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Rescheduled Meeting: Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia (JGSGP), South Jersey Affiliate #general

Lois Sernoff
 

Rescheduled Meeting: Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia
(JGSGP), South Jersey Affiliate

Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 7: 30 PM
Place: Adeth Emanu-el, 205 Elbo Lane, Mt. Laurel, NJ, 08054

Subject: Genealogical Resources at the New Jersey State Archives, post 1850
Speaker: Mrs. Bette M. Epstein, Supervising Archivist and Head of Reference
Services, New Jersey State Archives.

Mrs. Epstein will give a PowerPoint presentation, discussing the various
records held by the New Jersey State Archives useful for genealogical
research, using "Jewish"
examples. She will cover, but not be limited to State Vital Records, Wills,
Naturalization Records,
Deeds, Census Records, and Military Records.

Please contact Bernard Cedar at bernardcedar@... for further
information about So. Jersey Affiliate

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
JGLois@...


[European Union] European Parliament Votes On Data Privacy Regulation in Plenary Session #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

On March 12, 2014 the European Union Parliament ( Plenary) met in
Strasbourg, France and voted in favor of the proposed data privacy
regulation that has been reported to this forum previously. The plenary vote
was: 621 votes in favor, 10 against and 22 abstentions for the Regulation
and 371 votes in favor, 276 against and 30 abstentions for the Directive.
You may recall that some of the EU states preferred the data privacy be a
directive rather than a regulation. A directive, unlike a regulation, gives
the member country more ability to interpret the law to their liking. This
is the first step in process where the two legislative bodies that must
approve the proposed regulation before it can become law.

For those who may not be familiar with the structure of the European Union
there is a difference between the European Union Parliament and the European
Union Council of Ministers. Both are part of the bicameral European Union
Legislature.

The European Union Parliament which is who met in Strasbourg, are the
directly elected parliamentary institution of the EU. It is composed of 766
members and is directly elected every five years. Together with the Council
of the European Union (the Council) and the European Commission, it
exercises the legislative function of the EU According to Wikipedia it has
legislative power that the Council and Commission do not possess, it does
not formally possess legislative initiative authority.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament )

The Council of European Union is part of the essentially bicameral EU
legislature, representing the executives of 28 EU member states-the other
legislative body is the EU Parliament . The Council is comprised of the 28
National Ministers -one for each member of the European Union.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union )

To read more about how proposals become law in the European Union see:
http://europa.eu/eu-law/decision-making/procedures/index_en.htm . For a
list of the current 28 EU member countries see:
http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm

As both organizations share legislative responsibilities equally, for
legislation to become law both must agree for a proposal to become law.

EU Commission Vice President Viviane Reding stated after the vote: "Data
Protection is made in Europe. Strong data protection rules must be Europe's
trade mark. Following the U.S. data spying scandals, data protection is more
than ever a competitive advantage." (The Commission is the executive body
of the European Union.)

To become law the proposed regulation needs to be adopted by the Council of
Ministers. Even with changes in the Parliament due to elections in May EU
Commission Vice President Reding asserted the Parliament's position is "set
in stone" and won't change with different members in the Council. The
Parliament and the Council will "negotiate" once the Council defines its
position. The next meeting of Justice Ministers on the data protection
reform will take place in June 2014.

The regulation does the following:

1. Establishes a single, pan-European law for data protection- no
longer each EU member having their own data protection laws
2. Establishes a 'one-stop-shop' for businesses- no longer companies
having to deal with multiple regulatory bodies.
3. Establishes same rules for all companies regardless of where they
are located-- companies based outside of Europe will have to apply the same
rules when doing business in the EU. Economic penalties for non-compliance
4. Establishes a "right to be forgotten" for the individual
5. Requires the individual to give consent to process the individual's
data

In the press release by the EU after the Plenary vote they asserted under
"the right to be forgotten" is not an absolute right. There are cases where
there is a legitimate reason to keep data in a data base. The example they
used is the archives of a newspaper. It is clear that the right to be
forgotten cannot amount to a right to re-write or erase history. The "right"
also carries with it the "right to erasure" The EU proposal states the
individual has the "right to erasure" where a court or regulatory authority
based in the Union has ruled as final and absolute that the data concerned
must be erased. This provision is Article 17 of the proposed regulation. The
genealogical community is most concerned with this provision so that future
records are preserved.

To read the press release about the March 12 Plenary vote see:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-14-186_en.htm

Past postings on the European Union and the proposed data privacy
regulation may be found in the Records Access Alert archives:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/ . You must
be a registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be
finalized..

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: This account is posted for informational purposes only,
and is not intended as the start of a discussion thread.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rescheduled Meeting: Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia (JGSGP), South Jersey Affiliate #general

Lois Sernoff
 

Rescheduled Meeting: Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia
(JGSGP), South Jersey Affiliate

Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 7: 30 PM
Place: Adeth Emanu-el, 205 Elbo Lane, Mt. Laurel, NJ, 08054

Subject: Genealogical Resources at the New Jersey State Archives, post 1850
Speaker: Mrs. Bette M. Epstein, Supervising Archivist and Head of Reference
Services, New Jersey State Archives.

Mrs. Epstein will give a PowerPoint presentation, discussing the various
records held by the New Jersey State Archives useful for genealogical
research, using "Jewish"
examples. She will cover, but not be limited to State Vital Records, Wills,
Naturalization Records,
Deeds, Census Records, and Military Records.

Please contact Bernard Cedar at bernardcedar@... for further
information about So. Jersey Affiliate

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
JGLois@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [European Union] European Parliament Votes On Data Privacy Regulation in Plenary Session #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

On March 12, 2014 the European Union Parliament ( Plenary) met in
Strasbourg, France and voted in favor of the proposed data privacy
regulation that has been reported to this forum previously. The plenary vote
was: 621 votes in favor, 10 against and 22 abstentions for the Regulation
and 371 votes in favor, 276 against and 30 abstentions for the Directive.
You may recall that some of the EU states preferred the data privacy be a
directive rather than a regulation. A directive, unlike a regulation, gives
the member country more ability to interpret the law to their liking. This
is the first step in process where the two legislative bodies that must
approve the proposed regulation before it can become law.

For those who may not be familiar with the structure of the European Union
there is a difference between the European Union Parliament and the European
Union Council of Ministers. Both are part of the bicameral European Union
Legislature.

The European Union Parliament which is who met in Strasbourg, are the
directly elected parliamentary institution of the EU. It is composed of 766
members and is directly elected every five years. Together with the Council
of the European Union (the Council) and the European Commission, it
exercises the legislative function of the EU According to Wikipedia it has
legislative power that the Council and Commission do not possess, it does
not formally possess legislative initiative authority.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament )

The Council of European Union is part of the essentially bicameral EU
legislature, representing the executives of 28 EU member states-the other
legislative body is the EU Parliament . The Council is comprised of the 28
National Ministers -one for each member of the European Union.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union )

To read more about how proposals become law in the European Union see:
http://europa.eu/eu-law/decision-making/procedures/index_en.htm . For a
list of the current 28 EU member countries see:
http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm

As both organizations share legislative responsibilities equally, for
legislation to become law both must agree for a proposal to become law.

EU Commission Vice President Viviane Reding stated after the vote: "Data
Protection is made in Europe. Strong data protection rules must be Europe's
trade mark. Following the U.S. data spying scandals, data protection is more
than ever a competitive advantage." (The Commission is the executive body
of the European Union.)

To become law the proposed regulation needs to be adopted by the Council of
Ministers. Even with changes in the Parliament due to elections in May EU
Commission Vice President Reding asserted the Parliament's position is "set
in stone" and won't change with different members in the Council. The
Parliament and the Council will "negotiate" once the Council defines its
position. The next meeting of Justice Ministers on the data protection
reform will take place in June 2014.

