Scans of all BMD records for the Jewish communities of Bobrowniki and
Irena for the years 1869-1913 are available online >from the Polish State
Archives:

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1615/0/3#tabJednostki

All records >from this period were kept in Russian, so if you can make
your way in written Russian you may be able to find what you're
looking for. I've just had a quick look through the indexes,
around the dates Susan has suggested, but I can't see any
Eberbuch births between 1880-1899. Maybe her birth was registered in one
of the other communities mentioned by Robinn.

One thing I did notice was a number of "batch" registrations,
where several children >from one family were registered at
one go. My own grandmother was registered here several years late. So
they may not necessarily be registered in their birth year. I have also
spotted a few Zylberberg births amongst these records - maybe the
marriage record is there too - Susan, do you know when Frajda and her
husband married? Or when the first child was born?

Another thought is that the interconnections Robinn mentions also extend
across the river >from Irena, to the towns of Gniewoszow and Granica,
which are in Radom province, so their records are in Radom Archives
rather than Lublin. Some of my Waksmans moved >from Gniewoszow to Irena,
and some to Lublin.

Best of luck in your search, Susan!

Michael

--------------------
Michael Shade
Brighton, UK
michael@...
http://twentyone-seven.blogspot.co.uk/

Researching: SCHREIBMAN (Pinsk); ILYUTOVICH (Lida, Novogrudok, Gomel);
ZATURENSKY (Nesvizh ?); LEVIN (Streshin, Gomel); FRANKENSTEIN (Gombin,
Plock); FINKELSTEIN (Gombin, Tel Aviv); ZEGELMAN (Slubice); KOHN
(Nadarzyn); IGLA (Nadarzyn); WAKSMAN (Demblin-Irena,
Gniewoszow-Granica); SZECHTMAN (Bobrowniki); GLASMAN, GLUZMAN
(Demblin-Irena); LENDENBAUM (Bobrowniki); ELBSZTAJN (Bobrowniki);
EJZENSTADT (Gniewoszow-Granica); LEFSHITZ (Zhuravichy); ALIEVSKY
(Zhuravichy); SZWARC (Gombin, Panama, New Jersey), SCHWARTZ (London,
Leeds); RAJN (Gombin); BOLL (Gombin); MANCZIK (Gombin); FEIGENBAUM
(Mlawa); WANDT (Gostynin); SZCZAWINSKA (Gombin); WAYNBERG (London);
FLORKIEWICZ (Gombin, USA); CHERN (Poland)

On 31 Oct 2016, at 14:32, Robinn F Magid RobinnM@...

<jri-pl@...> wrote:

Susan Welsh posted a great question on this digest. She wrote:

"I'm trying to find the birth certificate of my grandmother, Lieba
Eberbuch, and some of her siblings. She was born in Demblin/Deblin,
Poland, when it was known as Ivangorod, sometime circa 1885 - 1895. I
am also looking for the death certificate of her mother, Frajdla
(nee Zylberberg) Eberbuch who died around 1895, probably in the Lublin

area.

I haven't been able to locate these records. Does anyone have any

ideas

where else to search? I'm not sure records for this period were

stored."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Jewish Communities of Ivanogorod, Deblin/Demblin, Irena, Ryki and
Bobrowniki in the Lublin Area have a complicated and interwoven
recorded history which is too complicated to explain here, but the
place of civil registration for these communities appears to move
around these towns throughout the 19th century and a complete
exploration of any of these towns requires the complete exploration
of all of these towns.

JRI-Poland has several projects in process to extract the records for
these towns, and the projects are in varying stages of development,
depending on the number of volunteers and amount of donations we have
for these projects.

Please contact me, at RobinnM@... for more detailed information
or to learn how you can help.

Robinn Magid
Berkeley, California
Lublin Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

RobinnM@...

Hello everyone

I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently in
town Korolovka between the two world wars.

How do I find out where recorded and stored records of Korolovka at
all and in particular in those years?

Many thanks in advance
David Nesher
Israel

Scans of all BMD records for the Jewish communities of Bobrowniki and
Irena for the years 1869-1913 are available online >from the Polish State
Archives:

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1615/0/3#tabJednostki

All records >from this period were kept in Russian, so if you can make
your way in written Russian you may be able to find what you're
looking for. I've just had a quick look through the indexes,
around the dates Susan has suggested, but I can't see any
Eberbuch births between 1880-1899. Maybe her birth was registered in one
of the other communities mentioned by Robinn.

