I believe a cousin of mine who died young in 1930 married the nurse
who took care of him at Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC. There was no
mention of a wife on the death notice on Augusut 5, 1930. Does anyone
know how I can verify this and/or trace the marriage license? Thanks.

David Laskin, Seattle, WA

I believe a cousin of mine who died young in 1930 married the nurse
who took care of him at Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC. There was no
mention of a wife on the death notice on Augusut 5, 1930. Does anyone
know how I can verify this and/or trace the marriage license? Thanks.

David Laskin, Seattle, WA

Dear Cousins,

Barbara Zimmer asked about obtaining the death certificate of somebody who
died maybe before 1930 while at Central Islip Psychiatric Hospital in New York.

She is correct in that there are two ways of doing this for deaths in New
York State that occurred outside New York City and more than 50 years ago -

from the New York State Department of Health or the town clerk. However, if

possible, she should first search the death indices for New York State to
make the request more specific. In addition to being slow, the New York
Department of Health charges by the year for index searches, and depending
how records are organized, the town clerk may not be able search without
knowing the year.

I note that Barbara is located in Virginia, and probably doesn't have easy
access to the New York indices, but if she supplies the name, maybe
somebody will have time to look.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Dear Cousins,

Barbara Zimmer asked about obtaining the death certificate of somebody who
died maybe before 1930 while at Central Islip Psychiatric Hospital in New York.

She is correct in that there are two ways of doing this for deaths in New
York State that occurred outside New York City and more than 50 years ago -

from the New York State Department of Health or the town clerk. However, if

possible, she should first search the death indices for New York State to
make the request more specific. In addition to being slow, the New York
Department of Health charges by the year for index searches, and depending
how records are organized, the town clerk may not be able search without
knowing the year.

I note that Barbara is located in Virginia, and probably doesn't have easy
access to the New York indices, but if she supplies the name, maybe
somebody will have time to look.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Hans Joachim Schneider published an article (in German) in the
periodical "Die Heimat" (which prints contributions on the history of
Solingen and the Bergisch Land). [MOD NOTE on location of Solinen below].
In its issue 26 (2010/2011), p. 59-76, appeared his article with the title

"In Solingen geboren - in der Shoah gestorben: Solinger Juden, die die
Schreckensherrschaft nicht überlebten".
(Born in Solingen - died in the Shoah: Solingen Jews who did not survive
the terror's rule)

The article provides as much biographical data as possible on the
following Solingen-born names: BLUM, BUSCHER, COHN, DAVID, ELKISCH,
FEIDELBERG, FEIST, FRIEDBERGER, FRIEDLÄNDER, FRIESEM, GOTTHELF,
GRUNEWALD, KADISCH, KAUFMANN, KRAUSS, LUBASCHER, MARX, MAYER, MEIROWITZ,
MEYER, MICHELSOHN, MOSES, NUSSBAUM, REICHENBERG, SALOMON, STERN, WAAG.

The author can be reached through the email address

Hans Joachim Schneider <snow.schneider@...>

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

MOD NOTE: Solingen is 14 miles E of Duesseldorf and 18 miles NNEast of Koeln.
The JewishGen Gazetteer http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp can
provide a list of all towns in a 10 mile radius of Solingen and much more.

Hans Joachim Schneider published an article (in German) in the
periodical "Die Heimat" (which prints contributions on the history of
Solingen and the Bergisch Land). [MOD NOTE on location of Solinen below].
In its issue 26 (2010/2011), p. 59-76, appeared his article with the title

"In Solingen geboren - in der Shoah gestorben: Solinger Juden, die die
Schreckensherrschaft nicht überlebten".
(Born in Solingen - died in the Shoah: Solingen Jews who did not survive
the terror's rule)

The article provides as much biographical data as possible on the
following Solingen-born names: BLUM, BUSCHER, COHN, DAVID, ELKISCH,
FEIDELBERG, FEIST, FRIEDBERGER, FRIEDLÄNDER, FRIESEM, GOTTHELF,
GRUNEWALD, KADISCH, KAUFMANN, KRAUSS, LUBASCHER, MARX, MAYER, MEIROWITZ,
MEYER, MICHELSOHN, MOSES, NUSSBAUM, REICHENBERG, SALOMON, STERN, WAAG.

