Try the OSE archives OSE : A PROFESSIONAL JEWISH ASSOCIATION - Oeuvre de secours aux enfants (ose-france.org)
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Michael Sharp
Manchester UK
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I have a bit of a different story on the multiple port question.
The paternal side of my family lived in a town within the Lublin district and, when my grandfather Louis found out that my uncle Dave (at age 15) was about to be conscripted into the Russian Army, they left for America.
I found their 1st manifest showing they were booked on the SS Kursk to depart 9may1911 from the port of Libau, now Liepaja, Latvia.  But their names were lined out and they did not sail.
The 2nd manifest shows they successfully sailed 6jun1911 on the SS Saxonia from (of all places!!) Trieste, Italy,   Overland..over 1100 miles from Liebau.
The rest of the family (GM, uncles, aunts, cousins) would wait out the time required to get passage money and WW1, arriving 1920-23.
So, why were my GF and uncle denied passage?  Perhaps they got into difficulties trying to leave from a port still part of the Russian Empire.  There are also blanks in the spaces designated for whom they would be joining in the US.  A month later, those spaces have scribbling that suggests an NYC destination.

Marvin Lauwasser
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Hello

 

I would like to hear the opinion of our DNA specialists in order to obtain confirmation that it would not possible to see in the DNA origins by places one line of Jewish Portuguese ancestor starting 8 generations back. If all the other ancestors are Ashkenazi it would still point out a 100 % Ashkenazi origin ?

To put the question differently up to what generation is it possible to track the various Jewish origins on FTDNA and Ancestry ?

Thanks and best regards

Joelle Meyer from Paris

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Focussing for now on my Emden; Germany origins early in the 18th century probably leading to Bunde, Jemgum, and the Groningen region and leading perhaps to the Henriques family of Gluckstadt

Thank you for a very enlightening place. However there is one point that needs clarification. You said that the that had only one son, Moshe. In 'Sefer Hagilgulim" chapter 65, Rabbi Chaim Vital, disciple of the Ari, writes that the Ari had two sons, Moshe and Shlomo. Only on Moshe does he use the past tense and write "zichrono lebrocha".

I recall reading (but don't remember the source) that one of these sons was a son in law of Rabbi Yosef Karo. If so, then he may have had offspring.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem

Hello you should put a post  in english but also in french on the facebook page Association pour la Mémoire de la Shoah or  Devoir de Memoire la Shoah, pour ne pas oublier
Best regards
Catherine JUROVSKY
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Diane M. Jacobs

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) invites you to a Zoom meeting at 1:00 p.m. (Pacific Daylight Time) on Sunday, June 20: "Researching NYC Records Remotely" with Jordan Auslander.

To request a Zoom link, please click here to complete this short registration form. 

Members of JGSSN can attend for free.  Non-members can either pay $5.00 on the Donate page. Or you can pay $20 for a subscription to the 2021 series of outstanding speakers (see below).  More details can be found at https://www.jgssn.org/meetings.html.  To become a member and sign up for the 2021 series, go to the Membership page.

 Session Description:

 As the cosmopolitan gateway to the United States, New York City continues to appeal to those who dream of a better life. Between 1820 and 1920 over 82 percent of immigrants to the United States came through the port of New York. Even if they migrated elsewhere, over 100,000,000 Americans have an ancestral paper trail that involves New York City (of them about 40 million have roots in Brooklyn). Learn how to trace your New York ancestors, whether they were passing through or called it home as well as resources to help you reconnect with family that remained elsewhere. While on-site research is the optimal approach to research, this is not always convenient or feasible.

Nevertheless, much can be accomplished in advance or in lieu of physical travel.  Components of New York City family history can be identified without setting foot on Broadway using a broad array of free and subscription internet sites as well as some conventional sources.  These resources will be evaluated in the context of the questions and needs of lecture participants. 

 About Jordan Auslander:

 Former transportation planner, now New York based genealogical researcher, lecturer and expert witness. Jordan has pursued cases across the United States, Europe and Israel; translated, created and published an index to vital records in the Slovak State Archive system, Genealogical Gazetteer of the Kingdom of Hungary. (and articles including the history and documentation of US participants in WWI),

 
His history BA first applied in title search, real estate and background contracted for various literary projects; Jordan got into genealogy, like everyone else -- too late.  Interest in family history grew while stuck with sorting through bales of material his paternal grandmother accumulated.  He joined the Jewish Genealogical Society in 1988 serving on its board 1994-96; member of the Association of Professional Genealogists and The New York Genealogical & Biographical Society.
 
Applied his theatrical writing and acting pretensions as “Heir Jordan, Extreme Genealogist” Telly award winner for RootsTelevision.com and the ‘reliably inappropriate’ host of IAJGS conference Gameshow Night.

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Become a member for $20 and attend any or all of the upcoming lectures - https://www.jgssn.org/membership.html:

 

Ben Kempner
Vice President, JGSSN

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland (jgscleveland.org) for our next Zoom program on Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 7-8:30 pm EST: “A Story of Rose’s:  Creating a Personal Narrative to Remember and Investigate” with Larry Volk.

 

Program: “A Story of Rose’s” is a biographical narrative about Rosette Alcabes Volk, Larry’s mother and a Holocaust survivor, whose journey brought her from Cuba to France, and later to the United States and Cleveland, Ohio. It is a son’s creative effort to know his mother through significant events that shaped and changed Rose’s identity.  It is an act of remembrance but also investigation.  Through a presentation of his work exploring his mother’s history, Larry will discuss the process of using the photographs and materials that are handed through generations to preserve family history.

 

Speaker: Larry C. Volk is a Cleveland native and Hawken graduate (class of 1980). He holds an MFA in Photography from the Rhode Island School of Design and is a Professor of Photography in the School of Visual and Performing Arts at Endicott College in Beverly, MA. He is an artist, educator, and author and lectured nationally on digital imaging, portfolio production and art practice and has served nationally as a photographic reviewer. As a visual artist, Larry works with a range of photographic media in a variety of contexts.  His work has been exhibited nationally and is held in both private and museum collections. He is co-author of No Plastic Sleeves: The Portfolio and Self-Promotion Guide for designers and photographers published by Focal Press in 2021. Larry’s collection of work and personal story can be found at larryvolk.com.

 

Registration: Required and free - Send an email to rsvp@... by 12 Noon EST on June 2nd to receive a Zoom link.  If you are NOT a JGS Cleveland member, please include your name, email, and complete mailing address.  Space is limited and priority will be given to JGS Cleveland members.

 

 

 

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Dear Ellen:

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Herbert Lazerow
Professor of Law, University of San Diego
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Author: Mastering Art Law (Carolina Academic Press, 2d ed. 2020)

My grandfather Srol Zalmanzon was born to Leyvik Zalmanzon, born 1852 and his first wife. I am unable to find any information about this first marriage. Leyvik Zalmanzon later settled in Rokiskis were he was included in the census since 1886. He remarried and had several children.
I am particularly interested in finding details about the first wife, where the marriage took place, what shtetel they lived in,  so I can try find more information about the family.
Thanks.
Herman Salmenson

There have been many appends recently regarding the genealogy of Issac Luria ("Ari"). My name is Chaim Luria and I have been researching the Luria genealogy for over 20 years. I am also the administrator of the Luria Surname DNA research group on FamilytreeDNA.com. I would like to answer many questions which have been posted recently. The "Ari" is not a descendent of the "Marashal" but is a distant relative. The Ari's only son Moshe died at an early age and is buried near him in Safed. We have no information on any of the Ari's daughters so anyone who contents that he is a descendent of the Ari would have difficulty proving that claim. Because I have Y-DNA samples of confirmed male decedents of the Marashal (they have a proven continuous father to son lineage) we know the Y-DNA fingerprint of the original Luria family (that of the Marashal). If some male thinks that he has a continuous father to son lineage to the Marashal, he can take a Y-DNA test (preferably at least 67 sites) to determine if this connection exists. When a test is done via the FamilytreeDNA.com, you should request to be part of the Luria surname group and make your results Public so that they can be compared with the known fingerprint of the Marashal.

Contrary to popular belief most Luria's do not have a father to son connection to the Marashal (or other members of his family), so it is a fact that most Lurias are not related , the most common reasons being:
1. A male without a surname when required to adopt one in the early 1800's because of government regulations chose the name Luria.
2. A male without a surname married a Luria daughter and adopted her surname for his family.

In order to clarify the relationship between the "Ari" and the "Marashal" I am attaching an abridged family tree to this post.
I do not do family research for individuals, but would be happy to answer questions directed to my e-mail: cluria48@...

Regards,
Chaim Luria
Jerusalem

My second great grandfather Benjamin was born in Mir, in what is now
Belarus in approximately 1864.. His NY death certificate lists his
parents as Zodock and Leah. The 1854 Mir revision list has the
following entry: Yelya son of Tsodyk Head of Household, Tsodyk son
of Yelya as his son, Lifa as his daughter in law. There is no one
else named Tsodyk in the revision list. Is it reasonable to assume
that Tsodyk and Lifa are Benjamin's parents? There is no other
family information so I can't trace any of Yelya's other children
listed in the revision list.
Ellen Gottfried, Plainview, New York

Question: What is Annie’s maiden name, approximately how old was she,
and how was she related to Aaron?

The Characters:

Annie:

Available documentation:

1. Certified Copy of Entry of Marriage, from London in 1898:
Annie WALDERIN age 23 father Louis WALDERIN married Solomon Nadler

2. Ship record 1899 Annie is the mother of Mallie, age 9.

3. Ship manifest: Annie was going to her brother Aaron KENIG

4. Only available birth certificate for any of Annie’s children,
from Connecticut in 1902: Jacob Nadler, mother Annie WALDHORN age 30

5. 1910 census: Annie age 40 1930 census Annie age 60

6. Death record Connecticut 1945: Anna KENIG Nadler born 1869
father Julius KENIG, mother Pauline

7. Tombstone: Chana bat Yehuda

8. Letters from two of Annie’s elderly children listing their
mother’s name as Anna WALDHORN KENIG one said born in 1869 and one
said born in 1874

9. Letter from one child lists Annie’s mother as Pauline WALDHORN KENIG.

10. A newspaper article, from Poland lists Jacob WALDHORN as Annie and
Aaron’s brother.

Annie is not in the 1900 or 1920 censuses. There are no other records
with any information about her.

Aaron:KENIG

Available documentation:

1. Son named Julius whose grave lists his name as Yehuda ben Aaron

2. Application for social security lists his father as Abram KENIG

3. Death certificate Connecticut: Father Julius KENIG, mother Molly

JRI Poland and Gesher Galicia do not have records relevant to these
questions. A brief conversation 10 years ago with Aaron’s
granddaughter included the information that Annie was her aunt.

Is a likely explanation that Annie and Aaron's parents were not legally married?


Ellen Gottfried, Plainview, New York

Interesting question.  This website makes your guess look pretty good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governorates_of_the_Russian_Empire


David Rosen
Boston, MA

In the 1901 UK census some relatives have their birthplace as Russia: Geever Gerberne, which does not seem to exist


I imagine the census taker was making a guess as to what the foreign sounds represented. Other sources have this family coming from Kiev. Could Geever Gerberne be Kyiv Gubernia or is it somewhere else?
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David Scriven
Vancouver, Canada