Shalom, Dorothy!!

What makes you think that there was some impossibility
of their escaping to the USA in 1940? There were people who came even
later. Until Hitler shut it down, Germany was making great profits on
encouraging the Jews to leave.

You should be able to find this family on the manifests for the date
they left and the date they arrived in NYC. I believe they are on
Ancestry.com, which I am not subscribed to.

They were not smuggled into France. There was free transit in both
directions. Nor were they smuggled into England. There was no need if
they were in transit. They had to get visas into the USA, though, and
that took some time, if at all. So someone in the USA had to have agreed
to accept material responsibility for them to immigrate.

How's by you??

Love, Martha

Shalom, Dorothy!!

What makes you think that there was some impossibility
of their escaping to the USA in 1940? There were people who came even
later. Until Hitler shut it down, Germany was making great profits on
encouraging the Jews to leave.

You should be able to find this family on the manifests for the date
they left and the date they arrived in NYC. I believe they are on
Ancestry.com, which I am not subscribed to.

They were not smuggled into France. There was free transit in both
directions. Nor were they smuggled into England. There was no need if
they were in transit. They had to get visas into the USA, though, and
that took some time, if at all. So someone in the USA had to have agreed
to accept material responsibility for them to immigrate.

How's by you??

Love, Martha

JULY 15-18 2012
32nd IAJGS INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE on JEWISH GENEALOGY hosted by The
French Cercle de Genealogie Juive
(www.paris2012.eu – contact@... )

Newsletter # 12 – June 15, 2012

***ONLY ONE MONTH LEFT UNTIL THE D-DAY***

Quickly JOIN THE CONFERENCE 600 ATTENDEES - Sign-up and make your friends
sign-up

***There are still rooms in the WORKSHOPS***
Get trained and learn about softwares and research bases of Family Tree
Maker, My-Heritage, JewishGen, FamilySearch or use Word and Excel for
genealogy. ((www.paris2012.eu/products: Fee: 15 euros)

***Come and SHARE YOUR SEARCHES***
----Participate in meetings of genealogical interest groups. The luncheon of
the FrenchSig will be a unique opportunity to meet in a friendly way while
having lunch between cousins >from France and elsewhere.
----The professional genealogists are invited to participate in the special
interest group which will meet Tuesday, July 17 at 17:20.
----If you are in charge of a genealogy journal and want to participate to a
specific meeting, contact@...

***Sign up today to AN EXCEPTIONAL POST-CONFERENCE TRIP to NORMANDY***

--- Thursday, July 19: stop at GIVERNY made famous by Claude Monnet, then
enjoy A RARE VISIT TO THE FACTORY OF KNOWLEDGE in Elbeuf (former textile
factory "Blin & Blin "), then visit the synagogue

--- arrive for lunch in ROUEN where the Palais de Justice has EXCEPTIONNALY
AUTHORIZED - AND ONLY FOR US- a special tour of the Sublime Abode (11th
CENTURY YESHIVA), miraculously discovered under the paving of its Court of
Honor (Only 18 people will have access). Night at the Novotel*** in Caen.

--- Friday 20, visit the CAEN MEMORIAL in the morning and in the afternoon
the LANDING BEACHES.
(€ 350; information: Joubert-Voyages, (33) 1 48 74 12 30

***You are a speaker and YOU WROTE A BOOK***
---The bookshop BibliEurope will sell the books published in France by
French speakers as well as books related to Jewish genealogy.
---On the CGJ table we will sell all CGJ publications. We will also sell
the books published outside of France, These books have to be deposited for
sale by their authors who wish to.
Contact Françoise Darmon (darmon.francoise@...) for practical
arrangements.

***INTERNET DURING THE CONFERENCE***
We have obtained >from the Marriott significant reductions for conference
attendees: they can enjoy on their personal computers - in their rooms and
throughout the hotel - connecting to High Speed Internet for only 7 euros
per day instead of 19 euros. Remember to ask for this rate.

