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Go to bed early Tuesday night! Less than 3 weeks 'till Boston 2013 #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

Go to bed early Tuesday night!

Less than 3 weeks until at the IAJGS meeting in Boston...and you're invited

You're invited to the EARLY AMERICAN SIG MEETING on Wednesday August 7, at 8:15 to 9:30 AM.

We'll have 2 great speakers:

The first is David Kleiman, the curator of the Loeb Visitors Center at
Touro Synagogue. He will speak on Hidden Families and Secrets in Malcolm Stern's
"First American Jewish Families"

You will discover the inside scoop on Rabbi Stern's classic work on early
American genealogy. He'll talk about all three ground breaking editions,
tracking back Rabbi Stern's original sources, corrections and updates, and
connections to other classic works such as "Our Crowd".

You will learn how to best use the charts for your own research even if your family arrived
in North America after 1830.

Next, Gladys Friedman Paulin will tell us the exciting adventures of
Eugenia Levy Phillips, one of the most notorious female rebels during the
Civil War. She was arrested in both Washington, DC, and New Orleans. Many of
her family were active in the war. They were well connected socially, politically, and militarily. .

Hear about her exploits and those of the rest of the family during the war
and what happened when the South was defeated. You'll come away with a
new understanding of how Jews could be on both sides of the conflict.

These are "not to missed " speakers, worth getting up early for.

See you there, Marvin

Marvin Weinberg, Coordinator Early American Sig


KehilaLinks Project Report for June 2013 #usa

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

We are pleased to welcome the following webpages to JewishGen KehilaLinks
We thank the owners and webmasters of these webpages for creating fitting
memorials to these Kehilot (Jewish Communities) and for providing a valuable
resource for future generations of their descendants.

Boyarka, Ukraine
Created by Karen Isabel Sanders
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/boyarka/
~~~

Witbank (Emalahleni), South Africa
Compiled by Barry Mann
Webmaster Eli Rabinowitz
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Witbank/Home.html

~~~

KehilaLinks webpages recently updated:

Bocki (Bodki), Poland
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/bocki/Bocki.html
~~~

Harbin, China
Sitsky And Toper Family Photos >from Harbin, Tientsin And Environs
Vintage Postcards >from The Sitsky/Toper Collection
Synagogue Restoration
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/harbin/index.htm
~~~

Ivano Frankivsk (Stanislawow, Stanisle) (G), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Ivano_Frankivsk/
~~~

Krasilov (Krasyliv), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Krasilov/

~~~

Some of our KehilaLinks webpages were created by people who are no
longer able to maintain them.
The following webpages are "orphaned" and are available for adoption.

Craiova (Belkiralymezo, Canalu), Romania
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/dolj/Craiova.html
~~~

Kamiensk (Kaminska), Poland
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kamiensk/
~~~

Kolomea (Kolomyja) (G)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kolomea/kolomad.htm

~~~

GOOD NEWS! The following webpage was adopted:

Briceni (Brichany, Britshan) (B), Moldova
Adopted by Barbie Moskowitz
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Brichany/brichany.htm
~~~

Fulda, Germany
Adopted by Peter Dreifuss
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/fulda/fulda.html

~~~

If you wish to create a KehilaLinks webpage or adopt an exiting "orphaned"
webpage please contact us at: < bloch@...>.

NEED TECHNICAL HELP CREATING A WEBPAGE?: We have a team of dedicated
volunteers who will help you create a webpage.
~~~

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.
Barbara Ellman, KehilaLinks Technical Coordinator


Early American SIG #USA KehilaLinks Project Report for June 2013 #usa

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

We are pleased to welcome the following webpages to JewishGen KehilaLinks
We thank the owners and webmasters of these webpages for creating fitting
memorials to these Kehilot (Jewish Communities) and for providing a valuable
resource for future generations of their descendants.

