Re: Original personal name for USA Nettie #general


In the case of Hassan Netti from Kula and later Budapest, Netti’s given name was Etel and her religious name Eszter. I’ve also heard Nettie derived from Annette. 

Beth Steiner Jones

Re: Researching the family of Emil DAMMANN in Berlin #germany #holocaust


Thank you, Simon, very helpful! I hope to find his burial records next, which might provide other clues, and then perhaps the marriage records, which I understand would mention his parents.
Richard Hatch
Providence, Utah

Re: Surnames #general

Joel Weintraub

Hi Karen,

I assume you are interested in name changes in the United States.  I highly recommend getting a copy of Kirsten Fermaglich's book, "A Rosenberg By Any Other Name".  New York University Press 2018.  The subtitle of the book is "A History Of Jewish Name Changing In America" and should answer most of your questions about "new" surnames.
Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA

NYTimes: Auction House Suspends Sale of 19th-Century Jewish Burial Records #romania #usa

Nevet Basker

--Nevet Basker, Bellevue, WA
Researching names: Basechis, Klughaupt, Lieberman, Laubfeld, Heilpern
Towns: Zolkiew, Brody, Uhnow, Rawa Ruska

Auction House Suspends Sale of 19th-Century Jewish Burial Records

The records of a Jewish community in Romania that was almost annihilated during the Holocaust are viewed as essential to reconstructing its history.

Feb. 19, 2021

A bound memorial register of Jewish burials from Oradea that was among those offered for, and then withdrawn from sale, at Kestenbaum & Company. via Kestenbaum & Company

Under Nazi rule in 1944, some 18,000 Jews were deported in six trains from the city of Cluj-Napoca in modern-day Romania to the death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau. They nearly all perished. Jewish homes, offices, archives and synagogues in Cluj were ransacked and possessions were looted, including books and historical records, leaving behind scant trace of a once-vibrant, mainly Hungarian-speaking community.

Today, decades after many of the few Holocaust survivors emigrated, the Jewish community there numbers just 350 and possesses little evidence of its history.

But this month a rare relic of Cluj’s Jewish past surfaced at a New York auction house. A bound memorial register of Jewish burials in the city between 1836 and 1899 was one of 17 documents offered for, and then withdrawn from sale, at Kestenbaum & Company, a Brooklyn auction house that specializes in Judaica.

The withdrawal came at the request of the Jewish Community in Cluj and the World Jewish Restitution Organization, who asked that the sale of the burial register listed in the catalog for the Feb. 18 auction and known as the Pinkas Klali D’Chevra Kadisha, be canceled.

The register, handwritten in Hebrew and Yiddish with an elaborate title page extolling the leaders of the burial society, was spotted online by a genealogy researcher who alerted Robert Schwartz, president of the Jewish Community of Cluj.

“Very little belonging to the community survived World War II,” Schwartz says. “It’s surprising that the book surfaced at auction, because no one knew anything about its existence. We have few documents or books, so this manuscript is a vital source of information about the community in the 19th century.”

Members of a Hungarian Jewish labor battalion building a road in Cluj, in 1943.

Members of a Hungarian Jewish labor battalion building a road in Cluj, in 1943.United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, via George Pick

Schwartz was among the Holocaust survivors of Cluj. He was born in hiding in a cellar after his pregnant mother escaped the city ghetto. An eminent chemist, he has since 2010 led the Jewish Community of Cluj, which is the fourth-biggest city in Romania and home to the country’s largest university.

Under his leadership, the community has attempted to rebuild, celebrating Jewish religious festivals with a wider public and staging scholarly events in pre-pandemic times. The Neolog Synagogue, the only one of the three synagogues there that is still used as a Jewish place of worship, is undergoing renovation and will house a small museum, Schwartz said. “This document could be very valuable as a key exhibit,” he said.

In a letter to the auction house earlier this month, Schwartz described the manuscript — which was estimated to fetch between $5,000 and $7,000 — as “very precious for the history of our community” and said it was “appropriated illegally by persons who have not been identified.”

A page from a register from Oradea, listing the names of people who had died.via Kestenbaum & Company

He also enlisted the support of the World Jewish Restitution Organization, which urged the auction house to halt the sale of both the Cluj burial records and a similar register of the births and deaths of Jews from nearby Oradea. In its letter, the restitution organization said private institutions like Kestenbaum have “a responsibility to make certain that claims to recover Nazi-confiscated property are resolved expeditiously” and cited international agreements on returning Nazi-looted cultural property and Holocaust-era assets.

“Given the historically delicate nature of the items that are entrusted to us to handle, we take the matter of title to be one of the utmost importance,” Daniel Kestenbaum, the founding chairman of the auction house, wrote in an email. “Consequently, in respect to recently acquired information, manuscripts were withdrawn from our February Judaica auction.”

The consignor is “a scholarly businessman who for decades has exerted enormous effort to rescue and preserve historical artifacts that would otherwise have been destroyed,” Kestenbaum said. The seller has agreed to discuss the matter further with the restitution organization, he said.

Zoltan Tibori Szabo, the director of the Institute for Holocaust and Genocide Studies at the University of Cluj, said he is counting on the consignor’s good will. If made available to researchers, the newly discovered register will provide scholars with the names of the ancestors of those who were deported, he said.

“Usually if a person dies, he is remembered by his community and his family,” he said. “But in the case of hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe, there was nothing left of them — even their documents were robbed and disappeared. You cannot reconstitute the history of a community without documents. We don’t even have a list of their names.”

While historic Jewish communal registers do occasionally come up for sale, it is unusual for so many to be offered at auction at once, said Jonathan Fishburn, a dealer in Jewish and Hebrew books in London. The market is generally confined to museums and libraries, though some private collectors with a connection to a specific region would also be potential customers, he said. Kestenbaum said that of about 30,000 auction lots he has handled in his career, only about 100 involved such records, which he described as crucial for genealogical research.

“It’s about saving history,” said Gideon Taylor, chair of operations at the World Jewish Restitution Organization. The newly discovered registry “is a treasure and a rare window into the past,” he said. “Every name on that list matters.”

The discovery of these documents is “symbolic of a wider challenge,” he said. “How do we make sure these pieces of history do not get traded? We want to make sure it gives us a road map going forward. We will be reaching out to auction houses in a more systematic way and looking for partnerships.”


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--Nevet Basker, Bellevue, WA
Researching names: Basechis, Klughaupt, Lieberman, Laubfeld, Heilpern
Towns: Zolkiew, Uhnow, Rawa Ruska, Brody

Genealogical Revelations of Hungarian Jewish Families - First Volume Editor - Munkatchi #hungary


Has anyone heard of:
Genealogical Revelations of Hungarian Jewish Families - First Volume Editor - Munkatchi 

The Magyar spelling of the Editor's name would actually be: Munkacsi.

Does anyone have a copy to look something up for me?

Thank you!
Aviyah (Mary) Farkas
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Viewmate ranslation needed- German to English #translation

Lin Herz

Subject: ViewMate translation request - German to English=

Hi Everyone,

I request a translation of the death certificate of Veronika LEVI the sister of my great grandfather.  She was a twin, but so far I have not found the death certificate of her twin, who also died soon after birth. Sadly they were the first children of my 2x great grandparents.  It is on ViewMate at the following address .  

Thank you so much,

Be safe and well.
Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida

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Forum for Dialogue Zoom: Virtual tour of Lodz #announcements #lodz #poland

Mark Halpern

Dear Fellow Genealogists:

Whether you have ancestry from Lodz or not, you don't want to miss this online tour of Jewish Lodz, the second most important Jewish city in Poland after Warsaw. I have been on tours with the Forum for Dialogue and their tours are just first rate even online. 

Join me this Thursday at 10 am Pacific time, 1 pm Eastern time, 6 pm in UK, 8 pm in Israel for a very worthwhile hour.

Mark Halpern

As the travel restrictions still hinder our international friends from visiting Poland in person, I would like to invite you to a virtual tour of another Polish city with a rich Jewish heritage and a special place in the history of Polish Jews. We feel that virtual tours of Warsaw and Krakow we hosted last summer were a great success, therefore let me invite you to our Zoom in on the Forum session devoted to Lodz and its 20th century history.
Our guest, Milena Wicepolska-Goralczyk, Lodz tour guide and a genealogist, will walk us through the rise of "Polish Manchester" as a significant social and industrial center with vibrant Jewish community and its tragedy during the Nazi occupation with the creation of Litzmannstadt Ghetto.
Join us next Thursday, February 25th, at 10 am Pacific, 12 pm Central, 1 pm Eastern, 7 pm Warsaw, 8 pm Tel-Aviv time for a session about Lodz.


Milena Wicepolska-Goralczyk, graduate of English Philology and History, is a tour guide and a Jewish genealogy researcher with more than 10 years of experience. She has cooperated with numerous organizations, such as Taube Center for Jewish Life and Learning, Center of Jewish Research in Lodz, Jewish Historical Institute, University of Lodz, University of Michigan, University of Haifa.
Do not hesitate to share this information with people who might be interested in joining this session!
Looking forward to meeting you on Thursday,

Olga Kaczmarek
Director General

How to make a payment to a Ukrainian Archive? #records #ukraine #translation


Hi Siggers,
   Recently I sent for the death record of my great-grandfather and received the attached invoice.
I do not speak Ukrainian and I cannot figure out how to go about making the payment.
  My bank tells me that in order to make a wire transfer I need the bank's Swift number and their address. Additionally I need the organization's name, address, and account number.
  So my questions are:  Are all these things on the invoice and which is which?
  Also, my bank wants to charge me $35 for the wire transfer whereas the invoice is for only about $4. Does anyone know a less expensive way to send the money? When I googled about it MoneyGram came up. Does anyone have experience with them? Would I need all the same info?
  Thanks in advance for your help.
Larry Bassist