JULY 15-18 2012
32nd IAJGS INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE on JEWISH GENEALOGY hosted by The
French Cercle de Genealogie Juive
(www.paris2012.eu – contact@... )

Newsletter # 12 – June 15, 2012

***ONLY ONE MONTH LEFT UNTIL THE D-DAY***

Quickly JOIN THE CONFERENCE 600 ATTENDEES - Sign-up and make your friends
sign-up

***There are still rooms in the WORKSHOPS***
Get trained and learn about softwares and research bases of Family Tree
Maker, My-Heritage, JewishGen, FamilySearch or use Word and Excel for
genealogy. ((www.paris2012.eu/products: Fee: 15 euros)

***Come and SHARE YOUR SEARCHES***
----Participate in meetings of genealogical interest groups. The luncheon of
the FrenchSig will be a unique opportunity to meet in a friendly way while
having lunch between cousins >from France and elsewhere.
----The professional genealogists are invited to participate in the special
interest group which will meet Tuesday, July 17 at 17:20.
----If you are in charge of a genealogy journal and want to participate to a
specific meeting, contact@...

***Sign up today to AN EXCEPTIONAL POST-CONFERENCE TRIP to NORMANDY***

--- Thursday, July 19: stop at GIVERNY made famous by Claude Monnet, then
enjoy A RARE VISIT TO THE FACTORY OF KNOWLEDGE in Elbeuf (former textile
factory "Blin & Blin "), then visit the synagogue

--- arrive for lunch in ROUEN where the Palais de Justice has EXCEPTIONNALY
AUTHORIZED - AND ONLY FOR US- a special tour of the Sublime Abode (11th
CENTURY YESHIVA), miraculously discovered under the paving of its Court of
Honor (Only 18 people will have access). Night at the Novotel*** in Caen.

--- Friday 20, visit the CAEN MEMORIAL in the morning and in the afternoon
the LANDING BEACHES.
(€ 350; information: Joubert-Voyages, (33) 1 48 74 12 30

***You are a speaker and YOU WROTE A BOOK***
---The bookshop BibliEurope will sell the books published in France by
French speakers as well as books related to Jewish genealogy.
---On the CGJ table we will sell all CGJ publications. We will also sell
the books published outside of France, These books have to be deposited for
sale by their authors who wish to.
Contact Françoise Darmon (darmon.francoise@...) for practical
arrangements.

***INTERNET DURING THE CONFERENCE***
We have obtained >from the Marriott significant reductions for conference
attendees: they can enjoy on their personal computers - in their rooms and
throughout the hotel - connecting to High Speed Internet for only 7 euros
per day instead of 19 euros. Remember to ask for this rate.

My grandfather went to Argentina under the auspices of the Baron de Hirsch
organization. He stayed on the farm/ranch about a year (became a gaucho)
and then moved to the city - Buenos Aires. He was there for a few years
before emigrating to the US. I will be making a trip to Buenos Aires this
fall, and would like to get a genealogical perspective of the area. One of
the places I was interested in seeing is the Immigration Museum. I know it
closed for a while but there is a question as to whether it reopened. Any
other suggestions for what to see would be appreciated.

Rochelle Gershenow
Oxford, Connecticut

My grandfather went to Argentina under the auspices of the Baron de Hirsch
organization. He stayed on the farm/ranch about a year (became a gaucho)
and then moved to the city - Buenos Aires. He was there for a few years
before emigrating to the US. I will be making a trip to Buenos Aires this
fall, and would like to get a genealogical perspective of the area. One of
the places I was interested in seeing is the Immigration Museum. I know it
closed for a while but there is a question as to whether it reopened. Any
other suggestions for what to see would be appreciated.

Rochelle Gershenow
Oxford, Connecticut

Hi
I've posted 5 vital records >from the PSA for which I need a direct
translation of the unknown words.
At the bottom of each image I have written what I know >from what I
see and then unknown word for what I do not know. I do not read
German or Polish.
I would appreciate your help for any individual words, or for all
the unknown words.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23311
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23309
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23307
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23305
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23080

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Dalya Dektor
California
Searching: AST, WEINTRAUB, BREITFELD, SPINDEL >from Berezhany
and other nearby towns.

Hi
I've posted 5 vital records >from the PSA for which I need a direct
translation of the unknown words.
At the bottom of each image I have written what I know >from what I
see and then unknown word for what I do not know. I do not read
German or Polish.
I would appreciate your help for any individual words, or for all
the unknown words.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23311
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23309
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23307
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23305
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23080

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Dalya Dektor
California
Searching: AST, WEINTRAUB, BREITFELD, SPINDEL >from Berezhany
and other nearby towns.

Dzien dobry, bonjour, and hello,

For all those with family or historic
connections to this former Galician town, today located in western
Ukraine an hours drive >from Lviv, just a reminder that I will be
hosting a Rohatyn BoF meeting at the upcoming IAJGS Conference in
Paris on:

Sunday, July 15, 2012 at 3:30 p.m
Room: Louis Armstrong A&B


I will be presenting slides >from my
dozen or so trips to Rohatyn in 2011 and 2012 while living in Lviv,
and while the meeting is scheduled to nominally last one hour, I will
be happy to remain longer to meet with those that wish to learn more
about the town, the Rohatyn Shtetl Research Group (founded by Dr.
Alex Feller with over 150 members worldwide today), and the many
on-going projects undertaken within the town to discover and preserve
what remains of Rohatyn's former Jewish community.

The topics I will discuss include the Jewish headstone recovery project in

town, the Jewish paper scraps >from the Nazi occupation period found last year

during the renovation of a former ghetto building, buildings still existing
today with Jewish historic significance, local connections and contacts, and
sadly, last month's visit: the unexpected discovery of the remains of
12 individuals in a crawl space located below the Ukrainian Church
apparently dating >from the War.

I will also make available to those
that attend several handouts, including my foreign research resources
and contacts.

Hope to see many of you there!

Warm regards,
Marla Raucher Osborn
Member of the Board of Gesher Galicia
Paris, France
formerly in Krakow, Poland and Lviv, Ukraine

osborn@...


Researching surnames HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING, and KURZROCK >from Rohatyn and
TEICHMAN >from Chodorow (Galicia, Western Ukraine); SILBER >from Ulanow
and Sokolow Malapolski (Poland); BLECHER >from Soroka, Bessarabia
(Moldova); BRUNSHTEIN/BROWNSTEIN/BRONSTEIN, SARFAS/CHARFAS, and FABER

from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (Ukraine); FRANKENBERG
from Vilnius (Lithuania); and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER and

KESTENBAUM/KOSTENBAUM /KASTENBAUM >from Przemysl (Poland)

Dzien dobry, bonjour, and hello,

For all those with family or historic
connections to this former Galician town, today located in western
Ukraine an hours drive >from Lviv, just a reminder that I will be
hosting a Rohatyn BoF meeting at the upcoming IAJGS Conference in
Paris on:

Sunday, July 15, 2012 at 3:30 p.m
Room: Louis Armstrong A&B


I will be presenting slides >from my
dozen or so trips to Rohatyn in 2011 and 2012 while living in Lviv,
and while the meeting is scheduled to nominally last one hour, I will
be happy to remain longer to meet with those that wish to learn more
about the town, the Rohatyn Shtetl Research Group (founded by Dr.
Alex Feller with over 150 members worldwide today), and the many
on-going projects undertaken within the town to discover and preserve
what remains of Rohatyn's former Jewish community.

The topics I will discuss include the Jewish headstone recovery project in

town, the Jewish paper scraps >from the Nazi occupation period found last year

during the renovation of a former ghetto building, buildings still existing
today with Jewish historic significance, local connections and contacts, and
sadly, last month's visit: the unexpected discovery of the remains of
12 individuals in a crawl space located below the Ukrainian Church
apparently dating >from the War.

I will also make available to those
that attend several handouts, including my foreign research resources
and contacts.

Hope to see many of you there!

Warm regards,
Marla Raucher Osborn
Member of the Board of Gesher Galicia
Paris, France
formerly in Krakow, Poland and Lviv, Ukraine

osborn@...


