On Hart Island, in the east of the Bronx lays a public cemetery where one
million people have been buried-one of the largest cemeteries in the US-but
visiting is prohibited. The cemetery has been in existence since 1869 and
bodies are buried three coffins-deep. Buried there are still-born babies,
the homeless, the poor and the unclaimed. Small white posts in the ground
mark each 150 adult bodies. A thousand children and infants are buried
together per grave. Approximately 1,500 people are buried there annually. It
is forbidden to photograph the cemetery and it is run by the Department of
Corrections. Records of those buried there are "sketchy" at best- they have
been lost or burned and the Department of Corrections says they don't have
the infrastructure to permit visitors or maintain files. The Hart Island
Project (http://hartisland.net/) recently acquired a map of intact mass
burials and GPS location information. The site has a registration of deaths,
to access it one must register and subscribe to access -there is a
subscription fee that is used to maintain the website. Subscriptions are for
two months paid in two automatic withdrawals for $15 >from your PayPal
account. The database covers public burials in New York City >from 1980
through December 2011 only. Over 60,500 burials are listed in the database.
If you are looking for a later burial once you are subscribed you can
request assistance with a custom burial. The burial records are transcribed

from documents provided by the New York City Department of Correction.

According to an article on Yahoo, a bill has been introduced in the New
York City Council to transfer the island to the parks administration, but no
hearing has yet been scheduled.
To read the Yahoo article go to: http://tinyurl.com/mtocl5b
Original url:
http://news.yahoo.com/one-million-buried-mass-graves-forbidden-york-island-162353758.html

Thank you to David Oseas for alerting us to the article.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Prime Minister David Cameron [UK] has appealed to every British Shoah
Holocaust survivor to take part in a project which will give the former
refugees the opportunity to provide their views on the future of Holocaust
education in the UK. The event is scheduled for May 5. The Prime Minister's
project crosses party-lines and multi-faith lines in order to investigate
the best ways to educate future generations as the Shoah survivors are of an
age that they will not be with us for much longer and their stories need to
be preserved so what they went through is never forgotten.

If you are a resident of the UK and a Holocaust survivor or refugee of Nazi
persecution or if you know of a survivor you are encouraged to contact the
Holocaust Commission at info@... or write to
them at: The Holocaust Commission, PO Box 72270, London, SW1P 9WU .

A series of public meetings will be held by the Board of Deputies in London
and Leeds to collect information to respond to the Commission. The first
session for the public for ages 16-25 is scheduled for April 23 at JW3 (The
Jewish Community Centre of London [ https://www.jw3.org.uk/ ] )

For more information read: http://www.thejc.com/node/117307

Thank you to Saul Issroff for alerting us to this project.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Genners...

A RUBENSTEIN cousin of mine made a tape years ago about his life in
Verbovets, Podolia. He mentioned going on a "buying trip" for his father's
Store at age 12. He said it was a 4-5 day trip in the snow in a horse drawn
wagon and stopped in a town called Mollef on the Dniester River. I found a
town called Miliye not on the Dniester but on another river, Cheremosh.
This town is 102 miles >from Verbovets could it could possibly be the same
town as the one Alan is looking for below?

This is the JewishGen Locality Page for Miliye, Ukraine:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1046709

Sandy Aaronson
Texas, USA

Researching: RUBENSTEIN, ARONZON, GREENBERG, TOPROVER; Verbovets, Podolia,
Ukraine
COHEN, LEIBOWITZ, WEISS; possibly around Makow Mazowecki, Poland
HIRT, HIRTH, FELD; Lomna>Limna Galacia

**********************
Subject: Molaff
From: ab.cohen@...
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:20:07 +0000 (UTC)

Dear All

I have asked this once before but never solved the problem but as
There seems a renewed interest in finding Mohilev I'll ask again.

Family says my g'father came >from Vitepsk; on his naturalization
papers and UK passport it states he came >from Molaff, Vitepsk, Russia.

I have assumed Molaff is Mohilev but have never found one associated
with Vitepsk.