The regulation does the following:

1. Establishes a single, pan-European law for data protection- no
longer each EU member having their own data protection laws
2. Establishes a 'one-stop-shop' for businesses- no longer companies
having to deal with multiple regulatory bodies.
3. Establishes same rules for all companies regardless of where they
are located-- companies based outside of Europe will have to apply the same
rules when doing business in the EU. Economic penalties for non-compliance
4. Establishes a "right to be forgotten" for the individual
5. Requires the individual to give consent to process the individual's
data

In the press release by the EU after the Plenary vote they asserted under
"the right to be forgotten" is not an absolute right. There are cases where
there is a legitimate reason to keep data in a data base. The example they
used is the archives of a newspaper. It is clear that the right to be
forgotten cannot amount to a right to re-write or erase history. The "right"
also carries with it the "right to erasure" The EU proposal states the
individual has the "right to erasure" where a court or regulatory authority
based in the Union has ruled as final and absolute that the data concerned
must be erased. This provision is Article 17 of the proposed regulation. The
genealogical community is most concerned with this provision so that future
records are preserved.

To read the press release about the March 12 Plenary vote see:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-14-186_en.htm

Past postings on the European Union and the proposed data privacy
regulation may be found in the Records Access Alert archives:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/ . You must
be a registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be
finalized..

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: This account is posted for informational purposes only,
and is not intended as the start of a discussion thread.


Edward ZELINSKY family - To San Francisco before the gold rush #usa

jplowens@...
 

On a recent visit to San Francisco I spent some time exploring
Tiburon, just north of the city. Before this year the only thing I
knew about Tiburon was that the property values and scenic views there
were amazing, even for the Bay Area.

Through a chance meeting and conversation with a local store owner I
learned that much of Tiburon (he said) was owned by a ZELINSKY family.
Their painting company had a long-term contract to keep the Golden
Gate Bridge golden. Like many of our ancestors, they worked hard,
saved money and invested in real estate. It's not an unusual story
but it's set in an extraordinary place. I've wondered if the painting
contractor ZELINSKYs had been and remained Jewish. An obituary I
found today indicates positively on both counts.

"A memorial service for Edward Zelinsky, 82 -- philanthropist,
historian and Musee owner" was held 10 years ago at Congregation
Emanu-El in San Francisco.

http://tinyurl.com/kle8akv

Live and learn. Long ago I learned that Joseph B. STRAUSS, chief
engineer of the Golden Gate Bridge wasn't a close relative. Now I know
that the ZELINSKYs who painted his bridge weren't either. But the
stories of both those families are very interesting.

John Lowens, Suburban NYC

Researching STRAUS - Udenheim > Kaiserslautern, Rheinpfalz, Germany >
Mississippi > Arkansas > Gloversville & NY, NY


Early American SIG #USA Edward ZELINSKY family - To San Francisco before the gold rush #usa

jplowens@...
 

On a recent visit to San Francisco I spent some time exploring
Tiburon, just north of the city. Before this year the only thing I
knew about Tiburon was that the property values and scenic views there
were amazing, even for the Bay Area.

Through a chance meeting and conversation with a local store owner I
learned that much of Tiburon (he said) was owned by a ZELINSKY family.
Their painting company had a long-term contract to keep the Golden
Gate Bridge golden. Like many of our ancestors, they worked hard,
saved money and invested in real estate. It's not an unusual story
but it's set in an extraordinary place. I've wondered if the painting
contractor ZELINSKYs had been and remained Jewish. An obituary I
found today indicates positively on both counts.

"A memorial service for Edward Zelinsky, 82 -- philanthropist,
historian and Musee owner" was held 10 years ago at Congregation
Emanu-El in San Francisco.

http://tinyurl.com/kle8akv

Live and learn. Long ago I learned that Joseph B. STRAUSS, chief
engineer of the Golden Gate Bridge wasn't a close relative. Now I know
that the ZELINSKYs who painted his bridge weren't either. But the
stories of both those families are very interesting.

