During the year 2001, I hired a private Romanian researcher to obtain
records for my MENDEL family who had lived in Buhusi, Bacau, Romania in the
1800's. He supplied many original birth and death records >from the late
1800's. He found more information than I had ever imagined was possible and,
he also translated the documents for me. (Most of the vital records noted
that my family lived in Buhusi on the road to Bacau.) This was not an
inexpensive process however; these were the first and only primary records
that I was able to obtain which validate my Romanian ancestry.

I have a few comments on finding records in Bacau. I'm assuming that a
public clerk in Bacau has little incentive to spend a lot of time looking
for your particular family records. I have in my possession 10 records which
took the private researcher a day to seek out. They are spread over about a
15 year period so I would assume that they weren't all just sitting in a
folder together. In the current world of email, we sometimes expect that
everything can be easily found in a computerized index and can be quickly
accessed. It will take hours of work going through dusty records to find
anything of value unless you know specific names and dates which I assume in
most cases is the reason you were looking for the documents in the first
place. In my family the given names were variations of the original Yiddish
names so a clerk or researcher who is not experienced would have difficulty
finding the appropriate record. (My grandmother's name in the U.S. was
"Fanny" however, she was born "Freida-Sura.")

Also, some of my cousins were under the impression that our family was from
Bacau while others mentioned Buhusi. Everyone was correct since there are
multiple births and deaths. (I still need to do further research in the
City of Bacau.) I understand that the records still exist. Others may be
able to shed light of this thought however; I believe that Bacau is a county
as well as a city. (Similar to "New York, New York.") I believe that it
would be a tremendous help to a researcher to know if your family was >from a
village located within Bacau County or the City of Bacau. What I am
suggesting here is that many records exist but may difficult to access
unless you have the help of a professional Romanian researcher. (I have
avoided giving the name of the person who helped me since I don't know if he
still provides this service and I don't want to make it seem like I am
recommending any person in particular.)

The only thing that counts are the results. The following is the translated
record of my grandmother's birth. (During her lifetime she never knew when
she was born.)

BUHUSI BIRTH RECORD
BIRTH CERTIFICATE No 44 delivered on (Wednesday) June 30, 1881, 3 P.M.
Birth certificate of FREIDA - SURA, female, born yesterday in Buhusi, in her
parents' house situated on the street going to Bacau, son of IOSUB MENDEL
CROITORU (the tailor), 48 years old, and VICHE MENDEL, 40 years old, both
tailors, living in Buhusi.
The father who presented the child to us declared the birth.
Witnesses: Avram Goldstein, 25 years old, tailor and Itzic Croitoru, 50
years old, tailor, both of them friends with the child's parents and living
in Buhusi.
The witnesses signed this certificate together with the father of the child
and us.
Acknowledged according to the legal procedures by us, Nicu Toderascu, the
Mayor of Buhusi, Bistritza Department, Neamtz District, and Civil Estate
Officer also.
Signatures: father, witnesses, Civil Estate Officer.

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, New Jersey







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During the year 2001, I hired a private Romanian researcher to obtain
records for my MENDEL family who had lived in Buhusi, Bacau, Romania in the
1800's. He supplied many original birth and death records >from the late
1800's. He found more information than I had ever imagined was possible and,
he also translated the documents for me. (Most of the vital records noted
that my family lived in Buhusi on the road to Bacau.) This was not an
inexpensive process however; these were the first and only primary records
that I was able to obtain which validate my Romanian ancestry.

I have a few comments on finding records in Bacau. I'm assuming that a
public clerk in Bacau has little incentive to spend a lot of time looking
for your particular family records. I have in my possession 10 records which
took the private researcher a day to seek out. They are spread over about a
15 year period so I would assume that they weren't all just sitting in a
folder together. In the current world of email, we sometimes expect that
everything can be easily found in a computerized index and can be quickly
accessed. It will take hours of work going through dusty records to find
anything of value unless you know specific names and dates which I assume in
most cases is the reason you were looking for the documents in the first
place. In my family the given names were variations of the original Yiddish
names so a clerk or researcher who is not experienced would have difficulty
finding the appropriate record. (My grandmother's name in the U.S. was
"Fanny" however, she was born "Freida-Sura.")

Also, some of my cousins were under the impression that our family was from
Bacau while others mentioned Buhusi. Everyone was correct since there are
multiple births and deaths. (I still need to do further research in the
City of Bacau.) I understand that the records still exist. Others may be
able to shed light of this thought however; I believe that Bacau is a county
as well as a city. (Similar to "New York, New York.") I believe that it
would be a tremendous help to a researcher to know if your family was >from a
village located within Bacau County or the City of Bacau. What I am
suggesting here is that many records exist but may difficult to access
unless you have the help of a professional Romanian researcher. (I have
avoided giving the name of the person who helped me since I don't know if he
still provides this service and I don't want to make it seem like I am
recommending any person in particular.)

The only thing that counts are the results. The following is the translated
record of my grandmother's birth. (During her lifetime she never knew when
she was born.)

BUHUSI BIRTH RECORD
BIRTH CERTIFICATE No 44 delivered on (Wednesday) June 30, 1881, 3 P.M.
Birth certificate of FREIDA - SURA, female, born yesterday in Buhusi, in her
parents' house situated on the street going to Bacau, son of IOSUB MENDEL
CROITORU (the tailor), 48 years old, and VICHE MENDEL, 40 years old, both
tailors, living in Buhusi.
The father who presented the child to us declared the birth.
Witnesses: Avram Goldstein, 25 years old, tailor and Itzic Croitoru, 50
years old, tailor, both of them friends with the child's parents and living
in Buhusi.
The witnesses signed this certificate together with the father of the child
and us.
Acknowledged according to the legal procedures by us, Nicu Toderascu, the
Mayor of Buhusi, Bistritza Department, Neamtz District, and Civil Estate
Officer also.
Signatures: father, witnesses, Civil Estate Officer.

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, New Jersey







~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't miss out! Plan to be with us in Jerusalem for the 35th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy 6-10 July 2015

Register now at
www.iajgs2015.org

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen’s video – click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support the work of YOUR Romania-SIG with a contribution
to the JewishGen Romania SIG Funds
HELP US TO HELP YOU
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=20

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Here's an alternative derivation for MALLENBAUM: malum is the Latin
for apple, and Apfelbaum is quite a common Jewish surname. If I can
think of it, so could any other academically-inclined jokester.

Here's an alternative derivation for MALLENBAUM: malum is the Latin
for apple, and Apfelbaum is quite a common Jewish surname. If I can
think of it, so could any other academically-inclined jokester.