Has anyone any ideas please?

Alan Cohen, researching KUNYIN >from Vitepsk.

Prime Minister David Cameron [UK] has appealed to every British Shoah
Holocaust survivor to take part in a project which will give the former
refugees the opportunity to provide their views on the future of Holocaust
education in the UK. The event is scheduled for May 5. The Prime Minister's
project crosses party-lines and multi-faith lines in order to investigate
the best ways to educate future generations as the Shoah survivors are of an
age that they will not be with us for much longer and their stories need to
be preserved so what they went through is never forgotten.

If you are a resident of the UK and a Holocaust survivor or refugee of Nazi
persecution or if you know of a survivor you are encouraged to contact the
Holocaust Commission at info@... or write to
them at: The Holocaust Commission, PO Box 72270, London, SW1P 9WU .

A series of public meetings will be held by the Board of Deputies in London
and Leeds to collect information to respond to the Commission. The first
session for the public for ages 16-25 is scheduled for April 23 at JW3 (The
Jewish Community Centre of London [ https://www.jw3.org.uk/ ] )

For more information read: http://www.thejc.com/node/117307

Thank you to Saul Issroff for alerting us to this project.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

On Hart Island, in the east of the Bronx lays a public cemetery where one
million people have been buried-one of the largest cemeteries in the US-but
visiting is prohibited. The cemetery has been in existence since 1869 and
bodies are buried three coffins-deep. Buried there are still-born babies,
the homeless, the poor and the unclaimed. Small white posts in the ground
mark each 150 adult bodies. A thousand children and infants are buried
together per grave. Approximately 1,500 people are buried there annually. It
is forbidden to photograph the cemetery and it is run by the Department of
Corrections. Records of those buried there are "sketchy" at best- they have
been lost or burned and the Department of Corrections says they don't have
the infrastructure to permit visitors or maintain files. The Hart Island
Project (http://hartisland.net/) recently acquired a map of intact mass
burials and GPS location information. The site has a registration of deaths,
to access it one must register and subscribe to access -there is a
subscription fee that is used to maintain the website. Subscriptions are for
two months paid in two automatic withdrawals for $15 >from your PayPal
account. The database covers public burials in New York City >from 1980
through December 2011 only. Over 60,500 burials are listed in the database.
If you are looking for a later burial once you are subscribed you can
request assistance with a custom burial. The burial records are transcribed

from documents provided by the New York City Department of Correction.

According to an article on Yahoo, a bill has been introduced in the New
York City Council to transfer the island to the parks administration, but no
hearing has yet been scheduled.
To read the Yahoo article go to: http://tinyurl.com/mtocl5b
Original url:
http://news.yahoo.com/one-million-buried-mass-graves-forbidden-york-island-162353758.html

Thank you to David Oseas for alerting us to the article.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Genners...

A RUBENSTEIN cousin of mine made a tape years ago about his life in
Verbovets, Podolia. He mentioned going on a "buying trip" for his father's
Store at age 12. He said it was a 4-5 day trip in the snow in a horse drawn
wagon and stopped in a town called Mollef on the Dniester River. I found a
town called Miliye not on the Dniester but on another river, Cheremosh.
This town is 102 miles >from Verbovets could it could possibly be the same
town as the one Alan is looking for below?

This is the JewishGen Locality Page for Miliye, Ukraine:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1046709

Sandy Aaronson
Texas, USA

Researching: RUBENSTEIN, ARONZON, GREENBERG, TOPROVER; Verbovets, Podolia,
Ukraine
COHEN, LEIBOWITZ, WEISS; possibly around Makow Mazowecki, Poland
HIRT, HIRTH, FELD; Lomna>Limna Galacia

**********************
Subject: Molaff
From: ab.cohen@...
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:20:07 +0000 (UTC)

Dear All

I have asked this once before but never solved the problem but as
There seems a renewed interest in finding Mohilev I'll ask again.

