Hi - I have a 1906 UK marriage certificate, for a Simon SHIFMAN, and he gave
his address as "27 lady lane" in Leeds.

I'm trying to find out if Simon was living there by himself, or whether he
was living with his parents (Abramam Jospeh & Annie). I'm trying to determine
if there were any Shifman relatives that also lived in Leeds.

Thanks for any help.

Mark London
Natick, MA
USA

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Hi - I have a 1906 UK marriage certificate, for a Simon SHIFMAN, and he gave
his address as "27 lady lane" in Leeds.

I'm trying to find out if Simon was living there by himself, or whether he
was living with his parents (Abramam Jospeh & Annie). I'm trying to determine
if there were any Shifman relatives that also lived in Leeds.

Thanks for any help.

Mark London
Natick, MA
USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to sign one's full name to messages.

Global Galician Gatherings in 2014:

Gesher Galicia will be offering presentations in a variety of
international locales including Australia, Israel and New York over
the next three months and we look forward to meeting many
researchers in person at these events!

I will be traveling coast-to-coast through Oz >from March 21- 31,
sponsored by the Australian Genealogical Society and its various
local branches and historical societies in Sydney, Canberra, Perth
and Melbourne. Gesher Galicia board member Marla Raucher
Osborn will be speaking three times in Israel and board member
John Diener will join me in Manhattan in April for our annual spring
regional meeting at the Center for Jewish History. Full program
descriptions can be found on our home page:
http://www.geshergalicia.org in the "Upcoming Program" section,
by clicking the titles, but here are some highlights in date order:

Sunday, March 23 - Sydney

9:30 AM - 5:00 PM: "Galicia Galore and More" - A full day seminar
sponsored by the Australian Jewish Genealogical Society, Sydney with
Pamela Weisberger. Two presentations: "Cartography for Genealogists:
Maps for Family History Research," and "Exploring the Gesher Galicia
Website," plus one-on-one consultations and "Ask the Experts" and a
"Walk Through the Websites (of JewishGen)" sessions. Kosher lunch
and morning/afternoon teas are included in the registration fee. See:
www.ajgs.org.au , email: genealogy@.... Location: North
Shorem Synagogue, Treatts Road, Lindfield. Sydney. PDF Registration
Form here: http://www.ajgs.org.au/RegistrationFormSeminar2014.pdf.
(Members $50, family of two, $75, non-members $85 includes AJGS
membership)

Monday, March 24 - Canberra

7:45 PM: "Austria, Poland, Ukraine: 3 Countries, 5 Archives, 12
Wonderful Days of Discovery" - with Pamela Weisberger. Jointly
sponsored by the Australian Jewish Historical Society ACT and the
Australian Jewish Genealogical Society at the National Jewish Memorial
Center, Forrest, Canberra. There will be a reception to mark the 30th
anniversary of the ACT. More info: Sylvia Deutsch
deutand@...

Thursday, March 27 - Perth

7:30 PM: "Snakes & Ladders: Innovative & International Approaches to
Genealogy" with Pamela Weisberger. Noranda Chabad Synagogue, 11
Garson Court, Noranda (near Perth,) Western Australia, sponsored by
the Jewish Historical & Genealogical Society of Western Australia.
Members $3.00, non-members $6.00, including kosher supper. More
info contact: jhgs@...

Monday, March 31 - Melbourne

7:30 PM - 9:30 PM: "Exploring the Archives: Unique & Unusual
Resources in Galician and Polish Research" with Pamela Weisberger -
Beth Weizmann Jewish Community Centre, 306 Hawthorn Road, South
Caulfield, 3162, sponsored by the Australian Jewish Genealogical
Society Victoria. Members $5.00, non-members $10.00. More info:
Admin@...

Sunday, April 6 - Jerusalem

6:30 PM: "Rohatyn: A Typical Galician Town in Western Ukraine -
Challenges and Issues in Preserving Jewish Memory" - Marla Raucher
Osborn - AACI Jerusalem, 37 Pierre Koenig, 4th floor, Jerusalem,
sponsored by the Israel Genealogical Research Association (IGRA).
Info at: http://genealogy.org.il/

Sunday, May 18 - New York City

11:00 AM: Gesher Galicia will return to Manhattan's Center for Jewish
History at 15 W. 16th St. for our annual spring SIG meeting plus:
"Austria, Poland, Ukraine: 3 Countries, 5 Archives, 12 Wonderful Days
of Discovery." John Diener & Pamela Weisberger will discuss our April
2013 to Austria, Poland, and Ukraine to attend the opening of the
building housing the Museum of the History of Polish Jews in Warsaw,
resaerching archives in Vienna, Warsaw, Przemysl, Lviv and Ternopil
and traveling to our Ukrainian shtetls with Alex and Natalie Dunai.