One thing I did notice was a number of "batch" registrations,
where several children >from one family were registered at
one go. My own grandmother was registered here several years late. So
they may not necessarily be registered in their birth year. I have also
spotted a few Zylberberg births amongst these records - maybe the
marriage record is there too - Susan, do you know when Frajda and her
husband married? Or when the first child was born?

Another thought is that the interconnections Robinn mentions also extend
across the river >from Irena, to the towns of Gniewoszow and Granica,
which are in Radom province, so their records are in Radom Archives
rather than Lublin. Some of my Waksmans moved >from Gniewoszow to Irena,
and some to Lublin.

Best of luck in your search, Susan!

Michael

--------------------
Michael Shade
Brighton, UK
michael@...
http://twentyone-seven.blogspot.co.uk/

Researching: SCHREIBMAN (Pinsk); ILYUTOVICH (Lida, Novogrudok, Gomel);
ZATURENSKY (Nesvizh ?); LEVIN (Streshin, Gomel); FRANKENSTEIN (Gombin,
Plock); FINKELSTEIN (Gombin, Tel Aviv); ZEGELMAN (Slubice); KOHN
(Nadarzyn); IGLA (Nadarzyn); WAKSMAN (Demblin-Irena,
Gniewoszow-Granica); SZECHTMAN (Bobrowniki); GLASMAN, GLUZMAN
(Demblin-Irena); LENDENBAUM (Bobrowniki); ELBSZTAJN (Bobrowniki);
EJZENSTADT (Gniewoszow-Granica); LEFSHITZ (Zhuravichy); ALIEVSKY
(Zhuravichy); SZWARC (Gombin, Panama, New Jersey), SCHWARTZ (London,
Leeds); RAJN (Gombin); BOLL (Gombin); MANCZIK (Gombin); FEIGENBAUM
(Mlawa); WANDT (Gostynin); SZCZAWINSKA (Gombin); WAYNBERG (London);
FLORKIEWICZ (Gombin, USA); CHERN (Poland)

On 31 Oct 2016, at 14:32, Robinn F Magid RobinnM@...

<jri-pl@...> wrote:

Susan Welsh posted a great question on this digest. She wrote:

"I'm trying to find the birth certificate of my grandmother, Lieba
Eberbuch, and some of her siblings. She was born in Demblin/Deblin,
Poland, when it was known as Ivangorod, sometime circa 1885 - 1895. I
am also looking for the death certificate of her mother, Frajdla
(nee Zylberberg) Eberbuch who died around 1895, probably in the Lublin

area.

I haven't been able to locate these records. Does anyone have any

ideas

where else to search? I'm not sure records for this period were

stored."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Jewish Communities of Ivanogorod, Deblin/Demblin, Irena, Ryki and
Bobrowniki in the Lublin Area have a complicated and interwoven
recorded history which is too complicated to explain here, but the
place of civil registration for these communities appears to move
around these towns throughout the 19th century and a complete
exploration of any of these towns requires the complete exploration
of all of these towns.

JRI-Poland has several projects in process to extract the records for
these towns, and the projects are in varying stages of development,
depending on the number of volunteers and amount of donations we have
for these projects.

Please contact me, at RobinnM@... for more detailed information
or to learn how you can help.

Robinn Magid
Berkeley, California
Lublin Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

RobinnM@...

Hello everyone

I am looking for death registration of Judah Kahn, died apparently in
town Korolovka between the two world wars.

How do I find out where recorded and stored records of Korolovka at
all and in particular in those years?

Many thanks in advance
David Nesher
Israel

The Canadian Letters and Images Project is an online archive of the Canadian
war experience->from any war-as told through letters and images of Canadians
themselves. The project began in 2000 and is located in the Department of
History at Vancouver Island University (VIU). Contemporary letters, diaries
and photographs are digitized permitting Canadians to tell their story
through words and photographs. This is the largest such collection online in
Canada. As the materials are >from individuals it is not available anywhere
else. There are about 20,000 letters and growing.

A YouTube video about the project may be viewed at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0g2VFdYfIg

Because the documents are digitized the originals are not kept-they only
want to borrow any correspondence diaries, photographs or other personal
materials connected to Canadians at war, home front and battlefront. The
project will make arrangements-at their expense-to have any materials picked
up and returned by courier to ensure the safety of these materials. They
will digitize the materials in their entirety no editing of the materials.

