I've posted a vital record in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is
on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36905

It is the tombstone of Herbert SCHWABACHER as photographed in Findagrave:

Name:
Henry Schwabacher

Birth Date:
2 Feb 1828

Death Date:
3 Oct 1890

Death Place:
Hayneville, Lowndes County, Alabama, USA

Cemetery:
Oakwood Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:
Montgomery, Montgomery County, Alabama, USA

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

John Anderson,
Orlando, Florida

I've posted a vital record in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is
on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36905

It is the tombstone of Herbert SCHWABACHER as photographed in Findagrave:

Name:
Henry Schwabacher

Birth Date:
2 Feb 1828

Death Date:
3 Oct 1890

Death Place:
Hayneville, Lowndes County, Alabama, USA

Cemetery:
Oakwood Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:
Montgomery, Montgomery County, Alabama, USA

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

John Anderson,
Orlando, Florida

I've posted part of an 1897 ship manifest at

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36916

and am requesting help reading the name of the brother-in-law who
appears in the column showing where the passenger is going. Also, the
brother-in-law's address.

Thank you,

Judith Lipmanson

I'd appreciate translation of two Yiddish letters I've posted to
ViewMate. One is dated 1946, and I believe the other is >from the same
time period. Here are direct links:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=36930
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=36931

Please respond privately or via ViewMate. Thanks so much!
Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.

I've posted part of an 1897 ship manifest at

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36916

and am requesting help reading the name of the brother-in-law who
appears in the column showing where the passenger is going. Also, the
brother-in-law's address.

Thank you,

Judith Lipmanson

I'd appreciate translation of two Yiddish letters I've posted to
ViewMate. One is dated 1946, and I believe the other is >from the same
time period. Here are direct links:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=36930
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=36931

Please respond privately or via ViewMate. Thanks so much!
Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.

I've posted several paragraphs in Yiddish >from the 25th anniversary
publication of the First Lubiner Progressive Benevolent Association, a
New York City landsmanshaft organization associated with the community
of Labun/Lubin (today known as Yurovshchina, Ukraine). I would like a
full translation that I may share on my kehilalinks webpage.

The text is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36917

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Emily Garber
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com

I've posted several paragraphs in Yiddish >from the 25th anniversary
publication of the First Lubiner Progressive Benevolent Association, a
New York City landsmanshaft organization associated with the community
of Labun/Lubin (today known as Yurovshchina, Ukraine). I would like a
full translation that I may share on my kehilalinks webpage.

The text is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36917

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Emily Garber
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com

I have a Rochel PICKHOLZ, age 19, traveling alone to the USA.
She arrived at Castel Garden, NY in 1890 aboard the SS Servia
and then there is no record of her that I have been able to
find of her here in the states.

Having said that, to get to England and the ship Servia which
was in Liverpool, according to the Hamburg passenger list, she
sailed on the SS Empress. Those records state she was Russian
and came >from the town of Radsimil. The hand writing of that
city is very hard to read. The city could have been Russia
then but not now. Who knows. What is for sure is that I have
not been able to locate that town, nor have I been able to find
any records >from Russia pertaining to Rochel.

I'm open to all suggestion as to what happened to her in the
USA or what town in Russia she came >from or anything else.

Thanks for your help.

Steve Pickholtz
nj55turtle@...

I have a Rochel PICKHOLZ, age 19, traveling alone to the USA.
She arrived at Castel Garden, NY in 1890 aboard the SS Servia
and then there is no record of her that I have been able to
find of her here in the states.

Having said that, to get to England and the ship Servia which
was in Liverpool, according to the Hamburg passenger list, she
sailed on the SS Empress. Those records state she was Russian
and came >from the town of Radsimil. The hand writing of that
city is very hard to read. The city could have been Russia
then but not now. Who knows. What is for sure is that I have
not been able to locate that town, nor have I been able to find
any records >from Russia pertaining to Rochel.

I'm open to all suggestion as to what happened to her in the
USA or what town in Russia she came >from or anything else.

Thanks for your help.

Steve Pickholtz
nj55turtle@...

Helen Gardner wrote:

With immense thanks to Tomasz Jerzy Nowak, I now have a translation
of the marriage of my great grandparents Szlama Ajzengold and Ruchla
Laja Rakower on 26 October 1862. It turns out that the bride and
groom already had two children born out of wedlock, and the transcript
says:

Snip
... Also, the spouses declared that, through the actual act of
matrimony, in accordance with Article two hundred and ninety-one of
the Civil Code of the Kingdom of Poland guaranteeing {children born
out of wedlock} the rights and status equal to that of children
lawfully born, they recognized their both daughters, that is to say,
Chaia Sura who had been born here in Warsaw on the sixteenth day of
June of last year, and Udla, who had been born in Warsaw on the
thirteenth day of July of the current year, both of whom had been
mutually begotten by them during their pre-conjugal relationship, as
their own daughters....
Snip

Although I have found many references to the Polish Civil Code, I
have not been able to find any reference to article 291 as it was in
19th Century Poland. A friend told me that as long as there was no
conflict with Polish law, Jewish law was recognised as valid, and
that this would be an example of Jewish law on the status of the
children being accepted by Polish law.