Original personal name for USA Nettie #general

ada zig

I've tried various searches but cannot locate the pre-immigration personal name likely before Nettie. Many thanks for your help. 

passenger lists from poland to london 1880s #poland #unitedkingdom

arnold friedman <afriedman21@...>

I have family members (sieradzi) who traveled from piotrków kujawski, poland to london in the 1880s.   Where might I find the ship/passenger list for them online?
I am not sure what port they exited poland, there is a chance it's the port of gdynia.
arnold friedman
abram hersh joseph,   szymon (simon), zusman, gershon, ruchla, gedalie, jakob  Sieradski/Sheratsky   
piotrków kujawski, poland
london, england  

Surnames #general


How do you establish when & where it is recorded that Jewish families took on their “new” surnames? 
With thanks
Karen Saunders
Researching Surnames: Frank, Wallerstein, Stern, Horowitz, Davidow

Hello. I would like to join to research info about my 4 x g grandfather Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin 1764 - 1820. With thx.

Esterkin or Evzerickin from Shklov #belarus

Sandy Levin

Looking for any information on family from Shklov with the name Esterkin or Evzerickin. If these are familiar please reply privately to sandy.levin@...

Sandy Levin
London, ON

Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia


On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 08:54 AM, Sarah L Meyer wrote:
Are there any birth records from about 1895 from the shtetl Kolonie L'vove in Kherson Guberniya?  
Don't know if the vital records exist for this particular settlement, but there is definitely an 1858 census, that it is included in. 
Actually, L'vovo can't be considered a shtetl as it was organized as a Jewish farm colony.
You can reply directly to me with the last name(s) and I will check if they are present in the document.

Mike Vayser

ViewMate translation request - German #translation

Jeff Lieberman

I've posted a German marriage record for which I need a translation. It's on ViewMate at the following address:
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thanks for your help!
Jeff Lieberman

Yiddish Translation Needed Viewmate 91255 #translation

Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir

Yiddish translation need see Viewmate 91255 . 
Henry H. Carrey

ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Laufer, Shmuel

A need Russian translation for 5 certificates. I don't need word-for-word but details such as names, dates, ages, locations, occupations, and so on are very helpful.


A death certificate of Aron Wiatrak for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...


A marriage certificate of  Szlomo Kruk and Roiza Mlaver for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...


A death certificate of Moszko Brukman for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...


A marriage certificate of  Zelman Gerbard y Estera Domb for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...


A death certificate of Sara Zyman for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.


 Thanks in advance


Shmuel Laufer

Rehovot -Israel


 Research: Laufer (Przasnysz, Poland); Domb (Pultusk, Poland); Bruckman (Sarnaki, Poland); Zelazo (Sarnaki, Poland); Preschel (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine), Leder (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine); Schnap (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine); Mitelman (Chelm, Poland); Tenerman (Dubienka, Poland)

Re: Additional Kiev Jewish metrical books posted to Ukrainian Archives website #ukraine #russia

Thank you Ted for showing us where these records can be accessed.  
To help with my own search, it would be nice to have a translation of the column headings from Russian to English as well as an idea of where the names of the individuals are listed in each entry.  
Thank you
Karen Silver
Researching Potschinko, Putchinsky, Puczinska, Puchinsky from KIEV

Re: Canadian researcher needed to order 1927 naturalization record for Leib ZAROW (ZAROVSKY) #canada


Hi Ben,

I found a researcher to do the same research from the Canadian Archives for me.  His name is Peter Stockdale and his email is Drpeterstockdale@....  He was able to submit the application for me and I am now waiting for a response from the Archives.  Good luck!
Karen Paul

Re: Researching the family of Emil DAMMANN in Berlin #germany #holocaust

Simon Srebrny

Emil's Berlin death record, available at, says he was indeed born in Gehrden. It gives his date of birth as 26 September 1871.

Simon Srebrny
(from London, in Berlin)

Seeking KLEINS in VIENNA - Evelyn (MD); Walter; Julie Miriam #austria-czech

Myra Fournier

I recently learned that Heinz Klein of Vienna, Austria was my 2nd cousin. He was born in 1917 and died in 2015. 
He was married to Desi Blumenthal, who must also be deceased.
Their children are Dr. Evelyn Klein and Walter Klein, and I believe them to be alive.
Walter's daughter is Julie Miriam Klein.
I would like to make contact with Evelyn, Walter, or Julie and would appreciate any information.
Thank you.

Myra Fournier
Bedford, MA USA

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