Boyarka, Ukraine
Created by Karen Isabel Sanders
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/boyarka/
~~~

Witbank (Emalahleni), South Africa
Compiled by Barry Mann
Webmaster Eli Rabinowitz
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Witbank/Home.html

~~~

KehilaLinks webpages recently updated:

Bocki (Bodki), Poland
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/bocki/Bocki.html
~~~

Harbin, China
Sitsky And Toper Family Photos >from Harbin, Tientsin And Environs
Vintage Postcards >from The Sitsky/Toper Collection
Synagogue Restoration
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/harbin/index.htm
~~~

Ivano Frankivsk (Stanislawow, Stanisle) (G), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Ivano_Frankivsk/
~~~

Krasilov (Krasyliv), Ukraine
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Krasilov/

~~~

Some of our KehilaLinks webpages were created by people who are no
longer able to maintain them.
The following webpages are "orphaned" and are available for adoption.

Craiova (Belkiralymezo, Canalu), Romania
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/dolj/Craiova.html
~~~

Kamiensk (Kaminska), Poland
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kamiensk/
~~~

Kolomea (Kolomyja) (G)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kolomea/kolomad.htm

~~~

GOOD NEWS! The following webpage was adopted:

Briceni (Brichany, Britshan) (B), Moldova
Adopted by Barbie Moskowitz
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Brichany/brichany.htm
~~~

Fulda, Germany
Adopted by Peter Dreifuss
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/fulda/fulda.html

~~~

If you wish to create a KehilaLinks webpage or adopt an exiting "orphaned"
webpage please contact us at: < bloch@...>.

NEED TECHNICAL HELP CREATING A WEBPAGE?: We have a team of dedicated
volunteers who will help you create a webpage.
~~~

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.
Barbara Ellman, KehilaLinks Technical Coordinator


Early American SIG #USA Go to bed early Tuesday night! Less than 3 weeks 'till Boston 2013 #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

Go to bed early Tuesday night!

Less than 3 weeks until at the IAJGS meeting in Boston...and you're invited

You're invited to the EARLY AMERICAN SIG MEETING on Wednesday August 7, at 8:15 to 9:30 AM.

We'll have 2 great speakers:

The first is David Kleiman, the curator of the Loeb Visitors Center at
Touro Synagogue. He will speak on Hidden Families and Secrets in Malcolm Stern's
"First American Jewish Families"

You will discover the inside scoop on Rabbi Stern's classic work on early
American genealogy. He'll talk about all three ground breaking editions,
tracking back Rabbi Stern's original sources, corrections and updates, and
connections to other classic works such as "Our Crowd".

You will learn how to best use the charts for your own research even if your family arrived
in North America after 1830.

Next, Gladys Friedman Paulin will tell us the exciting adventures of
Eugenia Levy Phillips, one of the most notorious female rebels during the
Civil War. She was arrested in both Washington, DC, and New Orleans. Many of
her family were active in the war. They were well connected socially, politically, and militarily. .

Hear about her exploits and those of the rest of the family during the war
and what happened when the South was defeated. You'll come away with a
new understanding of how Jews could be on both sides of the conflict.

These are "not to missed " speakers, worth getting up early for.

See you there, Marvin

Marvin Weinberg, Coordinator Early American Sig


FW: Infomation #bessarabia

Anita Wolkoff <anitawolkoff@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Anita WOLKOFF and I currently live in Montreal, Quebec. I was born in Brazil. My
paternal grandparents were born in Bessarabia ( Kishinev) and immigrated to Recife, Pernambuco,
Brazil between 1917 - 1920. Unfortunately I didn t know them . The information i got >from my
already diseased father was the following:

My paternal grandfather's name - Adolfo Wolkoff, born in 1892 ( his mother's name - Anna
Chaimovich/ his father's name - Samuel Wolkoff)

My paternal grandmother's name - Anita Chapoval , born on March 20, 1898 ( her mothre's
name- Chaika RUBINSKY/ her mother's name - Leib Chapoval)

I know that they were born in Bessarabia, Kishinev.

I know that my grandmother, Anita, immigrated to Brazil and that her brother, Guilherme
CHAPOVOL also immigrated to the same city in Brazil. She also had a  a sister in Bessarabia
( I don t know her name ) who perished in during the holocaust. And she also had another
brother who went to the south of Brazil but I don t know anything about him.