To search the site go to: http://canadianletters.ca/search/site

If you are interested in sharing your family war memories of letters,
diaries etc. see: http://canadianletters.ca/content/about-us and scroll
down to the "contact us" portion. The materials have to be about Canadians,
but anyone, located outside of Canada as well as within Canada may
contribute the letters, diaries and other memorabilia.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

The Canadian Letters and Images Project is an online archive of the Canadian
war experience->from any war-as told through letters and images of Canadians
themselves. The project began in 2000 and is located in the Department of
History at Vancouver Island University (VIU). Contemporary letters, diaries
and photographs are digitized permitting Canadians to tell their story
through words and photographs. This is the largest such collection online in
Canada. As the materials are >from individuals it is not available anywhere
else. There are about 20,000 letters and growing.

A YouTube video about the project may be viewed at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0g2VFdYfIg

Because the documents are digitized the originals are not kept-they only
want to borrow any correspondence diaries, photographs or other personal
materials connected to Canadians at war, home front and battlefront. The
project will make arrangements-at their expense-to have any materials picked
up and returned by courier to ensure the safety of these materials. They
will digitize the materials in their entirety no editing of the materials.

To search the site go to: http://canadianletters.ca/search/site

If you are interested in sharing your family war memories of letters,
diaries etc. see: http://canadianletters.ca/content/about-us and scroll
down to the "contact us" portion. The materials have to be about Canadians,
but anyone, located outside of Canada as well as within Canada may
contribute the letters, diaries and other memorabilia.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

The (US) Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, updated its
website home page on 1 November. The new home page will regularly change the
featured content. Currently their collection of over 6,000 photochrome
prints is featured. Got to: https://www.loc.gov/

They also have a "trending" section on the new home page and topics...the
one on far right as looking at the screen is genealogy. By clicking on
"genealogy" you are taken to their genealogy section : The Library of
Congress has one of the world's premier collections of U.S. and foreign
genealogical and local historical publications. The Library's genealogy
collection began as early as 1815 when Thomas Jefferson's library was
purchased.

To look at the listing of research centers at the Library of Congress go to:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

The (US) Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, updated its
website home page on 1 November. The new home page will regularly change the
featured content. Currently their collection of over 6,000 photochrome
prints is featured. Got to: https://www.loc.gov/

They also have a "trending" section on the new home page and topics...the
one on far right as looking at the screen is genealogy. By clicking on
"genealogy" you are taken to their genealogy section : The Library of
Congress has one of the world's premier collections of U.S. and foreign
genealogical and local historical publications. The Library's genealogy
collection began as early as 1815 when Thomas Jefferson's library was
purchased.

To look at the listing of research centers at the Library of Congress go to:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

In preparation for Remembrance Day, Forces War Records has created a
Dedication Wall where you may upload a photograph and post a lasting
dedication to your ancestor. You will be able to share the dedication by
social media and links, not just for Remembrance Day but forever. This is a
way to commemorate those who fought and lost their lives during wartime.
The "Wall" is currently active for searching and uploading your ancestor's
information. Go to:
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/forces-war-records-dedication-wall

Upload your ancestor's photograph and include your "short" dedication and
then share it with your family and friends. There is a "form" to complete
for the uploading where you place the person's first name, surname. Military
information (service/rank); your dedication.

It is required for you to register with Forces War Records. It is free and
no credit card information is required. Provide your name, email address and
password only.
To register Go to: https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/
on the link in the upper right hand corner.

Forces War records also has a free download Remembrance Day Special Edition
which may be obtained by going to:
http://forces-war-records.s3.amazonaws.com/Marketing/Remembrance+Special+edition+2016.pdf
[or http://tinyurl.com/junsq9k --Mod.]

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

In preparation for Remembrance Day, Forces War Records has created a
Dedication Wall where you may upload a photograph and post a lasting
dedication to your ancestor. You will be able to share the dedication by
social media and links, not just for Remembrance Day but forever. This is a
way to commemorate those who fought and lost their lives during wartime.
The "Wall" is currently active for searching and uploading your ancestor's
information. Go to:
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/forces-war-records-dedication-wall

Upload your ancestor's photograph and include your "short" dedication and
then share it with your family and friends. There is a "form" to complete
for the uploading where you place the person's first name, surname. Military
information (service/rank); your dedication.

It is required for you to register with Forces War Records. It is free and
no credit card information is required. Provide your name, email address and
password only.
To register Go to: https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/
on the link in the upper right hand corner.

