I am currently in Poland and will visit the old synagogue
(Beit ha-Kneset ha-Godol) in Tykocin, arriving Friday 9/15
until 9/17, then briefly pass through Bialystok. Would be
grateful for any info regarding sabbath services in Tykocin
that weekend, and/or any local contact or reference point for
Jewish sites in Bialystok. Other suggestions also welcome of course.

with appreciation,

Ellen Mains
dranyen@...
# in Poland: +48 793 366 441

I am currently in Poland and will visit the old synagogue
(Beit ha-Kneset ha-Godol) in Tykocin, arriving Friday 9/15
until 9/17, then briefly pass through Bialystok. Would be
grateful for any info regarding sabbath services in Tykocin
that weekend, and/or any local contact or reference point for
Jewish sites in Bialystok. Other suggestions also welcome of course.

with appreciation,

Ellen Mains
dranyen@...
# in Poland: +48 793 366 441

There is a girls school with this name but not in Le Treport. They may
be able to tell you more about the school you are searching for :

Ecole de Jeunes Filles Beth Jacob
9 chemin de Saint Pol
FR - 73100
Aix les Bains

Eve Line Blum
Besancon (France)

There is a girls school with this name but not in Le Treport. They may
be able to tell you more about the school you are searching for :

Ecole de Jeunes Filles Beth Jacob
9 chemin de Saint Pol
FR - 73100
Aix les Bains

Eve Line Blum
Besancon (France)

I think I am going to visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and if I do I would
be happy to do research for people. The earliest I would go is September 10th
and of course that is weather dependent.

I maybe a little crazy but let's see how many people are looking for help at
Washington Cemetery. It is very large encompassing four separate areas as I
recall. I have not been there in a long time now. And when I go I don't have
helpers with me at the cemeteries.

Washington does not have a database as I recall either so everything has to be
done with the office which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at
some of the other cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have
and the kindness of the office.

If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and
call the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact
location of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered --
the plot name and location and any information they can give about the grave.

If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone sent
me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc.
for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no
one with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred
graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me
enough information.

I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is
when all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the
single person then.

I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help
offset the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these
trips so it helps me to keep doing this for everyone.

Allan Jordan

I think I am going to visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and if I do I would
be happy to do research for people. The earliest I would go is September 10th
and of course that is weather dependent.

I maybe a little crazy but let's see how many people are looking for help at
Washington Cemetery. It is very large encompassing four separate areas as I
recall. I have not been there in a long time now. And when I go I don't have
helpers with me at the cemeteries.

Washington does not have a database as I recall either so everything has to be
done with the office which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at
some of the other cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have
and the kindness of the office.

If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and
call the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact
location of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered --
the plot name and location and any information they can give about the grave.

If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone sent
me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc.
for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no
one with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred
graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me
enough information.

I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is
when all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the
single person then.

I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help
offset the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these
trips so it helps me to keep doing this for everyone.

Allan Jordan

I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone researching or related
to Sidney NASSENFELD born in Przmysel in 1897?

He arrived in the USA in 1913 as Samuel NASSENFELD, married Sadie ENTE in New
York in the 1920s and had two daughter Lenore born circa 1922 and Ethel Ann
born circa 1928.

Sidney Nassenfeld died in 1965 in New York.

Daughter Lenore appeared to have married names of Felder and Kelelrman and
died in 1994.

Daughter Ethel Ann appears to be married to a Meyrowitz later Morrow and died
in 2002.

Please contact me if you have information on Sidney NASSENFELD's life.

Thank you.

Allan Jordan

I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone researching or related
to Sidney NASSENFELD born in Przmysel in 1897?

He arrived in the USA in 1913 as Samuel NASSENFELD, married Sadie ENTE in New
York in the 1920s and had two daughter Lenore born circa 1922 and Ethel Ann
born circa 1928.

Sidney Nassenfeld died in 1965 in New York.

Daughter Lenore appeared to have married names of Felder and Kelelrman and
died in 1994.