I know that my grandfather, Adolfo, had a sister who came to Montreal, Quebec ( I only have
a photo of her here with me, but no names on it). If I remember some more data I will pass them to you.

Thanks in advance,

Anita WOLKOFF
Montreal
anitawolkoff@...

MODERATOR NOTE - Please reply privately to sender


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia FW: Infomation #bessarabia

Anita Wolkoff <anitawolkoff@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Anita WOLKOFF and I currently live in Montreal, Quebec. I was born in Brazil. My
paternal grandparents were born in Bessarabia ( Kishinev) and immigrated to Recife, Pernambuco,
Brazil between 1917 - 1920. Unfortunately I didn t know them . The information i got >from my
already diseased father was the following:

My paternal grandfather's name - Adolfo Wolkoff, born in 1892 ( his mother's name - Anna
Chaimovich/ his father's name - Samuel Wolkoff)

My paternal grandmother's name - Anita Chapoval , born on March 20, 1898 ( her mothre's
name- Chaika RUBINSKY/ her mother's name - Leib Chapoval)

I know that they were born in Bessarabia, Kishinev.

I know that my grandmother, Anita, immigrated to Brazil and that her brother, Guilherme
CHAPOVOL also immigrated to the same city in Brazil. She also had a  a sister in Bessarabia
( I don t know her name ) who perished in during the holocaust. And she also had another
brother who went to the south of Brazil but I don t know anything about him.

I know that my grandfather, Adolfo, had a sister who came to Montreal, Quebec ( I only have
a photo of her here with me, but no names on it). If I remember some more data I will pass them to you.

Thanks in advance,

Anita WOLKOFF
Montreal
anitawolkoff@...

MODERATOR NOTE - Please reply privately to sender


Re: 23 and me advice #dna

Itzhak Epstein
 

What are 23&M's services (in plain English) that require a
subscription and how likely are your matches to maintain their subscriptions?
What is the percentage of 23&M customers that is genealogically
involved rather than into it because ofthe medical information? How
likely are they to respond to inquiries?
Did any of you compare the number of matches on equivalent FTDNA and
23&M Y-DNA tests?
Does 23&M provide SNP testing?
What is the number and quality of 23&M projects and their
administrators? How about customer service?
What are the relative sizes of both companies' databases?

Having spent a lot of money on FTDNA testing, it might be cost
effective for me to spend a little on 23&M in order to be matched
against its customer database, especially for autosomal testing. I
should also figure out a way to be better matched in the Sorenson
database. (Good Luck!).

Ben -- what do you know about your DNA and wish that you knew more?

Itzhak Epstein

At 01:37 PM 7/20/2013, Steve wrote:
The "core" test that 23andme offers is an autosomal test. That is,
they match you with potential cousins along *any* branch (not just
maternal or paternal direct lines), most reliably within about 5
generations >from the common ancestor.Ftdna offers a very similar
test, as do some others. You probably won't find out how most folks
really connect to you, but if you workhard at your paper genealogy,
and pursue your dna matches, you'll likely connect with someone
eventually (see below for my successes).

They (23andme) do also give you information (but no detailed data)
on your maternal and paternal haplogroups, if you do not already
know that. However, no attempt is made to *match* you by haplogroup
to anybody (though,amongst your autosomal matches, you can see how
many match you by maternal or paternal haplo, and that *might* have
something to do with how you match). I believe this is at fairly
low resolution (in your terms).

I don't know as though there is any huge advantage for using them
over anybody else, other than getting matched to some folks who
wouldn't test with the other companies (but then the same coudl be
said of ftdna, etc.). Its certainly all very reliable, and I have
been matched to two new documented cousins (and have some good
leads) via 23andme (I have also tested with ftdna).

