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Jewish Ukraine - Podil - More history #ukraine

Eli Rabinowitz
 


Re: Translation Help with Birth Record #lithuania #records

Russ Maurer
 

According to the Russian side, the newborn was Zelman. His father was Movsha MIKLISHANSKIY, son of Mendel, from Butrimonys. Zelman's mother was Sora Rivka (no maiden name), daughter of Mordukh. The date of birth is exactly as Steve Goldberg said. The bris was one week later (23 November/6 Kislev) by Yakov Eydelman. The birth occurred in Vilnius.

By the way, vital records including this one have been translated by LitvakSIG and can be found in the LitvakSIG All-Lithuania Database (he is listed as Zalman MIKLISHANSKY).

Russ Maurer
Records Acquisition & Translation Coordinator, LitvakSIG


Ukraine Document Databases Still Available #ukraine #records

joelbnovis@...
 

I had put in an order with Nadia Lipes on her Lipes database web site (https://lipesdatabase.com) before the war started on 24 February, and had the mistaken impression that the image scans were stored in Ukraine and thus no longer available.  I was pleasantly surprised to get document scans back yesterday afternoon, including an 1875 list of Jewish families in Kyiv that indicate I had another grand-uncle and grand-aunt I had no idea existed.  Nadia informed me that while many of her colleagues who perform the scans are still in Ukraine, the files themselves are in Western Europe and thus secure.  The perception that documents are no longer available has meant that her business has fallen off perceptibly.

This also applies to the web site Jewua.info (http://jewua.info/jewish-genealogy-knowledge-database/).   Please note that I have no connection to Nadia Lipes other than as a satisfied customer.

Presumably, as Alex Krakovskiy's scans are hosted on a UK-based Wikisource site, there are no issues with access, and has been noted in other posts, Alex has a large reserve of as-yet-unposted documents that will be made available.

Joel Novis
(Researching:  NOVITSKIY [Kyiv, Vasyl'kiv], OLSZTAJN [Łódź and environs], GEYMAN/HYMAN [Ashmyany], POMERANTZ [Navahrudak, Kapyl'], LEVY [???])


Touring Kyiv #ukraine

Eli Rabinowitz
 


We Support Ukraine!

Touring KYIV

https://elirab.me/touring-kyiv/



Regards

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth Australia


Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general

Dahn Cukier
 

I have not followed the entire conversation. My advice is
to read the various privacy links and decide if
you want to upload information, read the "setting"  information
supplied on the site and set up your entry as you wish.

For instance there was/is a difference between BillionGraves and
FindAGrave about who controls the content after it is uploaded. Is
the difference important, yes, one person requested the photo be taken
down after they saw the inscription.

Happy hunting
Dahn Zukrowicz


Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general

Michele Lock
 

I've chosen to make my tree on Ancestry public, because I'd like others who may be distant relatives to see the tree and be able to contact me with questions or information that they may have. I know I've benefited immensely from others' detailed trees on Ancestry, allowing me to much more quickly flesh out different branches of my family. Plus, I enjoy the interactions with newly found relatives, or at least with those who respond to my messages on Ancestry's website. 

Another reason I make my tree public is because I've gone back further than others in researching my family's various branches, mostly by gathering records from Jewishgen. Most of the my other distant relatives who have trees on Ancestry only look at US-based records, and have only limited knowledge of which towns in the old country our branches hail from. 

And one last, quixotic reason - I have the vain hope that others who have mistakes in their trees about my Lock family, in particular, will one day come to their senses and realize that our family hails from Gruzdziai in Lithuania, and not Gruzdiske, a completely different sleepy little town in Lithuania. One can only hope.

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Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania; Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia; Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania; Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Sheri Prager
 

Lehmann Marx (my great great grandfather) was born in 1842 in Alsace Lorraine/Germany, father’s name probably Samuel, mother’s name unknown. He immigrated to the US in 1865. I have all his census records (New York), his death record (1905), several obituaries, most of his 14 children’s birth records. I have searched for 25 years and can’t find what city he was born in. I have information about his wife’s family (Meyer from Drachenbronn) two generations and more beyond her. They did not get married in Drachenbronn or any nearby town, and I’ve searched a lot of them, but I believe they were married before they immigrated. In January I sent the Livingston Masonic Library a check with a letter asking if they had his application, but if I ever hear from them I don’t expect to learn anything new.

 

Where else can I search? I don’t think I’m missing anything obvious, but I’m stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Thank you for any help.
Sheri Prager
Vancouver, WA


Re: Help translating Hebrew headstone for KAMIENKA #translation

ramot418@...
 