The author can be reached through the email address

Hans Joachim Schneider <snow.schneider@...>

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

MOD NOTE: Solingen is 14 miles E of Duesseldorf and 18 miles NNEast of Koeln.
The JewishGen Gazetteer http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp can
provide a list of all towns in a 10 mile radius of Solingen and much more.

Dear researchers,

I am very pleased to announce that there will be a Rohatyn Birds of a
Feather (BOF) meeting on the opening day of the 32nd Annual IAJGS Conference next summer in Paris, Sunday, 15 July 2012 at 5:00 p.m.

This meeting is open to anyone with family connections to the Galician
town of Rohatyn, or is generally interested in learning more about the
town, its former Jewish community, and Jewish research sources abroad.

The following is a synopsis.


Today, Rohatyn is located in western
Ukraine, less than two hours' drive south >from the beautiful historic
city of Lviv (formerly, Lemberg and Lwow). In many ways, Rohatyn was
- and is - a typical eastern Galician town: during the inter-War
years its population was 50% Jewish; at the outbreak of WWII, its
population was 1/3 Polish, 1/3 Jewish, and 1/3 Ukrainian. It was
multi-lingual and culturally vibrant, and was commercially linked by
rail to Lwow, Tarnopol, and Chernivtsi. Many Rohatyn Jewish families sent their sons and daughters to
prestigious academic Universities in Krakow, Vienna, Prague, and
Budapest, and maintained strong business connections as well to these
urban â??jewelsâ?? in the crown of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

The Rohatyn BOF meeting will be
conducted by Marla Raucher Osborn, a member of the Board of Directors
of Gesher Galicia. Over 2011, Marla spent five months living and
researching in Lviv, making more than half a dozen trips to Rohatyn.
Marla will discuss her Rohatyn trips and discoveries, as well as the
undertaking of a long-term project to recover the Jewish headstone
fragments still found around the town today and their return to
Rohatyn's former Jewish cemetery. She will also present slides and
other information about the box of Jewish paper scraps discovered in
the 2011 renovation of a building that housed the Rohatyn Judenrat
during the Nazi occupation, the proposed future plans for translating
and exhibiting of these rare and important artifacts, and her
meetings with various townspeople and officials during 2011. Marla
will also talk about the Rohatyn Shtetl Research Group (â??RSRGâ??),
founded in 2009 by Dr. Alex Feller, today with more than 150 members
worldwide, all of whom have family or historic connections to the
town, like herself. Time permitting, Marla will also share examples
of the many and varied types of records she has obtained across
western and central Europe for her Rohatyn family (>from sources in
Lviv, Vienna, Krakow, Warsaw, and Munich, to name a few), plus
discuss the RSRG's latest, exciting project: the overlaying of
Rohatyn's 1846 cadastral maps onto google maps, allowing users to
zoom in on their pre-War ancestral homes and businesses!

Bilingual in English and French, Marla will be happy to take and respond to questions and comments from
those attending this BOF meeting. We hope you can join her at 5:00
p.m. on Sunday, July 15th.
Please continue to check with the
Conference website for updates and room changes:
http://www.paris2012.eu/events/rohatyn-ukraine-bof
Kind regards,

Marla Raucher Osborn
headed to Krakow for 3 months,
then back to Paris, France for 2012

osborn@...

Researching surnames HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING, and KURZROCK >from Rohatyn
and TEICHMAN >from Chodorow (Galicia, Western Ukraine); SILBER >from Ulanow and
Sokolow Malapolski (Poland); BLECHER >from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova);
BRUNSHTEIN/BROWNSTEIN/BRONSTEIN, SARFAS/CHARFAS, and FABER >from
Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy  (Ukraine); FRANKENBERG >from Vilnius (Lithuania);
and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER and KESTENBAUM/KOSTENBAUM /KASTENBAUM >from
Przemysl (Poland)

Dear researchers,

I am very pleased to announce that there will be a Rohatyn Birds of a
Feather (BOF) meeting on the opening day of the 32nd Annual IAJGS Conference next summer in Paris, Sunday, 15 July 2012 at 5:00 p.m.