John Lowens, Suburban NYC

Researching STRAUS - Udenheim > Kaiserslautern, Rheinpfalz, Germany >
Mississippi > Arkansas > Gloversville & NY, NY


Re: Which Belitsa (nr. Gomel) would this have been, in 1903? #belarus

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:
I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .
It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Which Belitsa (nr. Gomel) would this have been, in 1903? #belarus

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:
I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .
It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >


Which Belitsa (nr. Gomel) would this have been, in 1903? #belarus

Martha Forsyth
 

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa, Novaya
Belitsa (now Novobelitskiy raion, a suburb of Homel), and Homel.
However - it has finally dawned on me that the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know. Instead, I
need to find out what this description:

"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda Mogilevskoy
gubernii"
('a petty bourgeois >from the Belitsa community of the Homel uyezd
of the Mohliev
guberniya') IN EARLY 1903 (April, to be exact)

might have meant when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav at that time.
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa", or to what
is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" (which, in fact, had been
administratively a suburb of Gomel for some 40+ years)?

And, if anyone has any idea how I can go about searching other records
for that particular Belitsa, I would love to hear them!

Thanks for any insights -
Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Which Belitsa (nr. Gomel) would this have been, in 1903? #belarus

Martha Forsyth
 

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa, Novaya
Belitsa (now Novobelitskiy raion, a suburb of Homel), and Homel.
However - it has finally dawned on me that the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know. Instead, I
need to find out what this description:

"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda Mogilevskoy
gubernii"
('a petty bourgeois >from the Belitsa community of the Homel uyezd
of the Mohliev
guberniya') IN EARLY 1903 (April, to be exact)

might have meant when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav at that time.
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa", or to what
is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" (which, in fact, had been
administratively a suburb of Gomel for some 40+ years)?

And, if anyone has any idea how I can go about searching other records
for that particular Belitsa, I would love to hear them!

Thanks for any insights -
Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA


Re: Which Belitsa (nr. Gomel) would this have been, in 1903? #belarus

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:
I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .
It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Which Belitsa (nr. Gomel) would this have been, in 1903? #ukraine

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:
I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .
It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >


MARMORSTEIN, Sandor or Samuel #rabbinic

Miunthel -
 

I am looking for information on Rabbi and Cantor Samuel/Sandor
MARMORSTEIN, born in Sziget in 1876.
(Also resided in Zilina, Holic, Vienna and Budapest)

I have located several American newspaper articles that refer to him
as "great and famous" rabbi and cantor who sang on the "great stages
of Europe". Others refer to him as a captain in the Hungarian army.

I have not been able to find any European sources that back up any of
these things. I would particularly like to know if a rabbi could have
served as a captain in World War I, if there is there a good place to
look for cantors who sang on the "great European stages". Thank you
for your time.

Sincerely,

Miranda Flint


BLATT #rabbinic

Cyril Fox <c-fox4@...>
 

Looking for Kalman/Kelman/Calman Halevi BLATT born ca. late 1840's or early
1850's. and antecedents.

Bella Fox c-fox4@...


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic MARMORSTEIN, Sandor or Samuel #rabbinic

Miunthel -
 

I am looking for information on Rabbi and Cantor Samuel/Sandor
MARMORSTEIN, born in Sziget in 1876.
(Also resided in Zilina, Holic, Vienna and Budapest)

I have located several American newspaper articles that refer to him
as "great and famous" rabbi and cantor who sang on the "great stages
of Europe". Others refer to him as a captain in the Hungarian army.

I have not been able to find any European sources that back up any of
these things. I would particularly like to know if a rabbi could have
served as a captain in World War I, if there is there a good place to
look for cantors who sang on the "great European stages". Thank you
for your time.