So, I wouldn't say there is a "catch". Its just a matter of knowing
what you are getting, and comparing it in detail with what other
companies offer. Usually, when a company charges less, its because
maybe they are giving less, but in my experience with 23andme,
that doesn't really seem to be so. For some services though, you
might have to sign up for their "subscription" (a few bucks extra a
month). You'll have to read up on that and see what exactly it is.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

At 02:04 AM 7/20/2013, you wrote:

Many years ago I had an Oxford Ancestors DNA test, at the time it cost
a lot of money but the information it gave me was excellent and it was
enough to submit to online projects through which over the years I
have continued to learn more. I noticed today that a 23andme test is
only $99.00 and so am I wondering what more I could learn >from this
test that I don't already know; can the information returned be
submitted to other databases/projects and to what resolution re the
mitochondrial and Y tests provided. It seems to be substantially
cheaper than Family Tree DNA or the Genographic Project so I am
wondering what the catch is.
Ben Forman


DNA Research #DNA Re:23 and me advice #dna

Itzhak Epstein
 

What are 23&M's services (in plain English) that require a
subscription and how likely are your matches to maintain their subscriptions?
What is the percentage of 23&M customers that is genealogically
involved rather than into it because ofthe medical information? How
likely are they to respond to inquiries?
Did any of you compare the number of matches on equivalent FTDNA and
23&M Y-DNA tests?
Does 23&M provide SNP testing?
What is the number and quality of 23&M projects and their
administrators? How about customer service?
What are the relative sizes of both companies' databases?

Having spent a lot of money on FTDNA testing, it might be cost
effective for me to spend a little on 23&M in order to be matched
against its customer database, especially for autosomal testing. I
should also figure out a way to be better matched in the Sorenson
database. (Good Luck!).

Ben -- what do you know about your DNA and wish that you knew more?

Itzhak Epstein

At 01:37 PM 7/20/2013, Steve wrote:
The "core" test that 23andme offers is an autosomal test. That is,
they match you with potential cousins along *any* branch (not just
maternal or paternal direct lines), most reliably within about 5
generations >from the common ancestor.Ftdna offers a very similar
test, as do some others. You probably won't find out how most folks
really connect to you, but if you workhard at your paper genealogy,
and pursue your dna matches, you'll likely connect with someone
eventually (see below for my successes).

They (23andme) do also give you information (but no detailed data)
on your maternal and paternal haplogroups, if you do not already
know that. However, no attempt is made to *match* you by haplogroup
to anybody (though,amongst your autosomal matches, you can see how
many match you by maternal or paternal haplo, and that *might* have
something to do with how you match). I believe this is at fairly
low resolution (in your terms).

I don't know as though there is any huge advantage for using them
over anybody else, other than getting matched to some folks who
wouldn't test with the other companies (but then the same coudl be
said of ftdna, etc.). Its certainly all very reliable, and I have
been matched to two new documented cousins (and have some good
leads) via 23andme (I have also tested with ftdna).

So, I wouldn't say there is a "catch". Its just a matter of knowing
what you are getting, and comparing it in detail with what other
companies offer. Usually, when a company charges less, its because
maybe they are giving less, but in my experience with 23andme,
that doesn't really seem to be so. For some services though, you
might have to sign up for their "subscription" (a few bucks extra a
month). You'll have to read up on that and see what exactly it is.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

At 02:04 AM 7/20/2013, you wrote:

Many years ago I had an Oxford Ancestors DNA test, at the time it cost
a lot of money but the information it gave me was excellent and it was
enough to submit to online projects through which over the years I
have continued to learn more. I noticed today that a 23andme test is
only $99.00 and so am I wondering what more I could learn >from this
test that I don't already know; can the information returned be
submitted to other databases/projects and to what resolution re the
mitochondrial and Y tests provided. It seems to be substantially
cheaper than Family Tree DNA or the Genographic Project so I am
wondering what the catch is.
Ben Forman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 16th World Congress of Jewish Studies - Jerusalem July 28 - August 1, 2013 #general

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The 16th World Congress of Jewish Studies will take place at the Hebrew
University in Jerusalem >from July 28 - August 1, 2013. Several sessions are
of particular interest for genealogists:

The session "Genealogical Perspectives on Jewish Family History",
chaired by Prof. Michael Silver, will take place on Sunday July 28 from
11:30 to 13:30.
It includes four lectures:
"Family models of Munk and Goldzieher Family" by Erzsbet Mislovics
"Jewish Families and the Tobacco Monopoly" by Louise Hecht
"The Names Sara and Israel in the Time of the Holocaust" by Prof. Aaron
Demsky
"Village Jews in the Gubernya of Nineteenth-Century Minsk" by Judith Kalik