Ze'ev (Hebrew) = Velvel (Yiddish) = Wolf/Wulf (English/German).
My great grandfather, Ze'ev, is sometimes listed as Velvel, sometimes Wulf, in vital records
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Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Researching:
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania


Re: Translation Help with Birth Record #lithuania #records

ramot418@...
 

I'm looking at the Hebrew.
The names aren't clear to me.  It looks like the father's name is Moshe, son of Mendel, and the mother's name is Sarah Rivka, daughter of Mardsha(?).
The newborn's name is Zalman.
What is very clear is the date of birth:  28th of Cheshvan 5644 = Nov 16, 1883 (Julian) = Nov 28, 1883 (Gregorian)
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Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Researching:
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania


Krivazer-Krivoye Ozero Brick Wall #ukraine

Paul Mayerowitz
 

On http://jewua.org/krivoye-ozero/, there is a list of the Jews who suffered during the pogroms in Krivoye Ozero.  It is also entitled “Krivoye Ozero: Jewish population 1920-1921.”  The list contains what appears to be ancestors of mine under the names of Meierovitch Itzko, Meierovitch Lippa, Melnitskaja Shifra, Meyerovtich Perel and Meyerovtich Zisia.  I have been unable to identify the source of this information as the schedule also lists the number of members in each family, This would be helpful in searching for the rest of my family and knowing which family members were killed in the pogroms.  My grandfather, Moishe ben Moishe, I was told, was named after his father who was killed during one of the earliest pogroms.  He emigrated to the United States in 1904.   The USC Shoah Foundation Survivor Interviews has testimony for a Lipa Mierovich from Polina Petrovna Korotkaia. The testimony identifies Lipa’s wife as Dvoira although his great granddaughter was told Lipa’s wife was Basha and second wife was Shifra Melnitskaja.  The testimony also included relatives Khana Mierovicj and Etia,  The Hebrew name Chana and Ethel appear regularly throughout the family.

 

There is a U.S. Social Security application for a Lipa Meyerovitch whose spouse is Dboria [Devorah?] and a child Shifra Melnitskaja . However, Ancestry offers no further clues on addresses, immigration or obituary that I could find.

 

Any suggestions on how to clarify and break through this brick wall.  Are there readily available resources online I should be additionally trying?  What am I missing?

 

 

 

Paul G. Mayerowitz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately with family information

Searching for:

MORDKOVITCH, GOLDSTEIN, GOULD, GREEN (Nowy Dwor, Poland, London, England, New Jersey, USA);

MAYEROWITZ, MEYEROVITCH, MAYROWETZ, MAYROWETZ,  MAYER, MEYEROWITZ (Ukraine, New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA);

REISFELD, REISFIELD, REISS ( Ukraine, New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA)

LUKSENBURG, LUXSENBURG, LUXENBURG (Montevideo, Uruguay, Poland)

BRAUNER (Poland, Montevideo, Uruguay)

KANNER(Lemburg, Austria)

BREITEL( Lemburg, Austria)

ANAPOL (Jersey City,New Jerseey, USA, Russia)

 

 


Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters Lists #ukraine

Harry Moatz
 

JewishGen has a database for the Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters List for 1906 and 1907.  JewishGen explains that JewishGen Ukraine SIG acquired copies of the voter lists, though all were not complete, and how they proceeded to transliterate the names from Cyrillic to English.  The lists appeared in the newspaper Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomostie in 1906 and 1907.  However, JewishGen does not address, and I have been unable to ascertain whether and where digitized copies of the newspaper lists are accessible.  Have the original newspapers/lists been digitized and are they available on the internet or elsewhere?  
Harry Moatz
Potomac, MD, USA
hamoatzi@...

ABOWITZ - Lomza
BRODESKY - Berdichev
GOLDMAN / PASNIKOW - Hadiach or Gadyach
GREENBURG - Kiev
KESSLER - Pruzhany
KLAUBER - Sambir or Sambor
SCHWARTZ / SCHWARZ / SZWARZ - Monasterzyska and Stanislawow
TEITELBAUM - Yazloweic or Yazlovets
WARECK and MEYER / MEER - Dembitz or Debica


Re: Has anyone found useful results from this newspaper resource? #general

janicemsj@...
 

Two more points to make about Chronicling America:

The digitized newspapers in the collection were paid for only with federal funding.  Many states have digitized additional newspapers with funding from other sources, but those will not appear on Chronicling America.  For that reason, those states have usually created their own online newspaper sites, which host both the federally funded images and those paid for through other sources.  So if you find a state in Chronicling America, search to see if that state also has its own site with more newspapers.

