In case you happen to be in Lviv, Ukraine...I will be giving the
following talk on Thursday:

"Surveying the Historical Landscape of Galicia: Cadastral Maps,
Landowner, School & Voter Records"

Thursday, April 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM
The Center for Urban History of East Central Europe
Vul. Akad. Bohomoltsia 6
Lviv 79005, Ukraine

Galician land records, property maps, school and voting records are
valuable - but often overlooked - genealogical, sociological and
historical resources. Cadastral maps show exact locations of
synagogues, cemeteries, schools, and market squares and often have the
names of the landowners written onto plots of land. One can chart a
family over several generations and land records can provide the
valuation of properties and inheritance patterns. Voting records
document the residents of a single dwelling, showing their age,
birthplace and occupation. School records offer unique insights and
often are the only evidence of a family living in a particular town or
village. Some magnate records can chart the path Jews took to
adopting family names. This talk highlights the history and relevance
of these alternatives to vital records for both scholarly, and family
history, research. The Gesher Galicia website and databases, online
portals to these resources, will also be demonstrated.

More info: http://www.lvivcenter.org/en/chronicle/news/?newsid=1022

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
in Lviv, Ukraine
pweisberger@...
www.geshergalicia.org

In case you happen to be in Lviv, Ukraine...I will be giving the
following talk on Thursday:

"Surveying the Historical Landscape of Galicia: Cadastral Maps,
Landowner, School & Voter Records"

Thursday, April 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM
The Center for Urban History of East Central Europe
Vul. Akad. Bohomoltsia 6
Lviv 79005, Ukraine

Galician land records, property maps, school and voting records are
valuable - but often overlooked - genealogical, sociological and
historical resources. Cadastral maps show exact locations of
synagogues, cemeteries, schools, and market squares and often have the
names of the landowners written onto plots of land. One can chart a
family over several generations and land records can provide the
valuation of properties and inheritance patterns. Voting records
document the residents of a single dwelling, showing their age,
birthplace and occupation. School records offer unique insights and
often are the only evidence of a family living in a particular town or
village. Some magnate records can chart the path Jews took to
adopting family names. This talk highlights the history and relevance
of these alternatives to vital records for both scholarly, and family
history, research. The Gesher Galicia website and databases, online
portals to these resources, will also be demonstrated.

More info: http://www.lvivcenter.org/en/chronicle/news/?newsid=1022

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
in Lviv, Ukraine
pweisberger@...
www.geshergalicia.org

Dear Sherri:

Italiangen used the printed indexes for these records, which were also
filmed. You can check them in case there were transcription errors, I
suppose, but otherwise you'd have to go through the films one marriage
at a time.

What information do you have regarding where and when the marriage took
place?

Best regards,

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

Dear Sherri:

Italiangen used the printed indexes for these records, which were also
filmed. You can check them in case there were transcription errors, I
suppose, but otherwise you'd have to go through the films one marriage
at a time.

What information do you have regarding where and when the marriage took
place?

Best regards,

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

Dear Gersiggers,

I have been researching the BERMANN family >from Germany for over 12 years
now. The tree has now over 1400 people with 120 persons with the surname
BERMANN. Unfortunately there are some missing links.

The BERMANN family originates >from Monzel in the Mosel area, at least that's
where my first BERMANN named Joseph was born around 1700.

Joseph had two sons, the first named Bermann Joseph who married
Sara SABEL. Joseph Bermann born in 1740 later choose the surname
BRAUN.

His second son was Samuel BERMANN, born in 1741. This Samuel married
an unknown woman, and had 4 children.

As a widower Samuel moved to Oberwesel on the river Rhine. 4 children were
born here:

Judith, born 1773, married Rabbi Emanuel DEUTZ who was chief Rabbi in Paris.
I have found only some of their descendants.
Marx, born 1774 who married Clara FALK and moved to Zell at the river Mosel
Bernard, born 1778 >from whom I have no information whatsoever
Lazarus, born 1784, married Helene ELIAS an later Otillia STERN This family
moved to Trier, and his descendants to Berlin, Antwerp, Belgium and England.