For more details on this session, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/?cmd=lectures&act=result&sid=259

The session "Names Through the Ages", chaired by Prof. Aaron Demsky
will take place on Monday July 29 >from 11:30 to 13:30, with four lectures:
"Female Personal Names in the Hebrew Bible and in Rabbinic Literature", by
Helene Friesen
"First Names in Gittin: The Moroccan Rabbis' Approach - The Approach of the
Nineteenth- and Twentieth-Century Moroccan Rabbis to the Writing of First
Names in Certificates of Divorce" by Moshe Ovadia
"Marketing Software: The Complications of Jewish Names" by Lisa Radding
"Shortened Names and Nicknames: Implications for Writing a Bill of Divorce
and for Giving Personal Names" by Yosef Rivlin

For more details on this session, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/?cmd=lectures&act=result&sid=1123

The session "Names in Jewish Communities" chaired by Gershon Bacon
will take place on Monday July 29 >from 15:00 to 17:00, including:
"Changes of Names in the Munk Family" by Erzsbet Mislovics
"Each Person Has a Nickname that Characterizes Him" by Margalit Ovadia
"The Last Names of Georgian Jews" by Ruven Enoch
"Kopel not Filaret, Sore not Solomea: Debates about Jewish Naming Practices
in Pre-World War II Poland" by Kalman Weiser

For more details on this session, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/?cmd=lectures&act=result&sid=1124

For more details on the whole conference, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem


16th World Congress of Jewish Studies - Jerusalem July 28 - August 1, 2013 #general

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The 16th World Congress of Jewish Studies will take place at the Hebrew
University in Jerusalem >from July 28 - August 1, 2013. Several sessions are
of particular interest for genealogists:

The session "Genealogical Perspectives on Jewish Family History",
chaired by Prof. Michael Silver, will take place on Sunday July 28 from
11:30 to 13:30.
It includes four lectures:
"Family models of Munk and Goldzieher Family" by Erzsbet Mislovics
"Jewish Families and the Tobacco Monopoly" by Louise Hecht
"The Names Sara and Israel in the Time of the Holocaust" by Prof. Aaron
Demsky
"Village Jews in the Gubernya of Nineteenth-Century Minsk" by Judith Kalik

For more details on this session, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/?cmd=lectures&act=result&sid=259

The session "Names Through the Ages", chaired by Prof. Aaron Demsky
will take place on Monday July 29 >from 11:30 to 13:30, with four lectures:
"Female Personal Names in the Hebrew Bible and in Rabbinic Literature", by
Helene Friesen
"First Names in Gittin: The Moroccan Rabbis' Approach - The Approach of the
Nineteenth- and Twentieth-Century Moroccan Rabbis to the Writing of First
Names in Certificates of Divorce" by Moshe Ovadia
"Marketing Software: The Complications of Jewish Names" by Lisa Radding
"Shortened Names and Nicknames: Implications for Writing a Bill of Divorce
and for Giving Personal Names" by Yosef Rivlin

For more details on this session, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/?cmd=lectures&act=result&sid=1123

The session "Names in Jewish Communities" chaired by Gershon Bacon
will take place on Monday July 29 >from 15:00 to 17:00, including:
"Changes of Names in the Munk Family" by Erzsbet Mislovics
"Each Person Has a Nickname that Characterizes Him" by Margalit Ovadia
"The Last Names of Georgian Jews" by Ruven Enoch
"Kopel not Filaret, Sore not Solomea: Debates about Jewish Naming Practices
in Pre-World War II Poland" by Kalman Weiser

For more details on this session, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/?cmd=lectures&act=result&sid=1124

For more details on the whole conference, see
http://www.jewish-studies.org/

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Joseph and Leah ISAACS of London #general

Gloria Spielman <gspiel@...>
 

Hi Adrian,

If you or your friend are on Facebook you could try our Jewish East End of
London Facebook group. This is a general interest group for anyone with an
interest in the area, although most of our members either lived or had
family that lived in the East End. Many members are researching their family
history and you never know ...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/159296087418648/

Best,

Gloria Spielman
Modiin, Israel.
Whitechapel, London.

