Rachel,

Have you tried contacting The American Jewish Historical Society?
https://www.ajhs.org/

You can search their on-line catalog here:
https://www.ajhs.org/online-catalog

A very quick search finds him named in this collection:
https://search.cjh.org/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=CJH_ALEPH005537889&context=L&vid=beta&lang=en_US&search_scope=AJHS&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&isFrbr=true&tab=default_tab&query=any,contains,jonas%20phillips&offset=0

There are 32 direct descendants (through his children Naphtali, Zalegman, Rachel, and Ester) registered in the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) Genealogical Research System. The interface for the public can be accessed at https://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search/default.cfm?tab_id=0. You might want to search under the ANCESTORS and DESCENDANTS tabs.

Each DAR application includes birth, death, and some marriage info for every generation between Jonas Phillips and his descendant applicant, so pick the most recent by highest member #. There are supporting documents ranging from vital records, to census, books, bible records, land, etc. A digital copy of the application and supporting documents, that are "existing and unrestricted" can be ordered on the website for $30.
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Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
NVC, DAR Jewish Task Force
Director, JewishGen USA Research Division
ekowitt@...

A great-great grandmother, Leah Phillips, was born in England in about 1826, and immigrated to the US in about 1848. She married a Moses Isaacs, who was from Poland. The lived in New York City and had eight daughters. At least four of the daughters died of reproductive cancers.
We have not been able to find any trace of Leah in England, though she should be in the 1840 census. Some documents mention "Fischel," which may have been the original last name or might have been Leah's father's given name.
This Leah Phillips is clearly not a descendant of Jonas Phillips but I am interested in following this discussion to learn of other Phillips she might have been related to.

Alisa Klaus
Santa Cruz, California

My 3rd great grandparents were Ahron and Dvora Radicziner (Radetz, Radecky)) from Hertnek, Hungary, which is now called Hertnik in Slovakia. Both were born circa 1805. I am especially trying to find Dvora's maternal ancestors because Dvora, my maternal ancestor, carried an extremely rare mitochondrial haplogroup that is the subject of intense scholarly interest. (Our haplogroup is 12,500 years old -- an age almost unheard of.)  I'm also interested in anything on the history of the Jewish community of Hertnek, a town founded circa 1300 as part of Hungary's defense against the Mongol invasion.
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Geoffrey Sea
Writer and Historian
Portsmouth, Ohio, USA
GeoffreySea@...

I'm new at this and facing the question of what software to use to build my family tree. I only have a tree on Ancestry.com and want something more powerful that does not reside online.  From reading reviews, it appears that Gramps and Legacy 9 are the favored options. Is one of these better for European Jewish genealogy or am I missing another option? My ancestry is entirely Ashkenazi with pre-US residency limited mostly to Hungary, Lithuania, Poland, Latvia, and Russia, with older residence in Germany and Ottoman Empire. I have substantial rabbinical ancestry, some of it confirmed and some very dubious. What is the best trustworthy source for rabbinical lineages?  Otherwise, I am looking for the following features:  I am more interested in deep ancestry going as far back as possible rather than accumulating lists of cousins.

1. Ability to query a large number of databases including especially from the countries mentioned.
2. Ability to test and rate the accuracy of proposed links.
3. Ability to handle the exotic names and incestuous relations often associated with old rabbinical families.
4. Integration with DNA results (I did DNA testing with FamilyTreeDNA)
5. Professional quality so as to withstand scholarly analysis.
6. Windows platform -- I don't need anything mobile.

Family TreeDNA has its own tree builder but I don't know how capable it is.

I am especially interested in tracking deep ancestry in Hungary and adjacent areas now in Ukraine and Slovakia. This may be a separate question, but what is the best access to old records from those countries for someone who does not speak Hungarian or Yiddish (I can read Russian but not old Russian handwriting)? For example I know there are old Hungarian census reports but I have no idea how to access them.

Just a reminder for those of you who have registered for the Book
Discussion of "Those Who Remained"

Wed Aug 11th 2pm Eastern Time
11 pm West Coast time.