Family says my g'father came >from Vitepsk; on his naturalization
papers and UK passport it states he came >from Molaff, Vitepsk, Russia.

I have assumed Molaff is Mohilev but have never found one associated
with Vitepsk.

Has anyone any ideas please?

Alan Cohen, researching KUNYIN >from Vitepsk.

I have attempted to locate members of my maternal grandfather's family Salli
GRUNHUT born 1880 in Tauberbischofsheim, Main-Tauber-Kreis,
Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany. His father, Hirsch GRUNHUT b. 1850 in Konigheim.
Until recently I believed that Salli was an only child.
I think that I have discovered GRUNHUT siblings to Salli.
Hirsch was married twice: first to Babette SIEGELBACH b. in Heilbronn d.
1885. According to what I have discovered is that they had four children;
Martha b. 1879; Salli b. 1880; Brunette b. 1882 m. Moritz Sommerfeld (and
they had one son, Gerhard; Heinrich b. 1883 and Adolf b. 1885 all born in
Tauberbischofsheim.
Hirsch then married Bertha LEHMANN b. 1851 in Gerolzhofen and d. 1915. They
had They had two children; Amalia b. 1888, and Frida b. 1889 both born in
Tauberbischofsheim.
Very recently, I discovered that my mother Betty LOBBENBERG nee GRUNHUT
(daughter of Salli GRUNHUT and Rosa MARX) had a cousin, Ilse BROCH nee
GRUNHUT b. 20 July 1914 in Tauberbischofsheim. Her mother was not married at
the time of her birth. She has a son living in England but has no knowledge
of his grandmother.
I have contacted various offices in Tauberbischofsheim and area without any
success. If anyone out there has any knowledge of these families or can
point me to a publication, I would appreciate it very much.

Chag Pesach Sameach, Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto, Ontario, Canada JGID 91012

I have attempted to locate members of my maternal grandfather's family Salli
GRUNHUT born 1880 in Tauberbischofsheim, Main-Tauber-Kreis,
Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany. His father, Hirsch GRUNHUT b. 1850 in Konigheim.
Until recently I believed that Salli was an only child.
I think that I have discovered GRUNHUT siblings to Salli.
Hirsch was married twice: first to Babette SIEGELBACH b. in Heilbronn d.
1885. According to what I have discovered is that they had four children;
Martha b. 1879; Salli b. 1880; Brunette b. 1882 m. Moritz Sommerfeld (and
they had one son, Gerhard; Heinrich b. 1883 and Adolf b. 1885 all born in
Tauberbischofsheim.
Hirsch then married Bertha LEHMANN b. 1851 in Gerolzhofen and d. 1915. They
had They had two children; Amalia b. 1888, and Frida b. 1889 both born in
Tauberbischofsheim.
Very recently, I discovered that my mother Betty LOBBENBERG nee GRUNHUT
(daughter of Salli GRUNHUT and Rosa MARX) had a cousin, Ilse BROCH nee
GRUNHUT b. 20 July 1914 in Tauberbischofsheim. Her mother was not married at
the time of her birth. She has a son living in England but has no knowledge
of his grandmother.
I have contacted various offices in Tauberbischofsheim and area without any
success. If anyone out there has any knowledge of these families or can
point me to a publication, I would appreciate it very much.

Chag Pesach Sameach, Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto, Ontario, Canada JGID 91012

Looks like a menorah to me!

Didn't realize Perechyn was such a large town.

Lynn Saul
Researching FRIEDMAN Porosko

--Sent >from my iPhone

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.

The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.

I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.

On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.

I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Jan


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.

The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.

I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.

On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.

I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Jan


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Looks like a menorah to me!

Didn't realize Perechyn was such a large town.

Lynn Saul
Researching FRIEDMAN Porosko

--Sent >from my iPhone

Hi,

In the short contemporary tourism promotion video about Perechyn
(Perecseny in former Ung megye) at the following link, there is an
interesting symbol up high on an old gate. It appears briefly at :18
seconds in. Is it Jewish-related... or any idea what it means?