Sincerely,

Miranda Flint


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic BLATT #rabbinic

Cyril Fox <c-fox4@...>
 

Looking for Kalman/Kelman/Calman Halevi BLATT born ca. late 1840's or early
1850's. and antecedents.

Bella Fox c-fox4@...


TANNENBAUM from Kamad Frankel family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Rabbi Meir Marton TANNENBAUM, born in Viszló, ABD Fülek (>from 1882),
Torna and then Putnok (>from 1897), succeeding his father, married 1)
about 1875 to Hermina Reichman, born in Dobtita in 1855 and died in
Fülek on September 4, 1885 and 2) in Fülek on November 15, 1885 to
Julia (Judith, Judes), born in Fülek in 1854, daughter of Adolf
Buchler and Roza Kohn.
His three daughters, all born in Fülek, >from his first wife were -
Hani, born on August 19, 1880, Kati, born on July 15, 1882 and Roza,
born on September 17, 1884.

>from another source I only have them as "daughter" - can anyone help
fit these three ladies with their husbands?

1. Daughter, married R. Samuel Benjamin Halevi Jungreis, born in 1873,
ABD Fulek (>from 1898), son of R. Moses Jungreis, ABD Kashau, son of R.
Shraga Feish Jungreis.
.2. Daughter, married R. Haim Judah Teitelbaum, born in 1878, ABD
Putnok (>from 1904) and then Kaba, Hadju >from 1909, son of R. David
Teitelbaum.[1]
.3. Wife of her cousin, R. Moses Tannenbaum, ABD Putnok.

Neil Rosenstein


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic TANNENBAUM from Kamad Frankel family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Rabbi Meir Marton TANNENBAUM, born in Viszló, ABD Fülek (>from 1882),
Torna and then Putnok (>from 1897), succeeding his father, married 1)
about 1875 to Hermina Reichman, born in Dobtita in 1855 and died in
Fülek on September 4, 1885 and 2) in Fülek on November 15, 1885 to
Julia (Judith, Judes), born in Fülek in 1854, daughter of Adolf
Buchler and Roza Kohn.
His three daughters, all born in Fülek, >from his first wife were -
Hani, born on August 19, 1880, Kati, born on July 15, 1882 and Roza,
born on September 17, 1884.

>from another source I only have them as "daughter" - can anyone help
fit these three ladies with their husbands?

1. Daughter, married R. Samuel Benjamin Halevi Jungreis, born in 1873,
ABD Fulek (>from 1898), son of R. Moses Jungreis, ABD Kashau, son of R.
Shraga Feish Jungreis.
.2. Daughter, married R. Haim Judah Teitelbaum, born in 1878, ABD
Putnok (>from 1904) and then Kaba, Hadju >from 1909, son of R. David
Teitelbaum.[1]
.3. Wife of her cousin, R. Moses Tannenbaum, ABD Putnok.

Neil Rosenstein


Re: ZINS (Tzinz) family of Sanz (Nowy Sac) #rabbinic

Marcel Apsel
 

Hi Neil,

About R. David Aryeh Leib Zins I can tell you the following. He wrote also
the Sefer Ateret Yehoshua, a biography of the Pnei Yehoshua (1680-1756) who
is my ancestor, though I did not find the exact link with him because of 1
or two women. The only proof I have is the inscriptions of two tombstones in
Frankfurt of the 1920s where it is written that the deceased were 'Neched
Pnei Yehoshua'. I can go back two generations back until the beginning of
the 19th century with a dayan Israel in Lvov (either Aberbach or Auerbach).
I have a family chart of over 1,000 people were there are quite some Landau
mentioned, descending of Nathan of Dobromil, the eldest son of the Pnei
Yehoshua.

Marcel Apsel
Antwerpen, Belgium

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From: Neil Rosenstein
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1. R. David Aryey Leib Zins, born in 1890 and perished in the Holocaust,
author of Gedulat Yehonatan, published in Piotrkow in 1930 with an
introduction of his family connections and ancestry.
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