Daughter Ethel Ann appears to be married to a Meyrowitz later Morrow and died
in 2002.

Please contact me if you have information on Sidney NASSENFELD's life.

Thank you.

Allan Jordan

Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access
is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time.

To view the list of records in the featured collections go to:
http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day

You will be required to register. No credit card information will be
requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day
If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try
to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe.

The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on
that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a
print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any
other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a
FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe.

I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access
is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time.

To view the list of records in the featured collections go to:
http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day

You will be required to register. No credit card information will be
requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day
If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try
to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe.

The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on
that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a
print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any
other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a
FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe.

I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Dear Genners

Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files
of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ?

They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg,
Southampton to South America.

I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking.

I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked
in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923.

Thanks in advance.
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Dear Genners

Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files
of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ?

They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg,
Southampton to South America.

I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking.

I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked
in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923.

Thanks in advance.
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina

I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot
be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22
chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think
there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with
three different kits.

Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have
already deleted and uploaded the kits.

Linda Berkowitz
Deerfield, IL

I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot
be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22
chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think
there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with
three different kits.

Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have
already deleted and uploaded the kits.

Linda Berkowitz
Deerfield, IL

Hi all,

Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many
of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms,
Germany. Please help me understand the following about the
OPPENHEIMERs:

1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about
Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary
listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of
Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and
one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to
Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate
the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer &
Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations.
Where is the source for doing so?

2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two
major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in
the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about
that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s)
and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of
even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands
to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier
Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the
first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any
OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family?

Thank you for your help. I will ask about my BALLIN issues in a subsequent post.

David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@...

Hi all,

Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many
of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms,
Germany. Please help me understand the following about the
OPPENHEIMERs:

1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about
Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary
listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of
Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and
one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to
Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate
the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer &
Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations.
Where is the source for doing so?

2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two
major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in
the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about
that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s)
and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of
even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands
to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier
Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the
first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any
OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family?

Thank you for your help. I will ask about my BALLIN issues in a subsequent post.

David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@...

Israel Pickholtz shows one unique way that a false positive might occur.
This emphasizes why an approach based on the statistically expected amount
of shared DNA can never give a certain answer.
I've also been surprised with negative DNA results in cases where lots of
circumstantial evidence seems to show a definite relationship. I suspect
that a lot of that may be due to orphans gratefully adopting the surnames of
the family that took them in. After all, with the wars and epidemics that
were prevalent in Europe, there must have been many cases of informal
adoption.

Michael Goldsmith
Michaelg32@...

Israel Pickholtz shows one unique way that a false positive might occur.
This emphasizes why an approach based on the statistically expected amount
of shared DNA can never give a certain answer.
I've also been surprised with negative DNA results in cases where lots of
circumstantial evidence seems to show a definite relationship. I suspect
that a lot of that may be due to orphans gratefully adopting the surnames of
the family that took them in. After all, with the wars and epidemics that
were prevalent in Europe, there must have been many cases of informal
adoption.

Michael Goldsmith
Michaelg32@...

Hello Genners,

I am trying to make a connection with Michele whose maiden name is Becker and
her husband's name is Scott. She made a contact with my second cousin who is
a Becker. His grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister.

Our great grandfather had a brother who was Max or Michael. That might be the
link to Michele. I have many brick wall questions about Michael's family.

I have posted a message to Michele via Ancestry's message function but have
not yet received a response.

All assistance is greatly appreciated,

Walter Spector
Philadelphia

Hello Genners,

I am trying to make a connection with Michele whose maiden name is Becker and
her husband's name is Scott. She made a contact with my second cousin who is
a Becker. His grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister.

Our great grandfather had a brother who was Max or Michael. That might be the
link to Michele. I have many brick wall questions about Michael's family.

I have posted a message to Michele via Ancestry's message function but have
not yet received a response.

All assistance is greatly appreciated,

Walter Spector
Philadelphia