This meeting is open to anyone with family connections to the Galician
town of Rohatyn, or is generally interested in learning more about the
town, its former Jewish community, and Jewish research sources abroad.

The following is a synopsis.


Today, Rohatyn is located in western
Ukraine, less than two hours' drive south >from the beautiful historic
city of Lviv (formerly, Lemberg and Lwow). In many ways, Rohatyn was
- and is - a typical eastern Galician town: during the inter-War
years its population was 50% Jewish; at the outbreak of WWII, its
population was 1/3 Polish, 1/3 Jewish, and 1/3 Ukrainian. It was
multi-lingual and culturally vibrant, and was commercially linked by
rail to Lwow, Tarnopol, and Chernivtsi. Many Rohatyn Jewish families sent their sons and daughters to
prestigious academic Universities in Krakow, Vienna, Prague, and
Budapest, and maintained strong business connections as well to these
urban â??jewelsâ?? in the crown of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

The Rohatyn BOF meeting will be
conducted by Marla Raucher Osborn, a member of the Board of Directors
of Gesher Galicia. Over 2011, Marla spent five months living and
researching in Lviv, making more than half a dozen trips to Rohatyn.
Marla will discuss her Rohatyn trips and discoveries, as well as the
undertaking of a long-term project to recover the Jewish headstone
fragments still found around the town today and their return to
Rohatyn's former Jewish cemetery. She will also present slides and
other information about the box of Jewish paper scraps discovered in
the 2011 renovation of a building that housed the Rohatyn Judenrat
during the Nazi occupation, the proposed future plans for translating
and exhibiting of these rare and important artifacts, and her
meetings with various townspeople and officials during 2011. Marla
will also talk about the Rohatyn Shtetl Research Group (â??RSRGâ??),
founded in 2009 by Dr. Alex Feller, today with more than 150 members
worldwide, all of whom have family or historic connections to the
town, like herself. Time permitting, Marla will also share examples
of the many and varied types of records she has obtained across
western and central Europe for her Rohatyn family (>from sources in
Lviv, Vienna, Krakow, Warsaw, and Munich, to name a few), plus
discuss the RSRG's latest, exciting project: the overlaying of
Rohatyn's 1846 cadastral maps onto google maps, allowing users to
zoom in on their pre-War ancestral homes and businesses!

Bilingual in English and French, Marla will be happy to take and respond to questions and comments from
those attending this BOF meeting. We hope you can join her at 5:00
p.m. on Sunday, July 15th.
Please continue to check with the
Conference website for updates and room changes:
http://www.paris2012.eu/events/rohatyn-ukraine-bof
Kind regards,

Marla Raucher Osborn
headed to Krakow for 3 months,
then back to Paris, France for 2012

osborn@...

Researching surnames HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING, and KURZROCK >from Rohatyn
and TEICHMAN >from Chodorow (Galicia, Western Ukraine); SILBER >from Ulanow and
Sokolow Malapolski (Poland); BLECHER >from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova);
BRUNSHTEIN/BROWNSTEIN/BRONSTEIN, SARFAS/CHARFAS, and FABER >from
Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy  (Ukraine); FRANKENBERG >from Vilnius (Lithuania);
and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER and KESTENBAUM/KOSTENBAUM /KASTENBAUM >from
Przemysl (Poland)

Hello:

My paternal side, the Waldmann, Franz and Blau family, apparently
came >from Berdichev, now Ukraine, but in the Russian Empire when they
left starting in 1891. How can I find the census, tax poll records,
Metrical books or Cadastral records so that I can actually locate
these family records. The family "lore" was that great grandmother
Rebecca Franz (maiden name Waldmann) came >from what she said was
"Bedicheva" in "Russia". I have not been able to find anything
already translated (like the Poland-JRI for my Galician side) into
English that I can actually read.

Any help would be appreciated. I was able to locate some Russian
language Metrical references on the LDS site, but that is about all
and I have not ordered the film nor figured out how to translate
these without the services of someone who is sitting next to me
during the microfiche search.

Thanks in advance,

Sherri Venezia
Davis, CA

sher@...

Hi All,
According to records my paternal grandfather and his siblings ) came to the US at the beginning of the 20th Century (1903-1913). They said they came >from "Russia" but later on a record indicated Latvia and another Lithuania.