Researching surnames HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING, and KURZROCK >from Rohatyn and
TEICHMAN >from Chodorow (Galicia, Western Ukraine); SILBER >from Ulanow
and Sokolow Malapolski (Poland); BLECHER >from Soroka, Bessarabia
(Moldova); BRUNSHTEIN/BROWNSTEIN/BRONSTEIN, SARFAS/CHARFAS, and FABER

from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (Ukraine); FRANKENBERG
from Vilnius (Lithuania); and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER and

KESTENBAUM/KOSTENBAUM /KASTENBAUM >from Przemysl (Poland)

JewishGen would like to know which of the SIGs will have participants at =
the Paris conference next month. Please contact me off-list at =
vkahn@... if you are attending. I will not be attending and have =
asked Robert Friedman and Robert Neu to serve as the SIG's "official =
representatives". Bob Friedman is organizing the H-SIG table at the SIG =
Fair and would appreciate hearing >from those willing to help him handle =
the table.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

JewishGen would like to know which of the SIGs will have participants at =
the Paris conference next month. Please contact me off-list at =
vkahn@... if you are attending. I will not be attending and have =
asked Robert Friedman and Robert Neu to serve as the SIG's "official =
representatives". Bob Friedman is organizing the H-SIG table at the SIG =
Fair and would appreciate hearing >from those willing to help him handle =
the table.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Dear Siggers,
This week I work in the Library of the Hungarian Jewish University at Budapest.
Yesterday I discovered a lot of registers of the Jewish Teacher Trainig College at Budapest.
It had worked >from 1861 till 1948.

The main book contains the students' birth date, bith places, the date of
the completion of their studies, and in the notes: often about their 
future fate, soldiers in the Ist WW, workplaces, death date, etc.

Szego" Agnes
librarian, historian
Budapest

Dear Siggers,
This week I work in the Library of the Hungarian Jewish University at Budapest.
Yesterday I discovered a lot of registers of the Jewish Teacher Trainig College at Budapest.
It had worked >from 1861 till 1948.

The main book contains the students' birth date, bith places, the date of
the completion of their studies, and in the notes: often about their 
future fate, soldiers in the Ist WW, workplaces, death date, etc.

Szego" Agnes
librarian, historian
Budapest

I have received many off-list responses to my posting earlier this week.
In a few days or so I'll send a summary of what I've learned to
the list so the names and connections will become part of our
archives. Several long-time GerSIG members have connections to this
well-documented family >from Oberfranken, Bavaria.

Re-opening my files on the SS Austria fire in 1858 has resulted in a
new family history mystery for me. My grandmother, who shared a home
for 17 years with her grandmother, Binchen KUPFER, told me that
Binchen's brother-in-law, Karl / Charles KUPFER died in the Austria fire.

"Granny" and I visited the graves of Simon and Binchen STRAUS KUPFER
and also Charles' grave in Philadelphia long ago. The inscription on a
small stone in that plot reads: "In memory of our bother, who died
9/18/1859 (sic) , in the 23rd yr of his age". A tree in the Charles
Stanton Collection at LBI shows a birth date that matches for Karl
(Charles) KUPFER (b. Burgkunstadt September 8, 1836), youngest brother
of my gg grandfather Simon.

A New York Times article about the Austria disaster that included a
list of passengers is very interesting. The list includes a Sigmund
KUPFER and (probably) his wife Bertha KUPFER but not Charles or Karl.
Is that record wrong ? or, perhaps, my grandmother was confused about
which of her grandfather's brothers died on the Austria 20 years
before she was born. Her grandfather did have a brother Sigmund Kupfer
but Sigmund was born Feb. 3, 1832. As I wrote, this is a mystery.

(NOTE: Also listed among the victims on the Austria is Lina IGLAUER,
almost certainly an in-law of the KUPFERs.)

Those interested in this group of families >from near Burgkunstadt and
in the SS Austria disaster (see Wikipedia, Google etc) are invited to
write to the GerSIG list or privately.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC JPLowens@...

I have received many off-list responses to my posting earlier this week.
In a few days or so I'll send a summary of what I've learned to
the list so the names and connections will become part of our
archives. Several long-time GerSIG members have connections to this
well-documented family >from Oberfranken, Bavaria.

Re-opening my files on the SS Austria fire in 1858 has resulted in a
new family history mystery for me. My grandmother, who shared a home
for 17 years with her grandmother, Binchen KUPFER, told me that
Binchen's brother-in-law, Karl / Charles KUPFER died in the Austria fire.

"Granny" and I visited the graves of Simon and Binchen STRAUS KUPFER
and also Charles' grave in Philadelphia long ago. The inscription on a
small stone in that plot reads: "In memory of our bother, who died
9/18/1859 (sic) , in the 23rd yr of his age". A tree in the Charles
Stanton Collection at LBI shows a birth date that matches for Karl
(Charles) KUPFER (b. Burgkunstadt September 8, 1836), youngest brother
of my gg grandfather Simon.

A New York Times article about the Austria disaster that included a
list of passengers is very interesting. The list includes a Sigmund
KUPFER and (probably) his wife Bertha KUPFER but not Charles or Karl.
Is that record wrong ? or, perhaps, my grandmother was confused about
which of her grandfather's brothers died on the Austria 20 years
before she was born. Her grandfather did have a brother Sigmund Kupfer
but Sigmund was born Feb. 3, 1832. As I wrote, this is a mystery.

(NOTE: Also listed among the victims on the Austria is Lina IGLAUER,
almost certainly an in-law of the KUPFERs.)

Those interested in this group of families >from near Burgkunstadt and
in the SS Austria disaster (see Wikipedia, Google etc) are invited to
write to the GerSIG list or privately.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC JPLowens@...

Hi,

Does anyone know of draftee lists for in or near KRETINGA?
Or a list of names of those who avoided the draft and thus
their family or village had to pay a fine?

Also would anyone know how to locate the names of elected
(or court/crown) rabbis?

My g-grandfather Hyman GELLIS, born 1877, avoided the draft
in Kretinga district or town, and I have reason to believe
that his father was the elected rabbi of the hamlet or village
where he lived, in or near Kretinga. (I've already looked for
the names of the religious rabbis. What,I'm looking for are the
names of those who performed duties rather like a Justice of
the Peace. My understanding is that all towns of the period
were required to have such.) The name I'm looking for would
probably be SHTERN rather than GELLIS.

Thank you for your help!

Chana Feinstein

Hi,

Does anyone know of draftee lists for in or near KRETINGA?
Or a list of names of those who avoided the draft and thus
their family or village had to pay a fine?

Also would anyone know how to locate the names of elected
(or court/crown) rabbis?

My g-grandfather Hyman GELLIS, born 1877, avoided the draft
in Kretinga district or town, and I have reason to believe
that his father was the elected rabbi of the hamlet or village
where he lived, in or near Kretinga. (I've already looked for
the names of the religious rabbis. What,I'm looking for are the
names of those who performed duties rather like a Justice of
the Peace. My understanding is that all towns of the period
were required to have such.) The name I'm looking for would
probably be SHTERN rather than GELLIS.

Thank you for your help!

Chana Feinstein

MACEVA - http://www.litvak-cemetery.info/ - is a Jewish led organization
in Lithuania dedicated to the restoration of Jewish cemeteries in Lithuania.
Financial support is their major need at this time.

An anonymous donor has offered a challenge grant of $7,000.00 to MACEVA.
The donor will match any and all donations to MACEVA up to $7,000.00. In
effect, the total would amount to a $14,000.00 contribution to MACEVA. This
would enable them to greatly expand the scope of their work.

Due to the cold winters in Lithuania, the work can only be done in the
summer months so time is of the essence. Please do not wait. Make your
contribution now so we can take advantage of this very generous offer.

To make your contribution, go to www.litvaksig.org/contribute Scroll down
to Special Project. In the Notes Block, key in MACEVA. Feel free to use
your credit card as the site is secure.

Howard Margol
Litvak SIG Coordinator for Research and Records Acquisition

MACEVA - http://www.litvak-cemetery.info/ - is a Jewish led organization
in Lithuania dedicated to the restoration of Jewish cemeteries in Lithuania.
Financial support is their major need at this time.

An anonymous donor has offered a challenge grant of $7,000.00 to MACEVA.
The donor will match any and all donations to MACEVA up to $7,000.00. In
effect, the total would amount to a $14,000.00 contribution to MACEVA. This
would enable them to greatly expand the scope of their work.

Due to the cold winters in Lithuania, the work can only be done in the
summer months so time is of the essence. Please do not wait. Make your
contribution now so we can take advantage of this very generous offer.

To make your contribution, go to www.litvaksig.org/contribute Scroll down
to Special Project. In the Notes Block, key in MACEVA. Feel free to use
your credit card as the site is secure.

Howard Margol
Litvak SIG Coordinator for Research and Records Acquisition