I would appreciate the opinions of more experienced genners please.

I am trying to find earlier ancestors.

Question one. Could Eliokim and Eliyahu be interchangeable or should I be
looking for an ancestor specifically Eliokim?

The earliest known ancestor of our ABRAMOWICH tree is Uriel Eliyahu
appearing on the 1845 revision list in Pandelys as not Abramowich but
"Yankelowich or Abelowich". Wife Roche.

His known children, Abram b 1845 and Frieda b 1855 were known as Abramowich
so I have to guess he changed >from patronymic to surname sometime after 1845.

He died before 1895 when a grandson (son of Eliokim Meir) received his
name Uriel Eliyahu.

Abram, the son, had 3 sons, Eliokim Meir (Meir >from his wife's family), then
Zecharya Alter and finally Movsha Shevel.

A son of Eliokim Meir was named Uriel Eliyahu and a grandson Eliyahu.

So I have been searching for an Eliokim who could be grandfather to Abram
ABRAMOWICH.

Until now I had assumed Eliokim was a version of Eliyahu. What do you think?

Ros Romem

I would appreciate the opinions of more experienced genners please.

I am trying to find earlier ancestors.

Question one. Could Eliokim and Eliyahu be interchangeable or should I be
looking for an ancestor specifically Eliokim?

The earliest known ancestor of our ABRAMOWICH tree is Uriel Eliyahu
appearing on the 1845 revision list in Pandelys as not Abramowich but
"Yankelowich or Abelowich". Wife Roche.

His known children, Abram b 1845 and Frieda b 1855 were known as Abramowich
so I have to guess he changed >from patronymic to surname sometime after 1845.

He died before 1895 when a grandson (son of Eliokim Meir) received his
name Uriel Eliyahu.

Abram, the son, had 3 sons, Eliokim Meir (Meir >from his wife's family), then
Zecharya Alter and finally Movsha Shevel.

A son of Eliokim Meir was named Uriel Eliyahu and a grandson Eliyahu.

So I have been searching for an Eliokim who could be grandfather to Abram
ABRAMOWICH.

Until now I had assumed Eliokim was a version of Eliyahu. What do you think?

Ros Romem

I'm trying to find any information on a cousin whose name was Rose RITER.
Rose lived in Hoboken all of her life along with her mother Sarah RITER.
Rose married Philip KLEIN and they had 3 daughters when Rose died in around
1956. I would love to find any information that I can for her children.
They have little to no information on her and no pictures.

Thanks so much for your help and kindness,
Lois Segall Friedman
Formally >from Weehawken and now
Delray Beach, FL
Searching: GREIF, GRIEF, SCHIESEL, LECHNER

I'm trying to find any information on a cousin whose name was Rose RITER.
Rose lived in Hoboken all of her life along with her mother Sarah RITER.
Rose married Philip KLEIN and they had 3 daughters when Rose died in around
1956. I would love to find any information that I can for her children.
They have little to no information on her and no pictures.

Thanks so much for your help and kindness,
Lois Segall Friedman
Formally >from Weehawken and now
Delray Beach, FL
Searching: GREIF, GRIEF, SCHIESEL, LECHNER

I am again seeking help >from this most gracious group. I am looking
for someone able to photograph a tombstone in the Wellwood Cemetery in
Farmingdale, NY. Please contact me privately for the details.

Most gratefully,
Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO

I am again seeking help >from this most gracious group. I am looking
for someone able to photograph a tombstone in the Wellwood Cemetery in
Farmingdale, NY. Please contact me privately for the details.

Most gratefully,
Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO

My wife and I are planning a trip to the Spanish Island of Majorca during
Passover. We have arranged to participate in the Jewish Community's seder on
the first night, and we will try to make contact with the Xueta community.

For those who are not familiar with the history of the Jews of Majorca,
there are indications of Jews present in the Balearic Islands as early as
the 2nd Century C.E., and Jews lived there since the earliest occupation by
Arabs beginning in 902 C.E. The Jewish community became especially important
to the island's economy and foreign trade after the conquest by King James I
of Aragon (King James I of Majorca) in 1229-30.

The community thrived until all Jews were forcibly baptized in 1435, well
before the expulsion of Jews >from Spain in 1492. These Conversos, also known
as New Christians, were so discriminated against and virtually quarantined
that they formed a separate community known as Xuetas (pronounced chu-eh-tas)
and were not permitted to integrate or marry within the Old Christian community.
Consequently, for over 500 years the families of the Xueta community prayed in
a separate church and intermarried exclusively among themselves.