Marx BERMANN born 1774 in Oberwesel, who married Clara FALK had 6 children,
5 of them born in Oberwesel and the last one, Jacob born 1811 in Merl near
Zell at the Mosel.

Judith born 1801 married Jacob DANIEL and moved to St. Wendel
Claudine/Babette, born 1803, married Samuel KAHN and moved to Wittlich
Claire, born 1806. I have no information on her.
Abraham, born 1809, married Fanny CALLMANN, moved to Altenkirchen
And Jacob, born 1811 in Merl/Zell. Married Emma / Jacobine HAAS from
Hottenbach. I found Jacob and Emma in Zell where 5 children were born. Later
the family lived in Koblenz.

Samuel, born 1843. He is in the Koblenz address books until 1890, and not
buried in Koblenz.
Florine, born 1845. I found her living descendants in Holland.
Louis, born 1847, found his living descendants in Israel and America.
Simon, born 1849.
Henriette, born 1852

I know the family moved to Koblenz around 1860, >from Samuel, Simon and
Henriette I have no information at all.

Does anyone recognise any of these names, or have these names in their
family tree? Also I am keen on any information which connects my earliest
BERMANN to the family >from Osann which was very near Monzel, and now even
part of it, and had a large BERMANN family as well
The BERMANN family lived in: Merl, Oberwesel, Trier, Koblenz, St. Wendel,
Altenkirchen, Wuppertal

Thanks in advance for any information. Regards,

Bert de Jong, The Netherlands bdejong67@...

Dear Gersiggers,

I have been researching the BERMANN family >from Germany for over 12 years
now. The tree has now over 1400 people with 120 persons with the surname
BERMANN. Unfortunately there are some missing links.

The BERMANN family originates >from Monzel in the Mosel area, at least that's
where my first BERMANN named Joseph was born around 1700.

Joseph had two sons, the first named Bermann Joseph who married
Sara SABEL. Joseph Bermann born in 1740 later choose the surname
BRAUN.

His second son was Samuel BERMANN, born in 1741. This Samuel married
an unknown woman, and had 4 children.

As a widower Samuel moved to Oberwesel on the river Rhine. 4 children were
born here:

Judith, born 1773, married Rabbi Emanuel DEUTZ who was chief Rabbi in Paris.
I have found only some of their descendants.
Marx, born 1774 who married Clara FALK and moved to Zell at the river Mosel
Bernard, born 1778 >from whom I have no information whatsoever
Lazarus, born 1784, married Helene ELIAS an later Otillia STERN This family
moved to Trier, and his descendants to Berlin, Antwerp, Belgium and England.

Marx BERMANN born 1774 in Oberwesel, who married Clara FALK had 6 children,
5 of them born in Oberwesel and the last one, Jacob born 1811 in Merl near
Zell at the Mosel.

Judith born 1801 married Jacob DANIEL and moved to St. Wendel
Claudine/Babette, born 1803, married Samuel KAHN and moved to Wittlich
Claire, born 1806. I have no information on her.
Abraham, born 1809, married Fanny CALLMANN, moved to Altenkirchen
And Jacob, born 1811 in Merl/Zell. Married Emma / Jacobine HAAS from
Hottenbach. I found Jacob and Emma in Zell where 5 children were born. Later
the family lived in Koblenz.

Samuel, born 1843. He is in the Koblenz address books until 1890, and not
buried in Koblenz.
Florine, born 1845. I found her living descendants in Holland.
Louis, born 1847, found his living descendants in Israel and America.
Simon, born 1849.
Henriette, born 1852

I know the family moved to Koblenz around 1860, >from Samuel, Simon and
Henriette I have no information at all.

Does anyone recognise any of these names, or have these names in their
family tree? Also I am keen on any information which connects my earliest
BERMANN to the family >from Osann which was very near Monzel, and now even
part of it, and had a large BERMANN family as well
The BERMANN family lived in: Merl, Oberwesel, Trier, Koblenz, St. Wendel,
Altenkirchen, Wuppertal

Thanks in advance for any information. Regards,

Bert de Jong, The Netherlands bdejong67@...

Hello -

I am new to the SA-SIG, although I am a long-time subscriber to the Hungarian one.