According to cemetery records, two of the brothers & their wives were buried in Beth David Cemetery, in "Sharkotziner Ben. Assn. Inc." grounds. This organization is now defunct. The JewishGen Gazetteer has Sharkovshchina in both the Ukraine (near Kiev) and Belarus (written here as Sharkowshchyna, near Minsk). How can I tell which one they probably came from?

Thank you,
Marilyn Robinson
YUDIN/YUDIEN
Florida

Hello:

My paternal side, the Waldmann, Franz and Blau family, apparently
came >from Berdichev, now Ukraine, but in the Russian Empire when they
left starting in 1891. How can I find the census, tax poll records,
Metrical books or Cadastral records so that I can actually locate
these family records. The family "lore" was that great grandmother
Rebecca Franz (maiden name Waldmann) came >from what she said was
"Bedicheva" in "Russia". I have not been able to find anything
already translated (like the Poland-JRI for my Galician side) into
English that I can actually read.

Any help would be appreciated. I was able to locate some Russian
language Metrical references on the LDS site, but that is about all
and I have not ordered the film nor figured out how to translate
these without the services of someone who is sitting next to me
during the microfiche search.

Thanks in advance,

Sherri Venezia
Davis, CA

sher@...

Hi All,
According to records my paternal grandfather and his siblings ) came to the US at the beginning of the 20th Century (1903-1913). They said they came >from "Russia" but later on a record indicated Latvia and another Lithuania.

According to cemetery records, two of the brothers & their wives were buried in Beth David Cemetery, in "Sharkotziner Ben. Assn. Inc." grounds. This organization is now defunct. The JewishGen Gazetteer has Sharkovshchina in both the Ukraine (near Kiev) and Belarus (written here as Sharkowshchyna, near Minsk). How can I tell which one they probably came from?

Thank you,
Marilyn Robinson
YUDIN/YUDIEN
Florida

I am researching the family of my husband's maternal grandfather,
Kalman>Charles WEINSTEIN >from Hotin>Khotin. I have also heard that the
name may be VAINSTEIN. Charles b 14 Oct 1901 in Hotin, i 18 Mar 1923 NYC m
3 Mar 1928 to Fannie>Feige RECHTER NYC d 10 May 1971 NYC
His parents were Schmuel>Samuel WEINSTEIN and Sarah PHILSTEIN GERMIN, the
father of Samuel was Moishe WEINSTEIN. The parents of Sarah were Izzy
PHILSTEIN GERMIN and Sheindel.
Charles had a sibling in the US, his brother Meyer WEINSTEIN. There was a
brother Baruch WEINSTEIN, possibly stayed in Hotin, and possibly two other
sisters, name unknown, and another brother, name unknown.

We would be most appreciative for any suggestions or assistance in
researching the town of Hotin, and the family there. I have not found any
bmd records for the family in Hotin
Thank you all



Judi Kessel Wagner
Florida

Researching: KESSEL>KISSILEVSKIJ and BRODY( NovoPriluki and Berdichev
Ukraine), KLEIN, GROSZMAN and HEIZER (Satoraljauhely, Ladmocz, Kisigand
Hungary) HIRSCHFELD and CZEIGER (Hodod Romania) RECHTER and HALPERN
(Cisow, Dolina, Bolechow Galicia) WEINSTEIN>VAINSTEIN and PHILSTEIN GERMIN
(Khotin Bessarabia) WAGNER and MILETSKY ( Odessa and Sherehive)

My wife was born in Briceva, Bessarabia (Ukraine at the time) right at the end
of WWII. Her parents, Shmuel LERNER (1917-2009) and Lea GANDELMAN (1920-2009),
were also born in Briceva. As a young able bodied couple they were evacuated
by the retreating Soviet army to Grozny, Chechnya at the beginning of the war.
All of their parents and siblings who were left behind perished in the
holocaust. Shmuel's parents were Tzvi Dov (Hersh Ber) Lerner and Gitl
SHECHTMAN. Lea's parents were Yechiel Michel Gandelman and Sara Shechtman.
The two Shechtman grandmothers were not directly related to each other.

All we know about my wife's ancestors is based on the memories of her late
parents. We have not found any vital records to help us build her family
tree further back. Does anyone know of vital records for Briceva?

Rumor is that the local records were lost in a fire in the 1950s or 60s.
One of the Shechtman branches of ancestors was >from Mogilev-Podolsk, Ukraine.
Are there any records >from there?

Elan Caspi
El Cerrito, CA

My wife was born in Briceva, Bessarabia (Ukraine at the time) right at the end
of WWII. Her parents, Shmuel LERNER (1917-2009) and Lea GANDELMAN (1920-2009),
were also born in Briceva. As a young able bodied couple they were evacuated
by the retreating Soviet army to Grozny, Chechnya at the beginning of the war.
All of their parents and siblings who were left behind perished in the
holocaust. Shmuel's parents were Tzvi Dov (Hersh Ber) Lerner and Gitl
SHECHTMAN. Lea's parents were Yechiel Michel Gandelman and Sara Shechtman.
The two Shechtman grandmothers were not directly related to each other.

All we know about my wife's ancestors is based on the memories of her late
parents. We have not found any vital records to help us build her family
tree further back. Does anyone know of vital records for Briceva?

Rumor is that the local records were lost in a fire in the 1950s or 60s.
One of the Shechtman branches of ancestors was >from Mogilev-Podolsk, Ukraine.
Are there any records >from there?

Elan Caspi
El Cerrito, CA

I am researching the family of my husband's maternal grandfather,
Kalman>Charles WEINSTEIN >from Hotin>Khotin. I have also heard that the
name may be VAINSTEIN. Charles b 14 Oct 1901 in Hotin, i 18 Mar 1923 NYC m
3 Mar 1928 to Fannie>Feige RECHTER NYC d 10 May 1971 NYC
His parents were Schmuel>Samuel WEINSTEIN and Sarah PHILSTEIN GERMIN, the
father of Samuel was Moishe WEINSTEIN. The parents of Sarah were Izzy
PHILSTEIN GERMIN and Sheindel.
Charles had a sibling in the US, his brother Meyer WEINSTEIN. There was a
brother Baruch WEINSTEIN, possibly stayed in Hotin, and possibly two other
sisters, name unknown, and another brother, name unknown.

We would be most appreciative for any suggestions or assistance in
researching the town of Hotin, and the family there. I have not found any
bmd records for the family in Hotin
Thank you all



Judi Kessel Wagner
Florida

Researching: KESSEL>KISSILEVSKIJ and BRODY( NovoPriluki and Berdichev
Ukraine), KLEIN, GROSZMAN and HEIZER (Satoraljauhely, Ladmocz, Kisigand
Hungary) HIRSCHFELD and CZEIGER (Hodod Romania) RECHTER and HALPERN
(Cisow, Dolina, Bolechow Galicia) WEINSTEIN>VAINSTEIN and PHILSTEIN GERMIN
(Khotin Bessarabia) WAGNER and MILETSKY ( Odessa and Sherehive)

Hello All,

My name is Bruce Ballaban and my family came >from the town of Yampol.
I have been lucky enough to find the marriage record of my great
grandparents, Shoil Zalman Balaban and Feyga Preyger. She came from
Tulchin. I know that his father was Meir/Meer and his mother was
Sarah. >from searching the records I believe there was a group of
Balaban's in Yampol, however I'm having difficulty making the
connections. Were they cousins? I don't have much information on
Yampol. I know that my great grandparents were killed by the Nazis in
1941.

I haven't been there, but I would like to go.

Anything anyone can tell me about Yampol and where I might be able to
find more information would be great.

Thanks and good luck everyone!

Bruce Ballaban
bruce.ballaban@...

Hello All,

My name is Bruce Ballaban and my family came >from the town of Yampol.
I have been lucky enough to find the marriage record of my great
grandparents, Shoil Zalman Balaban and Feyga Preyger. She came from
Tulchin. I know that his father was Meir/Meer and his mother was
Sarah. >from searching the records I believe there was a group of
Balaban's in Yampol, however I'm having difficulty making the
connections. Were they cousins? I don't have much information on
Yampol. I know that my great grandparents were killed by the Nazis in
1941.

I haven't been there, but I would like to go.

Anything anyone can tell me about Yampol and where I might be able to
find more information would be great.

Thanks and good luck everyone!

Bruce Ballaban
bruce.ballaban@...

My name is ALA (formal name Alexandra) GAMULKA and I was born in Bucharest,
Romania. My mother Bracha BERCOVICI was born in TARUTINO, Bessarabia to
Haia LERNER of BENDERY and Alter Moishe BERCOVICI (listed in the 1906 Duma
as coming >from Izmayil). My father was Isaac TULCHINSKY, born in TIRASPOL.
His parents were Hannah SHENKAR >from KISHINEV and Yoseph Tulchinsky of
Tiraspol. You can read my father's story on the Bessarabia SIG page. He
lived in Bendery for many years. Several years ago I was lucky to find
Yefim Kogan through jewishgen. His ggm was my father's half-sister. So we
are related!

My husband was born in Kovel, now Ukraine and his parents were first cousins.
He survived the war hiding in the forest. Many members of the extended family
came to Canada, United States and Israel. I have not been able to find any
information on the Gamulka side as most of them werel murdered by the Nazis.
When I hit stumbling blocks, and there have been many, I use my knowledge of
languages to contribute to jewishgen. I translated the Rokitno Yizkor Book
my husband's home town) and I am now doing two projects: translating the
Bendery Yizkor Book and transliterating/translating the Bendery Business
Directory.
I have lived in Canada for many years Montreal and now Toronto) and I am a
retired educator.

Ala Gamulka
Toronto

Hello Group!

My name is Alex Volkov, my maternal grandfather Saul (Shael) Falicoff
so spelled as Falikov and variations) was born in Tarutino (Tarutine, Anchok
rak), Bessarabia, in 1912.

Few of Saul's paternal line relatives, Falicoffs, lived in Tarutino, but
they mostly arrived >from Kylia, with a possible brief stop in Vilkovo
(possibly for just one generation before Saul). At least three Falicoffs
lived in Tarutino at the time of WW II (besides my grandfather), >from where
two of them went to WW II as soldiers to fight and survived, although
severely wounded.

Saul's maternal line had last name Genesin (or Ghinessin) and they lived in
Tarutino for several generations, arrived there >from Dombroveni. Ghinessins
came to settle in Dombroveni early in 19th century (revisions list says they
bought a license) and stood there for at least 50 years.

Genessins and Falicoffs had several inter-family marriages, I know of at least
two. By a funny coincidence Itzhok Genesin (my great-great-grandfather) had
several daughters, while Usher-Meyer Falicoff had mostly sons.

His father, Moses Falicoff immigrated to USA in 1913, when Saul was still
baby. Moses arrived to NY, to his father, Asher-Meyer Falicoff, who immigrated
earlier. Asher-Meyer had 2 or 3 wives during his life, and arrived to USA
approximately in 1905, with his youngest son on his hands (born during the
trip). Asher-Meyer had many sons, to descendants of at least two of those
I as able to connect. He later took a trip on a steamship >from NY to England
and that ship was sank by Germans, during WW I. It could be Lucitania, but
there are no facts confirming it.

Saul Falicoff, with his mother Rosa Genessin and his sister Dvoira Falicoff,
came to USA in 1920s, according to ship's papers with a permanent residence
permission. But, something didn't work out, all three returned back to
Tarutino, and consequentially Rosa and Dvoira were shot to death by Nazis,
when WW II started. Also, first wife of Saul and a baby (either Saul's
or Dvoira)were shot. It happened in town called Mineralnue Vodi, where family
was found on their escape migration trip away >from the frontline. Saul himself
survived, because he happened to be away at the time of execution, he went to
look for a job.

He later joined Soviet Red Army as a doctor (he graduated >from Iasi University
as surgeon in 1937) and fought Nazis through the war, also met there a nurse,
my future grandmother, my mother was born right after the war's end, and
that's how I eventually was born.

During my research, I found that a big branch of Falicoffs >from Kylia
immigrated to Argentina, some still remain there, and some branches later
re-immigrated to USA. >from what we found, it appears that Falicoffs was a huge
family in Kylia at the eve of 19th century, plenty of cousins and children.

Alex Volkoff