Researching: Spielman, Szpilman (London\Ostrolenka), Fishman
(London\Warsaw), Weinmann, Gralnick, London

Adrian <adrianp7@...>
According to the 1851 census Joseph ISAACS was born in Whitechapel c
1778/79. He married Leah (?) sometime before 1826 to 1833 (the various
census returns differ as to when their daughter Julia was born in Aldgate).
snip...........


Joseph and Leah ISAACS of London #general

Gloria Spielman <gspiel@...>
 

Hi Adrian,

If you or your friend are on Facebook you could try our Jewish East End of
London Facebook group. This is a general interest group for anyone with an
interest in the area, although most of our members either lived or had
family that lived in the East End. Many members are researching their family
history and you never know ...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/159296087418648/

Best,

Gloria Spielman
Modiin, Israel.
Whitechapel, London.

Researching: Spielman, Szpilman (London\Ostrolenka), Fishman
(London\Warsaw), Weinmann, Gralnick, London

Adrian <adrianp7@...>
According to the 1851 census Joseph ISAACS was born in Whitechapel c
1778/79. He married Leah (?) sometime before 1826 to 1833 (the various
census returns differ as to when their daughter Julia was born in Aldgate).
snip...........


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brick Walls help: SWOFF from Zagare #general

Lisa Cohn
 

Hi. I'm wondering if I could appeal to the collective for a little help
with finding a brick wall I'm encountering.

I've made a little headway here and there in getting more information
but I've been unable to track my mother's family back to the old world.
I know they're >from Zagare, Lithuania. There's some confusion about the names,
and I'm starting to suspect they're originally >from Poland. I'd like to be
able to track them back before they came here. And I'd also like to find
their immigration records, ships manifests...etc

What I know:
The name is Swoff now, might have been Zwoffe, or Zwab, Svav or
something similar. Different members of the family had different names on
different documents. Avraham Eukoseil Swoff and his wife Celia (according
to her tombstone, that's Tsivia, a Polish name), and their son Barnett (Beryl
on his stone).

Abraham Swoff was born in July 1859. He came here in 1887. Celia was born
around 1866. She came here with their 5 year old son in 1889 or 1890.
(info >from census, birth dates and arrival dates mostly consistent 1889-90).
Celia and Abraham were resident aliens according to all census records,
never naturalized. Barnett was naturalized. According to his papers,
he was born in Zagare, Russia on January 15, 1884. He immigrated >from the
port of Hamburg Germany to the Port of New York on Aug 17, 1889. Name of ship:
made attempt and failed.

To find the immigration records, I've checked Castle Gardens, as that's
before Ellis Island opened (checked EllisIsland website also, just in case).
Couldn't find them, but doesn't mean they aren't there, what with the
uncertain name spellings. I also tried the search interface through
SteveMorse. Didn't make any headway there. A friend suggested it might be
possible to check the other end for records at the Port of Hamburg Germany,
but I'm not sure if that's possible or how to go about it.

About origination pre-Zagare...Celia Swoff's maiden name was Weiner.
One of her brothers is on the 1900 census with the Svav family as having
been born in Poland. I found a WW1 draft card, that I'm not sure was him
that said Bialystock as birthplace. Morris Weiner was a popular name though.
Might be someone else. And her tombstone has her name as Tsvia, a Polish name.
I'd like to be able to find some record of her marriage or Barnett's birth
or something, but I haven't found those records digitized yet as some others
on my father's side have wonderfully allowed me to get a little further back.

Does anyone have any ideas about how I can get through the brick wall?
Thanks,

Lisa Cohn
WEINER, SWOFF, COHEN >from Zagare Lithuania
LITMAN, COHN >from Novoselitsa, Romania and Chernovitz
BRUCHAR >from Bacau and Botosani Romania
COHN >from Botosani Romania


Brick Walls help: SWOFF from Zagare #general

Lisa Cohn
 

Hi. I'm wondering if I could appeal to the collective for a little help
with finding a brick wall I'm encountering.

