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Machpelah Cemetery 82-30 Cypress Hills St., Glendale, NY 11385
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Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
My ancestral shul, Congregation Beth Hamedrash Hagodol, formerly of
Norfolk Street on the Lower East Side, was tragically burned to the ground in 2017 after serving the Jewish community for 120 years. BHH had two burial grounds, one at Machpelah and one at Union Field. Machpelah is now a ruin and is in terrible shape. I would like to make contact with anyone who might still be in charge of the cemetery and its ledger record books. The IAJGS cemetery project contact for Machpelah is no longer functioning. Does anyone have contact information or know if the ledger record books still exist? Does anyone know if the NY Jewish community, the City, or the State have any plans to rehabilitate the cemetery, fix the broken stones, and cut back the jungle? It is truly a shanda to leave it in decay. Thank you. Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman Executive Director Tree of Life Heritage Foundation www.tolheritage.org MAIPER, MELTSNER, AUG, WERNER, SATINSKY, NEVIAZHSKY, RAPHAEL, RODOFF, NEWMAN, ROMM, NUROCK, MARCUS, KANTER, GORDON, BLOCH, CHIPKIN, MOISEIWITSCH, KRULL, LEVIN(E), ZUBACH, ZILBERKWEIT Rumsiskes, Telz, Plunge, Kelem, Novy Dvor, Zagare, Bauska, New York, Philadelphia, Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman Executive Director Tree of Life Heritage Foundation www.tolheritage.org (949) 292-3131 |
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Do these siblings have the same mother? A Yiddish given name question
#names
There are 4 people, immigrants from Minsk Gubernia, who lived in New York City and/or Canada who I can identify as siblings via Census records or immigration manifests or other documents. I've tracked down their parents' names on death or marriage records. All 4 list their father as Abraham or Abram. But the mothers are different. So what do you think, name variations or dad had a 2nd spouse:
Lewis, b. 1894, mother is Nussa Jacob, b. 1891, mother is Mashe Karlin Sarah, b. 1877, mother is Gossie Karlin Morris, b. 1870, mother is Rose So, are these 4 mothers the same person? -- Phil Karlin Hartford, CT USA |
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Charmatz family from Lithuania
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My paternal grandfather's family name was Charmatz. they lived in Lithuania. I know that the name is an acronym for "Son in law of Reb Moshe Tzvi" However, I do not know who Reb Moshe Tzvi was or where he lived. I am hoping that learning that information will help me trace that branch of my family before 1809 which is the approximate birth year of my great, great grandfather, Ber Iankel Charmatz.
Jack Jacobson Milwaukee, WI jack.s.jacobson@... American family mostly from the Boston, MA area |
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Jx. Gx.
Jeff,
Sorry to complicate things, but I came up with Belura or Beluras just by looking at the letters. I was trying to match the letters used in this name with letters used in other parts of the certificate. One thing I did in a similar situation with my great-grandmother's maiden name was to take all the possible spellings and do a Google search for those names. I wanted to see if the names I came up with are actual surnames for people. I was able to eliminate one or two of my possible spellings because I never found anyone with those names. If you do this, keep in mind that the person you are searching for was born in Austria so you would most likely be looking for people with a similar regional background. This isn't a perfect system, but it can help to steer you toward the right choice. I was able to narrow my ggm's maiden name to two possibilities. Jeffrey Gee Arizona |
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M Tobiasiewicz
Ok folks, I fell for it. I actually went to the parking lot and tried to log in.
It appeared that were several hot wifi's in the area. So I tried them all. I tried many versions of the password - lower case, initial cap, all caps -- nothing got me signed in! So unless you are really bored and have nothing else to do, take the trip. As for me, I would spend my time watching a movie instead! -- Maryellen Tobiasiewicz |
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Offering New Montefiore Cemetery photos (Long Island, NY)
#photographs
#usa
A. E. Jordan
I am going to make a brief visit to New Montefiore Cemetery (West Babylon, NY) on Sunday and wanted to offer the possibility of photos while I am there.
I have to emphasize time will be limited so it may be a sort of lottery or pot luck if I get too many requests. But I will do what I can especially if the requests happen to be close to the graves that I am going out there for.
Process I follow is fairly simple in offering to take photos for people.
You ID the grave from the cemetery's online database and send me the details. I take a photo and email it to you and in turn I appreciate a few dollars to help defer the expense of doing this for everyone, ie gasoline money.
I am happy to help out where I can, but please don't send me a generic name and ask me to find the person at the cemetery and please don't send me around the cemetery to find the 20 people named Jack Cohen because one of them might possibly be your long lost cousin. The cemetery is massive and a few people have asked me to do that and it is a very slow process that takes a lot of time and gasoline, etc.
Also if you are asking for an infant or child's grave please tell me. They are mostly in separate areas of the plots and a lot of those graves do not have markers.
New Montefiore is one of the best organized cemeteries and has a very good database and you can also call the office and they will help with some additional information on the telephone.
It is better if you search the name on the New Montefiore database versus the commercial Find a Grave because the position information and data is better at the cemetery's page.
Feel free to ask me questions via email and ask about other NYC area cemeteries because I will visit most of them as the spring/summer progresses. There's a few I do not go to because of distance or safety issues.
Please respect the discussion group and send your specific requests to me privately by replying to this email or my email address aejordan at aol dot com.
Allan Jordan
New York
PS for folks who asked me for Mt Hebron a few weeks ago I have done about half the results but they are still on my camera. Unfortunately it rained last Sunday or I would have completed Mt. Hebron.