If that is correct, I would imagine that article 291 covered the
acceptance of Jewish (or other?) law under approved circumstances,
rather than any reference to children born out of wedlock, and that
for non-Jewish children born out of wedlock the provision of rights
and status equal to that of children lawfully born would not apply.

I would be very grateful if someone could amplify this for me, and,
if possible, tell me what article 291 actually said. Direct replies
to me at helen@... are fine, unless the moderator
thinks this is likely to be of interest to others on the list.

Some of the Article 291 and related to Article 165 of the Code of the
Kingdom of Poland details are located in Krakow's Jagiellonian
University presentation.

Please refer to the scan # 13 at

http://www.law.uj.edu.pl/~khpp/site/images/adm/Image/Prawo%20osobowe,%20rodzinne%20i%20opiekuncze%20pod%20zaborami.ppt
[or http://tinyurl.com/qym5cx4 --Mod.]

It says in particular that the children born >from the non-recognized
marriage will be recognized as legitimate when their parents will
legalize their marriage, and recognize their children as legitimate.

The follow up Article 165, updated in 1914, inforce the motion that
illegitimate child shall carry on mother's maiden surname.

Thus, Jewish religious marriage is not recognized as legitimate, and
children born into such marriage are illegitimate.

Best

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

Helen Gardner wrote:

With immense thanks to Tomasz Jerzy Nowak, I now have a translation
of the marriage of my great grandparents Szlama Ajzengold and Ruchla
Laja Rakower on 26 October 1862. It turns out that the bride and
groom already had two children born out of wedlock, and the transcript
says:

Snip
... Also, the spouses declared that, through the actual act of
matrimony, in accordance with Article two hundred and ninety-one of
the Civil Code of the Kingdom of Poland guaranteeing {children born
out of wedlock} the rights and status equal to that of children
lawfully born, they recognized their both daughters, that is to say,
Chaia Sura who had been born here in Warsaw on the sixteenth day of
June of last year, and Udla, who had been born in Warsaw on the
thirteenth day of July of the current year, both of whom had been
mutually begotten by them during their pre-conjugal relationship, as
their own daughters....
Snip

Although I have found many references to the Polish Civil Code, I
have not been able to find any reference to article 291 as it was in
19th Century Poland. A friend told me that as long as there was no
conflict with Polish law, Jewish law was recognised as valid, and
that this would be an example of Jewish law on the status of the
children being accepted by Polish law.

If that is correct, I would imagine that article 291 covered the
acceptance of Jewish (or other?) law under approved circumstances,
rather than any reference to children born out of wedlock, and that
for non-Jewish children born out of wedlock the provision of rights
and status equal to that of children lawfully born would not apply.

I would be very grateful if someone could amplify this for me, and,
if possible, tell me what article 291 actually said. Direct replies
to me at helen@... are fine, unless the moderator
thinks this is likely to be of interest to others on the list.

Some of the Article 291 and related to Article 165 of the Code of the
Kingdom of Poland details are located in Krakow's Jagiellonian
University presentation.

Please refer to the scan # 13 at

http://www.law.uj.edu.pl/~khpp/site/images/adm/Image/Prawo%20osobowe,%20rodzinne%20i%20opiekuncze%20pod%20zaborami.ppt
[or http://tinyurl.com/qym5cx4 --Mod.]

It says in particular that the children born >from the non-recognized
marriage will be recognized as legitimate when their parents will
legalize their marriage, and recognize their children as legitimate.

The follow up Article 165, updated in 1914, inforce the motion that
illegitimate child shall carry on mother's maiden surname.

Thus, Jewish religious marriage is not recognized as legitimate, and
children born into such marriage are illegitimate.

Best

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

Can anyone suggest a good reason that South Africa Jewish
immigrant families virtually always appear to be Litvaks
( Lithuanian)

Aubrey Jacobus
London

Can anyone suggest a good reason that South Africa Jewish
immigrant families virtually always appear to be Litvaks
( Lithuanian)

Aubrey Jacobus
London

My oldest confirmed ancestor in Ichenhausen, Schwaben was Henoch ben
Baruch Bissinger [1747-1816] >from researching his ancestors for many years
I now believe that Henoch was the great grandson of Rabbi Hanoch/Henoch
Zundel Pfersee, who was a rabbi in Gunzenhausen and Schnatitach, and
himself the descendant of three generations of rabbis in Poland and Germany.
*but*, so far I cannot prove this hypothesis--it's based on circumstantial
evidence, but lacks certain documentary confirmation.

I need the help of expert genealogists now living in the Schwaben region,
and the help of fellow genealogist who descend >from the families I
mentioned.
My ancestor, Henoch ben Baruch had hundreds of descendants--among them in
every generation oodles of boys named Henoch. By mid-19th century
Many of them used the civil name Heinrich.

If anyone can offer me advice, please write to me.

Jim Bennett
Haifa

Hi all.