We have been searching the following families:

1) Meyer LEWIS (b. abt 1863, probably Lithuania, d. 1930 in Kimberley), his wife, Bertha LOWENTHAL (b. abt 1880, probably Lithuania, d. 1956)

2) Nancy GOLDSTEIN (1895 London - 1944 Kimberley), daughter of David GOLDSTEIN (probably originally >from Russia/Poland) and Sarah or Fanny

3) Julius PRICE (1886 Dublin, Ireland - 1933 Kimberley), son of Nathan PRICE (1839 Lithuania - 1901 Dublin) and Sarah Chana Salzberg (1849 Russia - 1916 Kimberley)

While I have found some info in Ancestry, the SA-SIG, and South African links through "familyhistoryresearch.com.au", it has been an incredible struggle to have success with the National Archives. As I do for other countries of research, I went to the online data retrieval - "NAIRS", I believe - and found 4 documents which I would desperately like to order. The instruction at the top said to make sure to include the folder/document/catalogue number when ordering an item. I didn't see the link to the online order form as I have in other experiences - however, I know that in some places, I have had to put in my request, and then snail-mail a bank draft. I went to the Contacts section, and sent an e-mail requesting the four documents, listing all of their codes and numbers, and asking which was the best method of secure payment. My preference is to receive the documents electronically if possible. I received no answer. Over the next
couple of days, I sent the request to at least five of the contacts, and there was either no answer or they bounced back. I finally forwarded my request to the Heraldry department since there was a name attached. This very kind person connected me with another individual and i repeated my request. I was so surprised to receive a curt response that they are too overwhelmed to send the documents, but that I should hire a researcher. I'm not sure I understand this, as I have already done the extensive research to discover what I need, which is why I was able to provide the exact data. Based on my experience with North America and European countries, I assumed that these documents are digital and accessible by staff who retrieve and send once the payment has been made. I wrote back asking for more clarification on this, but have received no response.

If there is some kind person out there who is familiar with the methods of ordering info >from the National Archives, please let me know.

Many thanks!

Michele Sankar
Ontario, Canada,

Hello -

I am new to the SA-SIG, although I am a long-time subscriber to the Hungarian one.

We have been searching the following families:

1) Meyer LEWIS (b. abt 1863, probably Lithuania, d. 1930 in Kimberley), his wife, Bertha LOWENTHAL (b. abt 1880, probably Lithuania, d. 1956)

2) Nancy GOLDSTEIN (1895 London - 1944 Kimberley), daughter of David GOLDSTEIN (probably originally >from Russia/Poland) and Sarah or Fanny

3) Julius PRICE (1886 Dublin, Ireland - 1933 Kimberley), son of Nathan PRICE (1839 Lithuania - 1901 Dublin) and Sarah Chana Salzberg (1849 Russia - 1916 Kimberley)

While I have found some info in Ancestry, the SA-SIG, and South African links through "familyhistoryresearch.com.au", it has been an incredible struggle to have success with the National Archives. As I do for other countries of research, I went to the online data retrieval - "NAIRS", I believe - and found 4 documents which I would desperately like to order. The instruction at the top said to make sure to include the folder/document/catalogue number when ordering an item. I didn't see the link to the online order form as I have in other experiences - however, I know that in some places, I have had to put in my request, and then snail-mail a bank draft. I went to the Contacts section, and sent an e-mail requesting the four documents, listing all of their codes and numbers, and asking which was the best method of secure payment. My preference is to receive the documents electronically if possible. I received no answer. Over the next
couple of days, I sent the request to at least five of the contacts, and there was either no answer or they bounced back. I finally forwarded my request to the Heraldry department since there was a name attached. This very kind person connected me with another individual and i repeated my request. I was so surprised to receive a curt response that they are too overwhelmed to send the documents, but that I should hire a researcher. I'm not sure I understand this, as I have already done the extensive research to discover what I need, which is why I was able to provide the exact data. Based on my experience with North America and European countries, I assumed that these documents are digital and accessible by staff who retrieve and send once the payment has been made. I wrote back asking for more clarification on this, but have received no response.

If there is some kind person out there who is familiar with the methods of ordering info >from the National Archives, please let me know.

Many thanks!

Michele Sankar
Ontario, Canada,

Dr. Sam Weiss originally >from Mezekosony (Koson) near Beregszaz, lived
in Manhattan. My grandfather came over and stayed by him as well.

Mordechai Adler
Petach Tikva, Israel

Dr. Sam Weiss originally >from Mezekosony (Koson) near Beregszaz, lived
in Manhattan. My grandfather came over and stayed by him as well.

Mordechai Adler
Petach Tikva, Israel

In case you happen to be in Lviv, Ukraine... I will be giving the
following talk on Thursday:

"Surveying the Historical Landscape of Galicia:
Cadastral Maps, Landowner, School & Voter Records"

Thursday, April 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM
The Center for Urban History of East Central Europe
Vul. Akad. Bohomoltsia 6
Lviv 79005, Ukraine

Galician land records, property maps, school and voting records are
valuable -- but often overlooked -- genealogical, sociological and
historical resources. Cadastral maps show exact locations of
synagogues, cemeteries, schools, and market squares and often have
the names of the landowners written onto plots of land. One can
chart a family over several generations and land records can provide
the valuation of properties and inheritance patterns. Voting records
document the residents of a single dwelling, showing their age,
birthplace and occupation. School records offer unique insights and
often are the only evidence of a family living in a particular town or
village. Some magnate records can chart the path Jews took to
adopting family names. This talk highlights the history and relevance
of these alternatives to vital records for both scholarly, and family
history, research. The Gesher Galicia website and databases, online
portals to these resources, will also be demonstrated.

More info:
http://www.lvivcenter.org/en/chronicle/news/?newsid=1022

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
in Lviv, Ukraine
pweisberger@...
www.geshergalicia.org

In case you happen to be in Lviv, Ukraine... I will be giving the
following talk on Thursday:

"Surveying the Historical Landscape of Galicia:
Cadastral Maps, Landowner, School & Voter Records"

Thursday, April 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM
The Center for Urban History of East Central Europe
Vul. Akad. Bohomoltsia 6
Lviv 79005, Ukraine

Galician land records, property maps, school and voting records are
valuable -- but often overlooked -- genealogical, sociological and
historical resources. Cadastral maps show exact locations of
synagogues, cemeteries, schools, and market squares and often have
the names of the landowners written onto plots of land. One can
chart a family over several generations and land records can provide
the valuation of properties and inheritance patterns. Voting records
document the residents of a single dwelling, showing their age,
birthplace and occupation. School records offer unique insights and
often are the only evidence of a family living in a particular town or
village. Some magnate records can chart the path Jews took to
adopting family names. This talk highlights the history and relevance
of these alternatives to vital records for both scholarly, and family
history, research. The Gesher Galicia website and databases, online
portals to these resources, will also be demonstrated.

More info:
http://www.lvivcenter.org/en/chronicle/news/?newsid=1022

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
in Lviv, Ukraine
pweisberger@...
www.geshergalicia.org

I am going to spend a couple of days in Lviv, Ukraine, in June, and
looking for a driver that could take me to a village named
Stanislavchyk (around 95 km or 60 miles >from Lviv). Does anyone
have any experience in such a tour >from Lviv and could recommend
me on a person who could take me there? And approximately how
much a return ride plus one hour stay should cost?

Amit Landau,
Tel Aviv, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please communicate names of guides and
drivers privately.

I am going to spend a couple of days in Lviv, Ukraine, in June, and
looking for a driver that could take me to a village named
Stanislavchyk (around 95 km or 60 miles >from Lviv). Does anyone
have any experience in such a tour >from Lviv and could recommend
me on a person who could take me there? And approximately how
much a return ride plus one hour stay should cost?

Amit Landau,
Tel Aviv, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please communicate names of guides and
drivers privately.

Could someone please head me in the right direction backward [in
time]?! I'm researching my paternal grandparents, Lewi (Louis) Moshe
LUBIN and Pepi (Pearl, Pauline) WEINTRAUB LUBIN. My grandparents
died when I was young, and my father (who died when I was 23) did
not speak much about his close-knit family, except that he spoke only
Yiddish until he was five.