Recently, some of this community's members appealed to rabbinical authorities
in Israel for permission to convert to Judaism, but were determined to already
be Jewish and therefor did not need to formally convert.

There are fifteen existing family surnames that are considered to be of
original Xueta families. While my surname is not one of them, Jaffe, or some
variation appears frequently in the early Aragon records concerning Majorca.
For example, in 1238, King James rewarded a number of the Jewish soldiers,
including one named Jaffia, who participated in his conquest of the island
with land grants on the Island of Majorca. He also afforded the Jewish
community special protection.

We would appreciate any information or advice >from anyone who has visited
the Island of Majorca or had contact with the Jewish Community or the Xueta
community. You may communicate directly with me at the email address below.

Bill Yoffee
Co-Administrator of the Xueta DNA Project of Family Tree DNA
Administrator of the Jaffe Surname Project of Family Tree DNA
kidsbks@...

My wife and I are planning a trip to the Spanish Island of Majorca during
Passover. We have arranged to participate in the Jewish Community's seder on
the first night, and we will try to make contact with the Xueta community.

For those who are not familiar with the history of the Jews of Majorca,
there are indications of Jews present in the Balearic Islands as early as
the 2nd Century C.E., and Jews lived there since the earliest occupation by
Arabs beginning in 902 C.E. The Jewish community became especially important
to the island's economy and foreign trade after the conquest by King James I
of Aragon (King James I of Majorca) in 1229-30.

The community thrived until all Jews were forcibly baptized in 1435, well
before the expulsion of Jews >from Spain in 1492. These Conversos, also known
as New Christians, were so discriminated against and virtually quarantined
that they formed a separate community known as Xuetas (pronounced chu-eh-tas)
and were not permitted to integrate or marry within the Old Christian community.
Consequently, for over 500 years the families of the Xueta community prayed in
a separate church and intermarried exclusively among themselves.

Recently, some of this community's members appealed to rabbinical authorities
in Israel for permission to convert to Judaism, but were determined to already
be Jewish and therefor did not need to formally convert.

There are fifteen existing family surnames that are considered to be of
original Xueta families. While my surname is not one of them, Jaffe, or some
variation appears frequently in the early Aragon records concerning Majorca.
For example, in 1238, King James rewarded a number of the Jewish soldiers,
including one named Jaffia, who participated in his conquest of the island
with land grants on the Island of Majorca. He also afforded the Jewish
community special protection.

We would appreciate any information or advice >from anyone who has visited
the Island of Majorca or had contact with the Jewish Community or the Xueta
community. You may communicate directly with me at the email address below.

Bill Yoffee
Co-Administrator of the Xueta DNA Project of Family Tree DNA
Administrator of the Jaffe Surname Project of Family Tree DNA
kidsbks@...

Hello Group,

I am seeking information on the following vital records:
Death record of Hersz Dawid BLONES. Lublin, Poland, 1892.
Born around 1815, the son of Moszek and Ruchla. Interested
in exact date of death, age, any information about his parents or any
survivors.
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=32744

Birth Record of Beniamin Mordko BLONES, 1876 in Leczna, Poland. I am
looking for his parent's names, an exact date of birth and any other
information that might be present.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32741

Death record of Szapsa BLONES, Leczna, Poland, 1875. Son of
Abram Beniamin? Exact date of death and any other
information that might be present.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32743

The 1871 death record of Esterka GOLDMAN, dtr. of Abram BLONES and
Doba. I am looking for an exact date of death and any other
information that can be extracted.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32740

Please respond on the Viewmate form.

Thank you,

Greg Tuckman
Arizona

Hello Group,

I am seeking information on the following vital records:
Death record of Hersz Dawid BLONES. Lublin, Poland, 1892.
Born around 1815, the son of Moszek and Ruchla. Interested
in exact date of death, age, any information about his parents or any
survivors.
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=32744

Birth Record of Beniamin Mordko BLONES, 1876 in Leczna, Poland. I am
looking for his parent's names, an exact date of birth and any other
information that might be present.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32741

Death record of Szapsa BLONES, Leczna, Poland, 1875. Son of
Abram Beniamin? Exact date of death and any other
information that might be present.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32743

The 1871 death record of Esterka GOLDMAN, dtr. of Abram BLONES and
Doba. I am looking for an exact date of death and any other
information that can be extracted.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32740

Please respond on the Viewmate form.

Thank you,

Greg Tuckman
Arizona

Dear Genners,
I'd like to draw your attention to an interesting project going on in Ludwigsburg
(close to Baden-Wurttemberg's capital Stuttgart), hoping you will find it
interesting and maybe be able to contribute important information to it.