Besides the online digitized historical newspapers, which of course we all like to find, the truly great resource on Chronicling America is the list of newspapers that have been published in the United States.


You can search this database by location, timeframe, title, ethnicity, and more.

While most of these have not been digitized, finding out that a newspaper was published in your city/town and that physical or micofilmed copies of the newspaper exist means that you can try to gain access to those offline and still continue your research.  Remember, not everything is online!  The latest estimate I read said that only about 15% of records (of all sorts) that genealogists use have been digitized and are available online.  That makes 85% that you need to look for offline.  And newspapers are treasure troves of information.

Janice M. Sellers
Gresham, Oregon
GORODETSKY Podolia and Kishinev, Russia; SCHNEIDERMAN Podolia, Russia
MECKLER/MEKLER Kamenets-Litovsk, Russia; NOWICKI/NOVITSKY Porozovo, Russia
BRAININ, JAFFE, MICHELSON Kreuzburg, Russia
OBERSTEIN, Grodno, Russia
ORLOVSKY, Bachmach and Glukhov, Russia


On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 2:49 PM <jbonline1111@...> wrote:
> Scrolling through my local public library's online resources today, I found a newspaper resource from the Library of Congress, called Chronicling America.  https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=New+York&date1=1905&date2=1963&proxtext=Slatas&x=13&y=14&dateFilterType=yearRange&rows=20&searchType=basic
> I only did one search as a trial, but it seems to be a useful resource for newspapers from 1777 through 1963.

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Everything turns out all right in the end. If it's not all right, it's not the end.


Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal - Family Tree Workshop with Tool Time – April 10 #events #canada

Andreas Schwab
 

Our next FAMILY TREE WORKSHOP, hosted by genealogy guru Stanley Diamond, will be held on Sunday, April 10 from 10 am to noon.

The workshop will feature another TOOL TIME mini-lesson, with our IAJGS award-winning webmaster Gary Perlman, this time demonstrating how to use Canadian Jewish newspapers to further your research. 

The Zoom workshop, where you can ask your own question, will be limited to 25 people. The Zoom link and other details required for live participation will be sent exclusively to our Workshop Email List: write to workshop@.... 

Alternately, you can watch a live stream of the workshop at: https://youtu.be/3ssir2f5a20

We also plan to post a recording of the workshop at the same link on our You Tube channel for future viewing.

We make our workshops available to members and non-members alike. If you find them useful, please consider becoming a member of JGS-Montreal to help us continue our work. 

 


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Visit our web site at https://jgs-montreal.org


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Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

First it depends - It may be possible on some of the sites.  Secondly as far as privacy is concerned - all of the major genealogy sites do NOT show any information for LIVING people unless you invite them to your tree or site.  Furthermore most identity theft occurs due to breaches - and not due to genealogy - genealogy is a scapegoat.  Now I do have a TNG site and once I got it set up, all I need to do is to upload a new gedcom - and I just did that last night.  You can require passwords for family if you want to share information on living people - I chose not to require passwords but only to include names of living people (no data) and to make people private upon request).  This is my balancing act between having cousins connect and absolute privacy - such as excluding all living people from your tree).  My link is below.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Hebrew name in English #names

Sarah L Meyer
 

My Zeidi's middle name was Tzvi which is Hebrew for deer.  However I only saw that on one document, otherwise he used Hersh (which is Yiddish for deer).  Our son's name is Isaac Zvi and his Hebrew name is Yitzchak Zvi named for my Zeidi.  
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Citizenship status on census sheets #records

David Oseas
 

Prior to the passage of the Cable Act (1922), women derived their citizenship status through their husband, so there would not be a separate naturalization for your grandmother.

Regards,
David Oseas


Now online: Genealogy Coffee Break webinar on Nazi-looted books and artifacts #events

Moriah Amit
 

In case you missed it, you may now view the recording of our most recent episode of Genealogy Coffee Break here. In this episode, we explore the papers of Col. Seymour J. Pomrenze (one of the Monuments Men) at the American Jewish Historical Society, and illustrate how this collection and others like it may be relevant for genealogists.
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Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY
mamit@...


Pre-Shabbos Gesher Galicia News Update from Ukraine Friday March 11th #galicia #general #ukraine #poland

Steven Turner
 

1. Mykhailo (Misha) Zubar, Gesher Galicia's representative in Ukraine, has written to us today.

Vinnytsia, 14:15 Vinnytsia time [12:15 GMT/UTC, March 11]


As our new life in Vinnytsia gradually settles into a more stable routine, we have realized that we will not be able to return home for at least quite some time. I have managed to establish contact with my Polish colleagues who had collaborated on assistance to Ukrainian museums. Now I am collecting information about the primary needs of our museum, the National Shevchenko Museum in Kyiv, and sending it to my colleagues in Poland. In addition, other museum employees who were able to leave Kyiv have been able to update the social media pages of the museum.


