Today we are announcing two advanced courses:

1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering
Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012.
Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for
you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education,
then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after
February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of
enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15
students).

2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th.
This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census,
vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization,
Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex
research.

For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment
procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a
video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format
of the classes. For questions, please email
JewishGen-Education@...

Thankyou and happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education
Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager

Today we are announcing two advanced courses:

1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering
Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012.
Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for
you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education,
then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after
February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of
enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15
students).

2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th.
This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census,
vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization,
Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex
research.

For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment
procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a
video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format
of the classes. For questions, please email
JewishGen-Education@...

Thankyou and happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education
Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager

Martha,

Naming practices varied >from family to family. I remember Michael Barnett
denying any variation >from the Eastern European tradition because his
family kept that. Well others did change pattern, and several of my
families did, specifically. One thing I have learned in genealogy is to
never say never (or always). Genealogy is finding out what your family did,
not what some rule or tradition was. So Michael Barnett's family could have
lived down the road >from mine, but the kids were named differently.

If Naomi was the first daughter that you know of, do you actually know that
she was the first daughter? Another baby might have died soon after birth,
which might change the pattern if your family followed it.

There is also the problem with name variation. One of my gg grandmothers
had 20 kids with registered births in a small town in Hesse. Her name was
somewhat different on each record. Reiz, Rosa, Regina, Rachel, all sorts of
things starting with R. One daughter was registered as Regina, and my
ggrandmother was Rachel, but Rachel sometimes used Regina. How can you keep
track of the kids, I don't know?

Anyway, as with much of genealogy, there are a lot of challanges.

Certainly, in Europe nobody was Jack or Harry. George, I think, was used in
Germany - I am not sure of that. In my family, Harry is used in the US for
Aaron, although one Harry was Wolf (it was what you liked often, my
grandmother Matilda was born Rosa). Jack could have been Yakutiel - or just
a common American name.

In most small towns in Europe, if records exist, it is easy to know who the
parent of the baby was. If the records don't exist, then you have to see if
you can find any records of people in the town, then sort them out if you
can; but you have to be careful not to assume that them name that you know
was the father of your ancestor, as he may have had 4 brothers who weren't
mentioned. Often there were several descendents of the same family, as in
Kuelsheim, which was full of Bruckheimers, so a holocaust survivor >from
there thought Bruckheimer a common name - but I had a copy of the
Bruckheimer family tree, courtesy of other cousins, so I knew how he was
related to me.

As for 'authorities', I would suggest any Jewish genealogy book or the
Jewishgen archives.

Sally Bruckheimer
Piscataway, NJ

Martha asked:
"Sally, do you have any references on the naming practice you describe
below? Where it was prevalent - anything? The reason I ask is that the
we have little information about my great-grandparents' first names -
however their first child (a daughter) was named Naomi - her mother's
mother may have been Naomi (not certain) and we have no info about her
father's mother; their first son appears to have been named after his
father's father. Are you confused yet?
Avraham ben Yaakov and Chena bat Avram (but I question bat Avram)'s
children are:
1. daughter Naomi
2. son Jack
and two more sons, Harry and George. (What names might "Harry" and
"George" derive from?)"

Martha,

Naming practices varied >from family to family. I remember Michael Barnett
denying any variation >from the Eastern European tradition because his
family kept that. Well others did change pattern, and several of my
families did, specifically. One thing I have learned in genealogy is to
never say never (or always). Genealogy is finding out what your family did,
not what some rule or tradition was. So Michael Barnett's family could have
lived down the road >from mine, but the kids were named differently.

If Naomi was the first daughter that you know of, do you actually know that
she was the first daughter? Another baby might have died soon after birth,
which might change the pattern if your family followed it.

There is also the problem with name variation. One of my gg grandmothers
had 20 kids with registered births in a small town in Hesse. Her name was
somewhat different on each record. Reiz, Rosa, Regina, Rachel, all sorts of
things starting with R. One daughter was registered as Regina, and my
ggrandmother was Rachel, but Rachel sometimes used Regina. How can you keep
track of the kids, I don't know?

Anyway, as with much of genealogy, there are a lot of challanges.

Certainly, in Europe nobody was Jack or Harry. George, I think, was used in
Germany - I am not sure of that. In my family, Harry is used in the US for
Aaron, although one Harry was Wolf (it was what you liked often, my
grandmother Matilda was born Rosa). Jack could have been Yakutiel - or just
a common American name.

In most small towns in Europe, if records exist, it is easy to know who the
parent of the baby was. If the records don't exist, then you have to see if
you can find any records of people in the town, then sort them out if you
can; but you have to be careful not to assume that them name that you know
was the father of your ancestor, as he may have had 4 brothers who weren't
mentioned. Often there were several descendents of the same family, as in
Kuelsheim, which was full of Bruckheimers, so a holocaust survivor >from
there thought Bruckheimer a common name - but I had a copy of the
Bruckheimer family tree, courtesy of other cousins, so I knew how he was
related to me.