Here, a group of citizens has found the site of the synagogue burnt down
in 1938 lacking both in dignity and informational content. Being one of
few such sites that have never been built over, this square in the middle
of town deserves more thought and structure! Thus, they initiated a
public discussion and >from that a keen plan emerged: a suitcase
sculpture will be installed in the middle of the square, bearing the
names of numerous Jewish citizens who perished in the Shoah, and an
electronic stele will provide detailed information.

The city council agreed to reshape the square at last and to bear 2/3 of
the total costs valued at about EUR 360.000, the remaining EUR 120.000
having to be raised >from private donors and foundations. The campaign
for this just having begun, the building works are supposed to start in
early summer and to be finished in time for the commemoration day on
10^th November 2014.

All the details, sketches and information to be browsed at
www.synagogenplatz.de <http://www.synagogenplatz.de/> - only in German,
unfortunately. Don't hesitate to ask about anything you might want me to translate!

So: anybody in possession of documents, pictures, any kind of knowledge
about the former Jewish community of Ludwigsburg that might not yet be
known to the people working on this project please be in touch! Either
directly with Jochen Faber at dialog@... or privately with
me info@...

Daniel Simon, Ludwigsburg info@... Researcher No 230493

Dear Genners,
I'd like to draw your attention to an interesting project going on in Ludwigsburg
(close to Baden-Wurttemberg's capital Stuttgart), hoping you will find it
interesting and maybe be able to contribute important information to it.

Here, a group of citizens has found the site of the synagogue burnt down
in 1938 lacking both in dignity and informational content. Being one of
few such sites that have never been built over, this square in the middle
of town deserves more thought and structure! Thus, they initiated a
public discussion and >from that a keen plan emerged: a suitcase
sculpture will be installed in the middle of the square, bearing the
names of numerous Jewish citizens who perished in the Shoah, and an
electronic stele will provide detailed information.

The city council agreed to reshape the square at last and to bear 2/3 of
the total costs valued at about EUR 360.000, the remaining EUR 120.000
having to be raised >from private donors and foundations. The campaign
for this just having begun, the building works are supposed to start in
early summer and to be finished in time for the commemoration day on
10^th November 2014.

All the details, sketches and information to be browsed at
www.synagogenplatz.de <http://www.synagogenplatz.de/> - only in German,
unfortunately. Don't hesitate to ask about anything you might want me to translate!

So: anybody in possession of documents, pictures, any kind of knowledge
about the former Jewish community of Ludwigsburg that might not yet be
known to the people working on this project please be in touch! Either
directly with Jochen Faber at dialog@... or privately with
me info@...

Daniel Simon, Ludwigsburg info@... Researcher No 230493

I have posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation
focusing on the NAMES of bride's and groom's families. It is on Viewmate
at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32562

It is a marriage certificate >from a wedding that took place in the Irena
district in Poland in 1891 for Lejbus Pejsakh Finkelman and Perlja Tsypa
Goldberg.

I have received a loose translation of the document, but the translator was
unsure about the names. Any help that can be provided would be most
appreciated.
Thanks!

Mara Friedman
mara.friedman@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately or on the Viewmate form.

I have posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation
focusing on the NAMES of bride's and groom's families. It is on Viewmate
at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32562

It is a marriage certificate >from a wedding that took place in the Irena
district in Poland in 1891 for Lejbus Pejsakh Finkelman and Perlja Tsypa
Goldberg.

I have received a loose translation of the document, but the translator was
unsure about the names. Any help that can be provided would be most
appreciated.
Thanks!

Mara Friedman
mara.friedman@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately or on the Viewmate form.

My gg grandmother was Marjem Rivke Platzer/ Pflaster/ Pfaster. She
is listed differently on three different documents and I am trying
to figure out which, if any, is correct. She was married to
Salke Peterfreund (1838-1889?) and lived in Nowy Sacz. They had
at least three daughters: Fannie Langer, Debora Lustbader and Chawe
Spira.
1.In a Polish birth record (of a child) she is listed as Rivke PLATZER.
2.In a US marriage license (of her daughter Fannie) she is listed as
Mary PFATSER. (Note: this marriage license has a lot of
misspellings of names.)
3. Another US marriage license lists her as Mary Relbecka. (assuming
that's Rebecca)
4. In Sefer Sanz it lists all of the tax payers in 1866 in Nowy Sacz)
and it includes both PFLASTER and FLASTER.

Any ideas?
Does anyone know how "pf" is pronounced in Polish?

Thanks
Paula Blank
pjblank@...
Researching: LANGER (Nowy Sacz), PETERFREUND (Nowy Sacz), GOLDSAND
(Tarnow)

My gg grandmother was Marjem Rivke Platzer/ Pflaster/ Pfaster. She
is listed differently on three different documents and I am trying
to figure out which, if any, is correct. She was married to
Salke Peterfreund (1838-1889?) and lived in Nowy Sacz. They had
at least three daughters: Fannie Langer, Debora Lustbader and Chawe
Spira.
1.In a Polish birth record (of a child) she is listed as Rivke PLATZER.
2.In a US marriage license (of her daughter Fannie) she is listed as
Mary PFATSER. (Note: this marriage license has a lot of
misspellings of names.)
3. Another US marriage license lists her as Mary Relbecka. (assuming
that's Rebecca)
4. In Sefer Sanz it lists all of the tax payers in 1866 in Nowy Sacz)
and it includes both PFLASTER and FLASTER.

Any ideas?
Does anyone know how "pf" is pronounced in Polish?

Thanks
Paula Blank
pjblank@...
Researching: LANGER (Nowy Sacz), PETERFREUND (Nowy Sacz), GOLDSAND
(Tarnow)

Hi everyone,

If you are in or near Sarasota FL, you are invited to come and hear my
presentation entitled
"Holocaust and Other Jewish Sites in Latvia and Lithuania:
My Photo Experiences"

Friday, March 21, 2014
10:30 AM
The Al Katz Center for Holocaust Survivors and Jewish Learning Inc.
713 South Orange Avenue
Burns Square, Sarasota
$12 per adult * $5 per student * Light kosher lunch

Everyone is welcome. For more information and reservations, contact:

Beverly Newman 941-313-9239

Hope to see you there,
regards,
Jo Ann Goldwater

Hi everyone,

If you are in or near Sarasota FL, you are invited to come and hear my
presentation entitled
"Holocaust and Other Jewish Sites in Latvia and Lithuania:
My Photo Experiences"

Friday, March 21, 2014
10:30 AM
The Al Katz Center for Holocaust Survivors and Jewish Learning Inc.
713 South Orange Avenue
Burns Square, Sarasota
$12 per adult * $5 per student * Light kosher lunch

Everyone is welcome. For more information and reservations, contact:

Beverly Newman 941-313-9239

Hope to see you there,
regards,
Jo Ann Goldwater

JGS (NY) Meeting Sunday, March 23, 2014 at 2 PM
at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St.,New York
Program: "My Father's Wars: Migration, Memory and the Violence of a Century"
Speaker: Alisse Waterston,Ph.D

Alisse Waterston is a cultural anthropologist, Professor of Anthropology at
John Jay College of the City University of New York, and President-elect of
the American Anthropological Association.

She will discuss her new book, "My Father's Wars: Migration, Memory and the
Violence of a Century," a vivid account of her father's journey across
continents, countries - >from Poland to Cuba to New York- cultures, languages,
generations, and wars. It is both a daughter's portrait of her father and a
scholar's refection on the forces of history and the Jewish experience in the
20th century.

In addition: at 12:30 in the Kovno Room at CJH - Bring your lunch and meet with
fellow JGS members and experts in an informal setting to share research stories
and ask questions.

The Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute at CJH will be open starting at
11:00AM.
Please note that because of ongoing renovations, it is in temporary quarters with
very limited space.

Admission free for members: guests pay $5 at the door.

Submitted by
Harriet Mayer
JGS NY VP Communications
New York NY

JGS (NY) Meeting Sunday, March 23, 2014 at 2 PM
at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St.,New York
Program: "My Father's Wars: Migration, Memory and the Violence of a Century"
Speaker: Alisse Waterston,Ph.D

Alisse Waterston is a cultural anthropologist, Professor of Anthropology at
John Jay College of the City University of New York, and President-elect of
the American Anthropological Association.

She will discuss her new book, "My Father's Wars: Migration, Memory and the
Violence of a Century," a vivid account of her father's journey across
continents, countries - >from Poland to Cuba to New York- cultures, languages,
generations, and wars. It is both a daughter's portrait of her father and a
scholar's refection on the forces of history and the Jewish experience in the
20th century.

In addition: at 12:30 in the Kovno Room at CJH - Bring your lunch and meet with
fellow JGS members and experts in an informal setting to share research stories
and ask questions.

The Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute at CJH will be open starting at
11:00AM.
Please note that because of ongoing renovations, it is in temporary quarters with
very limited space.

Admission free for members: guests pay $5 at the door.

Submitted by
Harriet Mayer
JGS NY VP Communications
New York NY