Wednesday, May 21 - Tel Aviv

7:00 PM: "Historic Cadastral Maps as a Resource for Genealogists:
Rohatyn 1846 Map as Example" - Marla Raucher Osborn - Bet Ariela
Public Library, 25 Shaul Hamelech Blvd., Tel Aviv, Israel 61332,
sponsored by the Israel Genealogical Association. Info:
http://www.isragen.org.il/

Tuesday, May 27 - Ra'anana

With Marla Raucher Osborn speaking - topic and time TBA.

Some of the Australian programs require advance registration, so
please contact the appropriate society for further information. For
full program descriptions and photos, check out our website program
pages.

If you are interested in bringing a Galician-themed presentation to
your shtetl, village, town or province... let us know!

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@...
http://www.geshergalicia.org

Global Galician Gatherings in 2014:

Gesher Galicia will be offering presentations in a variety of
international locales including Australia, Israel and New York over
the next three months and we look forward to meeting many
researchers in person at these events!

I will be traveling coast-to-coast through Oz >from March 21- 31,
sponsored by the Australian Genealogical Society and its various
local branches and historical societies in Sydney, Canberra, Perth
and Melbourne. Gesher Galicia board member Marla Raucher
Osborn will be speaking three times in Israel and board member
John Diener will join me in Manhattan in April for our annual spring
regional meeting at the Center for Jewish History. Full program
descriptions can be found on our home page:
http://www.geshergalicia.org in the "Upcoming Program" section,
by clicking the titles, but here are some highlights in date order:

Sunday, March 23 - Sydney

9:30 AM - 5:00 PM: "Galicia Galore and More" - A full day seminar
sponsored by the Australian Jewish Genealogical Society, Sydney with
Pamela Weisberger. Two presentations: "Cartography for Genealogists:
Maps for Family History Research," and "Exploring the Gesher Galicia
Website," plus one-on-one consultations and "Ask the Experts" and a
"Walk Through the Websites (of JewishGen)" sessions. Kosher lunch
and morning/afternoon teas are included in the registration fee. See:
www.ajgs.org.au , email: genealogy@.... Location: North
Shorem Synagogue, Treatts Road, Lindfield. Sydney. PDF Registration
Form here: http://www.ajgs.org.au/RegistrationFormSeminar2014.pdf.
(Members $50, family of two, $75, non-members $85 includes AJGS
membership)

Monday, March 24 - Canberra

7:45 PM: "Austria, Poland, Ukraine: 3 Countries, 5 Archives, 12
Wonderful Days of Discovery" - with Pamela Weisberger. Jointly
sponsored by the Australian Jewish Historical Society ACT and the
Australian Jewish Genealogical Society at the National Jewish Memorial
Center, Forrest, Canberra. There will be a reception to mark the 30th
anniversary of the ACT. More info: Sylvia Deutsch
deutand@...

Thursday, March 27 - Perth

7:30 PM: "Snakes & Ladders: Innovative & International Approaches to
Genealogy" with Pamela Weisberger. Noranda Chabad Synagogue, 11
Garson Court, Noranda (near Perth,) Western Australia, sponsored by
the Jewish Historical & Genealogical Society of Western Australia.
Members $3.00, non-members $6.00, including kosher supper. More
info contact: jhgs@...

Monday, March 31 - Melbourne

7:30 PM - 9:30 PM: "Exploring the Archives: Unique & Unusual
Resources in Galician and Polish Research" with Pamela Weisberger -
Beth Weizmann Jewish Community Centre, 306 Hawthorn Road, South
Caulfield, 3162, sponsored by the Australian Jewish Genealogical
Society Victoria. Members $5.00, non-members $10.00. More info:
Admin@...

Sunday, April 6 - Jerusalem

6:30 PM: "Rohatyn: A Typical Galician Town in Western Ukraine -
Challenges and Issues in Preserving Jewish Memory" - Marla Raucher
Osborn - AACI Jerusalem, 37 Pierre Koenig, 4th floor, Jerusalem,
sponsored by the Israel Genealogical Research Association (IGRA).
Info at: http://genealogy.org.il/

Sunday, May 18 - New York City

11:00 AM: Gesher Galicia will return to Manhattan's Center for Jewish
History at 15 W. 16th St. for our annual spring SIG meeting plus:
"Austria, Poland, Ukraine: 3 Countries, 5 Archives, 12 Wonderful Days
of Discovery." John Diener & Pamela Weisberger will discuss our April
2013 to Austria, Poland, and Ukraine to attend the opening of the
building housing the Museum of the History of Polish Jews in Warsaw,
resaerching archives in Vienna, Warsaw, Przemysl, Lviv and Ternopil
and traveling to our Ukrainian shtetls with Alex and Natalie Dunai.

Wednesday, May 21 - Tel Aviv

7:00 PM: "Historic Cadastral Maps as a Resource for Genealogists:
Rohatyn 1846 Map as Example" - Marla Raucher Osborn - Bet Ariela
Public Library, 25 Shaul Hamelech Blvd., Tel Aviv, Israel 61332,
sponsored by the Israel Genealogical Association. Info:
http://www.isragen.org.il/

Tuesday, May 27 - Ra'anana

With Marla Raucher Osborn speaking - topic and time TBA.

Some of the Australian programs require advance registration, so
please contact the appropriate society for further information. For
full program descriptions and photos, check out our website program
pages.

If you are interested in bringing a Galician-themed presentation to
your shtetl, village, town or province... let us know!

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@...
http://www.geshergalicia.org

Rescheduled Meeting: Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia
(JGSGP), South Jersey Affiliate

Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 7: 30 PM
Place: Adeth Emanu-el, 205 Elbo Lane, Mt. Laurel, NJ, 08054

Subject: Genealogical Resources at the New Jersey State Archives, post 1850
Speaker: Mrs. Bette M. Epstein, Supervising Archivist and Head of Reference
Services, New Jersey State Archives.

Mrs. Epstein will give a PowerPoint presentation, discussing the various
records held by the New Jersey State Archives useful for genealogical
research, using "Jewish"
examples. She will cover, but not be limited to State Vital Records, Wills,
Naturalization Records,
Deeds, Census Records, and Military Records.

Please contact Bernard Cedar at bernardcedar@... for further
information about So. Jersey Affiliate

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
JGLois@...

On March 12, 2014 the European Union Parliament ( Plenary) met in
Strasbourg, France and voted in favor of the proposed data privacy
regulation that has been reported to this forum previously. The plenary vote
was: 621 votes in favor, 10 against and 22 abstentions for the Regulation
and 371 votes in favor, 276 against and 30 abstentions for the Directive.
You may recall that some of the EU states preferred the data privacy be a
directive rather than a regulation. A directive, unlike a regulation, gives
the member country more ability to interpret the law to their liking. This
is the first step in process where the two legislative bodies that must
approve the proposed regulation before it can become law.

For those who may not be familiar with the structure of the European Union
there is a difference between the European Union Parliament and the European
Union Council of Ministers. Both are part of the bicameral European Union
Legislature.

The European Union Parliament which is who met in Strasbourg, are the
directly elected parliamentary institution of the EU. It is composed of 766
members and is directly elected every five years. Together with the Council
of the European Union (the Council) and the European Commission, it
exercises the legislative function of the EU According to Wikipedia it has
legislative power that the Council and Commission do not possess, it does
not formally possess legislative initiative authority.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament )

The Council of European Union is part of the essentially bicameral EU
legislature, representing the executives of 28 EU member states-the other
legislative body is the EU Parliament . The Council is comprised of the 28
National Ministers -one for each member of the European Union.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union )

To read more about how proposals become law in the European Union see:
http://europa.eu/eu-law/decision-making/procedures/index_en.htm . For a
list of the current 28 EU member countries see:
http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm

As both organizations share legislative responsibilities equally, for
legislation to become law both must agree for a proposal to become law.

EU Commission Vice President Viviane Reding stated after the vote: "Data
Protection is made in Europe. Strong data protection rules must be Europe's
trade mark. Following the U.S. data spying scandals, data protection is more
than ever a competitive advantage." (The Commission is the executive body
of the European Union.)

To become law the proposed regulation needs to be adopted by the Council of
Ministers. Even with changes in the Parliament due to elections in May EU
Commission Vice President Reding asserted the Parliament's position is "set
in stone" and won't change with different members in the Council. The
Parliament and the Council will "negotiate" once the Council defines its
position. The next meeting of Justice Ministers on the data protection
reform will take place in June 2014.

The regulation does the following:

1. Establishes a single, pan-European law for data protection- no
longer each EU member having their own data protection laws
2. Establishes a 'one-stop-shop' for businesses- no longer companies
having to deal with multiple regulatory bodies.
3. Establishes same rules for all companies regardless of where they
are located-- companies based outside of Europe will have to apply the same
rules when doing business in the EU. Economic penalties for non-compliance
4. Establishes a "right to be forgotten" for the individual
5. Requires the individual to give consent to process the individual's
data

In the press release by the EU after the Plenary vote they asserted under
"the right to be forgotten" is not an absolute right. There are cases where
there is a legitimate reason to keep data in a data base. The example they
used is the archives of a newspaper. It is clear that the right to be
forgotten cannot amount to a right to re-write or erase history. The "right"
also carries with it the "right to erasure" The EU proposal states the
individual has the "right to erasure" where a court or regulatory authority
based in the Union has ruled as final and absolute that the data concerned
must be erased. This provision is Article 17 of the proposed regulation. The
genealogical community is most concerned with this provision so that future
records are preserved.

To read the press release about the March 12 Plenary vote see:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-14-186_en.htm

Past postings on the European Union and the proposed data privacy
regulation may be found in the Records Access Alert archives:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/ . You must
be a registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be
finalized..

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: This account is posted for informational purposes only,
and is not intended as the start of a discussion thread.

Rescheduled Meeting: Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia
(JGSGP), South Jersey Affiliate

Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 7: 30 PM
Place: Adeth Emanu-el, 205 Elbo Lane, Mt. Laurel, NJ, 08054

Subject: Genealogical Resources at the New Jersey State Archives, post 1850
Speaker: Mrs. Bette M. Epstein, Supervising Archivist and Head of Reference
Services, New Jersey State Archives.

Mrs. Epstein will give a PowerPoint presentation, discussing the various
records held by the New Jersey State Archives useful for genealogical
research, using "Jewish"
examples. She will cover, but not be limited to State Vital Records, Wills,
Naturalization Records,
Deeds, Census Records, and Military Records.

Please contact Bernard Cedar at bernardcedar@... for further
information about So. Jersey Affiliate

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
JGLois@...

On March 12, 2014 the European Union Parliament ( Plenary) met in
Strasbourg, France and voted in favor of the proposed data privacy
regulation that has been reported to this forum previously. The plenary vote
was: 621 votes in favor, 10 against and 22 abstentions for the Regulation
and 371 votes in favor, 276 against and 30 abstentions for the Directive.
You may recall that some of the EU states preferred the data privacy be a
directive rather than a regulation. A directive, unlike a regulation, gives
the member country more ability to interpret the law to their liking. This
is the first step in process where the two legislative bodies that must
approve the proposed regulation before it can become law.

For those who may not be familiar with the structure of the European Union
there is a difference between the European Union Parliament and the European
Union Council of Ministers. Both are part of the bicameral European Union
Legislature.

The European Union Parliament which is who met in Strasbourg, are the
directly elected parliamentary institution of the EU. It is composed of 766
members and is directly elected every five years. Together with the Council
of the European Union (the Council) and the European Commission, it
exercises the legislative function of the EU According to Wikipedia it has
legislative power that the Council and Commission do not possess, it does
not formally possess legislative initiative authority.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament )

The Council of European Union is part of the essentially bicameral EU
legislature, representing the executives of 28 EU member states-the other
legislative body is the EU Parliament . The Council is comprised of the 28
National Ministers -one for each member of the European Union.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union )

To read more about how proposals become law in the European Union see:
http://europa.eu/eu-law/decision-making/procedures/index_en.htm . For a
list of the current 28 EU member countries see:
http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm

As both organizations share legislative responsibilities equally, for
legislation to become law both must agree for a proposal to become law.

EU Commission Vice President Viviane Reding stated after the vote: "Data
Protection is made in Europe. Strong data protection rules must be Europe's
trade mark. Following the U.S. data spying scandals, data protection is more
than ever a competitive advantage." (The Commission is the executive body
of the European Union.)

To become law the proposed regulation needs to be adopted by the Council of
Ministers. Even with changes in the Parliament due to elections in May EU
Commission Vice President Reding asserted the Parliament's position is "set
in stone" and won't change with different members in the Council. The
Parliament and the Council will "negotiate" once the Council defines its
position. The next meeting of Justice Ministers on the data protection
reform will take place in June 2014.

The regulation does the following:

1. Establishes a single, pan-European law for data protection- no
longer each EU member having their own data protection laws
2. Establishes a 'one-stop-shop' for businesses- no longer companies
having to deal with multiple regulatory bodies.
3. Establishes same rules for all companies regardless of where they
are located-- companies based outside of Europe will have to apply the same
rules when doing business in the EU. Economic penalties for non-compliance
4. Establishes a "right to be forgotten" for the individual
5. Requires the individual to give consent to process the individual's
data

In the press release by the EU after the Plenary vote they asserted under
"the right to be forgotten" is not an absolute right. There are cases where
there is a legitimate reason to keep data in a data base. The example they
used is the archives of a newspaper. It is clear that the right to be
forgotten cannot amount to a right to re-write or erase history. The "right"
also carries with it the "right to erasure" The EU proposal states the
individual has the "right to erasure" where a court or regulatory authority
based in the Union has ruled as final and absolute that the data concerned
must be erased. This provision is Article 17 of the proposed regulation. The
genealogical community is most concerned with this provision so that future
records are preserved.

To read the press release about the March 12 Plenary vote see:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-14-186_en.htm

Past postings on the European Union and the proposed data privacy
regulation may be found in the Records Access Alert archives:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/ . You must
be a registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be
finalized..

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: This account is posted for informational purposes only,
and is not intended as the start of a discussion thread.

On a recent visit to San Francisco I spent some time exploring
Tiburon, just north of the city. Before this year the only thing I
knew about Tiburon was that the property values and scenic views there
were amazing, even for the Bay Area.

Through a chance meeting and conversation with a local store owner I
learned that much of Tiburon (he said) was owned by a ZELINSKY family.
Their painting company had a long-term contract to keep the Golden
Gate Bridge golden. Like many of our ancestors, they worked hard,
saved money and invested in real estate. It's not an unusual story
but it's set in an extraordinary place. I've wondered if the painting
contractor ZELINSKYs had been and remained Jewish. An obituary I
found today indicates positively on both counts.

"A memorial service for Edward Zelinsky, 82 -- philanthropist,
historian and Musee owner" was held 10 years ago at Congregation
Emanu-El in San Francisco.

http://tinyurl.com/kle8akv

Live and learn. Long ago I learned that Joseph B. STRAUSS, chief
engineer of the Golden Gate Bridge wasn't a close relative. Now I know
that the ZELINSKYs who painted his bridge weren't either. But the
stories of both those families are very interesting.

John Lowens, Suburban NYC

Researching STRAUS - Udenheim > Kaiserslautern, Rheinpfalz, Germany >
Mississippi > Arkansas > Gloversville & NY, NY

On a recent visit to San Francisco I spent some time exploring
Tiburon, just north of the city. Before this year the only thing I
knew about Tiburon was that the property values and scenic views there
were amazing, even for the Bay Area.

Through a chance meeting and conversation with a local store owner I
learned that much of Tiburon (he said) was owned by a ZELINSKY family.
Their painting company had a long-term contract to keep the Golden
Gate Bridge golden. Like many of our ancestors, they worked hard,
saved money and invested in real estate. It's not an unusual story
but it's set in an extraordinary place. I've wondered if the painting
contractor ZELINSKYs had been and remained Jewish. An obituary I
found today indicates positively on both counts.

"A memorial service for Edward Zelinsky, 82 -- philanthropist,
historian and Musee owner" was held 10 years ago at Congregation
Emanu-El in San Francisco.

http://tinyurl.com/kle8akv

Live and learn. Long ago I learned that Joseph B. STRAUSS, chief
engineer of the Golden Gate Bridge wasn't a close relative. Now I know
that the ZELINSKYs who painted his bridge weren't either. But the
stories of both those families are very interesting.

John Lowens, Suburban NYC

Researching STRAUS - Udenheim > Kaiserslautern, Rheinpfalz, Germany >
Mississippi > Arkansas > Gloversville & NY, NY

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .

It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .

It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa, Novaya
Belitsa (now Novobelitskiy raion, a suburb of Homel), and Homel.
However - it has finally dawned on me that the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know. Instead, I
need to find out what this description:

"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda Mogilevskoy
gubernii"
('a petty bourgeois >from the Belitsa community of the Homel uyezd
of the Mohliev
guberniya') IN EARLY 1903 (April, to be exact)

might have meant when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav at that time.
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa", or to what
is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" (which, in fact, had been
administratively a suburb of Gomel for some 40+ years)?

And, if anyone has any idea how I can go about searching other records
for that particular Belitsa, I would love to hear them!

Thanks for any insights -
Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa, Novaya
Belitsa (now Novobelitskiy raion, a suburb of Homel), and Homel.
However - it has finally dawned on me that the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know. Instead, I
need to find out what this description:

"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda Mogilevskoy
gubernii"
('a petty bourgeois >from the Belitsa community of the Homel uyezd
of the Mohliev
guberniya') IN EARLY 1903 (April, to be exact)

might have meant when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav at that time.
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa", or to what
is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" (which, in fact, had been
administratively a suburb of Gomel for some 40+ years)?

And, if anyone has any idea how I can go about searching other records
for that particular Belitsa, I would love to hear them!

Thanks for any insights -
Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .

It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >

Martha Schecter Forsyth < theforsyths@... > wrote:

I've spent a lot of time in the last few days trying to figure out the
changing administrative relationships between Staraya Bellitsa,
Novaya Belitsa, and Homel . . . but the exact administrative
details in the spring of 1903 are NOT what I need to know.
Instead, I need to find out what this description:
"mechchanin ot Belitskogo obshchestva Gomelskogo uyezda
Mogilevskoy gubernii" ('petty bourgeois >from Belitsa community
of Homel uyezd of Mohliev guberniya') might have meant
when written by someone in Ekaterinoslav in early 1903 . . .
Would they be referring to what is now "Staraya Belitsa",
or to what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel" . . .

It's undoubtedly what is now "Novobelitsa, suburb of Gomel"...
as that's where the Jewish community was.

See the two encyclopedia entries:
1) "Belitsa, suburb of Gomel", in the 1908-1913 Russian-language
"Jewish Encyclopedia":
http://brockhaus-efron-jewish-encyclopedia.ru/beje/02-3/109.htm
2) "Bielica" #3, in the 1900 supplement to the Polish-language
"Slownik Geograficzny..." ["Geographical Dictionary..."], pp. 139-140:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XV_cz.1/139

I'll add an entry to the "JewishGen Communities Database" for
this locality shortly.

Warren

Warren Blatt
< wblatt@... >

I am looking for information on Rabbi and Cantor Samuel/Sandor
MARMORSTEIN, born in Sziget in 1876.
(Also resided in Zilina, Holic, Vienna and Budapest)

I have located several American newspaper articles that refer to him
as "great and famous" rabbi and cantor who sang on the "great stages
of Europe". Others refer to him as a captain in the Hungarian army.

I have not been able to find any European sources that back up any of
these things. I would particularly like to know if a rabbi could have
served as a captain in World War I, if there is there a good place to
look for cantors who sang on the "great European stages". Thank you
for your time.

Sincerely,

Miranda Flint

Looking for Kalman/Kelman/Calman Halevi BLATT born ca. late 1840's or early
1850's. and antecedents.

Bella Fox c-fox4@...

I am looking for information on Rabbi and Cantor Samuel/Sandor
MARMORSTEIN, born in Sziget in 1876.
(Also resided in Zilina, Holic, Vienna and Budapest)

I have located several American newspaper articles that refer to him
as "great and famous" rabbi and cantor who sang on the "great stages
of Europe". Others refer to him as a captain in the Hungarian army.

I have not been able to find any European sources that back up any of
these things. I would particularly like to know if a rabbi could have
served as a captain in World War I, if there is there a good place to
look for cantors who sang on the "great European stages". Thank you
for your time.

Sincerely,

Miranda Flint

Looking for Kalman/Kelman/Calman Halevi BLATT born ca. late 1840's or early
1850's. and antecedents.

Bella Fox c-fox4@...