft is the date of his Declaration
(first paper) which is - July 11th 1922 - so the information on
the draft is presumeably >from some time after that date.

The indicated addresses of the proposed witnesses were:

Morris GLICK 1010 TrinityAve Bronx NY
Rose SCHORR 1299 Grand Concourse Bronx NY

Both these persons were probably related to his wife's family (her
maiden-name was SCHORR). Since she was my grandmother's sister, they and
their descendents would be related to me. I'd very much like to make
contact, if possible. Can anyone out there help?

Donald Richter

Researching: SCHORR, RICHTER, BLEIER, DRUMMER, ROTH
>from the region between, and about, what is now
TURULUNG, Romania and VINOGRADOV, Ukraine

Morris GLICK and Rose SCHORR were listed as witnesses on the draft of a
'Preliminary Form for Petition for Naturalization' which was prepared
for my great-uncle Samuel MAYER.

Uncle Samuel is deceased and I have no idea if the petition was ever
filed; the latest date on the draft is the date of his Declaration
(first paper) which is - July 11th 1922 - so the information on
the draft is presumeably >from some time after that date.

The indicated addresses of the proposed witnesses were:

Morris GLICK 1010 TrinityAve Bronx NY
Rose SCHORR 1299 Grand Concourse Bronx NY

Both these persons were probably related to his wife's family (her
maiden-name was SCHORR). Since she was my grandmother's sister, they and
their descendents would be related to me. I'd very much like to make
contact, if possible. Can anyone out there help?

Donald Richter

Researching: SCHORR, RICHTER, BLEIER, DRUMMER, ROTH
>from the region between, and about, what is now
TURULUNG, Romania and VINOGRADOV, Ukraine

Untill the end of WWI it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire

Shalom Mandelbaum


Brett Lieberman wrote:

Untill the end of WWI it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire

Shalom Mandelbaum


Brett Lieberman wrote:

Dear sir I am looking for someone of my family who is leeving in
usa:the JUNGMANN family came >from Brig and Breslau about 70 years ago

from Germany,my grandfather's brother was Solomon Salo, came to New York

and I know he had children : Jack, Jorge and Dina and they had children,
if you can help me to find them, I'll be very please.
Dori Jungmann

Dear sir I am looking for someone of my family who is leeving in
usa:the JUNGMANN family came >from Brig and Breslau about 70 years ago

from Germany,my grandfather's brother was Solomon Salo, came to New York

and I know he had children : Jack, Jorge and Dina and they had children,
if you can help me to find them, I'll be very please.
Dori Jungmann