My mother remembered hearing >from my Bubbe, Pearl, that the family
[LUBIN] was named for the town >from where they came, and that they
"...were Galizien," >from eastern Europe, so I "discovered" Galicia. Also,
my grandfather came >from a family of Rabbis, but he chose to come to
the US and become a jeweler. Lewi and Pepi met when she was working
in a bakery in Budapest. They married in 1909. A few books that I have

from them are in German or Hebrew. I know that Lemberg is now L'viv

(Lwow, Lvov), Ukraine. I have since noticed that there are quite a few
places that have been named Lubin or similar. I have found information

from Ellis Island, the US Census, and military records. The All Galicia

Database has not been revealing.

Lewi records: arrived in NY 1909, >from Lemberg, Austria, mother
Amalia? LUBIN in Lemberg. Various records states birthplace as
Galizien (Galician), Austria, Bohemia, and Poland.

Pepi records: arrived in NY 1910, father N? WEINTRAUB in Lemberg,
birth location Lemberg; may have lost all family in the Holocaust/Shoah
(no longer heard >from them).

Lewi and Pepi's eldest son, Schlamje, records: arrived in NY 1914 with
Rose WEINTRAUB [his aunt], born in Lemberg Austria; Rose
WEINTRAUB records: father Nachman WEINTRAUB Nova Gasse 12
Lemberg, Galicia, Austria, place of birth Austria Almow; >from JGBR,
may be her: SOBEL, Rose (Rosie) (WEINTRAUB) died 1926, Hinde
Roize b. Nachman Tzvi, gravestone entirely in Hebrew/maiden name
WEINTRAUB.

Shoah record, possibly Pepi and Rose's father: "Nachman WEINTRAUB was
born in Nisko* [Lwow] in 1863 to Ptakhia and Tzirel. He was a
merchant and married to Yehudit. Prior to WWII he lived in Nisko,
Poland. During the war, he was in Rzeszow, Ghetto. Nachman perished
in 1942 in Rzeszow, Ghetto. This information is based on a Page of
Testimony submitted by his son [Khaim VEINTRAUB], a Shoah survivor."
[Note: Nisko was in Austrian Galicia, then it became part of Poland,
small town in the Lublin district.]

I would like to discover where Lewi LUBIN was born and who was his
family. It would also be nice to know if this Nachman WEINTRAUB is
Pepi's father, and more about her family. How would I go about
retrieving information beyond Ellis Island, JewishGen, US Census, and
the various other sites to which they link (e.g. cemeteries). Using
their known names, not much information has turned up.

Shalom,
Nancy Lubin Bochichio
Mahopac, New York
Reply to: bo-enterprises@...

This is the first time I have seen Kolomea mentioned in one of your
posts. I also have relatives that came to the US >from there. I have
searched ship records extensively to find my paternal
great-grandfather, Jacob STERNFELD, to no avail. I did find a passenger
record for his wife, daughter, my grandmother, and a son, probably

from a few years later, in 1898, but no trace of him. Does anyone

know why this is possible and how I can find their Galicia marriage
certificate?

The good news is I did connect with the son's family through JewGen
and we look forward to meeting in the near future.

Thank you.

Eileen Serwer
erserwer@...

Milton Koch<mjk1944@...> wrote:

<<I've posted a vital record - part of a marriage record - >from
Kolomya, in Polish for which I need a translation....>>

MODERATOR NOTE: For past mentions of Kolomyya/Kolomyja/Kolomea
on this list, search the JewishGen SIG Archives
(http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop)
for Kolom*a .

Could someone please head me in the right direction backward [in
time]?! I'm researching my paternal grandparents, Lewi (Louis) Moshe
LUBIN and Pepi (Pearl, Pauline) WEINTRAUB LUBIN. My grandparents
died when I was young, and my father (who died when I was 23) did
not speak much about his close-knit family, except that he spoke only
Yiddish until he was five.