Forces War records also has a free download Remembrance Day Special Edition
which may be obtained by going to:
http://forces-war-records.s3.amazonaws.com/Marketing/Remembrance+Special+edition+2016.pdf
[or http://tinyurl.com/junsq9k --Mod.]

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island (JGSLI), winner of the IAJGS
2015 Outstanding Publication Award for its You Tube Channel, is pleased to
announce its latest video, "How Form SS-5 Can Help Break through Your
Research Brick Walls".

Federal Form SS-5, the Application for Social Security Number, may prove to
be a gem of a document. We all know how challenging it can be to determine
married women's maiden names. This form is a unique document since it
contains surname information that can link together a woman's married and
maiden name. In addition, the form reports the employee's parents' names,
including the mother's maiden name. Looking to break brick walls? Form
SS-5 may provide the way.

You can access all 23 of our short instructional videos directly >from our
You Tube Channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUV8xttIn93AwJX2_I0AIAg/feed or >from our
website http://jgsli.org/ If you have any comments or recommendations for
other topics, please let me know at past_pres@...

Nolan Altman

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island (JGSLI), winner of the IAJGS
2015 Outstanding Publication Award for its You Tube Channel, is pleased to
announce its latest video, "How Form SS-5 Can Help Break through Your
Research Brick Walls".

Federal Form SS-5, the Application for Social Security Number, may prove to
be a gem of a document. We all know how challenging it can be to determine
married women's maiden names. This form is a unique document since it
contains surname information that can link together a woman's married and
maiden name. In addition, the form reports the employee's parents' names,
including the mother's maiden name. Looking to break brick walls? Form
SS-5 may provide the way.

You can access all 23 of our short instructional videos directly >from our
You Tube Channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUV8xttIn93AwJX2_I0AIAg/feed or >from our
website http://jgsli.org/ If you have any comments or recommendations for
other topics, please let me know at past_pres@...

Nolan Altman

I am looking to share the services of a well-respected researcher in
the Minsk area. If you are interested in records >from Lyakhovichi
(Lachowitz) or Nesvizh, please contact me at pjblank@...

Paula Blank

Researching: Belarus- PASAMANICK (Nesvizh, Lyakhocvichi, Kosova),
LEYT (Nesvizh), LUKIN (Slutsk), KOZLIN/KESSLER (Slutsk), GHUTTSAIT
(Slutsk), LEVIN,Latvia - JACOBSOHN (Jelgava), LEVENSOHN/LOWENSOHN
(Jelgava), FINESCHREIBER, NEVATZEN, Poland/Austria - LANGER (Nowy
Sacz, Tarnow), PETERFREUND (Nowy Sacz), GOLDSAND (Tarnow), PLATZER
(Gorlice), ADER (Blazowa), RATH/ ROTH (Niebylec, Partynia)

I am looking to share the services of a well-respected researcher in
the Minsk area. If you are interested in records >from Lyakhovichi
(Lachowitz) or Nesvizh, please contact me at pjblank@...

Paula Blank

Researching: Belarus- PASAMANICK (Nesvizh, Lyakhocvichi, Kosova),
LEYT (Nesvizh), LUKIN (Slutsk), KOZLIN/KESSLER (Slutsk), GHUTTSAIT
(Slutsk), LEVIN,Latvia - JACOBSOHN (Jelgava), LEVENSOHN/LOWENSOHN
(Jelgava), FINESCHREIBER, NEVATZEN, Poland/Austria - LANGER (Nowy
Sacz, Tarnow), PETERFREUND (Nowy Sacz), GOLDSAND (Tarnow), PLATZER
(Gorlice), ADER (Blazowa), RATH/ ROTH (Niebylec, Partynia)

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
3 years. I consider myself to be intermediate in doing German Jewish
Genealogy research. I live in Hollywood Florida, USA. My native language
is English. I consider myself advanced inusing a computer. My experience
in using the Internet is extensive..

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of 4 of my
grandparents, 6 of my great grandparents and 8 of my great great
grandparents. My primary research goals now are to find out: More info
of Great great grandparents GRUENEBAUM.

My JGFF Researcher ID number is 554178.
I have not yet entered The family names and ancestral towns in the JGFF.
Here are names that I have run into a dead end with...my grandmother
Johannah GRUENEBAUM, GRUENEBAUM Married name MEYER
Birth Rendel, Wetteraukreis, Hessen, Germany 27 Feb 1875
Lived in:
Fechenheim, Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany to Cuba 1942 to USA 1943
Jennie LEVY my great grandmother married to GRUENEBAUM same address as above.