I've made a little headway here and there in getting more information
but I've been unable to track my mother's family back to the old world.
I know they're >from Zagare, Lithuania. There's some confusion about the names,
and I'm starting to suspect they're originally >from Poland. I'd like to be
able to track them back before they came here. And I'd also like to find
their immigration records, ships manifests...etc

What I know:
The name is Swoff now, might have been Zwoffe, or Zwab, Svav or
something similar. Different members of the family had different names on
different documents. Avraham Eukoseil Swoff and his wife Celia (according
to her tombstone, that's Tsivia, a Polish name), and their son Barnett (Beryl
on his stone).

Abraham Swoff was born in July 1859. He came here in 1887. Celia was born
around 1866. She came here with their 5 year old son in 1889 or 1890.
(info >from census, birth dates and arrival dates mostly consistent 1889-90).
Celia and Abraham were resident aliens according to all census records,
never naturalized. Barnett was naturalized. According to his papers,
he was born in Zagare, Russia on January 15, 1884. He immigrated >from the
port of Hamburg Germany to the Port of New York on Aug 17, 1889. Name of ship:
made attempt and failed.

To find the immigration records, I've checked Castle Gardens, as that's
before Ellis Island opened (checked EllisIsland website also, just in case).
Couldn't find them, but doesn't mean they aren't there, what with the
uncertain name spellings. I also tried the search interface through
SteveMorse. Didn't make any headway there. A friend suggested it might be
possible to check the other end for records at the Port of Hamburg Germany,
but I'm not sure if that's possible or how to go about it.

About origination pre-Zagare...Celia Swoff's maiden name was Weiner.
One of her brothers is on the 1900 census with the Svav family as having
been born in Poland. I found a WW1 draft card, that I'm not sure was him
that said Bialystock as birthplace. Morris Weiner was a popular name though.
Might be someone else. And her tombstone has her name as Tsvia, a Polish name.
I'd like to be able to find some record of her marriage or Barnett's birth
or something, but I haven't found those records digitized yet as some others
on my father's side have wonderfully allowed me to get a little further back.

Does anyone have any ideas about how I can get through the brick wall?
Thanks,

Lisa Cohn
WEINER, SWOFF, COHEN >from Zagare Lithuania
LITMAN, COHN >from Novoselitsa, Romania and Chernovitz
BRUCHAR >from Bacau and Botosani Romania
COHN >from Botosani Romania


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine citizer of Konotop #ukraine

Herbert Lazerow
 

To supplement Doug Cohen's excellent response, in the Russian Empire everyone had two identifiers. Everyone was identified by class. Most Jews were townspeople, but a few were merchants and a few were peasants. So I suspect that "citizen" was not an accurate translation. The term in Russian was probably "meshchanin" which is better translated as "townsperson".

As to location, as Doug said, he was registered in Konotop. Registration was hereditary; children took their father's registration, and a wife took her husband's registration. The fact that he was registered in Konotop means that at some point, his male ancestor lived there. But it does not tell us how long ago they might have lived there.

Bert
Herbert Lazerow
Class of 1975 Professor and
Director, Summer Law Programs Abroad
University of San Diego


citizer of Konotop #ukraine

Herbert Lazerow
 

To supplement Doug Cohen's excellent response, in the Russian Empire everyone had two identifiers. Everyone was identified by class. Most Jews were townspeople, but a few were merchants and a few were peasants. So I suspect that "citizen" was not an accurate translation. The term in Russian was probably "meshchanin" which is better translated as "townsperson".

As to location, as Doug said, he was registered in Konotop. Registration was hereditary; children took their father's registration, and a wife took her husband's registration. The fact that he was registered in Konotop means that at some point, his male ancestor lived there. But it does not tell us how long ago they might have lived there.

Bert
Herbert Lazerow
Class of 1975 Professor and
Director, Summer Law Programs Abroad
University of San Diego


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ruben and Pearl KAUFMAN, Ethel GOLDSTEIN; Chicago, 1910 #general

Arnon Hershkovitz
 

Hello, Dear JGenners,

I'd appreciate your help in tracing my family in Chicago, 1910. I've
documentation for this family's arrival to the US and for its
residence in Chicago in 1920, 1930. So, I'm focusing right now only on
finding its members in the 1910 US Census.