For those not yet registered go to:
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Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project

I am living in Fulda. I am a Cityguide. If you need, I can make pictures from this place (Rittergasse) or find some documents... There ist a good (my) Jewish Community here. And I know the person, who ist working with Jewish documents and has written a book about Jews here.
His Name is Michael Imhof.
Your Jana Tegel

I have a print of my great grandfather's family.  It is probably an anglicised extract of a census.

It says '...all born in Giliogiry, registered in Retovo (Rieteve) all live here.'

There doesn't seem to be any records for Giliogiry which was a tiny settlement.

Any ideas please?

Jack Galaun
Researching Groll.  Rieteve, Vorna

It refers to the change of social state from the Rossieny meshchane (urban dwellers) to the Rossieny merchant 2nd class, which is noted in the 3rd column.  It likely happened between the dates of the 2 census - 1811 and 1816.

Mike Vayser

There wasn't a White or Red Army during WWI, There was just a Russian Imperial Army.  These Red, White, Green, etc terms refer to the Russian military during the Civil War 1917-1922, after the country exited the war.
The uniforms on the photo appear to be Austro-Hungarian, the text is not written in Russian.  This text is likely an abbreviation of the name of the military unit.

Mike Vayser

Hi Theo,
Thank you very much for the quick reply and especially for correcting the historical facts surrounding the events that I distorted a bit.
My grandmother never spoke about the war period, every time the issue came up, she dismissed it with statements like "... really a dark period! But now everything is good and that's what matters ..."
Unfortunately I could not find any documentation or records related to my family from my mother's side, so in a rather desperate attempt, I thought that maybe through the license plate and registration of the vehicle I might dig up some details. (BTW I also have another picture with a license plate of the family motorcycle. Black numbers on a white colored background plate, which probably means that the motorcycle was registered sometime before 1930).
I do speak Hungarian, Hebrew, English, a little French and Italian, but unfortunately almost not a word in Romanian, even though I was born in Timisoara and lived there until the age of 5 ...
Thank you for the suggestion and I would love to read the book your father wrote.

My best regards
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Avi Markovits
avi.markovitz@...
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Interested in: Markovits, Garay, Ehrenreich, Lubeck, Weisz, Herskovits
Hadad (hodod), Bajmok, Sopron, Alsoberekszo, Szatmat, Nagyvarad, Nagyszentmiklós (Sânnicolau Mare)

I guess your definition of strict is the one that best explains my approach. However, keep in mind that many Sephardim migrated to North Africa and the Near East and may have lived in those regions for 500 years following their time in Sepharad. Be all of this as it may, the two Sfardim in my study have four Sephardic grandparents (in the strict sense).

To wrap this thread up, I would like to add thatI managed to locate 10 more Sephardic samples from the Eurogenes25 Database and have brought them into the chart:



it seems the categorical distinction is holding up: Sephardim show, on average, more of a coastal Near Eastern affinity and less of a Eurasian Steppe affinity.

This may be even clearer using a scatter diagram like this one:




In this chart the blue squares and the brown square are the ten samples from the EurogenesG25 Sephardic Database (if this image does not reproduce clearly enough here is the image file: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuwT-4qnkJLBjkhgCdNravabf1JU?e=TrRfn8), The blue and red diamonds are the two Sephardic males from this study. The turquoise diamond is a person who is seeking to know whether he/she has Sephardic ancestry (the person most closely matches the brown square out of all the Sephardic samples, but I believe the brown square is mis-identified as being Sephardic in the G25 database and is likely to be Ashkenazic, or at least mostly Ashkenazic). The hollow circles and diamonds are the male and female Ashkenazim from this study (expect for the two diamonds in the lower left quadrant, who are Mizarahi (Syrian) Jews from this study). The triangles on the left are Early Iron Age Samples from sites in the Levant (Megiddo, Abel Maacah, and Ashkelon). This chart makes clear that the Sephardic samples are clustered closer to the Early Iron Age Samples and that the Ashkenazic samples are clustered to their right (which equates to being closer to the Eurasian Steppe samples from the previous chart)..