Sincerely, John Meyer, Hollywood, Florida USA meybar@...

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
3 years. I consider myself to be intermediate in doing German Jewish
Genealogy research. I live in Hollywood Florida, USA. My native language
is English. I consider myself advanced inusing a computer. My experience
in using the Internet is extensive..

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of 4 of my
grandparents, 6 of my great grandparents and 8 of my great great
grandparents. My primary research goals now are to find out: More info
of Great great grandparents GRUENEBAUM.

My JGFF Researcher ID number is 554178.
I have not yet entered The family names and ancestral towns in the JGFF.
Here are names that I have run into a dead end with...my grandmother
Johannah GRUENEBAUM, GRUENEBAUM Married name MEYER
Birth Rendel, Wetteraukreis, Hessen, Germany 27 Feb 1875
Lived in:
Fechenheim, Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany to Cuba 1942 to USA 1943
Jennie LEVY my great grandmother married to GRUENEBAUM same address as above.

Sincerely, John Meyer, Hollywood, Florida USA meybar@...

Dear Gersiggers,
I have hit yet another wall in my hunt for family tree members. Regine
JACOBS b. 1894 in Leiwen and d. 1942 in Auschwitz first married Manfred
LOBBENBERG.
I am unable to find out anything of his birth or death and would very much
like to know these details.
Regine then married Max WEYL b. 1873 and d. 1942 in Terezin, the esteemed
rabbi of the Rikestrasse Synagogue in Berlin. He tutored Regina Jonas who
became the first woman rabbi in the world in 1935.
I would like to know where Max WEYL was born and how he may have fitted in
to the many WEIL families already in my LOBBENBERG family tree.

Regards, Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto, Canada hank.lobben@...

Dear Gersiggers,
I have hit yet another wall in my hunt for family tree members. Regine
JACOBS b. 1894 in Leiwen and d. 1942 in Auschwitz first married Manfred
LOBBENBERG.
I am unable to find out anything of his birth or death and would very much
like to know these details.
Regine then married Max WEYL b. 1873 and d. 1942 in Terezin, the esteemed
rabbi of the Rikestrasse Synagogue in Berlin. He tutored Regina Jonas who
became the first woman rabbi in the world in 1935.
I would like to know where Max WEYL was born and how he may have fitted in
to the many WEIL families already in my LOBBENBERG family tree.

Regards, Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto, Canada hank.lobben@...

Hi Werner,
What town in the Netherlands and surname are you looking at? Are you
looking on the WieWasWie.nl and Akevoth.org websites? I would like to
see what you are looking at. On Akevoth they will sometimes include
the researchers explanation for things as well as include additional
information.

I have seen siblings with the same or similar names, in fact I have at
least two instances on my tree that I can think of. Though one of
those instances I think is a mistake but I will need to go back to
Amsterdam to verify.

In any case I have found that in researching my Dutch ancestry that
naming conventions tend to go out the window. One thing I know off
hand you can expect to see is kids named after living relatives. And
don't even get me started on surnames...

-Steve Jaron - sjaron@...

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Werner Frank wlfrank82@...
<gersig@...> wrote:

The official Dutch nineteenth century records of one Jewish family
show three daughters, all with same given name of Marianne.
A confirmation of this seeming curious practice are the marriage
records of the two sisters wherein the parents names are identical.
Can anyone explain this anomaly?

Hi Werner,
What town in the Netherlands and surname are you looking at? Are you
looking on the WieWasWie.nl and Akevoth.org websites? I would like to
see what you are looking at. On Akevoth they will sometimes include
the researchers explanation for things as well as include additional
information.

I have seen siblings with the same or similar names, in fact I have at
least two instances on my tree that I can think of. Though one of
those instances I think is a mistake but I will need to go back to
Amsterdam to verify.

In any case I have found that in researching my Dutch ancestry that
naming conventions tend to go out the window. One thing I know off
hand you can expect to see is kids named after living relatives. And
don't even get me started on surnames...

-Steve Jaron - sjaron@...

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Werner Frank wlfrank82@...
<gersig@...> wrote:

The official Dutch nineteenth century records of one Jewish family
show three daughters, all with same given name of Marianne.
A confirmation of this seeming curious practice are the marriage
records of the two sisters wherein the parents names are identical.
Can anyone explain this anomaly?