I have received several messages suggesting that the parents had
actually had a religious ceremony some time previously and were
therefore married in Jewish law - or alternatively that the
children were >from the first marriage.

Neither of these is the case. In the section of the marriage
record which I should have included it is quite clear that the
religious marriage was performed the day before the civil record,
on 26 Oct 1862.

Snip
It came to pass in Warsaw on the twenty-seventh day of October in
the year of one thousand eight hundred and sixty-two at the hour
of half past eight in the morning. Before me, a Civil Registrar
for Non-Christian Confession of District Four, personally appeared
orthodox Jew Jakob Majer Jeszuron, a lower rabbi ...
snip
and declared before us that the religious matrimony had been
entered into in front of him on the twenty-sixth day of October of
the current year by Szlama Ajgengold, the bachelor, and the widow
Ruchla Laj Rakower, following proclamation of banns in this
district, that is to say, on the thirteenth, the twentieth and the
twenty-seventh day of September of the current year by means of
posting them on the office door
snip

The first husband died in 1855, while the wife was pregnant with
their 2nd child, a daughter, whose father is recorded as deceased
on her birth record. She is not mentioned in the marriage, nor in
any other record I can find.

As mentioned in my previous email, the bride and groom recognise
both daughters (born 1861 and 1862) as their own children, which
is the grounds for giving them civil rights.

For anyone who is interested, I have received a reply >from Greg
Gembala as follows:

It wasn't easy, but I was able to find it in one of the digital
libraries. Attached find the scan of this particular paragraph
on page 128. It refers generally to all children born out of
wedlock, as you describe it, that they become legitimate should
their parents marry at a later date, if they were declared prior
to that as legitimate or latest at the moment of the parent's
wedding.

Helen Gardner

My oldest confirmed ancestor in Ichenhausen, Schwaben was Henoch ben
Baruch Bissinger [1747-1816] >from researching his ancestors for many years
I now believe that Henoch was the great grandson of Rabbi Hanoch/Henoch
Zundel Pfersee, who was a rabbi in Gunzenhausen and Schnatitach, and
himself the descendant of three generations of rabbis in Poland and Germany.
*but*, so far I cannot prove this hypothesis--it's based on circumstantial
evidence, but lacks certain documentary confirmation.

I need the help of expert genealogists now living in the Schwaben region,
and the help of fellow genealogist who descend >from the families I
mentioned.
My ancestor, Henoch ben Baruch had hundreds of descendants--among them in
every generation oodles of boys named Henoch. By mid-19th century
Many of them used the civil name Heinrich.

If anyone can offer me advice, please write to me.

Jim Bennett
Haifa

Hi all.

I have received several messages suggesting that the parents had
actually had a religious ceremony some time previously and were
therefore married in Jewish law - or alternatively that the
children were >from the first marriage.

Neither of these is the case. In the section of the marriage
record which I should have included it is quite clear that the
religious marriage was performed the day before the civil record,
on 26 Oct 1862.

Snip
It came to pass in Warsaw on the twenty-seventh day of October in
the year of one thousand eight hundred and sixty-two at the hour
of half past eight in the morning. Before me, a Civil Registrar
for Non-Christian Confession of District Four, personally appeared
orthodox Jew Jakob Majer Jeszuron, a lower rabbi ...
snip
and declared before us that the religious matrimony had been
entered into in front of him on the twenty-sixth day of October of
the current year by Szlama Ajgengold, the bachelor, and the widow
Ruchla Laj Rakower, following proclamation of banns in this
district, that is to say, on the thirteenth, the twentieth and the
twenty-seventh day of September of the current year by means of
posting them on the office door
snip

The first husband died in 1855, while the wife was pregnant with
their 2nd child, a daughter, whose father is recorded as deceased
on her birth record. She is not mentioned in the marriage, nor in
any other record I can find.

As mentioned in my previous email, the bride and groom recognise
both daughters (born 1861 and 1862) as their own children, which
is the grounds for giving them civil rights.

For anyone who is interested, I have received a reply >from Greg
Gembala as follows:

It wasn't easy, but I was able to find it in one of the digital
libraries. Attached find the scan of this particular paragraph
on page 128. It refers generally to all children born out of
wedlock, as you describe it, that they become legitimate should
their parents marry at a later date, if they were declared prior
to that as legitimate or latest at the moment of the parent's
wedding.

Helen Gardner

I've posted several paragraphs in Yiddish >from the 25th anniversary
publication of the First Lubiner Progressive Benevolent Association, a
New York City landsmanshaft organization associated with the community
of Labun/Lubin (today known as Yurovshchina, Ukraine). I would like a
full translation that I may share on my kehilalinks webpage.

The text is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36917

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Emily Garber
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com

I've posted several paragraphs in Yiddish >from the 25th anniversary
publication of the First Lubiner Progressive Benevolent Association, a
New York City landsmanshaft organization associated with the community
of Labun/Lubin (today known as Yurovshchina, Ukraine). I would like a
full translation that I may share on my kehilalinks webpage.

The text is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM36917

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Emily Garber
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com