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Lisa Bracco
I would agree with "Belmas." Definitely not an "h" in there--look at how the "h" is constructed in "chronic" to the right. The "m" seems to match how the person wrote that letter in the word "memorial" on the bottom. There is no "i" in there because the writer consistently dotted that letter elsewhere. Good luck.
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Susan J. Gordon
I also recommend a book - A Brotherhood of Memory: Jewish Landsmanshaftn in the New World, by Michael R. Weisser, pub 1985 by Basic books, and 1989 by Cornell U Press. as paperback.
Susan Gordon Lempert, Schoenholz - SKALAT, LVOV Bialazurker - ZBARAZ, BUDAPEST . |
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Re: Trying to identify Congregation Ben Menashe LES
#galicia
In the 1939 WPA Survey, an alternative name is Congregation Nachlas Zwie Anshe Ungam (“Congregation Inheritance of Tzvi, People of Ungam”). I was unable to find an “Ungam” in the JewishGen Communities Database, the JewishGen Gazeteer, or the Columbia Gazeteer of the World. On the other hand, “Ungam” could very easily have been a misreading for “Ungarn”, which is Hungary. |
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dwhitehead2634@...
Few photographs but the maps in Baedecker guides are wonderful ways to look back at cities.
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dasw5@...
Try calling the cemetery - cemeteries will take pictures for a fee
On jewishdata website is an Isaac Kaufman who died in 1900 - is this your Isaac? If so I can send picture to you. No Dora or Minnie listed on this site Dassy Wilen dasw5@... |
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Iasi Birth Records (index)
#romania
Michael Moritz
The Iasi Archives have entered into the Romanian Archives' online catalogue an index of birth records from 1865-1913 (solely the name, date of registration, and index number). We have extracted the first decade of these lists so far, and they are accessible at this link.
This includes more than 28,000 births registered in Iasi between 1865-1875 (of all religions). With this information, the original can be pulled. We have the majority of the birth records from 1865-1908, so if you locate anyone during this time period either in the spreadsheet or in the catalogue, we can likely find the original and send it to you in color, for a $15 contribution per record. Please reach out to Dana Lugassy, Iasi Town Coordinator, for help locating and pulling records (dlugassy314@...).
Michael Moritz
Director, JewishGen Romania Research Division
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Re: Tiktin Family of Rabbis
#poland
Jeremy Lichtman
R Meir was a Levi.
The Tiktin rabbinical family of SW Poland may have been Cohanim (anyone know for sure?). -- Jeremy Lichtman Toronto, Canada |
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The Galanta affair very briefly: When the Rav of Galanta, R' Shimon Friedman passed away in 1891, his son-in-law R' Moshe Feldman was serving as Dayan. He was appointed to be Rav by supporters a few years later, but it was opposited by many community members, who have established another Jewish Community in 1895. (Their Rav was the famous R' Yosef Tzvi Duschinsky.)
R' Moshe Feldman left Galanta, settled in Budapest, where he was served as Rosh Beth Din of the Neolog Community, until his death in 1927(?). Sandor Bacskai Budapest |
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The images still exist. For some reason they are no longer attached to the index records, but it's not hard to find them.
Since my last attempt at this message was rejected by the moderators, PM me for more info. -- Phil Karlin Hartford, CT USA |
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Escape from Czernowitz 1941
#holocaust
#romania
Zev Cohen
In the summer of 1941, as the Germans invaded Russia, my Aunt Chana escaped from Czernowitz with a unit of the Komsomol in the direction of Vinitsa, never to be heard from again. I would appreciate contact with anyone or the relatives of anyone who participated in that retreat.
Zev Cohen MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately |
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Diane Jacobs
A third option is to check FindAGrave a free
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Online search database. The fourth option is to search in Jewishgen’s JOWBR database which is free but requires registration. Both have provided me with lots of info. Diane Jacobs On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Sherri Bobish <sherribob@...> wrote:
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Avrohom Krauss
Perhaps it is "Behrman"
-- Avrohom Krauss Kiryat Yearim (Telz-Stone) ISRAEL kraussfig@... Researching: KRAUS, GOTTFRIED, MONAT from PRZEMYSL (Galicia) Poland/ KINSTLICH, GREENBERG, SCHMIDT from Tarnobrzeg, Rozwadow, Ulanow (Galicia) Poland KLOTZ from Telsiai, Lithuania/ ROGOZIN, KAPLOWITZ, from Vyazyn, Ilya, Vilyayka, Belarus /LAPIDUS, SOKOLSKY, ROGOZIN, Maladzyechna, Belarus |
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Sherri Bobish
Michele
Another option is to search for Dora Kaufman in the NYC (& one NJ) cemetery databases available here: http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm Part of Washington Cem. in Brooklyn is indexed here: https://jewishdata.com/ The search is free, but a subscription required to see the tombstone photo. Good luck in your search, Sherri Bobish |
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Re: Trying to identify Congregation Ben Menashe LES
#galicia
Sherri Bobish
Alan,
I searched https://genealogy.cjh.org/family-collections for their NYC incorporation papers using search term Hazedek. The incorporation papers should provide you with lots more information. You can see all the search results here: https://genealogy.cjh.org/fcresults.php?keyfilter=any&inputtext=Hazedek&inputtext2=&searchtype=words&dbselect=all&Search=Search Name: Congregation Linas Hazedek B'nai Menasche Year of Incorporation: 1911 Document Number: 4073 Microfilm Reel: XXXIII Collection: I-154: Incorporation Papers (1848-1920) Name: Congregation B'nai Menasseh (hungarian) Linas Hazedek Year of Incorporation: 1889 Document Number: 110 Microfilm Reel: XII Collection: I-154: Incorporation Papers (1848-1920)
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