My mother remembered hearing >from my Bubbe, Pearl, that the family
[LUBIN] was named for the town >from where they came, and that they
"...were Galizien," >from eastern Europe, so I "discovered" Galicia. Also,
my grandfather came >from a family of Rabbis, but he chose to come to
the US and become a jeweler. Lewi and Pepi met when she was working
in a bakery in Budapest. They married in 1909. A few books that I have

from them are in German or Hebrew. I know that Lemberg is now L'viv

(Lwow, Lvov), Ukraine. I have since noticed that there are quite a few
places that have been named Lubin or similar. I have found information

from Ellis Island, the US Census, and military records. The All Galicia

Database has not been revealing.

Lewi records: arrived in NY 1909, >from Lemberg, Austria, mother
Amalia? LUBIN in Lemberg. Various records states birthplace as
Galizien (Galician), Austria, Bohemia, and Poland.

Pepi records: arrived in NY 1910, father N? WEINTRAUB in Lemberg,
birth location Lemberg; may have lost all family in the Holocaust/Shoah
(no longer heard >from them).

Lewi and Pepi's eldest son, Schlamje, records: arrived in NY 1914 with
Rose WEINTRAUB [his aunt], born in Lemberg Austria; Rose
WEINTRAUB records: father Nachman WEINTRAUB Nova Gasse 12
Lemberg, Galicia, Austria, place of birth Austria Almow; >from JGBR,
may be her: SOBEL, Rose (Rosie) (WEINTRAUB) died 1926, Hinde
Roize b. Nachman Tzvi, gravestone entirely in Hebrew/maiden name
WEINTRAUB.

Shoah record, possibly Pepi and Rose's father: "Nachman WEINTRAUB was
born in Nisko* [Lwow] in 1863 to Ptakhia and Tzirel. He was a
merchant and married to Yehudit. Prior to WWII he lived in Nisko,
Poland. During the war, he was in Rzeszow, Ghetto. Nachman perished
in 1942 in Rzeszow, Ghetto. This information is based on a Page of
Testimony submitted by his son [Khaim VEINTRAUB], a Shoah survivor."
[Note: Nisko was in Austrian Galicia, then it became part of Poland,
small town in the Lublin district.]

I would like to discover where Lewi LUBIN was born and who was his
family. It would also be nice to know if this Nachman WEINTRAUB is
Pepi's father, and more about her family. How would I go about
retrieving information beyond Ellis Island, JewishGen, US Census, and
the various other sites to which they link (e.g. cemeteries). Using
their known names, not much information has turned up.

Shalom,
Nancy Lubin Bochichio
Mahopac, New York
Reply to: bo-enterprises@...

This is the first time I have seen Kolomea mentioned in one of your
posts. I also have relatives that came to the US >from there. I have
searched ship records extensively to find my paternal
great-grandfather, Jacob STERNFELD, to no avail. I did find a passenger
record for his wife, daughter, my grandmother, and a son, probably

from a few years later, in 1898, but no trace of him. Does anyone

know why this is possible and how I can find their Galicia marriage
certificate?

The good news is I did connect with the son's family through JewGen
and we look forward to meeting in the near future.

Thank you.

Eileen Serwer
erserwer@...

Milton Koch<mjk1944@...> wrote:

<<I've posted a vital record - part of a marriage record - >from
Kolomya, in Polish for which I need a translation....>>

MODERATOR NOTE: For past mentions of Kolomyya/Kolomyja/Kolomea
on this list, search the JewishGen SIG Archives
(http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop)
for Kolom*a .

Hi all,
In translating tombstone inscriptions I came across a term that
sounds like it should be familiar. Can anyone translate for me?
The context is "...son of so-and-so (ob"m) mehora dena, grandson
of the gaon so-and-so...."
It looks like one word, and is spelled
mem-heh-vav(or yod)-resh-aleph-dalet-nun-aleph.
Thank you.
David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ

Hi all,
In translating tombstone inscriptions I came across a term that
sounds like it should be familiar. Can anyone translate for me?
The context is "...son of so-and-so (ob"m) mehora dena, grandson
of the gaon so-and-so...."
It looks like one word, and is spelled
mem-heh-vav(or yod)-resh-aleph-dalet-nun-aleph.
Thank you.
David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