In Kyiv itself, from all the reports I have had, it has been relatively quiet for several days. Only distant explosions have been heard and the air defense system is operating. For two days now there has been a constant evacuation of local residents from the suburbs of Kyiv, which were destroyed by Russian troops. There, as I wrote in my previous report, some people had spent more than a week in basements without water or food. Several of my friends, after a week in such an existence, have now fortunately managed to escape from the suburbs and find their way to Vinnytsia.


This morning, as you will have heard, rocket attacks were launched on Ivano-Frankivsk, Lutsk, and Dnipro. This has brought home to people that no matter where you are, you are still in danger while there is a war going on. I have friends and colleagues in both Ivano-Frankivsk and Dnipro. They were all well today when I wrote to them asking about their safety, and they texted me about the situation.


The most tragic situation of all at the moment is unfolding in Mariupol, on the coast of the Sea of Azov. The city had been desperately defending for almost two weeks against constant shelling. Recently, Russian troops bombed a maternity hospital there. A real humanitarian catastrophe is taking place in Mariupol. For two weeks I haven't been able to contact my students. I don't know if they are alive, but I want to believe and hope so. The city, which in recent years had become a “showcase” for the Ukrainian Donbass, has now been wiped off the face of the earth. Let me now tell you more about Mariupol and how I came to be connected so closely with this city.


A few years ago, the authorities in Mariupol decided to create a new urban cultural center with a permanent exhibition following a modern-style narrative. At the time, along with some colleagues from Poland, I was one of the main consultants for the creation of this center. We selected six students who worked on the ground to set up this project, and were in constant contact with them. From time to time I went to Mariupol, in the hope that when this museum was finished, all these students would work in it and help run it. It is terribly painful for me to think that everything we had been working on for four years is now in ashes, having been destroyed by the invading army. And the most painful thing of all is that I don't know what has happened with the students and my other friends in this city.


You asked if I had some photos to send. No one dares to take pictures because the Ukrainian army has asked people not to take photos and not to publish them in the public domain.

(end of message)


2. Gesher Galicia had written to Olesia Stefanyk - director of the Central State Historical Archives in Ukraine in Lviv (TsDIAL), and an archival advisor to Gesher Galicia - telling her that we were encouraging support for the appeal to protect the archive, launched by the academic team at the Jagiellonian University. We had also told her that Gesher Galicia as an organization had made a donation to this appeal.


Olesia Stefanyk replied (Lviv, March 11) as follows:

"Thank you very much for not deserting us in these difficult times. Your help is timely and important for the archive.

Good wishes to you and your colleagues, for health and well-being.

Thank you for everything!

To Victory!"


3. Report today from Igor Perriman the secular head of the Ivano-Frankivsk Jewish community. Igor and Rabbi Kolesnik have already helped 563 refugees out of the Tempel Synagogue with supplies purchased with aid sent by Gesher Galicia’s emergency appeal. (Photos of that were posted in a prior post.) He said there is much talk of saboteurs and provocateurs in the area. The community has arranged for “armed organized night guards” for protection of all the goods they have bought and the synagogue. The situation is very tense, especially with the Russian attack on the I-F airport today.


A Gut Shabbos

And a Shabbat Shalom to all.

Let’s hope that it is a peaceful one.


Steven Turner
President, Gesher Galicia


Re: Has anyone found useful results from this newspaper resource? #general

jbonline1111@...
 

Marion Werle said "You mentioned that you found it at your public library, but it is web based and accessible from home."  True, but there is a link from my public library online to the Library of Congress. That is how I found the site.  I'm so happy to learn that others have been using it. That makes me wonder whether JewishGen has a list of such resources somewhere that I haven't noticed.
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general

jbonline1111@...
 

In addition to all the possible issues others have mentioned, I have found that it is very easy to find living and deceased people through various online search apps, some of which are free.  I try to take my name off these when I see it, but they use public records and can load it again.  I even found my grandfather (twice) on an app purporting to memorialize the deceased. Both versions had erroneous information about him. He died more than 40 years ago.  I never use my mother's maiden name for anything.  It's very unique and it's easy enough to find.  I have my family information on JewishGen, but nowhere else, at least, not uploaded by me. 
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC