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Belarus Geographic Questions #belarus

Martin Fischer
 

Moderator,

This is my first posting to the Belarus SIG.
According to a couple old family trees >from my wife's family, her
LEVIN ancestors came >from a place called either Palopokow, Malow,
Russia, or Palupska, Mvolov, Russia. I have tried several atlas sources,
both printed and on-line, but have been unable to find anything like
these names. Does anyone know what they are now called and where are
they located?
(I suspect the place may be in the Mogilev gubernia because some
deceased members of the family are buried in a part of the Waldheim
Cemetery in Forest Park, IL., that is identified as a Mogilov
landsmanshaften cemetery.}
Another part of my wife's family, named SERLIN, TSERLIN or ZAIRLIN,
according to an old family tree, came >from Rossna (formerly Petree),
Mogolov. The ShtetlSeeker on the JewishGen site lists Rasna (Ryasno),
Rossono (Rossony) and Rozhno, all three at different distances and
directions >from Minsk. Does anyone know which of these three locations
was formerly known as Petree?
Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,
Martin Fischer
Oak Park, IL.

Researching:
In Mogilev: Bessie, Yaakov and Samuel SERLIN, TSERLIN or ZAIRLIN.
In Belarus: Jacob Samuel LEVIN, Menachem Mendel LEVIN, Yaakov LEVIN.
In Minsk and Kiev: Leib LEVIK, Jana (Chana) OSTROWSKA, Abraham LEVIK and
Rebekah LEVIK and Isaac LEVIN (changed name >from LEVIK).
In Pinsk: Avraham Moshe KAGAN and Rabbi Eliezar KAGAN.
In Motol: Shraga Feivel STEINBERG, Sarah Feigel STEINBERG, Osher
STEINBERG and a Steinberg brother who changed his last name to
LIFSCHITZ.
In Pinsk and Minsk: Moshe KOLODNY.

Moderator's Note: Can someone try and help Martin?


Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarus Geographic Questions #belarus

Martin Fischer
 

Moderator,

This is my first posting to the Belarus SIG.
According to a couple old family trees >from my wife's family, her
LEVIN ancestors came >from a place called either Palopokow, Malow,
Russia, or Palupska, Mvolov, Russia. I have tried several atlas sources,
both printed and on-line, but have been unable to find anything like
these names. Does anyone know what they are now called and where are
they located?
(I suspect the place may be in the Mogilev gubernia because some
deceased members of the family are buried in a part of the Waldheim
Cemetery in Forest Park, IL., that is identified as a Mogilov
landsmanshaften cemetery.}
Another part of my wife's family, named SERLIN, TSERLIN or ZAIRLIN,
according to an old family tree, came >from Rossna (formerly Petree),
Mogolov. The ShtetlSeeker on the JewishGen site lists Rasna (Ryasno),
Rossono (Rossony) and Rozhno, all three at different distances and
directions >from Minsk. Does anyone know which of these three locations
was formerly known as Petree?
Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,
Martin Fischer
Oak Park, IL.

Researching:
In Mogilev: Bessie, Yaakov and Samuel SERLIN, TSERLIN or ZAIRLIN.
In Belarus: Jacob Samuel LEVIN, Menachem Mendel LEVIN, Yaakov LEVIN.
In Minsk and Kiev: Leib LEVIK, Jana (Chana) OSTROWSKA, Abraham LEVIK and
Rebekah LEVIK and Isaac LEVIN (changed name >from LEVIK).
In Pinsk: Avraham Moshe KAGAN and Rabbi Eliezar KAGAN.
In Motol: Shraga Feivel STEINBERG, Sarah Feigel STEINBERG, Osher
STEINBERG and a Steinberg brother who changed his last name to
LIFSCHITZ.
In Pinsk and Minsk: Moshe KOLODNY.

Moderator's Note: Can someone try and help Martin?


Re: Minsk Hist. Geneaology Project #belarus

Errol Feldman <boaz@...>
 

And me

Errol Feldman


Edward G. Cohen, Long Beach,NY Wrote:

If Oleg of the Minsk Historical Genealogy can produce a web site for
Belarus similar to the Bobruisk site, it seems to me to be a very
worthwhile investment. What must be clarified at the start is a list of
the shtetlikh which will be included. I too would gladly contribute $50
for this project. Please advise if I can be of further assistance.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Minsk Hist. Geneaology Project #belarus

Errol Feldman <boaz@...>
 

And me

Errol Feldman


Edward G. Cohen, Long Beach,NY Wrote:

If Oleg of the Minsk Historical Genealogy can produce a web site for
Belarus similar to the Bobruisk site, it seems to me to be a very
worthwhile investment. What must be clarified at the start is a list of
the shtetlikh which will be included. I too would gladly contribute $50
for this project. Please advise if I can be of further assistance.


Re: Specify minsk Gubernia or District. #belarus

cohentalk@...
 

I just finished reading Vitaly Charny's post. Is it referring to Minsk
District or Minsk Gubernia? I didn't realize the need to have this specified
until I read the emails between Oleg and Dave regarding the Minsk research
update.

Thank you very much,
Linda Cohen
cohentalk@...
MichiganUSA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Specify minsk Gubernia or District. #belarus

cohentalk@...
 

I just finished reading Vitaly Charny's post. Is it referring to Minsk
District or Minsk Gubernia? I didn't realize the need to have this specified
until I read the emails between Oleg and Dave regarding the Minsk research
update.

Thank you very much,
Linda Cohen
cohentalk@...
MichiganUSA


* Links to Hungarian naming customs #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

I just stumbled in a very interesting site:

http://www.us.itd.umich.edu/~ximenez/s.gabriel/docs/index.html

It contains links to 4 pages which discuss the Hungarian Jewish naming
customs at lenght. Enjoy.

Tom



Hungarian Names 101, by Brian Speer (Walraven van Nijmegen). The best guide
to coming up with a Hungarian name, with information on the history and
structure of names and name lists for a variety of periods.

Hungarian Women's Names, by Brian Speer (Walraven van Nijmege). Names over
over 600 women, mostly >from the 16th century, taken >from a Hungarian
dictionary of names.

16th Century Hungarian Names, by Brian Speer (Walraven van Nijmege). An
extensive article on late-period Hungarian naming, with a name list.

Bibliography for Hungarian Names


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Links to Hungarian naming customs #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

I just stumbled in a very interesting site:

http://www.us.itd.umich.edu/~ximenez/s.gabriel/docs/index.html

It contains links to 4 pages which discuss the Hungarian Jewish naming
customs at lenght. Enjoy.

Tom



Hungarian Names 101, by Brian Speer (Walraven van Nijmegen). The best guide
to coming up with a Hungarian name, with information on the history and
structure of names and name lists for a variety of periods.

Hungarian Women's Names, by Brian Speer (Walraven van Nijmege). Names over
over 600 women, mostly >from the 16th century, taken >from a Hungarian
dictionary of names.

16th Century Hungarian Names, by Brian Speer (Walraven van Nijmege). An
extensive article on late-period Hungarian naming, with a name list.

Bibliography for Hungarian Names


Popervale #latvia

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

Dear Latvia SIG members:

A few months ago we posted a singular work, called Popervale (Poperwahlen,
Dunangen), Latvia, on the Yizkor Book web site. This unpublished
manuscript on the forced labor camp KZ-Lager Poperwahlen, Latvia, was
written and donated by L. M. Bruyn. Click on
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html> and scroll down to
Popervale. You are in for an unusual experience.

I wrote the following in the Preface to this document:

" Upon the suggestion of Leonard Preger of Mendele, the author wrote to us
and asked if we might be interested in putting this [document ] on the
yizkor book web site. This work has not been published, but photocopies
have been distributed to a few persons and organizations. The author's
sole intent in writing to us was to get the story of Poperwhalen known."

Lucas Bruyn wrote the following introduction to the document:

"While on a one year stay in Latvia, the writer was asked by a survivor of
the forced labour camp, KZ-Lager Popperwahlen, if he could provide any
information concerning Dutch labourers who had been in the camp >from 1943
until the end of the war. A request for information sent to the Institute
for War Documentation of the Netherlands. The response was disappointing,
no documents or studies on the subject were found in the archives of the
Institute.

Eventually the writer obtained some information about the camp through
other channels. These confirmed the presence of Dutch in Popperwahlen and
other places in Latvia and explained their status. They had been sent out
by a Dutch organisation, the Nederlandsche Oost Bouw (Dutch East Building
Company : N.O.B.), either as volunteers or as forced labourers. Armed with
this information the writer once again approached the Institute. He
discovered that the archives of the N.O.B. were in Amsterdam.

The first part of the study, Popperwahlen, was written in Latvia, based on
information gathered through correspondence and during field trips to the
location of the camp. Besides stating the few facts available it describes
the difficulties encountered by an amateur historian trying to uncover
facts about an episode in Dutch history which is not very popular in
Holland itself. The reminiscences of the survivor's own experiences of the
camp are also included.

After returning to the Netherlands the writer visited the archives of the
Institute for War Documentation as well as that of the Ministry of Justice.
Lack of time and resources limited the research to a few of visits, while
the amount of material proved to be large. Some facts and numbers
indicating the scope of the Dutch involvement of the German Ostland-Politik
were collected and put into an appendix to the original article, together
with suggestions and sources for further research."

I hope you will be sufficiently intrigued by Mr. Bruyn's introduction to
read the entire document.

Joyce Field
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project





JOYCE FIELD
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project


Latvia SIG #Latvia Popervale #latvia

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

Dear Latvia SIG members:

A few months ago we posted a singular work, called Popervale (Poperwahlen,
Dunangen), Latvia, on the Yizkor Book web site. This unpublished
manuscript on the forced labor camp KZ-Lager Poperwahlen, Latvia, was
written and donated by L. M. Bruyn. Click on
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html> and scroll down to
Popervale. You are in for an unusual experience.

I wrote the following in the Preface to this document:

" Upon the suggestion of Leonard Preger of Mendele, the author wrote to us
and asked if we might be interested in putting this [document ] on the
yizkor book web site. This work has not been published, but photocopies
have been distributed to a few persons and organizations. The author's
sole intent in writing to us was to get the story of Poperwhalen known."

Lucas Bruyn wrote the following introduction to the document:

"While on a one year stay in Latvia, the writer was asked by a survivor of
the forced labour camp, KZ-Lager Popperwahlen, if he could provide any
information concerning Dutch labourers who had been in the camp >from 1943
until the end of the war. A request for information sent to the Institute
for War Documentation of the Netherlands. The response was disappointing,
no documents or studies on the subject were found in the archives of the
Institute.

Eventually the writer obtained some information about the camp through
other channels. These confirmed the presence of Dutch in Popperwahlen and
other places in Latvia and explained their status. They had been sent out
by a Dutch organisation, the Nederlandsche Oost Bouw (Dutch East Building
Company : N.O.B.), either as volunteers or as forced labourers. Armed with
this information the writer once again approached the Institute. He
discovered that the archives of the N.O.B. were in Amsterdam.

The first part of the study, Popperwahlen, was written in Latvia, based on
information gathered through correspondence and during field trips to the
location of the camp. Besides stating the few facts available it describes
the difficulties encountered by an amateur historian trying to uncover
facts about an episode in Dutch history which is not very popular in
Holland itself. The reminiscences of the survivor's own experiences of the
camp are also included.

After returning to the Netherlands the writer visited the archives of the
Institute for War Documentation as well as that of the Ministry of Justice.
Lack of time and resources limited the research to a few of visits, while
the amount of material proved to be large. Some facts and numbers
indicating the scope of the Dutch involvement of the German Ostland-Politik
were collected and put into an appendix to the original article, together
with suggestions and sources for further research."

I hope you will be sufficiently intrigued by Mr. Bruyn's introduction to
read the entire document.

Joyce Field
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project





JOYCE FIELD
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project


Los Angeles #hungary

melody gross <melody@...>
 

Could anyone living in or near LA possibly help me in locating Ms. Cata
(Cato) Schreiber, formerly of Stropkov, Slovakia?

Her phone number may be:

(310) 473-9991

Perhaps other C. Schriebers are listed in the LA phonebook, should this not
be the correct one.

Much appreciated,


Melody Amsel Gross
melody@...
researching:
AMSEL/Stropkov, Humenne, Zbudska Bela (Bela),Michalovce, Olka -- Slovakia
and anywhere
RITTER,BAUM/Stropkov, Okruhle, Ladomirova -- Slovakia
LANDAU, BECKER/Humenne -- Slovakia
ZAZULIA,BECKER,MORGENSTERN, POLLACK/Klishkivitz, Navastelet, Chotin --
Bessarabia
EINSTEIN/Radomyshl -- Galicia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Los Angeles #hungary

melody gross <melody@...>
 

Could anyone living in or near LA possibly help me in locating Ms. Cata
(Cato) Schreiber, formerly of Stropkov, Slovakia?

Her phone number may be:

(310) 473-9991

Perhaps other C. Schriebers are listed in the LA phonebook, should this not
be the correct one.

Much appreciated,


Melody Amsel Gross
melody@...
researching:
AMSEL/Stropkov, Humenne, Zbudska Bela (Bela),Michalovce, Olka -- Slovakia
and anywhere
RITTER,BAUM/Stropkov, Okruhle, Ladomirova -- Slovakia
LANDAU, BECKER/Humenne -- Slovakia
ZAZULIA,BECKER,MORGENSTERN, POLLACK/Klishkivitz, Navastelet, Chotin --
Bessarabia
EINSTEIN/Radomyshl -- Galicia


Re: LDS Information #hungary

PARC313@...
 

In a message dated 8/28/98 7:05:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
patjw28@... writes:

<< I believe it is possible to purchase by SECTIONS the LDS International
Genealogical Index in MICROFICHE form only. I believe the same can be said
about the Family History Catalog. You would have to contact the Family
History Department, Attn: Family History Support, 50 East North Temple
Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 or 1-800-346-6044. I'm sure they could
direct your question to the correct department.

Pat
Genealogy forever--Housework hardly ever!
>>
Hi Pat:

Thanks for the LDS information.

By the way, I love your motto. If you don't mind, I'm going to plagiarize it,
since I feel exactly the same. : - ) If you have a problem with that, please
let me know.

Phyllis Auspitz Cohen
Pennsylvania, USA

Researching: AUSPITZ
GROSNOFF
ZELKOWITZ


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: LDS Information #hungary

PARC313@...
 

In a message dated 8/28/98 7:05:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
patjw28@... writes:

<< I believe it is possible to purchase by SECTIONS the LDS International
Genealogical Index in MICROFICHE form only. I believe the same can be said
about the Family History Catalog. You would have to contact the Family
History Department, Attn: Family History Support, 50 East North Temple
Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 or 1-800-346-6044. I'm sure they could
direct your question to the correct department.

Pat
Genealogy forever--Housework hardly ever!
>>
Hi Pat:

Thanks for the LDS information.

By the way, I love your motto. If you don't mind, I'm going to plagiarize it,
since I feel exactly the same. : - ) If you have a problem with that, please
let me know.

Phyllis Auspitz Cohen
Pennsylvania, USA

Researching: AUSPITZ
GROSNOFF
ZELKOWITZ


Re: The name list #hungary

PARC313@...
 

Hi Susanna,

I received your fax yesterday with the names I requested. I'm hoping that a
friend of mine will be able to translate for me. I very much appreciate your
help.

If and when I get it translated, I'll send it to you if you would like to have
it. Please let me know.

Thank you so very, very much. : - )

Phyllis Auspitz Cohen
Pennsylvania, USA

Researching: AUSPITZ & GROSNOFF


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: The name list #hungary

PARC313@...
 

Hi Susanna,

I received your fax yesterday with the names I requested. I'm hoping that a
friend of mine will be able to translate for me. I very much appreciate your
help.

If and when I get it translated, I'll send it to you if you would like to have
it. Please let me know.

Thank you so very, very much. : - )

Phyllis Auspitz Cohen
Pennsylvania, USA

Researching: AUSPITZ & GROSNOFF


1)The Jews of Hungary book. 2) About TE VAGY A TANU! #hungary

Stefano Groszy <steven@...>
 

1)I accept $38 new price + shipping to Europe. Thank you, Louis.
2)For you have the TE VAGY A TANU! and due to the fact I can't
understand hungarian I have three questions, might be you can solve:
-a- are there only Jewish people on that list, or also
gentile partisans (the book seems sponsored by the communist
party, as explained to me by David Gordon)?
-b- are over it shown only people that survived the holocaust, or
both murdered and survived persons?
-c- due to the fact that people perished in the hungarian
holocaust were several hundred thousands, which sense can have
this 3900 names list?
Best regards, Steven.


TE VAGI A TANU! #hungary

Stefano Groszy <steven@...>
 

There are three Donath in this book:
- Don=E0th Lajos, kereskedo, Budapest
- Don=E0th Miksa, kereskedo, T=E9t
- Don=E0th Salamon, kereskedo, Bonyh=E0d
Ciao, Steven.


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1)The Jews of Hungary book. 2) About TE VAGY A TANU! #hungary

Stefano Groszy <steven@...>
 

1)I accept $38 new price + shipping to Europe. Thank you, Louis.
2)For you have the TE VAGY A TANU! and due to the fact I can't
understand hungarian I have three questions, might be you can solve:
-a- are there only Jewish people on that list, or also
gentile partisans (the book seems sponsored by the communist
party, as explained to me by David Gordon)?
-b- are over it shown only people that survived the holocaust, or
both murdered and survived persons?
-c- due to the fact that people perished in the hungarian
holocaust were several hundred thousands, which sense can have
this 3900 names list?
Best regards, Steven.


Hungary SIG #Hungary TE VAGI A TANU! #hungary

Stefano Groszy <steven@...>
 

There are three Donath in this book:
- Don=E0th Lajos, kereskedo, Budapest
- Don=E0th Miksa, kereskedo, T=E9t
- Don=E0th Salamon, kereskedo, Bonyh=E0d
Ciao, Steven.