Two have said it looks like a menorah. (I already asked the
Subcarpathian SIG but reckon that this might be a more
geographically-widespread design...)

I am not sure if "1903" is the house number or year of construction.

http://youtu.be/s8lhHI8wVMQ


Thanks!

--
Todd Edelman
Los Angeles

Researching: KUNSZTLER, SUSZHOLCZ, MOSKOVITZ and FRIEDMAN in Perechyn
and surroundings

Hi,

In the short contemporary tourism promotion video about Perechyn
(Perecseny in former Ung megye) at the following link, there is an
interesting symbol up high on an old gate. It appears briefly at :18
seconds in. Is it Jewish-related... or any idea what it means?

Two have said it looks like a menorah. (I already asked the
Subcarpathian SIG but reckon that this might be a more
geographically-widespread design...)

I am not sure if "1903" is the house number or year of construction.

http://youtu.be/s8lhHI8wVMQ


Thanks!

--
Todd Edelman
Los Angeles

Researching: KUNSZTLER, SUSZHOLCZ, MOSKOVITZ and FRIEDMAN in Perechyn
and surroundings

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.



The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.



I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.



On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.



I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.



Thank you in advance for your assistance.



Jan Meisels Allen

Moderator: Please contact Jan off-list if you have information to offer.





Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.



The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.



I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.



On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.



I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.



Thank you in advance for your assistance.



Jan Meisels Allen

Moderator: Please contact Jan off-list if you have information to offer.





Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Dear Jan,

Thank you for posting your inquiry and giving us the opportunity for
input - that's very useful.

I could not agree more with Fritz, and would like to add the
Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin (Preussischer Kulturbesitz) to the list.
A few years back I was able to access the Oberschlesischer Wanderer
(newspaper) online. It was published >from 1828 - 1945, and had quite
a bit of genealogically useful information (birth/death/marriage
announcements, business advertisements), especially for the 19th
century for Silesia. Then it was also suddenly taken offline. I wrote
to them and was informed that the Oberschlesischer Wanderer had been a
Nazi propaganda tool after 1933 and that is why it was taken offline.
I wrote back, asking them why then would they take off everything and
not just the years after 1933 but never even received a response back.

After reading Fritz' post, I think there might be a more widespread
issue here that should be addressed. Thanks again,

Irene Peters, Dallas, TX iup@...

Dear Jan,

Thank you for posting your inquiry and giving us the opportunity for
input - that's very useful.

I could not agree more with Fritz, and would like to add the
Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin (Preussischer Kulturbesitz) to the list.
A few years back I was able to access the Oberschlesischer Wanderer
(newspaper) online. It was published >from 1828 - 1945, and had quite
a bit of genealogically useful information (birth/death/marriage
announcements, business advertisements), especially for the 19th
century for Silesia. Then it was also suddenly taken offline. I wrote
to them and was informed that the Oberschlesischer Wanderer had been a
Nazi propaganda tool after 1933 and that is why it was taken offline.
I wrote back, asking them why then would they take off everything and
not just the years after 1933 but never even received a response back.

After reading Fritz' post, I think there might be a more widespread
issue here that should be addressed. Thanks again,

Irene Peters, Dallas, TX iup@...

For those researching people in Nagy Tarna, Szatmar County (now Tarna Mare, Romania
): I recently obtained a 1945 citizen list of the town.

Apparently, everyone on this list must have survived the Holocaust/WII, but I am
not certain. So if you have family members who might have been/should have been
there in 1945, please let me know and I will take a look for them.

Beth Long
Salt Lake City

Moderator: Please contact Beth off-list if this list is of interest.

For those researching people in Nagy Tarna, Szatmar County (now Tarna Mare, Romania
): I recently obtained a 1945 citizen list of the town.

Apparently, everyone on this list must have survived the Holocaust/WII, but I am
not certain. So if you have family members who might have been/should have been
there in 1945, please let me know and I will take a look for them.

Beth Long
Salt Lake City

Moderator: Please contact Beth off-list if this list is of interest.