* * *
Pearl KAUFMAN (nee GOLDSTEIN; b. 1879, Romania; d. 1947, Los Angeles,
CA) was married to Ruben KAUFMAN (b. 1869, Romania; d. 1943, Los
Angeles, CA).

Pearl was the daughter of Ethel (nee Wolkofsky; b. 1859; d. 1939,
Chicago, IL) and Sam GOLDSTEIN (b. 1859, Romania). Ethel was my
great-great aunt.

Pearl arrived to the US in 1904, together with her oldest daughter,
Gisella (Gertrude; b. 1898, Romania; later married Harry SILVERMAN),
and her mother, Ethel. In Chicago, she and Ruben had another two
children: Helen (b. 1904; married Harry ABRAMS), and Maurice (b.
1911).

* * *
I've found Pearl and Ruben in the 1920 census, living with their 3
children and with Ethel.

I've found Pearl and Ruben in the 1930 census, living with Ethel and
with Morris; Pearl's two daughters lived together with their families
in another apartment.

I couldn't find traces for any family member in the 1910 census, so
I'd appreciate any help in finding them.

Yours,
Arnon Hershkovitz
Harrison, NY
arnon.hershkovitz@...


Ruben and Pearl KAUFMAN, Ethel GOLDSTEIN; Chicago, 1910 #general

Arnon Hershkovitz
 

Hello, Dear JGenners,

I'd appreciate your help in tracing my family in Chicago, 1910. I've
documentation for this family's arrival to the US and for its
residence in Chicago in 1920, 1930. So, I'm focusing right now only on
finding its members in the 1910 US Census.

* * *
Pearl KAUFMAN (nee GOLDSTEIN; b. 1879, Romania; d. 1947, Los Angeles,
CA) was married to Ruben KAUFMAN (b. 1869, Romania; d. 1943, Los
Angeles, CA).

Pearl was the daughter of Ethel (nee Wolkofsky; b. 1859; d. 1939,
Chicago, IL) and Sam GOLDSTEIN (b. 1859, Romania). Ethel was my
great-great aunt.

Pearl arrived to the US in 1904, together with her oldest daughter,
Gisella (Gertrude; b. 1898, Romania; later married Harry SILVERMAN),
and her mother, Ethel. In Chicago, she and Ruben had another two
children: Helen (b. 1904; married Harry ABRAMS), and Maurice (b.
1911).

* * *
I've found Pearl and Ruben in the 1920 census, living with their 3
children and with Ethel.

I've found Pearl and Ruben in the 1930 census, living with Ethel and
with Morris; Pearl's two daughters lived together with their families
in another apartment.

I couldn't find traces for any family member in the 1910 census, so
I'd appreciate any help in finding them.

Yours,
Arnon Hershkovitz
Harrison, NY
arnon.hershkovitz@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for LADER descendents in Melbourne #general

Rosalind
 

Dear Friends,

I have located the details of Minnie Rebecca LADER and husband Abraham LADER
in Melbourne of the JOWBR.
Minnie Z"L was my mother's first cousin. I remember meeting her in my
parent's home in South Africa when she was returning >from a visit to her
sister Lily in (then) Rhodesia in the early 1950s.

I would be grateful if someone in Melbourne reading this could help me
connect with her children/grandchildren.
Thank you
Ros Romem Daughter of Ethel Abrahams
Jerusalem


Looking for LADER descendents in Melbourne #general

Rosalind
 

Dear Friends,

I have located the details of Minnie Rebecca LADER and husband Abraham LADER
in Melbourne of the JOWBR.
Minnie Z"L was my mother's first cousin. I remember meeting her in my
parent's home in South Africa when she was returning >from a visit to her
sister Lily in (then) Rhodesia in the early 1950s.

I would be grateful if someone in Melbourne reading this could help me
connect with her children/grandchildren.
Thank you
Ros Romem Daughter of Ethel Abrahams
Jerusalem

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