As for 'authorities', I would suggest any Jewish genealogy book or the
Jewishgen archives.

Sally Bruckheimer
Piscataway, NJ

Martha asked:
"Sally, do you have any references on the naming practice you describe
below? Where it was prevalent - anything? The reason I ask is that the
we have little information about my great-grandparents' first names -
however their first child (a daughter) was named Naomi - her mother's
mother may have been Naomi (not certain) and we have no info about her
father's mother; their first son appears to have been named after his
father's father. Are you confused yet?
Avraham ben Yaakov and Chena bat Avram (but I question bat Avram)'s
children are:
1. daughter Naomi
2. son Jack
and two more sons, Harry and George. (What names might "Harry" and
"George" derive from?)"

Sorry, ignore my request. I just did some more searching on the person
who's gravestone we thought might be a newly relative, but it turned out
the person wasn't related.

Mark London

Mark London wrote:

Sorry, ignore my request. I just did some more searching on the person
who's gravestone we thought might be a newly relative, but it turned out
the person wasn't related.

Mark London

Mark London wrote:

Shalom,

The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to
help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should
have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images,
copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG
files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text
files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or
two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert,
Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html

Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the
National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library,
for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and
maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will
insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor
Books.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

Shalom,

The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to
help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should
have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images,
copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG
files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text
files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or
two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert,
Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html

Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the
National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library,
for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and
maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will
insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor
Books.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

Shalom,

The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to
help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should
have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images,
copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG
files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text
files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or
two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert,
Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html

Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the
National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library,
for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and
maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will
insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor
Books.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

Shalom,

The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to
help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should
have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images,
copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG
files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text
files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or
two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert,
Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html

Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the
National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library,
for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and
maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will
insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor
Books.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

Hi - Someone on this list told me that they were going to be going to
the archives that contain naturalization records, but not right away.
I lost your email somehow. Can you please send me your email again?
I am in no rush, so I would be willing to wait, as I have not had
any other offers. Thanks. - Mark

Today we are announcing two advanced courses:

1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering
Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012.
Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for
you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education,
then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after
February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of
enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15
students).

2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th.
This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census,
vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization,
Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex
research.

For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment
procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a
video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format
of the classes. For questions, please email
JewishGen-Education@...

Thank you and happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education
Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager

Hi - Someone on this list told me that they were going to be going to
the archives that contain naturalization records, but not right away.
I lost your email somehow. Can you please send me your email again?
I am in no rush, so I would be willing to wait, as I have not had
any other offers. Thanks. - Mark

Today we are announcing two advanced courses:

1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering
Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012.
Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for
you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education,
then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after
February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of
enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15
students).

2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th.
This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census,
vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization,
Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex
research.

For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment
procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a
video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format
of the classes. For questions, please email
JewishGen-Education@...

Thank you and happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education
Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager

Is there a way to search for Paris burials for 1962, when all I have is a
surname and the parents' given names? (I have a given name for the
deceased, but it is Yiddish, so it may not be what he used for official
documents.)

I do not have a precise date nor do I know that he died in Paris. He was not
married and had no children.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

Is there a way to search for Paris burials for 1962, when all I have is a
surname and the parents' given names? (I have a given name for the
deceased, but it is Yiddish, so it may not be what he used for official
documents.)

I do not have a precise date nor do I know that he died in Paris. He was not
married and had no children.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

Shalom,

The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to
help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should
have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images,
copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG
files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text
files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or
two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert,
Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html

Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the
National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library,
for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and
maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will
insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor
Books.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

Shalom,

The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to
help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should
have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images,
copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG
files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text
files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or
two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert,
Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html

Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the
National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library,
for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and
maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will
insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor
Books.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

I just noticed that in this thread, no one has mentioned Italiangen.org
They have an index of NYC deaths to 1948, and marriage records to 1937 and
they have now expanded to Suffolk and Nassau counties for marriages up to
1935. And I have been able to look up the correct film number on
FamilySearch.org and order via the Family Search order form for $2 each
(minimum order $4) no more than one order every two weeks.

Sarah L M Christiansen
Georgetown, TX

I just noticed that in this thread, no one has mentioned Italiangen.org
They have an index of NYC deaths to 1948, and marriage records to 1937 and
they have now expanded to Suffolk and Nassau counties for marriages up to
1935. And I have been able to look up the correct film number on
FamilySearch.org and order via the Family Search order form for $2 each
(minimum order $4) no more than one order every two weeks.

Sarah L M Christiansen
Georgetown, TX