Using this system I believe the Sephardic ancestry of any person can be accurately evaluated, based on their placement relative to the two clusters. Persons of strong Sephardic ancestry will be to the left of the center vertical line. Persons of strong Ashkenazic ancestry will be in the midst of the Ashkenazic cluster on the right. Persons of mixed Sephardic-Ashkenazic ancestry will fall into the zone between the two clusters.



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Adam Cherson

According to JRI Poland records, my 6th great grandfather was a "publican" (publisher) for a time in the early 1800's in Biala Podlaska or possibly Lomazy (still don't quite understand how towns work in Poland). Is there a way to find out what he was publishing? I didn't see anything about it in the Yizkor Book, which does have a large section on printing presses, but given the time period it seems possible that his work could have been distributed around other communities in Poland and made its way into some records that were saved and possibly donated. It also seems like the side of my family that this great grandfather is on (MIODEK side) lived in Biala Podlaska for several generations, but there seems to be very little information about them. A few cousins are mentioned several times in the Yizkor Book, but nothing about their parents or extended family. Would appreciate a PM if anyone else has roots in Biala Podlaska and/or knows of any collections specific to the town that might be helpful.

Thank you!
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Arianne Barton
arianne.barton@...

Researching:
MIODEK/MAYDECK: Biala Podlaska, Lomazy, Kovno, Brest, Konstantynow; WEINSTOCK/VAINSHTOK: Brest, Odessa; GINSBURG/GINSBERG/GINZBURG: Volodymyr-Volynskyi, Ljubljana, Brest, Kovno
KRISSEL/KREYZELMAN: Sarnaki, Sedlitz or Siedlitz?; SHEINBLOOM/SHEINBAUM: Biala Podlaska, Brest
GREINETZ/GRIMES: Brest; LERNER: Brest, Biala Podlaska, Odessa, Kiev
Victims of the Sobibor and Treblinka Extermination Camps; Victims of the Babi Yar Massacre

Extended families members known to have lived in the United States (mainly New York, Colorado, and California); Montreal, Canada; Israel (Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Petah Tikva), and possibly Melbourne, Australia.

“Chashuv” (male) or “chashuva” (female) is translated as “important” in modern spoken Hebrew but on a tombstone, especially on an older one, the meaning is more accurately translated as “esteemed.” In fact if you speak Hebrew you can see that the root of the word, khet-shin-vet, is the root for “think” and the structure is passive — which literally makes the word equivalent to the English “well thought of.”

All the best,

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,

Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

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Topic: Getting Ready for the 1950 Census: Searching with and without a Name Index

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When the 1950 census is released in April 2022, it will not have a name index.  So finding people in the census will involve searching by location instead.  Even when a name index becomes available, there will still be many reasons for doing locational searches.  The census is organized by Enumeration Districts (EDs), so a location needs to be converted to an ED before the census can be accessed.  The One-Step website contains numerous tools for obtaining EDs.  This talk will present the various tools and show circumstances in which each can be used.

 

Steve Morse is the creator of the One-Step Website, for which he has received both the Lifetime Achievement Award and the Outstanding Contribution Award from IAJGS, the Award of Merit from the National Genealogical Society, the first ever Excellence Award from the Association of Professional Genealogists, and two awards that he cannot pronounce from Polish genealogical societies.  In his other life Morse is a computer professional with a doctorate degree in electrical engineering.  He has held various research, development, and teaching positions, authored numerous technical papers, and written four textbooks and holds four patents.

Hope to see you Sunday!
Linda Wolfe Kelley
Secretary
Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon

I need help in understanding a record of an Oszman/Osman family from Vilnius. Somebody wrote in a comment in the original record in Russian. I  have the original Russian version with the comment and 2  English versions including the translation of the comment. I need to know what is Kants (somebody suggested Chancellery) why there is a reference to MInsk, to Frank Kamenetski, Dvoriskaya St and house. It seems there are a lot of abbreviations in the message and comment
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Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas